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Title: 30mm vs car
Post by: Devourer on November 05, 2004, 09:35:06 PM
It was on an episode of monster garage. Repost or not, this video is worth a look:

http://www.streetneeds.com/uploads/videocars/vid_00115.wmv
Title: 30mm vs car
Post by: hawker238 on November 05, 2004, 09:43:18 PM
That's 30cal.  Big difference.
Title: 30mm vs car
Post by: J_A_B on November 06, 2004, 09:33:57 AM
Cars don't stand up to bullets well at all.  That minigun is absolute overkill.  An AK-47 is enough to pretty much shred a car.  Even pistol bullets will pierce almost eveythig except the wheels and block.  In other words if you hide behind the door like they do on TV, you die.  

J_A_B
Title: 30mm vs car
Post by: AKIron on November 06, 2004, 09:38:14 AM
At 3000 rounds per minute it's hardly the "fastest gun in the world", still, cool video.
Title: 30mm vs car
Post by: lazs2 on November 06, 2004, 09:40:51 AM
actually... pistols are somewhat ineffective against cars unless they hit glass and bodies at 90 degree angles... if a 40 caliber (pretty much standard police) or 45 hits a brace in the car it will not penetrate,  cops were way better off in my opinion with .357 and 44 revolvers but... little people and women can't typicaly handle em.

bout 50-50 chance that 40's will penetrate through more than the door skin.   Have seen em glance off really raked windshields or back windows or be deflected badly.     Buckshot mostlyu just dents things up... shyotgun slugs will penetrate about like pistol rounds.

need 223 or other medium power rifle rounds to be sure.

lazs
Title: Slaps head
Post by: Blue2 on November 06, 2004, 09:46:14 AM
What the hell is the point of that? Its just plain daft and a tad scary. Gun Love!? No thanks!
Title: 30mm vs car
Post by: moot on November 06, 2004, 09:48:38 AM
you ride a motorcycle?
Title: 30mm vs car
Post by: lazs2 on November 06, 2004, 09:52:26 AM
well... that was far from a moot point eh?

What is the point of anything blue?   why even get out of bed in the morning... we will just have to pay taxes and die anyway...

lazs
Title: 30mm vs car
Post by: J_A_B on November 06, 2004, 09:54:14 AM
Tue, pistols don't always penetrate...but they will go through often enough that I wouldn't want to stake my life on it.  

I have a .45 USP.  I'd carry a .357 except a lot of departments frown on revolvers.  They feel that 6 shots simply isn't enough (your theory on it is probably closer to the actual truth than their fishy-sounding excuse, especially since all qualification here is done with groups of 6 rounds or less).   My own opinion is that if you can't hit with 6, you'll miss with 12.


J_A_B
Title: 30mm vs car
Post by: Russian on November 06, 2004, 10:07:57 AM
Seems like they had something extra in car just for show.
Title: 30mm vs car
Post by: Blue2 on November 06, 2004, 10:08:46 AM
Moot

Yes A triumph.

The pic was my old speed triple

Now I have a daytona 1200

New thread for this one I think.
Title: 30mm vs car
Post by: DREDIOCK on November 06, 2004, 10:13:46 AM
great vid but they ruined it with the music.
Wasnt needed.
A Gun like that makes great music all on its own
Title: 30mm vs car
Post by: lazs2 on November 06, 2004, 10:14:43 AM
jab... that is not the entire reason (the one about small people)... it simply took more effort to learn to use a powerful revolver...

another thing was the habit of officers cocking the hammer to prove they were "serious"...  most gunfights in the revolver days lasted 1.7 rounds.... now it is up to about 7  the fights haven't but the tools have.    You can get 8 shot 357's and you can get full moon clips that make loading (with practice) a revolver faster than a semi.... a revolver will shoot faster than a semi auto too.  

toward the end of the revolver reign..  there were special converted S&W's that were double action only.... they were even harder to learn to shoot well..  revolvers are more accurate but much more difficult to learn to use effectively

lazs
Title: 30mm vs car
Post by: john9001 on November 06, 2004, 10:34:19 AM
Quote
Originally posted by J_A_B
 
   My own opinion is that if you can't hit with 6, you'll miss with 12.
J_A_B


ain't that the truth.
Title: Re: Slaps head
Post by: Gunslinger on November 06, 2004, 11:12:28 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Blue2
What the hell is the point of that? Its just plain daft and a tad scary. Gun Love!? No thanks!


Blue it's just a TV show.  Not sure if you get it were you live but it was all in fun.  

The car in the show was a failure in a contest.  Every car that's failed get's destroyed in some kind of extreme way.
Title: 30mm vs car
Post by: Mak333 on November 06, 2004, 11:15:33 AM
Hmm.. I'm getting like a billion lines worth of code in that link..no video?
Title: 30mm vs car
Post by: NUKE on November 06, 2004, 12:10:57 PM
My dad could rebuild it. He's got an excelent set of tools.
Title: 30mm vs car
Post by: Scootter on November 06, 2004, 03:15:51 PM
A bit heavy on the Pyro stuff added I think

I use Dillon stuff to reload, Its good equ.

http://dillonprecision.com/default.cfm?dyn=1&

FireStorm in the Desert is a great Video

http://dillonprecision.com/template/p.cfm?maj=33&min=0&dyn=1&


Its about the Gun you just enjoyed above
Title: 30mm vs car
Post by: JBA on November 06, 2004, 09:52:34 PM
Why is there a black SUV with a Vulcan mounted through the roof? :rolleyes: