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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Scootter on November 03, 2004, 04:44:12 PM
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What say you?
oh ya sorry about the Kerry thing, but crap happens don't cha know!:D
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Me say :
John Bush or Georges Kerry ... who care ?
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Originally posted by straffo
Me say :
John Bush or Georges Kerry ... who care ?
Now thats fugging funny!
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Who's yo daddy?!
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/041103/1/3o8sn.html (http://sg.news.yahoo.com/041103/1/3o8sn.html)
Damn I like being the "ugly American"
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I promised that i would only give my comment on the election once, so i wont repeat myself... If you really care (dont expect that you do :D ) then you can search for it.
-edit- this is how the norwegian PM + the leader of the largest political party thinks:
http://pub.tv2.no/nettavisen/english/article297901.ece
"Norwegian PM Kjell Magne Bondevik hopes the president in the US the next four years will be much better at collaborating internationally."
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euros
What say you?
I say buy them while they're still relatively cheap.
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" Don't want to be an American Idiot
Don't want a nation under the new mania
Can You here the sound of hysteria
The subliminal mindf**k america
Welcome to the new King of tension
All across the Alienation
where everything isn't meant to be ok
Television dreams of tomorrow
were not the ones meant to follow
for thats enough to argue
Maybe I'm the f*****America
I'm not a part of the red neck agenda
Now everybody do the propaganda
and sing along to the age of Paranoia
Don't want to be an American Idiot
One nation controlled by the media
Information age of hysteria
Calling out to idiot America."
Green Day said it best!
Thankfully I'm not one!
:aok
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Originally posted by straffo
Me say :
John Bush or Georges Kerry ... who care ?
Ya make me laugh!!!
Who cares??? lol
You, Nob for the last 12 months.
Such a tool:D
4 more years, then his bro Jeb for 4 more.
Don't ya love it
Americans could not care less what ya think, sorry:cool: Burp!!
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I say buy them while they're still relatively cheap.
Eh? 2002 the exchance rates were about 1 to 1, best I found was ~0,9$ for 1 €.
Now 1€ = 1,27$....
Well you may be right saying €s are still "relatively cheap"...
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Well you ought to unless you have invented a way of lifting your nation off the planet and into space! You are part of this world whether you like it or not! Bad things come back to haunt you eventualy. Thats sadly, what Sept 11 showed. (or maybe like your daft president you just don't learn!?):rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Tinpot
[B (or maybe like your daft president you just don't learn!?):rolleyes: [/B]
Yep we do, so there. now go eat a crumpet or something.:)
Wanabe dweeb!
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Probably something you don't get much of ;)
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Originally posted by Tinpot
Probably something you don't get much of ;)
LOL I get plenty of what I want, how about you?:cool:
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Enough!
:D
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Originally posted by -dead-
I say buy them while they're still relatively cheap.
Yep, it was good for the Canadian dollar as well.
http://www.canada.com/national/story.html?id=643ea3a5-cedc-4174-b3eb-448e1da85de1
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Originally posted by Tinpot
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Thankfully I'm not one!
:aok
Agreed, thankfully... you aren't one.
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!!!!!:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Scootter
Ya make me laugh!!!
Who cares??? lol
You, Nob for the last 12 months.
don't think so.
Such a tool:D
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correct , you are.
4 more years, then his bro Jeb for 4 more.
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Monarchy ?
Don't ya love it
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Monarchy ? nope , I hate monarchy
Americans could not care less what ya think, sorry:cool: Burp!!
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wtf do you ask ?
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Internaly, I hope Bush doesn't make the economy slide too far.
Internationaly makes no difference to me. I don't like either but Kerry even less. Badnarik I prefer.
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Four more years with that dimwit? Hhhmmm letmethinkasecond...Better you than me !
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I dunno, in the US I never had any limitations to what I could do, compared to anywhere else I'd lived before.
I'll be elsewhere for 1.5 more years..
