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Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: JB73 on November 01, 2004, 02:22:36 PM
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&ncid=757&e=4&u=/nm/20041101/od_nm/campaign_alaska_marijuana_dc

lol at headline, this is one interesting vote im going to watch.
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: rpm on November 01, 2004, 02:58:58 PM
I predict that marijuana will replace gay marrage as the dominate social issue of the next 4 years. They have some strong arguements to support their case.
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: SOB on November 01, 2004, 03:07:46 PM
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"In Alaska, fiction has always won out over fact," said Matt studmuffinnani, president of an Anchorage drug-testing company and chairman of a group called Alaskans Against the Legalization of Marijuana and Hemp.

LOL, I wonder what this guy's modivation is.
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: vorticon on November 01, 2004, 03:10:25 PM
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group called Alaskans Against the Legalization of Marijuana and Hemp.


HEMP! WTF. you'd have to smoke a field of that stuff to get a mild buzz...
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: Nefarious on November 01, 2004, 03:11:49 PM
Yeah I saw this on the Abrams Report a while back, I think theres a pretty good chance it will pass.
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: Gyro/T69 on November 01, 2004, 03:21:39 PM
“HEMP! WTF. you'd have to smoke a field of that stuff to get a mild buzz...”

Experience? :)

I have a question for those in the know. What’s pot cost these days? When I was a doper it was $5 for a nickel bag, $10 for a dime, $15 for a lid and $20 for an ounce
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: SOB on November 01, 2004, 03:25:40 PM
...and what the heck is a nickel/dime/lid?
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on November 01, 2004, 03:25:55 PM
A newborn baby will get you a pound.
-SW
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: Gyro/T69 on November 01, 2004, 03:36:29 PM
"and what the heck is a nickel/dime/lid?"

Street slang for pot under the size of an ounce. History was not created on the day you were born. :)
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: SOB on November 01, 2004, 03:42:01 PM
I kind of guessed that, since the last one was an ounce.  What sizes do they represent?  .05 oz / .1 oz?  Seems kinda small, but then I guess pot wouldn't weigh that much.

I'm not sure what you're on about with the history bit, but if you think I was making fun of you for using old school terminology or something, I wasn't.  I've never purchased pot, so I just don't know. :)
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: midnight Target on November 01, 2004, 03:44:23 PM
ahem... been around a while, and back in my stoner days I never heard of a nickle, dime... whatever.

We bought lids. The normal stuff was $10. The better "columbian" (probably from Mexico) was $40, the really really really good stuff from Humboldt might go as high as $60.

If you were in luck, somebody might be selling "Thai Sticks" for $15 each.

Maui Wowee
Panama Red
Columbian Gold

sigh.... I'm getting old.
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: Gyro/T69 on November 01, 2004, 03:48:33 PM
"I kind of guessed that, since the last one was an ounce. What sizes do they represent? .05 oz / .1 oz? Seems kinda small, but then I guess pot wouldn't weigh that much."

Yup that's how it work.

I'm not sure what you're on about with the history bit, but if you think I was making fun of you for using old school terminology or something, I wasn't. I've never purchased pot, so I just don't know

Must have been having a RUSH flash back :)
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: Torque on November 01, 2004, 03:48:45 PM
Damn you Dupont!

Damn you Nylon!

Jesus was a black dude and enjoyed cannabis oil, that would be a rather large pickle to pass thru a crusty religious sphincter.
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: Gyro/T69 on November 01, 2004, 03:54:59 PM
"ahem... been around a while, and back in my stoner days I never heard of a nickle, dime... whatever."

Could be an east coast, west coast thing. We didn't say things like rad and stoked much or other surfer type lingo. Or, you aint as old as you think. :)
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: Maniac on November 01, 2004, 03:57:41 PM
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If you were in luck, somebody might be selling "Thai Sticks" for $15 each.


Your so old that even in todays Thailand they dont know what a "Thai Stick" is.

:)
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: midnight Target on November 01, 2004, 04:03:46 PM
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Originally posted by Gyro/T69
"ahem... been around a while, and back in my stoner days I never heard of a nickle, dime... whatever."

