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Title: About those 24s
Post by: Guppy35 on October 29, 2004, 04:29:08 AM
I spent part of the day off making my own B24 profile template with the idea that maybe I could replicate some of the black and white photos in best guess color with group markings etc for the skinners when the time comes.

I didn't shade the template or get too carried away yet, but i think it might work as I can add nose art, group markings etc as I want.

Here's a 736th BS, 454th BG, 25th AF B24J with fictional nose art, along with a close up of the nose.

Not great, but might make it easier for the skin makers when the time comes.

Doing "Chute the Works" for example would be fairly easy as that's a Vargas Girl on the nose and should be easy to replicate.  

Dan/Slack
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1099042130_b24temp.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1099044990_b24nose.jpg)
Title: About those 24s
Post by: Guppy35 on October 29, 2004, 02:27:49 PM
Did and OD/Gray Template as well.  450th BG Markings on this one.

Dan/Slack
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1099078004_b24tempodgray2.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1099077856_b24tempodgray.jpg)
Title: About those 24s
Post by: Mitsu on October 29, 2004, 02:32:10 PM
I like second one. :o
Title: About those 24s
Post by: Guppy35 on October 29, 2004, 03:34:06 PM
Feeling like a kid with a new toy.

This one is a real one from the 63rd BS, 43rd BG.  I had an old AW Squad friend whose Grandfather commanded the 63rd BS, "SeaHawks" later in the war, specializing in night attacks on shipping.

Dan/Slack
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1099081786_b24black.jpg)
Title: About those 24s
Post by: United on October 29, 2004, 03:37:39 PM
Chute the Works is my first B-24.  I'd LOOVE to have a profile. :)
Title: About those 24s
Post by: Guppy35 on October 29, 2004, 03:55:34 PM
I'll take a crack at it United. I'm having fun avoiding the "honeydo" list on a day off :)

Top profile is the Last RAAF Liberator lost during WW2.  24 Squadron.

Bottom is and RAF Liberator from 356 Squadron named "Daedalus" flying in the CBI

Dan/Slack
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1099083100_b24tempraaf.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1099083788_b24tempodgrayraf.jpg)
Title: About those 24s
Post by: United on October 29, 2004, 04:05:27 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Guppy35
I'll take a crack at it United. I'm having fun avoiding the "honeydo" list on a day off :)

I understand completely. :D


Thank ya!
Title: About those 24s
Post by: SELECTOR on October 29, 2004, 04:18:38 PM
raf costal command 24s look nice too
Title: CHUTE THE WORKS
Post by: Guppy35 on October 29, 2004, 05:04:54 PM
Took at crack at Chute the Works.  From the photo evidence, there wasn't much in the way of unit markings outside of the three vertical bars on the tail.  No individual number or letter evident in 11th BG B24s

Turns out the nose art was a Petty Girl, not a Vargas Girl.

Not exactly right as I couldn't find a font that fit exactly, but the nose art turned out OK.

The B24s of the 7th AF were unique in having ball mounts in the side windows and in place of the dome in the nose to mount 30 cal MGs.  There was a flat piece of glass with a ball mount on top of the nose in place of the clear dome.

Dan/Slack
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1099086865_b24tempctw.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1099086833_b24tempctwnose.jpg)
Title: About those 24s
Post by: Guppy35 on October 29, 2004, 05:22:23 PM
Last one for now.  The Mrs. got home as well as the kids so real world takes over :)

All gray Pathfinder from the 454th BG flown by "my crew" Captain Richard Fry-pilot, Lt Alvin Brody-Co-pilot

Dan/Slack
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1099093077_b24temppathfinder.jpg)
Title: About those 24s
Post by: United on October 29, 2004, 05:24:32 PM
Incredible Guppy.  Thank you VERY much!

Now, all I need to do is get that 24 bitmap file... :)

I have a few other photos than what is on the internet, but nothing on the tail markings or anything to the rear of the wings.

I did just recieve some more info on this bird that I haven't gone through yet.  I'll see if I can get that sorted out as well.
Title: B24s
Post by: BSB on October 29, 2004, 05:29:56 PM
Nice work Guppy35 :aok .   Do you by chance have a profile of the Lady Be Good B24D that went down in Libya in 1943?  Just curious, it was an interesting story and I was just wondering about the plane markings.

BSB
Title: Re: B24s
Post by: Guppy35 on October 29, 2004, 06:49:12 PM
Quote
Originally posted by BSB
Nice work Guppy35 :aok .   Do you by chance have a profile of the Lady Be Good B24D that went down in Libya in 1943?  Just curious, it was an interesting story and I was just wondering about the plane markings.

BSB


No profile of Lady Be Good.  She'd have been similar to one of her Group mates, "Strawberry *****" that is preserved at the USAF Museum.

She wouldn't have had the later group tail markings or the yellow fuselage band, but she had the number 64 in the same place as this one and was also a D model without the nose turret.

Dan/Slack
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1099093495_sberryb.jpg)
Title: About those 24s
Post by: Guppy35 on October 29, 2004, 07:28:32 PM
This isn't a formation assembly ship, but it is an F7 Photo Recce Liberator of the 24th Combat Mapping squadron.  I have a color photo of this one.  No one is quite sure what the story is behind the paint job.