Saw Chirac on the beach over here when he came on vacation.. Loud mouth laughing on the cell phone with the puny wife more or less exposed to the sun, only 1 bodyguard that I could see with his big shoes in the sand... luckily for aerodynamic-head he didn't have to run anyone down :D
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Originally posted by Scootter
What say you?
TV theatre is over, back to war ? ...dunno what else to say really.
g'day
Gh0stFT
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I surrender!
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Originally posted by moot
I dunno, in the US I never had any limitations to what I could do, compared to anywhere else I'd lived before.
I'll be elsewhere for 1.5 more years..
Been in the army and going back for another 1,5 years then i guess?
No limitations here either, so it must be some US propaganda that they are feeding you cause no "euros" have any idea what you are on about when americans start chanting about that "freedom" that you are supposed to have a monoply on.
Rock on ! :D
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Been in the army and going back for another 1,5 years then i guess?
No limitations here either, so it must be some US propaganda that they are feeding you cause no "euros" have any idea what you are on about when americans start chanting about that "freedom" that you are supposed to have a monoply on.
Rock on ! :D
I can think of several limitations, which I encounter daily. There's no country in the world without limitations, they just tend to be different.
In Finland for example:
Gasoline is so expensive it prohibits me from moving around. There are a lot of different traffic related limitations. There are stupid limitations on office hours. There are restrictions and heavy taxation on alcohol. Heavy income and sales taxation, someone else chooses how half of my income is spent. I could go on... I believe these apply to Norway too.
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Originally posted by mora
I can think of several limitations, which I encounter daily. There's no country in the world without limitations, they just tend to be different.
In Finland for example:
Gasoline is so expensive it prohibits me from moving around. There are a lot of different traffic related limitations. There are stupid limitations on office hours. There are restrictions and heavy taxation on alcohol. Heavy income and sales taxation, someone else chooses how half of my income is spent. I could go on... I believe these apply to Norway too.
Sure, but the money you have to spend on yourself at the end of the day is the same or more because we dont have to buy medical insurance and so on. Dont want to start yet another debate on the issue. Every civilized nation has rules and regulations that limit you or else there would be chaos and anarchy.
Bottom line is that there is about the same amount of freedom only in slighty different areas.
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There's plenty of privately owned health-centers in every City and bigger town; why didn't you use those?
They're not that expensive, even I can afford to use them.
Anyways Finland isn't a DDR; if you think some other place is better just pack your stuff and move out; It's that simple :)
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btw at the weekend my friend told he about older fellow he knows; guy was bright red commie and was really thinking communism is best system out there and that Cuba was the place he wanted to live.
All right; He made his move and left Finland to have a new life in his "wonderland" Cuba.
In two years he came back as a 100% capitalist and cursed all communists to hell... :D
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Staga, I deleted the post you are replying to...
So in your opinion I shouldn't have the right to complain? Maybe DDR would be your ideal country after all.:)
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Nice country we're living in; you have a right to complain and I have a right to tell you find a better place and move there :)
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I'm not going to try to convince you. IF you are happy as you are, good for you.
It's not propaganda but what I saw for myself.
I know in the US I'll make way more cash (and most likely - initialy at least- more resources for studying) than anywhere else, more easily. And I like the people there better. I don't like traditions getting in my plans' way.
Money = power, and I don't care about influencing other people, I mean power to get more of what I want for myself; and not at the expense of others either.
It's not the army, I'm doing another degree over here while I sort something out to be able to finish the one I started over there.
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Okidoki... i really should not speak for all of europe either, cause it consists of many individual countries with different system as i know you know.
I can only speak for my country and we have the same freedom and when it comes to purchasing power then i don't want to start another debate on that issue either but you could find that out for yourself.
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Always wanted to see Sri Lanka and surroundings, maybe when I'm done with my studies I'll come have a look...
