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Title: Cancer
Post by: TBolt A-10 on November 07, 2004, 12:06:26 AM
I was so disappointed after hearing Cobra412 & Morpheus talk on Channel 200 about the Edwards' announcement of breast cancer, I simply HAD to log off this evening.  These two people actually had the nerve to imply that the cancer was a ploy to make-up for a failed political matter.  

I think most of us know that cancer - in many of its forms - is a very serious illness.  Cancer can be a very painful way to die.  Cancer is NOT a political action.  

I've been a casual fan of Channel 200 (I'm usually tuned to it) in order to hear what the community is talking about.  But, we - as a community - really could do a better job of enforcing certain social checks & balances on Channel 200 in order to keep the damn channel respectable.

After receiving support from others that were on the Channel, I asked Cobra & Morpheus for an apology & a change of subject.
Morpheus told me to "suck a d!ck."  Very classy, Morpheus.  :rolleyes:   You're a PERFECT example of what is going WRONG with this community.  

And, Cobra...man, I've had a great deal of respect for you because of your skins & our past duels.  But, tonight... :(

Please, people...think about what you're saying on a GAME CHANNEL before you type, huh?!?   :)
Title: Cancer
Post by: Fruda on November 07, 2004, 12:18:51 AM
See, this is what I'm talking about. Some people just don't have the balls to be nice.
Title: Cancer
Post by: Octavius on November 07, 2004, 12:26:10 AM
Regardless of the content, I dont think channel 200 needs to be regulated.  As far as I'm concerned, 200 is just another numbered 'private' channel (just a different color)... meaning it's not mandatory - no on is forced to listen to 200 - if you want to participate, you voluntarily tune to this channel.  Thats the risk you take.

IMO logging was a tad dramatic.  Tune somewhere else :)
Title: Cancer
Post by: streetstang on November 07, 2004, 01:02:51 AM
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Morpheus told me to "suck a d!ck." Very classy, Morpheus.  You're a PERFECT example of what is going WRONG with this community.


Yup I did and I'd tell you the same thing again if you told me to appoligize for a conversation I didnt start nor had anything to do with.

I simply said that you were misunderstanding what exactly cobra was saying. You interpreted that as me going along with something he was saying. I knew what Cobra was saying and I knew what you were saying. Your one track mind wouldnt allow you to grasp the indeapth concept of not taking sides in a conversation.

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These two people actually had the nerve to imply that the cancer was a ploy to make-up for a failed political matter.


THESE TWO PEOPLE?

Comon terdbolt. I never agreed with anything anyone was saying. Not you nor cobra. And cobra wasnt making light of the topic of cancer either. You brought me into the whole damn thing when I tried to tell you that Cobra wasnt joking around about Cancer in particular. Infact he wasnt joking around about anything. You made that insinuation and stuck to it. For that you were wrong. And I told you so. You didnt like to be told you were wrong when you were. So you go and attempt to turn your childish bullchit towards me. The simple fact that I knew what cobra was saying and you didnt doesnt mean I was agreeing with him. And it doesnt mean I was saying he was right for speaking of what he was. I dont know how that can be so difficult for  you to grasp.

What? you want me to appligize for the suk it part? not going to happen. I dont know who you think you are. But your not going to start telling me what you think I should do.

This Im tellilng daddy bullchit on the BB is more childish than the punk display of BS you orchestrated on line tonight. You talk about respect when you have none for yourself. If you did you would have handled yourself much differently tonight. Rather you looked like a complete idiot crying and whining about something you had no idea of. And im not talking about cancer itself.  

You come in mid conversation and attempt to moderate? Screw off.

You turn some thing one person said that meant nothing and turn it into some massive one line dispute. Or atleast attempted to. And didnt like that fact that I told you to go screw. Like I said, I'll tell you the same thing again if you try and pull your moderator crap with me.
Title: Cancer
Post by: Rafe35 on November 07, 2004, 01:26:58 AM
My mother has breast cancer in 1996........she nearly died during the sugery, but she lucky to be alive and still healthy now.

But she fear to have another one because you can get another cancer.....that would be suck.
Title: Cancer
Post by: Tarmac on November 07, 2004, 02:22:58 AM
PURSE FIGHT!!!  WATCH OUT FOR THE WINDMILL SLAPS!!!
Title: Cancer
Post by: TBolt A-10 on November 07, 2004, 02:39:58 AM
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Originally posted by streetstang



You come in mid conversation and attempt to moderate? Screw off.

You turn some thing one person said that meant nothing and turn it into some massive one line dispute. Or atleast attempted to. And didnt like that fact that I told you to go screw. Like I said, I'll tell you the same thing again if you try and pull your moderator crap with me.


I saw exactly what was meant, Morpheus.

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/77_1099816227_cancer_crop2.jpg)

Spin it however you want.  