Could be an east coast, west coast thing. We didn't say things like rad and stoked much or other surfer type lingo. Or, you aint as old as you think. :)


Might be right about the East -West thing, on the other hand, I would be happy to post a pic or 2 of my grandaughter.
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: GreenCloud on November 01, 2004, 04:05:01 PM
the farther you  get from Northen California ..the higher the price

Canada was flooding us with (inexpensive) (relative term) indoor hydro weed..but since the border has been tightened the prices and amounts have increased-decreased


so...   $3,000 - $4,200 for a pound of Hi grade is average price out in Nor cali area

But like fruit..this plant has seasons..rigth now the market is flooded with all the outdoor harvest so prices are a bit lower..(but with a HUGE growth in indoor cultivation prices dont fluctuate too greatly)

every hundred miles past this is +$100 a lb. ( relativly)


hell back in 1990s  these guys from New york would come out here and would buy all day long..5K a .lb!!!!!

a nickel..dime

well nickel just means a 5$ dollar bag..dime  $10 bag...  sizes vary from city to city

it was a Gram   1/28 of an ounce would be 10$ making it a 280$ ounce..which would be an over $4k pound

more expensive then gold


really a shame hemp gets mixed up with weed...

what a strange time we live in now

Love
BiGB
xoxo
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: Gyro/T69 on November 01, 2004, 04:08:09 PM
Might be right about the East -West thing, on the other hand, I would be happy to post a pic or 2 of my grandaughter."

Let's try this, I began in 69. You?
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: Nilsen on November 01, 2004, 04:13:28 PM
Oh the days of pot!

They are long gone for me, but once every  summer me and some m8's light "one" up with a box of red and remember the old days of care free living :)

how long til summer now?
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: Gyro/T69 on November 01, 2004, 04:13:44 PM
GreenCloud, OMG....I'm glad I quit. :0
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: storch on November 01, 2004, 04:15:39 PM
Here in Miami during the mid 70's a 28 gram ounce of Columbian gold was $25.00  for that you received some world class two hit  x 45 minute buzzes, a joint lasted a full day of surfing and skateboarding per person.  The material was almost entirely golden yellow hence the name. It was beautiful and wonderous, no munchies no crashing.

Oaxacan or Jamaican could be had for about $20.00  after an hour you were raiding the 7-11s for peculiar culinary combinations with searing red eyes.  after gorging yourself it was time for a nap.

Never touched the cheap stuff very much.  I always had gold or red material on hand but far and away perferred the gold.

The best weed I ever smoked was supposedly grown in southern Brasil and was almost black/green in color sort of variagated.  Two hits would be delivering a very intense one hour buzz.  I was only able to run across it one time and kicked myself for not buying a key of it.

The weed available today seems to be genetically altered and while the effects are very intense I could not describe them as enjoyable so I don't smoke weed any more.  I haven't bought marijuana since the early 80s so I have no concept of the economic value but I suppose it must be in the hundreds of dollars per ounce.
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: Nilsen on November 01, 2004, 04:21:48 PM
lol and now all the potheads sit infront of a tube watching icons fly around and get truly upset if one of those little red dots move away :D
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: midnight Target on November 01, 2004, 04:23:42 PM
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Originally posted by Gyro/T69
Might be right about the East -West thing, on the other hand, I would be happy to post a pic or 2 of my grandaughter."

Let's try this, I began in 69. You?


You got me by 4 years... congrats.

The best I ever had was a baggie (free) a girl gave me when she returned from the growers festival (they really had one) up in Humboldt. She just tossed it to me at a party and said it was the winner at the festival. Holy ****! That's all, just HOLY ****!
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: Gyro/T69 on November 01, 2004, 04:33:47 PM
“You got me by 4 years... congrats."

Ahhh… Bragging rights, to what….I have no idea. :)

I should add, I was 15 at the time.


The best I ever had was a baggie (free) a girl gave me when she returned from the growers festival (they really had one) up in Humboldt. She just tossed it to me at a party and said it was the winner at the festival. Holy ****! That's all, just HOLY ****!”

