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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: WhiteHawk on October 29, 2004, 02:48:38 PM
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I see alot of posts criticizing Bush and alot supporting our troops.
Now that we know the WMD thing is a big hoax, now that saddam has been captured, why are we still in Iraq?
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We blowed it up, now we fix it up.
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Saddam's 'Killing Field'
Sunday, October 17, 2004
By Greg Palkot
A trench with piles of clothed bodies packed tightly together. Men, women, little children. Even unborn children. Some blindfolded. Some with their hands bound. All slaughtered in cold blood by the henchmen of former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein.
All of this horror was discovered in another mass grave in the desert wasteland of northwestern Iraq, near the town of Hatra. It was discovered a year ago, and only now is it being carefully and scientifically excavated by the Regime Crimes Liaison Office. This agency, part of the U.S. Justice Department, is working with the Iraqi interim government to map out the horrors of the Hussein past.
The head of the unit, Greg Kehoe, who has seen more than his share of horrors in places such as the Balkans, couldn’t believe what he saw.
"I’ve never seen women and children executed, defenseless people executed in this fashion," he said. "I mean, you look at a young woman holding her 2-year-old child with a gunshot wound to the back of the head. I can’t find any reason to justify that."
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why are we still in germany? WW2 ended 60 years ago?
what is our "exit strategy" for getting out of germany?
bring our boys home , no war for bratworst.
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Originally posted by Habu
Saddam's 'Killing Field'
Sunday, October 17, 2004
By Greg Palkot
A trench with piles of clothed bodies packed tightly together. Men, women, little children. Even unborn children. Some blindfolded. Some with their hands bound. All slaughtered in cold blood by the henchmen of former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein.
All of this horror was discovered in another mass grave in the desert wasteland of northwestern Iraq, near the town of Hatra. It was discovered a year ago, and only now is it being carefully and scientifically excavated by the Regime Crimes Liaison Office. This agency, part of the U.S. Justice Department, is working with the Iraqi interim government to map out the horrors of the Hussein past.
The head of the unit, Greg Kehoe, who has seen more than his share of horrors in places such as the Balkans, couldn’t believe what he saw.
"I’ve never seen women and children executed, defenseless people executed in this fashion," he said. "I mean, you look at a young woman holding her 2-year-old child with a gunshot wound to the back of the head. I can’t find any reason to justify that."
And now it is even worse.
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What exactly are you saying Whitehawk? Are you saying that the situation now is worse for Iraqi's with Saddam no longer murdering them wholesale? Or are you saying that the US is doing worse things there now that Saddam has been removed?
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Right or wrong for going in, we have a duty to stay tell the Iraq people can elect a government of their own. One That will not be overthrown by religous nuts.
We may be there for a long time.
Pulling out now would be a big mistake, a bigger one then going in, in the first place.
The only way anything good will come out of it, is if in 20 years Iraq is a thriving country with a real non dictator government.
That may be a dream and unlikely but since we invaded we should stay and try.
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obviously that little star shaped muscle that keeps crap in has suffered some sort of failure......
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Originally posted by WhiteHawk
I see alot of posts criticizing Bush and alot supporting our troops.
Now that we know the WMD thing is a big hoax, now that saddam has been captured, why are we still in Iraq?
"You break it, you own it."
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Originally posted by john9001
why are we still in germany? WW2 ended 60 years ago?
what is our "exit strategy" for getting out of germany?
bring our boys home , no war for bratworst.
now that is a good question. we stayed in germany because of the cold war... thats been over for how long now.... geeze. as for Iraq we have to sustain the new government until their first unaided election (IAW Law of War). then once the elections happen a new reason will surface on why we have to stay.. i guess that im trying to say is that our foreign policy stinks.
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Originally posted by WhiteHawk
And now it is even worse.
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by WhiteHawk
I see alot of posts criticizing Bush and alot supporting our troops.
Now that we know the WMD thing is a big hoax, now that saddam has been captured, why are we still in Iraq?
The short answer: Job ain't done yet.
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I really think Americans got spoiled on alot of our "quick wars" that we've had in the last 15 years. Now that there's a slug it out conflict were the fight needs to be sustained there's no more stomach for it.
But of course America can do no right in the eyes of the world now can we?
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Originally posted by sling322
What exactly are you saying Whitehawk? Are you saying that the situation now is worse for Iraqi's with Saddam no longer murdering them wholesale? Or are you saying that the US is doing worse things there now that Saddam has been removed?
Saddam only wholesale murdered those that opposed him, exactly as the US is doing right now.
You tell me sling, after taking 250,000,000,000.00 out of our pockets, and our childrens and grand childrens, and no end in sight. Do you think the US is better off today than before the war?
Do you think that the wholesale murder of women and children has stopped?
I just read the other day of 37 murdered new iraqi military recruits . Wow. Did they use boxcutters? 50 dead from a carbomb here, 40 dead there, fallujah is under US control, yet again. Hmmmm,
You tell me sling how are we better?
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Because all of those incidents you listed happened in Iraq, not the US. The President has made it clear that a prime strategy of our war in Iraq is to fight them on their own territory.
As innocent Muslims feel the actuality of what Islamic terrorism is, and gain a measure of self determination, I think they will make the right choice.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
I really think Americans got spoiled on alot of our "quick wars" that we've had in the last 15 years. Now that there's a slug it out conflict were the fight needs to be sustained there's no more stomach for it.
But of course America can do no right in the eyes of the world now can we?
Invading soverign countries on bogus information is a bit risky when your trying for world appreciation. especially when dead babies start being pulled from the rubble of US bombs.
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Most are forgetting that it was in fact US policy to enact regime change in Iraq long before Bush ever took office.
and yes, I'd rather fight them over there than here!
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Originally posted by Lizking
Because all of those incidents you listed happened in Iraq, not the US. The President has made it clear that a prime strategy of our war in Iraq is to fight them on their own territory.
As innocent Muslims feel the actuality of what Islamic terrorism is, and gain a measure of self determination, I think they will make the right choice.
but there were no anti US terrorist factions in Iraq prior to 911.
I am not sure where this latest info is comming from. the sale of the war was to get the WMD's, not fight terrorist on their own soil? Pakistan and Saudi arabia is the terrorist haven, or was pre 911.
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Originally posted by WhiteHawk
but there were no anti US terrorist factions in Iraq prior to 911.
I am not sure where this latest info is comming from. the sale of the war was to get the WMD's, not fight terrorist on their own soil? Pakistan and Saudi arabia is the terrorist haven, or was pre 911.
Well If you read the senate intell commitee and the 911 commision's report there was a relationship between Sadam and AQ. If you beleive John Kerry Sadam was a threat and needed to be taken out.
SOOOOO we should release Sadam and put him back in charge and just pull everyone out leaving the country in ruins?????
GREAT PLAN! Yea that will work!
I can see the head lines: "Sadam Wins"
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What is the repercussion of pulling out begining today?
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Remember it how you will, Whitehawk, but don't let your short term memory control your actions.
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Originally posted by Pongo
What is the repercussion of pulling out begining today?
Probably another islamic extremist run dictatorship heaven for terrorists
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whitehawk
have you graduated from HS yet?