If I brought you into this, it's because your "suck a d!ck" comment was a great example of the low-class comments that cheapen the community...one word at a time.  Besides, your reputation preceeded you.  :rolleyes:
Title: Cancer
Post by: Cobra412 on November 07, 2004, 03:56:26 AM
TBolt you can be pissed all you want.  Frankly in my opinion whether you like it or not.  I'm sick of hearing about all these big shots and their problems when their are so many just like them.  Yeah it did seem rather ironic that right after they lose this comes out.  

Simple fact is Mrs. Edwards is no different than any other person who has been diagnosed with this disease.  Why is it just because they are well known that it's "breaking news" when they develope cancer?  What about all the children out their stricken with the same disease?  What about the regular folks like you and I that may have this disease?  

It'd be nice if just once this country would spend the time and money on what it really needs to and not spreading the gossip about some celebrity.  Just how much money and time was spent on making all these news casts about her problems?  I guess in some peoples minds they'd rather hear about the problem than actually do something to help the problem.  Spend the money on the news about it instead of spend it on an agency that's trying to cure it.  

I won't lie it does seem rather suspicious that right after the election this comes out.  In no way shape or form was I making a joke about cancer though.  My grandfather died because of it and I probably will too.  It's pathetic that we as a society make such a big deal about celebrities and their problems instead of spending that same time and effort to help others especially when it comes to diseases like this.  Frankly I could give a crap about her being diagnosed with cancer when we all know their are millions out their diagnosed with the same thing.  Just because she's a celebrity though it's "breaking news".  She must mean more to our nation than those 3 and 4 year old children dying from the same thing.    

Guess that shows what alot of the people in our society really gives a watermelon about.
Title: Cancer
Post by: TBolt A-10 on November 07, 2004, 04:20:08 AM
Cobra,
I completely understand what you're trying to say here.  I do.  I'm not one to make a big deal about celebrities, either.  Just ask my friends.

Bottom line, though, is that WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CANCER here!  I've lost 3 family members to it!!!  And, I log into AH and hear how cancer is used as a "sob story" ploy to make up for a political matter?!?  Very offensive & way out of line.

The woman has breast cancer.  It's a painful, often deadly, disease.  No politics involved.  :rolleyes:

My point in posting this thread was to stress that people would do well to really think twice before saying something on an open channel - a GAME CHANNEL of all things.  And, comments like Morpheus' are best left in the boy's high school locker room, too.
Title: Cancer
Post by: ET on November 07, 2004, 05:01:44 AM
Maybe the cancer was covered up before the election so they would not be accused of using it to garner votes.
As the wife of a VP candidate her problem would be of interest to at least 53 million people.
It is a sad situation no matter who or what age person it affects.

I am a Bush voter.
Title: Cancer
Post by: hogenbor on November 07, 2004, 05:22:18 AM
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Originally posted by ET
Maybe the cancer was covered up before the election so they would not be accused of using it to garner votes.
As the wife of a VP candidate her problem would be of interest to at least 53 million people.
It is a sad situation no matter who or what age person it affects.

I am a Bush voter.


Quite well said... for a Bush voter ;)

As a matter of fact I myself had cancer when I was seventeen (33 now). They had to take away one my testicles. No that's not funny, it's really true. Also lost an aunt to leukaemia the same week I heard I had cancer.

I am sterile because of radiation therapy and my guts still don't work that well because of it.

Let's say that what I've heard so far does not really amuse me. If you are going to have NO respect for people with this disease, no matter how much you dislike them or their political ideas, please do it somewhere else.
Title: Cancer
Post by: bj229r on November 07, 2004, 06:08:03 AM
Bet every medical center in the Carolinas is just chompin at the bit to help the trial lawyer who is a major reason for their debt problems;
Title: Re: Cancer
Post by: Jackal1 on November 07, 2004, 06:51:04 AM
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Originally posted by TBolt A-10
Morpheus told me to "suck a d!ck."  Very classy, Morpheus.   [/B]


Translation: Someone recently totaly SMOKED Morph`s little snotrod in a bright pink Hyundai in front of the prom queen. :D

  BTW gentlemen , stand against the wall and prepare for lockdown.

  Channel 200 is an option you can choose to participate in or not, but IMHO  the game would be pretty boring without being tuned in. Guys just need to keep in mind that not all of us are old salts. There is quite a few, ......... no a lot of younguns in the game now. Act accordingly.
  The complaint should have been sent to HT. Were just adding fuel to the fire here. Myself included.
  A lot of what has been on channel 200 in the last few weeks would be better served in the O`club and left out of the game.
Title: 3 SIMPLE NO TALK SUBJECTS
Post by: Blixen on November 07, 2004, 07:30:48 AM
the 3 i never talk about are:
1 race
2 religion
3 politics
although i have my views i respect that others have different 1`s
in fact i come here to escape that shiz and if i hear it i
simply ask for subject to be dropped and 9 outa 10 times fellow players respect it.although most of us live in U.S. just be glad u can have ur own views.sorry for ur discomfort t-bolt
Title: Cancer
Post by: streetstang on November 07, 2004, 09:38:15 AM
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If I brought you into this, it's because your "suck a d!ck" comment was a great example of the low-class


If when you say, "in to this" you mean this forum then fine. I can understand your running to daddy.

If when you say, "in to this" you mean last night on line, and the conflict you had. That was the last thing I said to you and you said to me. And if it makes you feel any better I was told, "Morph language Please" by the mod. Understandable...

You on the other hand are just a whinning bellybutton little baby.

I wont even begin to go through the list of family members I have that have either died of cancer or most likely will die. Why? Because I dont need anyones sympathy on this board. Not saying the fact that you do is bad, but thats not how I get by. I am very simpathetic to the subject and wasnt making "light" of the topic last night either. If you think so, well you know what you can do.

As far as my reputation. LOL Please if this was a popularity contest, I wouldnt have stayed past my free two weeks. Like it or not, I was right in saying what I said to you about what Cobra was trying to say. Like it or not I wasn't taking sides with you or Cobra. And like it or not I'd tell you to go suck it again if you told me to appoligize for something I had nothing to do with and never started in the first place.

EDIT: And btw, T... Your just as wrong right now for bringing this issue to a public forum. But I guess in a way I'm glad you did. You need to be told where to go and how. Not for the way you fly or play but for the way you acted last night.
Title: Cancer
Post by: daddog on November 07, 2004, 09:58:46 AM
That is a tough call.

As we all get older more and more cancer touches our lives. Even within our AH community I know of at least 3 that are personally struggling with cancer. Having lost my best friend to cancer and others I can relate to the loss and its ugliness.

Looking at the text buffer I can see why Tbolt posted about it, yet Cobra did not obviously intend for people to take it the way they did.

Cancer should never be spoken of lightly or in a way that would allow others to interpret you are making light of it. Too many in our community have been scarred by it.

My two cents.
Title: Cancer
Post by: mechanic on November 07, 2004, 10:02:09 AM
i dont like morpheus, he is rude and unreasonable.
Title: Cancer
Post by: streetstang on November 07, 2004, 10:40:48 AM
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Originally posted by mechanic
i dont like morpheus, he is rude and unreasonable.


I dont reason with stupidity such as yours. Sorry. :)
Title: Cancer
Post by: BlueJ1 on November 07, 2004, 11:12:13 AM
WTG VNE, good to see a few P38 pilots around.
Title: Cancer
Post by: airbumba on November 07, 2004, 11:15:12 AM
What you expect from kids TBolt, they haven't seen enough in life yet to have respect for others problems, I figure empathy only forms after enough personal turmoil....
Title: Cancer
Post by: beet1e on November 07, 2004, 12:03:42 PM
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Originally posted by airbumba
What you expect from kids TBolt, they haven't seen enough in life yet to have respect for others problems, I figure empathy only forms after enough personal turmoil....
Morpheus is just a spoilt brat, whose momma adores him and gives him too much money. He never mentioned his father, so I don't know if he knows who his father is. (?)
Title: Cancer
Post by: RELIC on November 07, 2004, 12:05:07 PM
Allowing yourself to get pulled into any type of "discourse" with people like that is a complete waste of time.  
If you are a Far Side fan, blah blah blah Ginger, blah blah blah...

My advice for you is in the future:

1.    .squelch (player name)
2.    send film to HiTech
3.    keep it off the bbs

I think you will find this strategy will waste less of your personal time and is infinitely less frustrating.
Title: Cancer
Post by: streetstang on November 07, 2004, 12:06:37 PM
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Originally posted by beet1e
Morpheus is just a spoilt brat, whose momma adores him and gives him too much money. He never mentioned his father, so I don't know if he knows who his father is. (?)


The words of an ignorant brit.
Title: Cancer
Post by: WMLute on November 07, 2004, 12:27:48 PM
couple points to make here.

1.  This should never have gone to the bbs.  That in and of itself is uncalled for.  BECAUSE you took it to the bbs, don't expect anything to "happen" from this issue.

2.  Morp. was quite over the "line" with his comments.  NOTHING justifies what he said.  Was crude, crass, rude AND a violation of AH's TOS.  If you can't follow the rules, don't fly, or expect not to be allowed to fly.

My father has cancer, as does my sister.  I too think that it's a "touchy" subject.  I also can see how Mrs. Edwards is "fair game" due to her husband being in the "spotlight" recently.
Title: Cancer
Post by: Elfie on November 07, 2004, 12:35:15 PM
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I won't lie it does seem rather suspicious that right after the election this comes out.



Cobra, the Edwards' didnt want this information to come out before the election was done. The actual test to see if the lump in her breast was cancerous wasnt done until after the Kerry/Edwards team conceded defeat. Immediately after they conceded defeat Mrs Edwards was flown to a specialist and a biopsy was done and came back positive.


There was a thread on this in the O'Club with a link to a news article.
Title: Cancer
Post by: streetstang on November 07, 2004, 01:08:35 PM
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2. Morp. was quite over the "line" with his comments. NOTHING justifies what he said. Was crude, crass, rude AND a violation of AH's TOS. If you can't follow the rules, don't fly, or expect not to be allowed to fly.