My buddy's older brother was our pusher. No freebees, the dick :)
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: rpm on November 01, 2004, 04:52:47 PM
I may be a bit out of touch, but I always thought a "Lid" was an ounce. Dime and Nickle bags were "Dealers Choice" as to how much they contained. I defer to Willie Nelson and Tommy Chong for the true meanings.
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: Gyro/T69 on November 01, 2004, 05:03:03 PM
Seems we may have a time, location thing going on here rpm. No standard merchandising.
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: Gunslinger on November 01, 2004, 05:53:21 PM
HOLEY CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!  :eek: :eek:


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Alaska already allows legal possession of small amounts of marijuana by adults, the most liberal policy among the 50 U.S. states, thanks to a 1975 state Supreme Court ruling.



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After the 1975 ruling, the Legislature defined a "small amount" of marijuana as 4 ounces


4 ounces......That's not a small amount that's a nice party!

BGB how much is an OZ going for these days?  (ballpark)
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: Otto on November 01, 2004, 06:32:29 PM
All laws prohibiting the use of drug by adults are 'stupid' (can't think of a better word)

Drugs come into (or are grown in) this country because people want them.   Yet the Government says 'NO' and acomplishes nothing but driving up the price.   I can never understand this....
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: DREDIOCK on November 01, 2004, 06:42:31 PM
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Originally posted by Gyro/T69
“HEMP! WTF. you'd have to smoke a field of that stuff to get a mild buzz...”

Experience? :)

I have a question for those in the know. What’s pot cost these days? When I was a doper it was $5 for a nickel bag, $10 for a dime, $15 for a lid and $20 for an ounce


my day it was
1$ a joint
$5 nickle bag
$10 a dime bag
$20-25 half ounce
$30 a lid
$40-45 per ounce
$110 1/4 lb


Now

$20 a gram

$45-50  1/8th  (according to local sources)
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: Airhead on November 01, 2004, 06:46:51 PM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
HOLEY CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!  :eek: :eek:


 


 

4 ounces......That's not a small amount that's a nice party!

BGB how much is an OZ going for these days?  (ballpark)



Right now in Mendocino County green bud is going for as little as 1700.00 a pound, but basically you're looking at 2500-3k a pound. Ounces on the street sell for 200-250.

Here those with doctors' notes are allowed to posess up to two pounds, which puts just about everybody who grew their 25 plants over the poundage limit, but so far it's hard to get the DA to prosicute for anything less than ten pounds of manicured bud.
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: DREDIOCK on November 01, 2004, 06:51:33 PM
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Originally posted by Nilsen
lol and now all the potheads sit infront of a tube watching icons fly around and get truly upset if one of those little red dots move away :D


Thats pretty much about the size of it.

What were we talking about again?
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: Torque on November 01, 2004, 06:54:07 PM
Using the term manicured bud, i can only draw one conclusion from that.:D
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: DREDIOCK on November 01, 2004, 06:55:28 PM
"Up in Smoke. Is where my money goes.
In my lungs and sometimes up my nose
When troubled times, begin to bother me
I take a toke
And all my cares, Go up in smoke"
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: RTStuka on November 01, 2004, 07:02:38 PM
Legalize it all!!!!!

1. South American Countries would clean up a tad bit because all the illegal drug cartels would be legal Corporations.

2. You could tax the ever loving **** out of it.

3. For all those that think everyone would go around getting stoned or high and nothing would get done your way off. Those who smoke will continue too smoke, those who done wont.

4. I can think of alot of negatives but none of them that dont already exist with things such as booze or cigarettes.
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: Elfie on November 01, 2004, 07:03:25 PM
I pay $60 an ounce here in Denver. I have a prescription for it :D
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: Airhead on November 01, 2004, 07:03:26 PM
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Originally posted by Torque
Using the term manicured bud, i can only draw one conclusion from that.:D


That's trimmed, Torque. In Laytonville the going rate for trimming is 25.00 an hour, plus as much pot as you want to smoke. One of the four "restaurants" up there had to shut down when their staff quit en masse and went to work manicuring buds, and you'd be surprised how many grannys and grandpas either grow a few plants to supplement their Social Security or work trimming other peoples' pot.
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: Bluedog on November 01, 2004, 07:22:31 PM
About $25AUD/gram down here, or $80 for a quarter ounce, $150 for a half, $280 for an ounce and about $2500~$3000 for a pound, all depending on just how much you are buying at the time...the more weight, the less cost per gram.
When you take into account that $1AUD is about 0.75 $US, it seems weed is relatively cheap around here.
Just for interest's sake, it takes roughly one tenth of a gram to get a reasonably heavy user 'stoned' on this stuff, if you smoked a whole gram in a timespan of less than ten minutes, you would go white, start dribbling, and melt into the couch. Vommiting, paranoia and fits of uncontrollable giggling to follow.

Or so I hear anyway, wouldn't know personally :)
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: Bluedog on November 01, 2004, 07:25:58 PM
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Originally posted by RTStuka
Legalize it all!!!!!

1. South American Countries would clean up a tad bit because all the illegal drug cartels would be legal Corporations.

2. You could tax the ever loving **** out of it.

3. For all those that think everyone would go around getting stoned or high and nothing would get done your way off. Those who smoke will continue too smoke, those who done wont.

4. I can think of alot of negatives but none of them that dont already exist with things such as booze or cigarettes.


Maybe a few of those 'get a skin full of booze and beat the missus senseless' type people would just have a bong and sit back with a "sure honey, of course I'm listening..' instead.
That alone would make decriminalising the stuff worth while IMHO.
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: Torque on November 01, 2004, 07:27:44 PM
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Originally posted by Airhead
That's trimmed, Torque. In Laytonville the going rate for trimming is 25.00 an hour, plus as much pot as you want to smoke. One of the four "restaurants" up there had to shut down when their staff quit en masse and went to work manicuring buds, and you'd be surprised how many grannys and grandpas either grow a few plants to supplement their Social Security or work trimming other peoples' pot.


Oh, i know.:aok
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: RTStuka on November 01, 2004, 07:33:10 PM
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Originally posted by Bluedog
Maybe a few of those 'get a skin full of booze and beat the missus senseless' type people would just have a bong and sit back with a "sure honey, of course I'm listening..' instead.
That alone would make decriminalising the stuff worth while IMHO.


LOL classic, I have to agree.
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: rpm on November 01, 2004, 09:36:32 PM
Guess those Grannys have'nt been listening to the current administration. Anybody that buys pot is supporting terrorists.:rolleyes:
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: Airhead on November 01, 2004, 10:24:54 PM
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Originally posted by rpm
Guess those Grannys have'nt been listening to the current administration. Anybody that buys pot is supporting terrorists.:rolleyes:


If you take a community that's only two industries were fishing and lumber, then you destroy the fishery and legislate the timber companies to death, you get a County where the average income is about 32k. What do you expect people to do, given the permissive stance from County authorities? I'd estimate 20% of the "everyday, normal citizens" up here grow dope in their back yards to supplement their income.
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: B17Skull12 on November 01, 2004, 10:27:35 PM
send all pot smokers to alaska sheesh.  Then shoot them all.
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: vorticon on November 01, 2004, 10:43:23 PM
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Originally posted by B17Skull12
send all pot smokers to alaska sheesh.  Then shoot them all.


you do realize you are referring to a suprisingly large amount of people...
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: mora on November 02, 2004, 12:56:38 AM
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Originally posted by GreenCloud
so...   $3,000 - $4,200 for a pound of Hi grade is average price out in Nor cali area


Geez.... That's almost 10$ per gram. Can that be right, I'd imagine the street price would be at least twice of that? Expensive hobby..
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: Nilsen on November 02, 2004, 02:25:52 AM
Price here has been 100 NOK for a gram for as long as i can remember...

That would be just over 15$ at the current rate but the dollar is very "cheap" now so its not as bad as it sounds. You need to work for about half an hour to afford it.
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: mora on November 02, 2004, 03:40:26 AM
AFAIK it's about 10€/12$ per gram here. That's about 3/4 hour pay.

A German guy once asked where he could get some, and for what price. When I said I didn't know, and that it's 10€ he was amazed, he said it was around 4€ over there.
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: GreenCloud on November 02, 2004, 03:49:54 AM
no..if your buying something as small as a gram of hi grade..ya $10 fair price..


but as you knwo..bigger for cheaper..

i think airhead is a bit too close to the source to give us tthose prices..

3k-4K+ is a fairly common price outside the Emerald Traingle

and dammit  AH...shhh ..THERE IS NO CHEAP WEED HERE...hehe


and Mora..its not a cheap hobby..It can actaully make you quite a healthy profit.

But..if u mean hobby as a user..compared to drinking Alchol for a relaxing effect is about the same price,,A gram of hi-grade...say $10...You will defntly feel relaxing effects on only a few puffs..leaving a minium of .5 of gram left.....Compare this to a Glass of wine?..or Wiskey?...same price..if not cheaper



BTW..Chong said in the record..Up in Smoke..said..theres 1 Joint in  Lid......I roll big joints man....


Love
BiGB
xoxo
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: GreenCloud on November 02, 2004, 03:53:40 AM
ahh another thing....

the  Medicinal Use facilities that provide the "medicine"..in the northen cali area sells all there THC products(hash-weed-food products thc--butters, brownies, chocolates'..ect) at or around the prices on the street. It is absolutly amazing how much medicine they sell
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: Manedew on November 02, 2004, 04:27:21 AM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
ahem... been around a while, and back in my stoner days I never heard of a nickle, dime... whatever.

We bought lids. The normal stuff was $10. The better "columbian" (probably from Mexico) was $40, the really really really good stuff from Humboldt might go as high as $60.

If you were in luck, somebody might be selling "Thai Sticks" for $15 each.

Maui Wowee
Panama Red
Columbian Gold

sigh.... I'm getting old.


Panama Red ... he'll steal your woman then he'll take your head?

today we have things like ak47's....don't support terrorists??

(hope this pic doesn't violate some bbs rule ...... it's on subject- just makeing fun of diffrant names :D )

(http://it.geocities.com/cannabisneapolis/ak47.jpg)
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: Nilsen on November 02, 2004, 04:29:12 AM
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Originally posted by GreenCloud
ahh another thing....

the  Medicinal Use facilities that provide the "medicine"..in the northen cali area sells all there THC products(hash-weed-food products thc--butters, brownies, chocolates'..ect) at or around the prices on the street. It is absolutly amazing how much medicine they sell


hehehe :)
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: Silat on November 02, 2004, 05:12:46 AM
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
my day it was
1$ a joint
$5 nickle bag
$10 a dime bag
$20-25 half ounce
$30 a lid
$40-45 per ounce
$110 1/4 lb


Now

$20 a gram

$45-50  1/8th  (according to local sources)


Dred how old are you?
5 finger bag was $5 back in the day.

                  ;)
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: Mighty1 on November 02, 2004, 06:56:05 AM
Back in the day we had dime and nickle bags. When I say we I mean the people who actually bought the stuff....not me of course.;)

Actually I can honestly say I have never bought any myself. (Just don't ask me if I ever smoked any.)
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: midnight Target on November 02, 2004, 09:43:20 AM
Used to buy a pound for $100, sell 10 lids for $10 each and smoke the rest....

well, that was the plan anyway. Never seemed to work out.
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: rpm on November 02, 2004, 09:56:07 AM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Used to buy a pound for $100, sell 10 lids for $10 each and smoke the rest....

well, that was the plan anyway. Never seemed to work out.
Now you know why so many chefs are overweight.;)
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: TheDudeDVant on November 02, 2004, 10:29:48 AM
wth is a lid?? I've never heard that before..
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: rpm on November 02, 2004, 10:35:07 AM
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Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
wth is a lid?? I've never heard that before..
Seems to be a bit of confusion about that. It's an old stoner term for a bag of pot. I thought it ment an ounce, but others say it's less than an ounce.
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: Airhead on November 02, 2004, 10:45:45 AM
We used to measure "lids" by the finger- a two finger lid was roughly a half ounce, a four finger lid was closer to an ounce- a scale was never necessary, but this was back in the 60s, in San Francisco.
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: TheDudeDVant on November 02, 2004, 10:56:19 AM
so a 'lid' is like a quarter?
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: Munkii on November 02, 2004, 11:00:35 AM
Wow.. a lb of pot in Oklahoma can be had for 450 from a good source and 600 from a 3rd party dealer.  A half ounce is 20 to 25 dollars and an ounce is 50.  A dub, or quarter is around 15.00.
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: Gyro/T69 on November 02, 2004, 11:09:10 AM
"so a 'lid' is like a quarter"

In my neck of the woods. a lid was 3/4 of an ounce. A nickle bag was a quarter.
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: midnight Target on November 02, 2004, 11:19:02 AM
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Originally posted by Airhead
We used to measure "lids" by the finger- a two finger lid was roughly a half ounce, a four finger lid was closer to an ounce- a scale was never necessary, but this was back in the 60s, in San Francisco.


