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Title: Friday Night Logs
Post by: o0Stream140o on November 06, 2004, 01:21:01 PM
I don't know who I talk to about this but it is the first time it's happened to me...  I wasn't awarded a kill... that I know I got...
It's just for my peice of mind..

I have the flight film too...

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/269_1099767893_killshot1.png)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/269_1099767919_killshot2.png)

I am just bringing it to someones attention, it might be happening to other people...

Stream14
Commanding Officer
325th VFG
Title: Friday Night Logs
Post by: daddog on November 06, 2004, 02:27:53 PM
Did you see him crash?

Could be he ditched it even with the wing tip missing. Let me check the raw logs.
Title: Friday Night Logs
Post by: daddog on November 06, 2004, 02:45:40 PM
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11-05-04 23:15:09 Stream14 Bad Guy Damage Stega 3 325th VFG "Checkertail Clan"
11-05-04 23:15:09 Stream14 Bad Guy Damage Stega 1 325th VFG "Checkertail Clan"
11-05-04 23:15:09 Stream14 Bad Guy Damage Stega 1 325th VFG "Checkertail Clan"
11-05-04 23:15:50 Stream14 Bad Guy Damage Stega 1 325th VFG "Checkertail Clan"
11-05-04 23:15:50 Stream14 Bad Guy Damage Stega 2 325th VFG "Checkertail Clan"
11-05-04 23:16:07 Stream14 Bad Guy Damage Stega 1 325th VFG "Checkertail Clan"
11-05-04 23:16:09 Stream14 Bad Guy Damage Stega 1 325th VFG "Checkertail Clan"
11-05-04 23:16:28 Stream14 Bad Guy Damage Stega 2 325th VFG "Checkertail Clan"
11-05-04 23:16:29 Stream14 Bad Guy Damage Stega 1 325th VFG "Checkertail Clan"
11-05-04 23:16:29 Stream14 Bad Guy Damage Stega 1 325th VFG "Checkertail Clan"
11-05-04 23:16:29 Stream14 Bad Guy Damage Stega 1 325th VFG "Checkertail Clan"


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11-05-04 22:34:19 Stega Start Flight 9 Ki-84-Ia The DAMNED SE
11-05-04 23:18:16 Stega End Flight Crashed  The DAMNED SE


I will guess he managed to stay up (about 1 1/2 min) and and crashed a ways away from you. Could since the raw logs do not count it as a kill, the CM logs would not either.

I suppose in "real life" it would have been a "probable". :)

Title: Friday Night Logs
Post by: o0Stream140o on November 06, 2004, 03:03:42 PM
I do show him crashing later.... when he extented... I got in his plane and flew with him in the film viewer.  
 So what your saying is if he doesn't go down in like a minute after you do damage to him, it doesn't count as a kill? Don't get me wrong, I am just trying to understand this, not trying to throw a wrench into the works...This just might influence my flying a little bit...

Stream
Title: Friday Night Logs
Post by: Swager on November 06, 2004, 04:39:07 PM
Last night I ripped up a  B26!  When I left he seemed to had no control surfaces and both engines smoking.  I got no kill.

But its OK, for I know I killed most of the crew!!!  Let the bomber fly back to its base and let other see the death and carnage!!

:)
Title: Friday Night Logs
Post by: ghostdancer on November 06, 2004, 04:44:13 PM
I just went and looked at the CM logs.

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11-05-04 23:16:29 Stream14 Bad Guy Damage Stega 1 325th VFG "Checkertail Clan"
11-05-04 23:17:18   DmdGibs   Kill Awarded Stream14 F6F-5 The DAMNED SE
11-05-04 23:18:16   Stega End Flight Crashed The DAMNED SE
11-05-04 23:18:58   Stream14   End Flight   Bailed 325th FG "Checkertail Clan"


What looks like happened is this.

You and Stega tangled and you shot of a good chunk of his wing at 23:16:19 (last recorded damage in logs). He started going down but was able to hold it and control it for almost 2 minutes (crashes 23:18:16).

However, you then got jumped by another Ki84 and got shot up so badly you bailed from your dying plane (DmbGibs Kill Awarded at 23:17:18).

Now note that the logs don't record when you bail but the fact when you recieve your bail successfully message from the server. Meaning when you touch down on the ground and exit. However, since you took battle damage as soon as your started your bail the server sent a kill message and credited DmbGibs.

So what seems to me happened is that you initiated your bail before Stega crashed. Since you were out of your plane and a kill was credited to DmbGibs .. the server did not credit you with the kill for Stega's crash and registered Stega as a crash and not kill rewarded.
Title: Friday Night Logs
Post by: ghostdancer on November 06, 2004, 04:51:00 PM
Swager in your case basically you got your kill taken by another:

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11-05-04 22:51:19   SunKing   Kill Awarded   mock   B-26B   332nd Flying Mongrels
11-05-04 22:51:19   Vlkyrie1   Assist Awarded   mock   SunKing   ~USMC~
11-05-04 22:51:49   BUBBI   Kill Awarded   mock   B-26B   Arabian Knights
11-05-04 22:51:49   Swager   Assist Awarded   mock   BUBBI   332nd Flying Mongrels
11-05-04 22:51:49   Vlkyrie1   Assist Awarded   mock   BUBBI   ~USMC~


Seems you and Vlkyrie ripped up one of Mocks B26s and then Bubbi put enough lead into it to get credited with a kill while you guys got assist credits.

Mock lost 2 B26s to enemy fire; Mock made it home and landed the 3rd B26.
Title: Friday Night Logs
Post by: o0Stream140o on November 06, 2004, 06:26:08 PM
Sorry guys... Just didn't really understand what happened... just wanted to figure it out...  Thanks Ghostdancer and Daddog
Title: Friday Night Logs
Post by: Swager on November 06, 2004, 09:37:22 PM
Thanks GD!  No big deal!  As long as the bastiage went down!!

:)
Title: Friday Night Logs
Post by: ghostdancer on November 06, 2004, 09:43:28 PM
Nothing to be sorry about Stream. It was a valid question and until I went and dug into the CM logs didn't find the answer. All came down to about 30 secs of action.

Was interesting to see the time marks and too see how fast fighting happens.