Bring me into, and hold me responsible for a conversation I never started and then try and tell me I'm making light of a topic such as cancer, and I'll tell you to go do the same thing Lute.

Understanding what a person is saying and agreeing with that person are two completely different issues.

I'm sorry if you can't understand that.

If you can't, you know what I'm going to tell you.
Title: Cancer
Post by: TBolt A-10 on November 07, 2004, 01:28:52 PM
Well, re: posting this on the BBS...
I believe an issue like this can be discussed maturely between community members, and; thus far, it has been a civil conversation.  I appreciate Cobra stepping in with his explanation.  I consider the issue resolved, now.

I can only hope that we'll all be just a little more selective about comments we make on an open channel.  

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Morpheus,
I'm sorry to have accused you for the cancer discussion in my original post.  I'll give you this...you're right.  You're not responsible for the cancer comments on Ch. 200.

Your violation, however, was in responding with the "suck a d!ck" comment.  You're a repeat offender.  And, you deserve to be reprimanded & permanently squelched.

-------

I wonder if I can make a macro to /.squelch Morpheus...hmm.
Title: Cancer
Post by: WMLute on November 07, 2004, 01:33:06 PM
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Originally posted by streetstang
Bring me into, and hold me responsible for a conversation I never started and then try and tell me I'm making light of a topic such as cancer, and I'll tell you to go do the same thing Lute.

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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Abusive behavior/language does not belong in the game. There is no justification for it.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Squelching an abusive player is a bandaid for the real problem. The abusive player is the problem. And we have an answer for that. Mute, eject, and ban if necessary.

No one should have to listen to it and it is unfair to use the "squelch them if you don't like it" answer. See above.

By saying, "if you don't like it, squelch it", you are saying that it is ok for a player to be abusive. Point of fact, it is not ok.

It is about choices. If a player chooses to be abusive, then that player better be ready to handle the ramifications of that choice.
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Don't quite know what is so difficult for you to grasp here.  You do not say such things.  For any reason.  Period.  If you can't get your point accross w/o resorting to vulgarities then you need to just say nothign at all.  

Shoot me something like what you said, and i'll send it to HT.  Keep it up, and you can then work your way up the list.  Mute, eject, ban.
Title: Cancer
Post by: streetstang on November 07, 2004, 01:45:08 PM
Yep, your right Tbolt, I should have said something other than the suck it remark. And on the same token, you should have said something other than what you did.

Because you used poor judgment didnt give me the right to also use it.

Putting words in my mouth doesnt wash with me. I never let it slide before and wont in the future.

Because I may talk some smack on Chan 200 from time to time, you dont like it. Well, sorry for that not being my problem. And if your going to sit there and try and tell me I'm and the sole abuser on Chan 200. Well, get real.

The simple fact you, acting like a child mind you, brought this to the BB, furthers my point of you using poor judgment.

If you had any idea of how to handle this situation of yours, you would have sent a formal complaint to HTC and allowed them to handle it. Instead you wanted to be a hero. Like you wanted to be last night.
Title: Cancer
Post by: BlueJ1 on November 07, 2004, 01:51:47 PM
Aside from this debate, ch.200 is something you tune to on your own free will, and if you do not like a cetian conversation just turn it off.
              Wait about 5 minutes then return to it. The people on channel 200 are like children in a candy store, including myself, they see one thing then rampage off for it, then another object catches their eye and they go after that. No conversation last very long. And this channel does include people from all parts of the world, different religions, cultures and ideas, you cant expect someone else to think exactly like you.
Title: Cancer
Post by: Blixen on November 07, 2004, 02:00:26 PM
my thoughts exactly blue
Title: Cancer
Post by: TBolt A-10 on November 07, 2004, 02:02:24 PM
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Originally posted by streetstang

If you had any idea of how to handle this situation of yours, you would have sent a formal complaint to HTC and allowed them to handle it. Instead you wanted to be a hero. Like you wanted to be last night.


Morph,
Your observations about me ("want to be a hero" and "lack of self-respect" earlier) are all wrong...believe me.  I was offended last night, & I spoke up.  There weren't any illusions of heroism involved.  :lol

Thank you for your participation in this thread, but you're starting to beat a dead horse.
Title: Cancer
Post by: -tronski- on November 07, 2004, 02:16:16 PM
Gee I wonder why channel 1 got the arse...

 Tronsky
Title: Cancer
Post by: streetstang on November 07, 2004, 02:20:49 PM
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Thank you for your participation in this thread, but you're starting to beat a dead horse.


You should have kept it in the barn.
Title: Cancer
Post by: streetstang on November 07, 2004, 02:30:39 PM
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Translation: Someone recently totaly SMOKED Morph`s little snotrod in a bright pink Hyundai in front of the prom queen.  


I dont know how I missed that. But it would NEVER happen!!!
Title: Cancer
Post by: Hornet on November 07, 2004, 02:32:32 PM
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Originally posted by -tronski-
Gee I wonder why channel 1 got the arse...

