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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: RightF00T on November 02, 2004, 01:37:24 PM
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Those grapes sure are dangerous...:rofl :rofl
"Aghh Aghh Agghh stop stop Aghhh I cant breath" :lol
http://www.89xradio.com/atlantagrape.mpeg
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Almost as good as the guy beating on the PT Cruiser. :)
Of course... I wonder if they decided to rethink their contest after that fall... standing in a bucket four feet above the ground and stomping around is probably a bad plan.
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm "The Grapes of Wrath"
:D
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thats an oldie but a goodie!
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"guy beating on the PT Cruiser"??? What movie is that?
Did this woman just become squeemish and freak out? I am not sure if I totally understand what happened.
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Originally posted by Mickey1992
"guy beating on the PT Cruiser"??? What movie is that?
Did this woman just become squeemish and freak out? I am not sure if I totally understand what happened.
I think she was saying stop squishing the grapes, and then she just went to climb out and bit it. But as my old wrestling coach used to say whenever someone complained about breathing, "If you can talk you can breathe".
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She was trying to be funny so she told the Grape expert to stop...then she stomped real fast as if she was winning the "race". Then she for some reason tried to step out and took the plunge.
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Originally posted by Mickey1992
"guy beating on the PT Cruiser"??? What movie is that?
Did this woman just become squeemish and freak out? I am not sure if I totally understand what happened.
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=1451968#post1451968
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She sounded like a wounded seal...seemed to have the same dexterity as one on land, as well.
Any cameraman worth his salt would have filmed her on the ground...fire fire him. :lol
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Originally posted by Sandman
Almost as good as the guy beating on the PT Cruiser. :)
That one would've been funnier in a CCW state.
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Originally posted by jigsaw
That one would've been funnier in a CCW state.
True, but lethal force probably isn't necessary to protect ones car. If it was a CCW and the woman did shoot him, she would be in for a long haul in the court (especially because it's on tape).
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How does she know he's just assaulting her car? Say someone is shooting at you while you're driving, do you wait until a bullet hits you before you defend yourself? I think any court would look at the tape and agree that's it's logical to assume she is being assaulted.
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Hmmm... maybe because he spent very little time on the windshield and driver's side window.
Though it was disturbing, it didn't appear that her life was threatened.
Maybe it was... but I think it would be far from cut and dried in a courtroom.
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To extend that reasoning, you could argue that the US should not have declared war against Japan because, after all, Japan was just bombing ships in Pearl Harbor, not 'attacking the USA'.
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Originally posted by Sandman
True, but lethal force probably isn't necessary to protect ones car. If it was a CCW and the woman did shoot him, she would be in for a long haul in the court (especially because it's on tape).
Anyone does what he did, must be trying to kill me your Honor.
After he smashed 3 of my windows and started to swing at the window I was behind, having no exit and in complete fear of my life I put three holes in his head to stop him from killing me. I used my legal SIG 220 .45 ACP. I have a CCW, am a local businessman ex GI and don’t even have a traffic ticket on my record.
As evidence I submit several witnesses, my car and the deceased rap sheet and toxicology reports. (I may even get the tape)
No DA would touch it and I won’t miss (he will not be in the courtroom)
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Sheeit, that would be a 5 minute case, and they would give the driver a medal, espcially if it was taped.
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Originally posted by Sandman
True, but lethal force probably isn't necessary to protect ones car. If it was a CCW and the woman did shoot him, she would be in for a long haul in the court (especially because it's on tape).
To protect the car...no.
As soon as that tire iron started toward the drivers side window with my head on the other side of it...yes.
Forgot where I heard this originally...
"Better to be tried by twelve than carried by six."
I'd think the tape pretty self incriminating for the perp, with his lasts words nearly being "Hey ya'll, watchis."
But then again, I have no faith in our legal system.
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If you are in the car, you are protecting yourself. If you walk out of the store and see him bashing your car and shoot him, you are in trouble.