Exactly.
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: GreenCloud on November 02, 2004, 01:55:23 PM
mane a quick note on that pic..

the picture isnt the clearest quality..but the ak-47 seems to have a bit of powdery mildew present.

It tends too look like crystals ..but you see it built up on leaves-stems and the actual pods...

Friends of mine claim that powdery mildew was released from the Gov as a way to Biologically screw with indoor growers.
Its kinda funny.....


PM has been dormant for decades...but for some reason I see it attkaing many growers in the last couple years...PM has defnlty been around on outdoor,, and regular house plants for many moons tho..

I always laff at the conspiracy theories...hahah Gov released powdery mildew...lololo


btw I always thought a lid was supposed to be around an ounce...but hell I was born in the mid 70s..so i missed all that lingo..lolol

wastoid reefer addicts

Love
BiGB
xoxo
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: lazs2 on November 02, 2004, 02:24:24 PM
I have no problem with making pot legal so long as being on it at work gets you fired and driving with it in your system gets you a DUI.

lazs
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: Nilsen on November 02, 2004, 02:29:52 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
I have no problem with making pot legal so long as being on it at work gets you fired and driving with it in your system gets you a DUI.

lazs


agree 100%
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: Munkii on November 02, 2004, 02:53:58 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
I have no problem with making pot legal so long as being on it at work gets you fired and driving with it in your system gets you a DUI.

lazs


Only problem with that is the way THC lingers in your system.  Unless there is a way to determine the exact time and amount present (i.e. a breathalizer) it would be hard to determine.  Although drug testing is generally only administered in the event of an accident or blatant intoxication now, I'm assuming it would carry over.
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: Airhead on November 02, 2004, 03:22:08 PM
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Originally posted by Munkii
Only problem with that is the way THC lingers in your system.  Unless there is a way to determine the exact time and amount present (i.e. a breathalizer) it would be hard to determine.  Although drug testing is generally only administered in the event of an accident or blatant intoxication now, I'm assuming it would carry over.


Over here if the cop smells weed in your car you get a DUI- if you have weed in your car, but haven't been smoking it, he MAY take your weed, but that's about it- my nephew is a cop and he doesn't dick with small quantities, and usually will return bags of weed.

I have yet to hear of anyone being convicted of being under the influence of pot based upon a urinialisis, for exactly that reason. Observation by the cop is generally enough for a DUI conviction.
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Post by: mora on November 02, 2004, 03:33:01 PM
I don't see a problem in this. You can set a limit for THC blood level just like in the case of alcohol. If you are over the limit then it's a DUI. Of course the level has to be set sufficiently high to eliminate false negatives. Remember that it's a proven fact that a moderate dosage of cannabis doesn't impair your ability to drive nearly as bad as alcohol. If this issue would be researched properly, it would be possible to define a time, after which you would be in a condition to drive after taking the drug. THC can be easily tested from saliva.
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Post by: mora on November 02, 2004, 03:51:51 PM
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Originally posted by Airhead
I have yet to hear of anyone being convicted of being under the influence of pot based upon a urinialisis, for exactly that reason. Observation by the cop is generally enough for a DUI conviction.