 Tronsky


what's funnier is that some names in this thread claimed that losing channel 1 would destroy the game, something about "community"...
Title: Cancer
Post by: 38ruk on November 07, 2004, 02:58:55 PM
turn the GD channel .....  how hard is that.   200 is an optional channel. And if you have a problem send it to Hitech instead of posting it here.  If you want to be a moderator contact HTC
Title: Cancer
Post by: rod367th on November 07, 2004, 04:42:05 PM
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Originally posted by TBolt A-10
Cobra,
I completely understand what you're trying to say here.  I do.  I'm not one to make a big deal about celebrities, either.  Just ask my friends.

Bottom line, though, is that WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CANCER here!  I've lost 3 family members to it!!!  And, I log into AH and hear how cancer is used as a "sob story" ploy to make up for a political matter?!?  Very offensive & way out of line.

The woman has breast cancer.  It's a painful, often deadly, disease.  No politics involved.  :rolleyes:

My point in posting this thread was to stress that people would do well to really think twice before saying something on an open channel - a GAME CHANNEL of all things.  And, comments like Morpheus' are best left in the boy's high school locker room, too.






Don't like whats being said on channel 200 TURN IT OFF is that to hard to grasp?


 Send screen shot to HTC not post part of conversation on bbs to try to show your point.    




    This is funny i've seen some of you that are accussing morh and corba of saying things that offend you or may offend others. Say things like Running grapefruit, lagay7, Bitach among other comments on 200.  But hey he said cancer only my feelings count.



 Beetle you wannker I'm Morpheus DADDY......................
Title: Cancer
Post by: airbumba on November 07, 2004, 05:12:20 PM
First let me say that anyone in the same squad as Exj, has to be a good person at heart or I doubt EXj would bother flyin with them.

That said, I almost lost my old man to throat cancer this summer and am also guilty of over reacting to anything cancer related. After dealing with that "c" crap, it's far too easy for me to take things outta context and jump the gun.

In a sense you guys are right, ch 200 is a channel u have to seek out and tune in, and not a channel that a new player would see and possibly quit the game due to stuff said on that channel. I just somehow wish that overall, there would be no need for lowbrow crap. A good smack talk about ACM and how u wooped soeone's prettythang is fine banter to me, but hurtfull trash talk on a wide scale , I feel is uncalled for in the world of aviation.

We are playing a game that keeps the actions of our aviation heroes alive, try and type stuff you'd feel comfortable with them reading.
Title: Cancer
Post by: Stang on November 07, 2004, 05:31:18 PM
Man, the flames and purses in this post are at an all time new low.  

You guys missed the best line in the picture posted:  Nomde-"chog punk"
Title: Cancer
Post by: humble on November 07, 2004, 05:36:58 PM
I think we often forget how real death is when playing a game like this, you simply dont get too "re-up" in life.

If you've ever had to look into the eyes of someone who's dieing and try and cram the next 30 or 40 yrs into a few brief words you'll never approach a topic like cancer again with this type of BS. Sometimes classy people make classless comments.

It's not my place to judge someone on this or any other singular event. However, to needlessly attack someone for a personal tragedy beacuse they are in"the spotlight" is a classless act...end of subject.

All of you who have walked in the shadow of death as a visitor have my condolences...
Title: Cancer
Post by: airbumba on November 07, 2004, 06:18:48 PM
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Originally posted by Stang
Man, the flames and purses in this post are at an all time new low.  

You guys missed the best line in the picture posted:  Nomde-"chog punk"


Let me see if I understand, are you saying that the folk here speaking out against the immoral use of someones life threatening cancer situation are flaming? Have I got that correct?
Title: Cancer
Post by: Stang on November 07, 2004, 06:56:53 PM
Notice I used plural, meaning on both sides.  Point is this never should have been brought up on the bb's.  But yes, this was started as a flamefest against Morph and Cobra.  Who's at fault? I don't care.
Title: Cancer
Post by: YUCCA on November 07, 2004, 06:59:47 PM
wondefull little option of .squelch  dont like it squelch em

why do i feel like i have to be captain obvious? oh wait nm .
Title: Cancer
Post by: TBolt A-10 on November 07, 2004, 07:02:02 PM
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Originally posted by Hornet
what's funnier is that some names in this thread claimed that losing channel 1 would destroy the game, something about "community"...


I was one of those people.  I said earlier that I am a fan of Ch. 200 despite its faults.  

Please note that NO ONE here is asking for the Channel to be closed or moderated.  It should be left to each community member to understand which subjects & comments are acceptable.  It's all a learning process.
Title: Cancer
Post by: TBolt A-10 on November 07, 2004, 07:04:42 PM
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Originally posted by Stang
But yes, this was started as a flamefest against Morph and Cobra.  


Not true.

If some others have turned it into that, I can't help that.
Title: Cancer
Post by: killnu on November 07, 2004, 07:28:09 PM
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wondefull little option of .squelch dont like it squelch em

Originally posted by Skuzzy
Abusive behavior/language does not belong in the game. There is no justification for it.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Squelching an abusive player is a bandaid for the real problem. The abusive player is the problem. And we have an answer for that. Mute, eject, and ban if necessary.

No one should have to listen to it and it is unfair to use the "squelch them if you don't like it" answer. See above.

By saying, "if you don't like it, squelch it", you are saying that it is ok for a player to be abusive. Point of fact, it is not ok.
Title: Cancer
Post by: Stang on November 07, 2004, 07:33:04 PM
lol Tbolt, what were we supposed to do after your inital post?  There was no choice but to flame morph and cobra or try to defend them.  Take care of these things personally, don't drag the whole community into it.
Title: Cancer
Post by: TBolt A-10 on November 07, 2004, 07:38:54 PM
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Originally posted by Stang
lol Tbolt, what were we supposed to do after your inital post?  There was no choice but to flame morph and cobra or try to defend them.  Take care of these things personally, don't drag the whole community into it.


If you've read the whole thread & not figured it out yet...nevermind.  

Title: Cancer
Post by: mechanic on November 07, 2004, 07:46:10 PM
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Originally posted by streetstang
I dont reason with stupidity such as yours. Sorry. :)

thing about you is, your like an attourney.

you wont ever take responsibility for your actions.


you wont let anyone get a word in.


you wont take anyone elses opinion over your own, no matter how meaningless.



you wont let anyone be better than you.



you will twist peoples words and turn them against the speaker.



some may call this a skill, I call it obnoxious 'head up arse' syndrome.


take yours out before you grow up and it stays there.

Like you, i was once a smart arse who could do no wrong.

s'pose i should let you learn the hard way like the rest of us...

whatever

bat
Title: Cancer
Post by: Gwjr2 on November 07, 2004, 07:50:24 PM
2 words O CLUB :rolleyes:
Title: Cancer
Post by: streetstang on November 07, 2004, 08:01:04 PM
Quote
Originally posted by mechanic
thing about you is, your like an attourney.

you wont ever take responsibility for your actions.


you wont let anyone get a word in.


you wont take anyone elses opinion over your own, no matter how meaningless.



you wont let anyone be better than you.



you will twist peoples words and turn them against the speaker.



some may call this a skill, I call it obnoxious 'head up arse' syndrome.


take yours out before you grow up and it stays there.

Like you, i was once a smart arse who could do no wrong.

s'pose i should let you learn the hard way like the rest of us...

whatever

bat


lol
I rest my case.

edit: you talk like you have years on me. LOL When in fact you spent over an hour in the DA several months back telling me your pathedic sob story of how unfortunate you are, how hard you've got it and how everyone should look up to you for the troubles you have. I know your story and i know your kind. So what comes from your mouth is nothing more than mixed static.  Meaningless really.
Title: Cancer
Post by: DipStick on November 07, 2004, 08:46:25 PM
BIG YAWN....

Wake me up when we get there. :cool:
Title: Cancer
Post by: blutic on November 07, 2004, 09:51:58 PM
I don't tune to channel 200.
After reading this post, I never will.
I play this game for fun. Not to make fun of
a lady with cancer. Put what ever spin you want to on it, but thats what it amounts to. :confused: :(
Title: Cancer
Post by: mechanic on November 07, 2004, 10:39:21 PM
Quote
Originally posted by streetstang
lol
I rest my case.

edit: you talk like you have years on me. LOL When in fact you spent over an hour in the DA several months back telling me your pathedic sob story of how unfortunate you are, how hard you've got it and how everyone should look up to you for the troubles you have. I know your story and i know your kind. So what comes from your mouth is nothing more than mixed static.  Meaningless really.


see, you're making crap up again.

i never gave you any sob story you moron. once again you embelish the facts to suit your needs.

If anyone ever looked up to me, I hope it wouldnt be because my life may have been less than simple.

all i seem to remember is you proved you could fly better than me.

that is all.

you think what i say is meaningless, fine, you'll feel it one day.

i act like i have years on you???  quite frankly i do.

you're just out of school yeah? on your first job?

cool.  

once you get through a few and start to know what real life is, then we may see eye to eye.

I have been working for a living for 6 1/2 years this christmas.

I will be 22 years old in january.

im not as ignorant as you think.

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All that was a reply to your crap. please do not quote that. it does not need your twisting powers exerted on it.



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quote and flame this please:


From when i met you Jeff, i have been polite and courteous to you. you have always come back at me with your seudo-intelectual school room banter.

It took a while, but i came to realise you dont care to make freinds or even be polite to your common man.

you never try to resolve nor accomplish with your words, you merely expect to make your words reflect on your persona in a (what you think to be) possitive manner.

I understand you. dont worry. Many of us have been there and still are there sometimes.

Nobody is perfect, least of all myself.

next time you reply to this or any thread, try and leave the matter closed, rather than prodding the wound more to see how much blood comes out.




Morpheus, i understand what you are saying, and you are entitled to your opinion, i simply disagree, infact if truth be known, i think your just wrong.


boredfink
Title: Cancer
Post by: Stang on November 07, 2004, 11:35:33 PM
Quote
Originally posted by DipStick
BIG YAWN....

Wake me up when we get there. :cool:


Heya Dip  :D
Title: Cancer
Post by: Swager on November 08, 2004, 07:31:45 AM
Reason number 8!
Title: Cancer
Post by: Schatzi on November 08, 2004, 08:16:37 AM
Im starting to think about selling virtual lukewarm mud for people to throw at each other...

I guess it would raise my funds immensly....
Title: Cancer
Post by: mechanic on November 08, 2004, 03:11:00 PM
ill take a bucket full please gal :lol
Title: Cancer
Post by: streetstang on November 08, 2004, 04:30:08 PM
LOL Batfink, im still waiting for you to tell me how large of a man you are and that your going to beat me up. hehehe. 8)


Love always...

morph. 8)

Edit:
Quote
It took a while, but i came to realise you dont care to make freinds or even be polite to your common man.


Spot on except for the last half.

I make friends when I make them. In this game, well, its a game bro. Get it? A game. Simply put, you, me and the rest of the peole who log on are really nothing but voices. Sure there are real people there behind the voices, but for the most part... They are just voices. You know, like the ones in your head? lol j/k. :) ANYWAYS...
From the real friends, the people who I call friends and they call me friend,whome I've both talked to often and met in person, they know who I am and what I'm about, I'm talking about those here on Aces High. If I dont like ya, better understand I'm going to tell you. I wont *****foot around about the fact. I do however give everyone a chance. As far as you and me are concerned, I neither like you or dislike you. Your just another player to me and thats that. No more no less. I'm more than sure  you dont give a rats bellybutton if I like you or not, I just thought I'd clear that up.
For some this is more than just a game. Its more than just a hobby. They take it futher. To me its just a game. One that I have alot of fun playing. I dont go about trying to insult every person I come into contact with, but if you are going to give it, expect to get it back. Simple as that.

I give back what is given to me and nothing less. I didnt get what I have now by being a nice guy and taking crap. I'm not going change that now even tho this IS just a game. Some people call that being an stunninghunk, I call it being fair.
Title: Hmm...Back on Topic
Post by: RedTop on November 08, 2004, 05:24:35 PM
As a person that deals with this Cancer thing on a daily basis, I'll simply say this.


If you haven't ever dealt with a woman that has had breast cancer , or has breast cancer , or is having a relasp ,  then may I suggest that you shouldn't even try to understand it or even give it a thought.

:(
Title: Cancer
Post by: SlapShot on November 08, 2004, 05:48:04 PM
From the real friends, the people who I call friends and they call me friend,whome I've both talked to often and met in person, they know who I am and what I'm about, I'm talking about those here on Aces High.

This thread really needs to stop ... its all wrong from many different angles.

I too am leary of those that I have not met in person. One of the main reasons that I attend the con.

I will say that I have had beers and broke bread (err ... wings) with Morph and consider him a friend ... an all-around nice guy. Take it for what its worth.
Title: Cancer
Post by: mechanic on November 08, 2004, 06:17:42 PM
Quote
Originally posted by streetstang
LOL Batfink, im still waiting for you to tell me how large of a man you are and that your going to beat me up. hehehe. 8)


Love always...

morph. 8)

Edit:
 

Spot on except for the last half.

I make friends when I make them. In this game, well, its a game bro. Get it? A game. Simply put, you, me and the rest of the peole who log on are really nothing but voices. Sure there are real people there behind the voices, but for the most part... They are just voices. You know, like the ones in your head? lol j/k. :) ANYWAYS...
From the real friends, the people who I call friends and they call me friend,whome I've both talked to often and met in person, they know who I am and what I'm about, I'm talking about those here on Aces High. If I dont like ya, better understand I'm going to tell you. I wont *****foot around about the fact. I do however give everyone a chance. As far as you and me are concerned, I neither like you or dislike you. Your just another player to me and thats that. No more no less. I'm more than sure  you dont give a rats bellybutton if I like you or not, I just thought I'd clear that up.
For some this is more than just a game. Its more than just a hobby. They take it futher. To me its just a game. One that I have alot of fun playing. I dont go about trying to insult every person I come into contact with, but if you are going to give it, expect to get it back. Simple as that.

I give back what is given to me and nothing less. I didnt get what I have now by being a nice guy and taking crap. I'm not going change that now even tho this IS just a game. Some people call that being an stunninghunk, I call it being fair.


ok, lets drop it.



the voices in my head are getting quieter these days

:lol
Title: Cancer
Post by: airbumba on November 08, 2004, 06:31:54 PM
....once I cut off all my ten fingers by accident. I went to the doctor, he says," why didn't you bring the fingers? with todays technology we could easily sew them back on".

I yelled back, " how was I supposed to pick them up a**hole"!!!.
Title: Cancer
Post by: Regular on November 08, 2004, 11:30:09 PM
LOL!

I was just diagnosed with cancer today right before I read this thread.

I guess they call that irony.