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I've heard people make some pretty wild noises when in pain and had the wind knocked out of em but those have to be the strangest sounds I ever heard LOL
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LOL!!! "Ooowwww owww oooooo!!! Ooowwww oowwww oooooo!!!"
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I guess ya'll haven't heard the radio bit of that video put to rap? Pretty damn funny, once you get over the pain.
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wounded seal, LOL!!
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See Rule #4
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I've had the wind knocked outta me plenty of times. The seal reaction was by far the best. I laugh at everything equally, piss off Hawk :)
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"I put three holes in his head to stop him from killing me."
The opposing lawyer would eat that up--makes it look like you deliberately killed the guy.
Hint--if your intent is to KILL the other guy, even if in defence of your own life, you still will likely go to jail. You should NEVER be trying to kill the other guy; your goal when shooting in self-defence is ONLY to stop the aggression.
Deliberately putting three holes in somebody's head looks like a bit more than halting the aggression. That looks like....voluntary manslaughter. I'd give you a 50/50 chance in such a scenario. Depends on how good the respective lawyers are.
(A) No person, while under the influence of sudden passion or in a sudden fit of rage, either of which is brought on by serious provocation occasioned by the victim that is reasonably sufficient to incite the person into using deadly force, shall knowingly cause the death of another or the unlawful termination of another's pregnancy.
(B) Whoever violates this section is guilty of voluntary manslaughter, a felony of the first degree.
--From the ORC. Granted we're talking about Nevada--for the purposes of discussion, I assume Nevada statutes are similar.
When you shoot in self-defence, aim for the center of mass. Larger area to hit, and somewhat less likely to be lethal than a head shot.
J_A_B
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Originally posted by J_A_B
--From the ORC. Granted we're talking about Nevada--for the purposes of discussion, I assume Nevada statutes are similar.
J_A_B
In AZ you must shoot with intent to kill. If you shoot with intent to "maim", you get in deep poop. Their key phrase is "I was in fear for my life."
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In Ohio, you're also in deep trouble if you shoot to wound. Reason being if you're shooting only to wound, that implies that you're in a situation that you didn't feel lethal force was justifiable--hence you shouldn't have been using the gun in the first place (a gun is by definition lethal force whether it actually kills or not).
You don't "shoot to maim", but don't deliberately try to kill either. There's a distinction in there. If the attacker dies of his wounds, it should only be an unfortunate by-product of your use of a last-resort option to protect your own life.
In the hypothetical case above, conviction would rest on whether the shooter was still fearful of his life when he put the second and third rounds into his attacker's head, or if he was trying to "make sure" the guy died.
J_A_B
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Me, I'm unloading in the general direction, while making rapid evasive retrograde movement.
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Originally posted by J_A_B
"I put three holes in his head to stop him from killing me."
The opposing lawyer would eat that up--makes it look like you deliberately killed the guy.
Hint--if your intent is to KILL the other guy, even if in defence of your own life, you still will likely go to jail. You should NEVER be trying to kill the other guy; your goal when shooting in self-defence is ONLY to stop the aggression.
Deliberately putting three holes in somebody's head looks like a bit more than halting the aggression. That looks like....voluntary manslaughter. I'd give you a 50/50 chance in such a scenario. Depends on how good the respective lawyers are.
(A) No person, while under the influence of sudden passion or in a sudden fit of rage, either of which is brought on by serious provocation occasioned by the victim that is reasonably sufficient to incite the person into using deadly force, shall knowingly cause the death of another or the unlawful termination of another's pregnancy.
(B) Whoever violates this section is guilty of voluntary manslaughter, a felony of the first degree.
--From the ORC. Granted we're talking about Nevada--for the purposes of discussion, I assume Nevada statutes are similar.
When you shoot in self-defence, aim for the center of mass. Larger area to hit, and somewhat less likely to be lethal than a head shot.
J_A_B
JAB, slow down take a deep breath and go reread my post,..... done? ok.