F7s did start out blue but the dots weren't part of the deal.

I think I've covered a lot of color schemes now :)

Dan/Slack
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1099095824_f7recce24.jpg)
Title: Lady Be Good
Post by: BSB on November 01, 2004, 12:02:42 PM
Thanks for the profile Guppy.  Appreciate the response.

BSB
Title: About those 24s
Post by: Howitzer on November 01, 2004, 04:19:51 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Guppy35
This isn't a formation assembly ship, but it is an F7 Photo Recce Liberator of the 24th Combat Mapping squadron.  I have a color photo of this one.  No one is quite sure what the story is behind the paint job.

F7s did start out blue but the dots weren't part of the deal.

I think I've covered a lot of color schemes now :)

Dan/Slack
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1099095824_f7recce24.jpg)


That black one is freakin sweet.. but this blue one...  WOW.. that is awesome!  You think they'd accept it Guppy?
Title: About those 24s
Post by: Guppy35 on November 01, 2004, 04:35:27 PM
No clue on whether they'd accept it, but here's the color shot of the real deal.

NOT a formation assembly ship as they didn't have those in the Pacific.  

Dan/Slack
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1099348284_f7lib.jpg)
Title: About those 24s
Post by: Sp4de on November 01, 2004, 06:15:45 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Guppy35
Feeling like a kid with a new toy.

This one is a real one from the 63rd BS, 43rd BG.  I had an old AW Squad friend whose Grandfather commanded the 63rd BS, "SeaHawks" later in the war, specializing in night attacks on shipping.

Dan/Slack
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1099081786_b24black.jpg)

I want to do this one.. Can you give me more pictures?
Title: About those 24s
Post by: Guppy35 on November 02, 2004, 12:43:16 AM
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Originally posted by Sp4de
I want to do this one.. Can you give me more pictures?


This is the photo my profile is based on.  I don't know of any other photos of it, at least not in my home library.

Second image is a profile found in "The Mighty Eighth" by Roger Freeman, showing a 406th BS, all black B24.

For the sake of variety :)

Dan/Slack
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/810_1099377469_otniii.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/810_1099377501_40624.jpg)
Title: About those 24s
Post by: Howitzer on November 02, 2004, 02:49:04 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Guppy35
No clue on whether they'd accept it, but here's the color shot of the real deal.

NOT a formation assembly ship as they didn't have those in the Pacific.  

Dan/Slack
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1099348284_f7lib.jpg)


Ok, I think I'm going to try it, but one more question... any idea what the markings on the top part of the flat top of the tail section would be?  For instance in the "Strawberry *****" looking down photo you posted there is a black 2 and a black triangle....what would those correspond to in this model?  I wish I knew more about the markings  :(
Title: About those 24s
Post by: United on November 02, 2004, 02:55:33 PM
Im not 100% sure about B-24 markings, but I believe all markings on the stabilizers (vertical and horizontal) are squadron markings.
Title: About those 24s
Post by: Guppy35 on November 02, 2004, 03:01:15 PM
United is correct.  There were Wing, Group and Squadron Markings on the top of the horizontal stabilizers on the 24s and 17s.

That was a practice of the 15th AF out of Italy.  Not the 5th AF in the Pacific.  The Blue 24 is from the 5th AF.

Dan/Slack
Title: About those 24s
Post by: Kev367th on November 05, 2004, 06:06:32 AM
Any more RAF ones Dan, esp coastal command or India?
Title: About those 24s
Post by: Guppy35 on November 05, 2004, 12:18:11 PM
Check this site Kev:

http://www.acseac.co.uk/index.php

Tons of stuff on RAF Libs.  Best site I've seen on them.  Bumped into it by accident yesterday.

Those coastal command camo 24Js look nice.  Check the models out as the photos are color.  Lots of other images of RAF 24s on the site too.

Dan/Slack
Title: raf lib
Post by: rogerdee on November 05, 2004, 01:39:46 PM
just trying out  a  liberator   not sure  of the colours  they dont look right cos of the shine  (http://[img]http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/610_1099683169_lib1.jpg)[/IMG] (http://[img]http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/610_1099683270_lib2.jpg)[/IMG]

do you think it could work  just  a  rough example

rogerdee
Title: About those 24s
Post by: Guppy35 on November 05, 2004, 03:23:42 PM
The upper camo would be the same two camo's as on the AH Seafire.

That scheme would looks really nice if the shininess issue ever gets worked out.

Dan/Slack
Title: About those 24s
Post by: Kev367th on November 05, 2004, 03:29:55 PM
That would be extra dark sea grey / slate grey.
Title: About those 24s
Post by: RAF Liberators on November 06, 2004, 03:46:39 AM
Hello Everyone
Would just like to say thanks for the kind words about the website and also would like to point out that you missed out the tail fin markings for the 356 Squadron Lib. 356 Libs had Black and White crosses on the tail fins. 355 Squadron Libs had Vertical bars. I have lots of colour plates of Libs RAF, RAAF, USAAF if anyone wants a peek let me know and I'll add them to my site and send u a link.
Regards
Gary
RAF Liberator Squadrons (http://www.acseac.co.uk)