I am offended that a few like Cobra and Streetstang/Morpheus would use cancer for personal attack's of a rival political party loss in an election in an online video game chat buffer.:p
Title: Cancer
Post by: TBolt A-10 on November 09, 2004, 01:17:34 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Regular
LOL!

I was just diagnosed with cancer today right before I read this thread.

I guess they call that irony.


I am offended that a few like Cobra and Streetstang/Morpheus would use cancer for personal attack's of a rival political party loss in an election in an online video game chat buffer.:p


:eek: :o   O man, Regular...I'm sorry.  Mind if I ask what type of cancer?  What's the outlook for treatment?

Hang in there, sir.  

It deserves repeating that Morpheous wasn't responsible for the comments.  He was just a rude, poopy-mouth after the fact.  :lol  :rolleyes:
Title: Cancer
Post by: streetstang on November 09, 2004, 10:35:52 AM
I really hate the idea of posting on this thread again. Its a pointless thread and has done nothing to improve anything. With that being said here we go.

TBolt, I was wrong to have said what I said to you. I was being held responsible for a coversation and coments I didnt create or make. For that I reacted/over-reacted. I've got (for what its worth) alot of respect for you and what you do for AH. And this thread and the crap within it doesnt change that.

God it sucks to try and be nice.
Title: Cancer
Post by: airbumba on November 09, 2004, 02:00:00 PM
Sorry to hear that Regular, I hope it's one of the 'lesser of two evils', and good luck .
Title: Cancer
Post by: TBolt A-10 on November 09, 2004, 08:41:15 PM
Quote
Originally posted by streetstang
I really hate the idea of posting on this thread again. Its a pointless thread and has done nothing to improve anything. With that being said here we go.

TBolt, I was wrong to have said what I said to you. I was being held responsible for a coversation and coments I didnt create or make. For that I reacted/over-reacted. I've got (for what its worth) alot of respect for you and what you do for AH. And this thread and the crap within it doesnt change that.

God it sucks to try and be nice.


Likewise, Morpheous.  Thanks.  
:)
Title: Re: Cancer
Post by: sling322 on November 09, 2004, 10:08:41 PM
Quote
Originally posted by TBolt A-10

Please, people...think about what you're saying on a GAME CHANNEL before you type, huh?!?   :)



I think this one sentence sums up the whole incident and then some.  If this simple rule was followed by all we would still be using channel 1.
Title: Cancer
Post by: Herr Milde on November 10, 2004, 01:19:16 AM
Cobra and Morph,

It's easy to let comments slide in the heat of debate. I can see that you didn't mean to be insulting. Unfortunately it was construed that way.

I think that a simple apology would not be all so  bad, and you would certainly win my respect.

Ritter
Title: Cancer
Post by: Cobra412 on November 10, 2004, 02:38:39 AM
TBolt and others who were offended by my statements I'd like to apologize.  It gets very frustrating when people who are in the lime light are the one we as a society make such a big deal over.  My comment was more directed at the fact of who it was and not the fact she had cancer.  I don't mean due to her political affiliations either.  I mean that fact that just because she's in the big lights she gets headline news about her illness.  People are dying from cancer daily and how often do you see anything about them and the pain they have to endure?
Title: Cancer
Post by: streetstang on November 10, 2004, 06:47:23 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Herr Milde
Cobra and Morph,

It's easy to let comments slide in the heat of debate. I can see that you didn't mean to be insulting. Unfortunately it was construed that way.

I think that a simple apology would not be all so  bad, and you would certainly win my respect.

Ritter


Ritter,

If you really read through this thread not only would you know what was going on but you'd also know how I feel about that last word you wrote.

Instead,  my theory on how people only read the first post of any given thread and skip over the rest is getting more right with each new post. You couldnt even read the last couple posts.
Title: Cancer
Post by: Howitzer on November 10, 2004, 09:45:40 AM
Quote
Originally posted by streetstang
I really hate the idea of posting on this thread again. Its a pointless thread and has done nothing to improve anything. With that being said here we go.

TBolt, I was wrong to have said what I said to you. I was being held responsible for a coversation and coments I didnt create or make. For that I reacted/over-reacted. I've got (for what its worth) alot of respect for you and what you do for AH. And this thread and the crap within it doesnt change that.

God it sucks to try and be nice.



Could've sworn a guy with this same name said he wasn't going to post here anymore...  I really wish this tard would've read through the entire post before making another post that just beats the same dead horse around.....

:rofl

j/k Jeff  =)
Title: Cancer
Post by: TBolt A-10 on November 19, 2004, 09:38:14 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Cobra412
TBolt and others who were offended by my statements I'd like to apologize.  


Sorry to bring this thread out of the closet.  

I've been very busy lately, but I just wanted tell Cobra, "Thank you for the apology."  I didn't like what was said, but I never forgot that you're the Cobra that I respected tremendously.  
Title: Cancer
Post by: MOIL on November 20, 2004, 03:31:37 AM
Just stoppin in to say hey to a few friends.............and WOW,  looks like the same ol' fun day after day.
Just wish I could scrape up some loot to play, darn.

Enjoy