I said I fired three times to "STOP HIM FROM KILLING ME" I was taught as the police are taught to fire several rounds "double tap "as it can take more then one to stop the perp. I never said I was trying to kill him just stop him, I can fire three rounds with my .45 in about 1.8 secs and that is how I train, this is how all law enforcement are taught.
As far as center of mass, I agree with you as that is the best aiming spot no doubt. In the scenario above however I would be siting in my car with this guy about 2 ft from me and as his head is above the horizon I would be much less likely to hit someone standing across the street by aiming high. I am fairly sure that at the range a through penetrating round would be likely. I have no problem hitting a target thet size at two ft.
My guess is he would be doing 60 mph to the next county if looking down the pipe, so to speak. I noticed he picked a car with a woman in it and not a jacked up Ford 4X4 350 diesel with some god old boys in it.
Friggen punk, will have a short life and no one will morn his passing.
Regards
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In most states if you tell the investigater that some crazy guy came out of the blue yelling at me and bashing my car obviously trying to bash me and I feared for my life you will not see any trouble. Especially with that video....the lady was traped, no were to go.
My first reaction would have been the wrong one. I would have ran the guy over as soon as he ran in front of my car. On the adrenyline rush of ridding society of scumb I probably would have blabbed that I ment to turn him into a speed bump and I'd go to jail for it.
I don't vision a jury though that's gonna make somone do serious time for ridding the world of that guy in that situation.
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Wasn't a question of the validity of use of lethal force in that situation Scootter, only the way you put it initially.
"siting in my car with this guy about 2 ft from me and as his head is above the horizon I would be much less likely to hit someone standing across the street by aiming high. I am fairly sure that at the range a through penetrating round would be likely."
THAT is much better sounding than "i put three holes in his head", wouldn't you agree? Say it this new way, and no way you'd be convicted of anything.
Remember that even if you're justified, in court the opposing lawyer is going to try to bury you. Best to not give him even the slightest chance. Always good to think of this stuff in advance.
Incedentally I use a .45 too, but an HK rather than a SiG although I trust the SiG equally. Not sure how fast I can get three aimed shots off, never really timed myself except in the course of passing qualification--and then it's really more about accuracy than speed.
J_A_B
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If you were in the car behind the pt cruiser and you had the possiblity to pin the man or "bump" him fearing for the person in the pt cruisers life. Would you get a bad rap for it ? Or would you be a everyday hero not knowing if that guy would go farther and assault the driver.?
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See Rule #7
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Hawklore, I knew someone would reply somethin to effect of yours, so I then thought about editing the post
....but then I remembered how much it made me laugh and frankly, it would be selfish not to share. :)
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you folks like watching people get hurt?
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Me watching it doesn't increase her pain, but it sure does make me laugh. I still feel her pain, but busting yer arse is always funny.
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Originally posted by Hawklore
See Rule #4
I laughed so hard at the noises she made, I got the hiccups.
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Ya'll touchy feely types think she doesn't look back on that and laugh herself silly?
Ya'll never laughed at your buddy when he hit his thumb with a hammer?
Suuure ya didn't.
Besides, as Stuka stated. If you can talk, you can breathe. If you've ever had the wind knocked out of you before, you'd understand there's no way you could do anything but gasp.
She was going for attention at that point.
But, it is pretty funny watching ya'll claim we're sadistic just because we can laugh at it. :D
On the PT thing...not sure if you could get away with running over him. At that point the judge would probably ask why you didn't just drive away.
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See Rule #4
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I don't know about the "if you can talk, you can breath" thing.
Recently, a young guy died after a cop handcuffed him and put a hood over his head. In the audio, the kid was pleading "I can't breath, I can't breath! I have asthma!"
The cop was heard saying: "son, if you can talk you can breath"
The kid died thanks to that genius cop's logic.