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poor poor tinpot! is that a tear I see? holed up in his room with a green day cd on his euro puny player and looking at old vhs speeches by michelle moore on his 19" taxed to the hilt TV.
Clutching his cricket paddle thing while hiding under the bed in case a burglar comes.
hey! I bet I could write song lyrics too!
lazs
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staga said..
"Anyways Finland isn't a DDR; if you think some other place is better just pack your stuff and move out; It's that simple "
love it or leave it eh?
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
poor poor tinpot! is that a tear I see? holed up in his room with a green day cd on his euro puny player and looking at old vhs speeches by michelle moore on his 19" taxed to the hilt TV.
Clutching his cricket paddle thing while hiding under the bed in case a burglar comes.
hey! I bet I could write song lyrics too!
lazs
was that directed at me?
if so... never seen moores video, nor do i own a green day cd or a vhs player or 19" TV. You will find a tear tho, but not because of any of this.
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I live in a world governed by Biggoted Redneck American d*ckheads in a country who's PM just runs along behind brown nosing.
Thank god we got an election next year. I'll vote for anyone with an intelligent world view!
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Well I've seen some countries and been in touch to people living there and I gotta say Finland is quite nice place to be... but each his own; some guys like mom while other screws daughter, if I'd like to fool around with a blond teenager scout-leader I wouldn't love 28y old brunette :)
Tried both; like this one much more even if she's not as kinky :D
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no nielsen... it was directed at tinpot whos is so depressed he cut his hour a day at the pub down to 5 or so. just can't face people anymore knowing he is the only smart guy on the planet.
lazs
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Originally posted by -dead-
I say buy them while they're still relatively cheap.
What backs the euro --
You might want to do a little research on the the european bond market and see how comfortable you are with the euro.
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In a few years time oil will prolly be traded in euros because of the falling value of the dollar. They are talking about it now, but im not sure what they end up doing. If the dollar gets strong again then its not gonna be a change i think. Trade in other products are increasingly done in euros.
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It wont be very good for anyone if it happens. The result will be a very strong euro and a weaker dollar. That will mean that USA will have to pay alot more for its oil and other imports, and we will get american products even cheaper than we do now. The flipside for us is that we wont export as much to USA as we do now (3 times what we import from US) and that will hurt some companies and tourism abit.
For now the dollar is the main trading currency around the world and will continue to be for the close future but that may change as more countries and business is moved to the euro.
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Originally posted by GScholz
What backs the USD?
(http://www.jsonline.com/news/attack/sep01/640flag3.jpg)
:D :rofl
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PS (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2004/11/03/do0302.xml&sSheet=/opinion/2004/11/02/ixopinion.html)
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Originally posted by Scootter
What say you?
oh ya sorry about the Kerry thing, but crap happens don't cha know!:D
you actually forgot Poland ;-)
what can i say? i think (NOT SURE but almost sure) Poland was the only (or maybe one of our tv news stations screwed the "only" part) euro country that prefered Bush over Kerry. Actually Bush had more then 80% support here.
As i said, not sure if no other countries prefered Bush over Kerry, but that's what i heard yesterday.
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Regardles of how i feel about the Bush regime i never would want the american economy to collapse.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Regardles of how i feel about the Bush regime i never would want the american economy to collapse.
Agree. :eek:
Domino effect..... the Economical Armageddon.
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Very well put Naso and GS.
And if bush decides to launch yet another war against someone?
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Originally posted by GScholz
If they do not cut spending and at least halt the increase of debt, a collapse is inevitable. The US gross national product is about 10 trillion USD, so if the current spending is continued the USA will owe a whole years worth of US value production (including foreign trade in USD) by about 2010.
In 1984 I remember the same thing being said. :rofl Course, you were probably 3 then.