Actually there isn't any THC is urine, there are metabolites(sp?) of THC, which are not psychoactive. In blood there can be both active THC and  it's metabolites, and there's no way to tell their difference when tested. It can take up to 24h for the blood to be completely clean.  Are theese people blood tested after "observation" or can they be convicted with just that?
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Post by: rpm on November 02, 2004, 04:22:13 PM
I'm willing to bet they COULD develop a test to determine the level of ACTIVE THC, but doing so would cost them DUI convictions. Right now any marijuana use is illegal. Why would they want to reduce the amount of convictions? There is no incentive to do so by law enforcement and procecutors. They want easier convictions, not acquittals.
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Post by: lazs2 on November 02, 2004, 04:56:08 PM
I am willing to have it be that  if you smoke pot you simply give up your right to drive or take your chances..   If it stays in your system then tough.   Is it more important to smoke pot or to drive?

if the cop suspects you of driving badly and you flunk the pot test..... DUI.

lazs
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Post by: B17Skull12 on November 02, 2004, 05:44:25 PM
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Originally posted by vorticon
you do realize you are referring to a suprisingly large amount of people...
why exactly would i care?  People who do that stuff are morons and prove obviously don't know right from wrong.
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Post by: SOB on November 02, 2004, 06:00:24 PM
Enlighten me.  What is "wrong" about smoking marijuana?
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Post by: Regular on November 02, 2004, 06:08:14 PM
People who do not smoke just dont know where to obtain it.:cool:


Otherwise they secretly desire the lovable effects of MJ.:p
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Post by: rpm on November 02, 2004, 07:27:28 PM
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Originally posted by B17Skull12
why exactly would i care?  People who do that stuff are morons and prove obviously don't know right from wrong.
Let me guess. You went to elementary school during or after the Reagan Administration. What they failed to tell you in D.A.R.E. is prohibition is a lucrative business. They also failed to tell you of the corruption in the D.A.R.E. program.

I agree nobody should drive impaired, but someone that smoked a joint 3 - 10 days ago but still has the metabaloids (?) in their system and has no active effects should not be arrested. The same for on the job. As long as they are not under the influence they should be left alone. Now if you are pulled over and have a smoking joint in the ashtray or you slip off and smoke a joint during lunch or right before work, yes you deserve to face the concequences of your actions.
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Post by: Airhead on November 02, 2004, 08:54:07 PM
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Originally posted by SOB
Enlighten me.  What is "wrong" about smoking marijuana?


Why don't you enlighten me, SOB- What is "Right" about smoking marijuana?

I'm not talking about your "right" to abuse yourself in whichever manner you choose, provided you don't create victims due to your...."rights," but beyond that there's a very real "wrong" with weed, coke, meth, alcohol, or whatever other substance you wish to abuse- It robs you of human potential.



My advice to Skull, Grunherz and the other kids on this Board is "Just Say No." Wait until your mind is fully developed before you destroy it- stay straight, study hard in school, get a great career and THEN get blasted.

Otherwise you'll end up like SOB...getting oral from a trout.
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Post by: rpm on November 02, 2004, 09:05:02 PM
Airhead, we learned that Prohibition does not work. You can not force one person's morality upon another. Prohibition makes criminals of otherwise honest citizens just like banning guns would make criminals of otherwise honest gun owners. Remember, it's mentioned in the bill of rights too. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Whaaat? It does'nt say pot!?! Well neither does "the right to bear arms" say AR-15's.
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Post by: Airhead on November 02, 2004, 09:50:56 PM
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Originally posted by rpm
Airhead, we learned that Prohibition does not work. You can not force one person's morality upon another. Prohibition makes criminals of otherwise honest citizens just like banning guns would make criminals of otherwise honest gun owners. Remember, it's mentioned in the bill of rights too. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Whaaat? It does'nt say pot!?! Well neither does "the right to bear arms" say AR-15's.


Hey, I don't care if you smoke pot or not; if anything its quasi-legalization here has had the twofold effect in helping Granny afford the more expensive brand of cat food for supper PLUS it's running the commercial growers out of business.

All I'm doing is advising those in school to refrain until their brains are developed before they start destroying their brain cells.

My opinion on pot prohibition hasn't changed in 35 years- it's a joke, and there's more pot on the streets than ever before. More coke and crank, too- but, because prohibition hasn't worked, should all recreational drugs be legalized?
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Post by: Gunslinger on November 02, 2004, 10:24:14 PM
Would you all beleive this is one of the MAIN issues that dissenfranchises me from the republican party.  I totally agree that POT should be legalized.  Think of the tax revenue......think of the crime reduction.