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Hawklore. Being a typical bulletproof teenager with a highpowered dirt bike, I stood on the seat and spread my arms. I was a wonderous sight as the bike wobbled and threw me off, wadding me up and removing large patches of skin. The @!$#@$% bike never dropped and ended up leaning against a tree. I made sounds that make hers pale in comparison as I dragged myself to the bike and rode home, hurt and humbled.
I didn't laugh then, but I can not help but laugh now.
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Originally posted by Hawklore
See Rule #4
Been there, done it. Climbed and fell out of many a tree growing up. Easily from better than three feet. Hence how I know from personal experience about the talking and not being able to breathe.
I laugh about those and several far more serious accidents I've survived.
I have to give it to you Hawk.
In the immortal words of Michael Wincott..."if it's any consolation to you, you have put a smile on my face."
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I cant imagine you sitting over there with a red face typing away furiously. Dont take things so serious bud...
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Originally posted by Hawklore
See Rule #4
I have taken alot of falls like she took and ya know what, I got laughed at lol, infact I laughed at myself alot. Im sorry if you feel for this woman, but the fact is she probably only came out of this with mabye some brusies, especially to her ego.
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She busted her ass, that's funny.
The sounds she made - comedy gold.
-SW
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Playing hockey in gym in school. Took a slapshot from some chick strait to you know where from about 4 feet away. Fell on my knees, swallowed some barf, and made a buch of funny noises. About a week later I was laughing so hard at myself I be close to peeing my pants.
And I dont care who you are, you take any kind of hit and it hurts real bad.
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I thought the next best part, after the seal noises, was the witty banter of the anchors. "Oooh, she's not actually hurt" "Yes she is, she's seriously hurt" "We'll get an update on that for you"
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What makes it even funnier is it happened "LIVE" the gal back in the studio was doing all she could to not laugh. I also tried to control my laughter but a chuckle did slip out...ok I laughed
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Heh, that's awesome.
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See Rule # 15
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Cool! Give me the website! :rolleyes:
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See Rule #7
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See Rule #7
If this is a joke about gutting a fish or cleaning an animal, its still disgusting since it seems to trivialize recent atrocities.
Just my opinion
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See Rule #4
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See Rule #15
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Originally posted by TweetyBird
>>you guys want a link to some seriously funny beheading videos. the screams people make when their windpipe is severed is just hillarious.
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See some of the most obscene things posted contain no profanity. Yeager, if you ever come to a con, take this post. I would like to meet you.
lol......tweety throws down a Mr Black threat!
Tweety, if you only knew :)
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Well I guess its something to do with a pun, but do you think its cool to use the recent beheadings as a joke?
I must live in another century, I dunno.
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Ok - had to read the entire thread (and watch the video)- Sorry Yeager. You were making the point of how ridiculous it is for others laugh at people's pain. Didn't realize your posts were sarcasm. I'm just batting 1000 this week...
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You want to know what makes this funny? Its the fact that every major television market has some ridiculous morning show with some ridiculous morning show reporter "out on the town" to report on activities gonig on the next weekend. And secretly, we all despise the reporters for trivializing or, conversely, over-hyping the event by taking part in a demonstration of it. Did the reporter really need to stomp grapes to show us how it was done? No. But she did because she wanted to show everyone that she was important and therefore, it was important to go stomp grapes. And the fact that she tried to be cute about it for the audience, then fell flat on her face, was a nice punchline.
Its like all of those reporters who think its important to stand in knee-deep water just to report on street flooding during a storm. "Look at me! Look at me! Isn't this dramatic!" Blah. I'm waiting for the day someone does a cannonball behind them and splashes sewage water all over the reporter's suit and tie.
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Originally posted by Yeager
you guys want a link to some seriously funny beheading videos. the screams people make when their windpipe is severed is just hillarious.
C'mon Yeager, not in the same catagory, and you know it. Don't legitimize Hawk's outrage.
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Is the video and sound out of sync, or does she start squeeling before she loses balance? Now it looks like she got a mental condition.
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see rule # 13
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See Rule # 13