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Do you mind ripley!!
we are plotting the downfall of america here so some privacy would be apreciated :o
:)
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When I was nine I learned survival
Taught myself not to care
I was my single good companion
Taking my comfort there
Up in my room I planned my conquests
On my own, never asked for a helping hand
No one would understand
i digress... where were we? oh the downfall of ripley!
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on the topic on the downfall of taiwanese economy....
ever heard of the musical called Chess GS?
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Originally posted by GScholz
No I was 9, but that's inconsequential. The simple fact is that in 1987 the USA owed 2.3 trillion USD. Now the USA owes 7.4 trillion USD.
And the inflation rate calculated in? About 5,000,000,000,000 today. Yes, its up there. Yes, Bush needs to curb spending. But we're not panicked yet.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
And the inflation rate since the?
the who...the doors?...the what ??
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Oh, and who do we owe this debt to?
(http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/owed.gif)
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Originally posted by GScholz
Sure, why?
like it, or not your thing?
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Originally posted by GScholz
What does it matter?
Btw. 22.7% of seven trillion is a mighty big number if you ask me.
All we need to do to repay that is to get our money back that we've loaned to other countries, and stop giving Aid to other countries. That would more than pay for your 22.7 % ;) ;)
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Originally posted by GScholz
I haven't listened to it in years, but yeah I like it. However, what does it have to do with Taiwan?
Who knows, but someone is bound to like it there too.
I love my Chess CD's and LP's and its one of those that i never get tired of :)
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Been in the army and going back for another 1,5 years then i guess?
No limitations here either, so it must be some US propaganda that they are feeding you cause no "euros" have any idea what you are on about when americans start chanting about that "freedom" that you are supposed to have a monoply on.
Rock on ! :D
That would be because you take your freedom for granted since it was a gift and you didn't earn it.
Kinda simple eh?
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Is our sky falling again G?
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Originally posted by Rude
That would be because you take your freedom for granted since it was a gift and you didn't earn it.
Kinda simple eh?
Lol thats rich... who are you saying gave us the freedom?
USA? ROFL
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Originally posted by GScholz
I repeat my question: What does it matter?
It doesn't matter whom you owe the money to, what matters is that the USA (both government and public) keep spending more than they make, and increasing the debt of your nation. Everyone who has ever had to manage their own personal economy knows you can't just keep borrowing more and more money endlessly.
If we run into severe financial problems, we'll just invade your country. We have the Powa!
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Originally posted by Staga
Eh? 2002 the exchance rates were about 1 to 1, best I found was ~0,9$ for 1 €.
Now 1€ = 1,27$....
Well you may be right saying €s are still "relatively cheap"...
hehe we were kidding with guys at work, if he will make it 1~1 to CHF :D
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Orel please report here : http://www.eurosquad.ch/forum/
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Lol thats rich... who are you saying gave us the freedom?
USA? ROFL
sure brave american dude with havana smoke saved your white haired granny
you didnt know that ? :rofl
und bring back white sweater :D
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Originally posted by straffo
Orel please report here : http://www.eurosquad.ch/forum/
as you command my big nosed squadie...
:)
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Originally posted by lada
sure brave american dude with havana smoke saved your white haired granny
you didnt know that ? :rofl
und bring back white sweater :D
this one?
(http://www.alpinsiden.com/erik/F1000015.jpg)
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Originally posted by Nilsen
When I was nine I learned survival
Taught myself not to care
I was my single good companion
Taking my comfort there
Up in my room I planned my conquests
On my own, never asked for a helping hand
No one would understand
i digress... where were we? oh the downfall of ripley!
Life is short
Filled with stuff
Don't know what for
I ain't had enough
I learned all I know
By the age of nine
But i could better myself
If i could only find
Some new kind of kick
Something i ain't had
Some new kind of buzz
I wanna go hog mad
Lookin' and lookin' and lookin' for
Something i ain't had before
I'm lookin' and lookin' and lookin' and lookin' to find
Some new kind of kick
Some new kind of kick
Gimme a kick
Like baby needs mom
Like Susie needs Dick
This baby needs
Some new kind of kick
I want some new kind of kick
I want some new kind of kick
I want some new kind of kick
I'm lookin' and lookin' and lookin' for
Something i ain't had before
I'm lookin and lookin' and lookin' and lookin' to find
Some new kind of kick
I want some new kind of kick
I want some new kind of kick
I want some new kind of kick
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PS to debt alarmists.