I'm firm though that I think the age limit should be 18 and up.  

I know ALOT of pot heads from back home....in fact were I went to school you did 1 of 4 things afterwords......

1.  You didn't change a thing and you are still a pot head but you now manage the gass station you worked at through highschool

2.  You went to college and either graduated or fell into other catagegories

3.  You joined the military

4.  You worked a 40 hour a week grinder of a job slowly working your way up to mid level management.


Kids are still gonna smoke just like kids today still drink underage.  The difference is that adults can now do it but probably wont cause it's legal.
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Post by: midnight Target on November 02, 2004, 10:33:34 PM
I was a certified stoner folks and Airhead is right. Pot makes ya stupid and lazy. I quit for a reason, and it was one of the best things I've ever done.

Stay away from that chit.
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Post by: rpm on November 02, 2004, 10:39:11 PM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Would you all beleive this is one of the MAIN issues that dissenfranchises me from the republican party.  I totally agree that POT should be legalized.  Think of the tax revenue......think of the crime reduction.

I'm firm though that I think the age limit should be 18 and up.
Guns, once again we are on the same page.
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Post by: B17Skull12 on November 02, 2004, 11:17:02 PM
POT=Bad.  I learned that and will keep true to it.  I don't think it is funny.  It ruins your life, your grades, your everything.  Only failures use it.
Title: Pot, it's not just for bored oil workers
Post by: lazs2 on November 02, 2004, 11:18:52 PM
yep.. one of the first drugs I quit... stupid and lazy and boring.

lazs
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Post by: mora on November 03, 2004, 01:57:04 AM
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Originally posted by B17Skull12
POT=Bad.  I learned that and will keep true to it.  I don't think it is funny.  It ruins your life, your grades, your everything.  Only failures use it.


Pot has different effects on different people. If you didn't find it enjoyable then good for you. A lot of people feel differently. I don't think that a minor should use any drugs. When I was your age it was the losers who used it. 10 years after the situation is not that simple, I can't make that conclusion from the people I know. Yes it can ruin your life if you decide to make it a constant habit. Too much of anything isn't healthy. If you play computer games all day, the effect on your life is pretty much the same,  excluding the reduced short term memory.
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Post by: mora on November 03, 2004, 01:58:55 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
yep.. one of the first drugs I quit... stupid and lazy and boring.

lazs


Because of that a lot of people stay way from it, which is a good thing.
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Post by: GreenCloud on November 03, 2004, 02:11:08 AM
I used to get High on life......



                                        But then I built up a tolerance
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Post by: mora on November 03, 2004, 02:13:48 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
I am willing to have it be that  if you smoke pot you simply give up your right to drive or take your chances..   If it stays in your system then tough.   Is it more important to smoke pot or to drive?

if the cop suspects you of driving badly and you flunk the pot test..... DUI.

lazs


I agree, but in all fairness there should be a zero limit on alcohol in your blood aswell.
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Post by: Lazerus on November 03, 2004, 02:32:27 AM
Hell, I quite smoking (for the most part) about ten years ago. I still have quite a few friends that do on a daily basis though, so I have been kept up to date on the supply/demend side of it.

A 1/4oz of standard commercial bud runs about $40. Hydro will run ya about 80-100 a 1/4oz. These are about the same as when I was buying back in the early 90's.

Best I ever had?.....I was working for a contractor on an outside AC unit. End of the day job. Woman asked him if he could clean out the basement for $20, I volunteered.

The corner full of trash produced an ammo box. It was almost pitch black back there. I popped it open when I found it, out popped a QP.

I finished the job with pot in every place I could put it. I had 40 year old guys crawling on the floor with that watermelon (I was in my late teens). Hell, one ounce was one bud in a baggie.

Finished it in about a week, didn't sell any of it. Quit right after that.
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Post by: lazs2 on November 03, 2004, 08:46:28 AM
I got no problem with zero tollerance on booze either..  in California it is .04 for commercial drivers... less than one drink an hour ago...

lazs
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Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on November 03, 2004, 08:59:29 AM
Drugs is all around you kids. Look at that marker, take the cap off and sniff it. It'll get you hhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiggg ggggghhhhhhhhhh. - Tyrone Biggins
-SW