Add up GDP (or GNP) for all the countries in the EU. Then add up total EU government debt. Then divide the former by the latter. I'm not sure you'll see a number much different than the US.
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What tune was that funked?
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1988 National Debt 2.6 Trillion
1988 Gross Domestic Product 5.1 Trillion
1988 Debt / GNP 0.51
2003 National Debt 6.8 Trillion
2003 Gross Domestic Product 11.0 Trillion
2003 Debt / GNP 0.62
From 1933 to 1945, debt increased by 1049.5%
From 1983 to 1989 debt increased by 179%
From 2001 to 2003 debt increased by 16%
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Funked1 don't we Euro's owe most of the debt to you guys for lending uys tanks planes and bombs? lol
Why don't we just Cancel all debts?
Africa etc would be chuffed and my credit balance would look a lot healthier
;)
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Very well put Naso and GS.
And if bush decides to launch yet another war against someone?
dont worry he will find some 3rd world country with even smaller army that Iraq had :D
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Originally posted by lada
dont worry he will find some 3rd world country with even smaller army that Iraq had :D
He will have too.. the US military is overstreched as it is with invading a country that is welcomming it with open arms.
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Originally posted by Scootter
What say you?
oh ya sorry about the Kerry thing, but crap happens don't cha know!:D
What say we?
Well i speak for the whole of Sweden when i say this :
We surrender, send your troops we are ready to give up our arms and surrender to America.
:aok
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Decline Under Bush
Decline Under Bush
The dollar is weakening as the U.S. current account deficit widens, economists pare forecasts for U.S. economic growth and foreign demand for U.S. assets wanes. The currency has shed 21 percent since President George W. Bush, who won a second term on Nov. 2, took office in 2001.
Slowing purchases by foreigners of U.S. securities fueled speculation the economy won't be able to attract enough capital to compensate for a record current-account deficit and maintain the dollar's value, said Aziz McMahon, a currency strategist at ABN Amro Holding NV in London.
``The dollar's decline is really not a function of relative growth,'' said Michael Rosenberg, senior strategist and managing director in New York at Harbert Management Corp., an investment firm with about $5 billion in assets. ``It's really a function of the current account deficit,'' and strong U.S. growth may actually hurt the dollar by inflating that deficit, he said.
But what those n00bs actually know; some firm "Bloomberg"? wtf is that?
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=71000001&refer=germany&sid=a3MzMtdGq7Us
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Originally posted by Maniac
What say we?
Well i speak for the whole of Sweden when i say this :
We surrender, send your troops we are ready to give up our arms and surrender to America.
:aok
On behalf of Amreeka, I accept your surrender, and order you to continue as before. We will be over to take your arms after we are done with the desert people.
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Originally posted by Staga
But what those n00bs actually know; some firm "Bloomberg"? wtf is that?
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=71000001&refer=germany&sid=a3MzMtdGq7Us
Staga, current account deficit is a trade measure, not related to budget deficit.
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Oh? Well guess everything is okay then :)
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Been in the army and going back for another 1,5 years then i guess?
No limitations here either, so it must be some US propaganda that they are feeding you cause no "euros" have any idea what you are on about when americans start chanting about that "freedom" that you are supposed to have a monoply on.
Rock on ! :D
Just in response of that^^ for moot. I've known him in here for about three years, he's been studying in college in the western part of the US.
No"euros" know what he's talking about because they haven't spent the time that he has over here.
Me and moot don't agree on everything, but you might want to listen to his experiences over here.