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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: whels on November 09, 2004, 01:10:29 PM
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HT,
last 2 days, the arena saw 2 players land huge # of kills in GVs.
yesterday it was M16 with 150 kills, just now 296 kills in a T34.
after checking scores, the 2 IDs make it so obivous they
are vulching both accounts to gain perks/score/rank in that
catagory. This is blatant cheating of other players
who play fair and earn thier kills.
Others who were in arena just now will post here to as witness to this today.
ill hold names till u get them and check them out. but score sheet tells all.
whels
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HTC please close 2nd accounts. This is only one of the ways they get abused. I know its more money in your pocket but it leaves the door open to abuse. I would think you would value a "fair fight" over money. just my 2 cents
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those that do this should be banned.
i noticed they log right after doing the dirty deed.
just my 2cent.. heck, make it 5cent.
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it's totally lame, but... it's also their money.
post the names... let the community deal with it.
and yanno, there's more than just 2 people who engage in this kind of weak behavior...
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geld them...hehe..
they are only cheating themselves, and to dumb to realise it..
let them do it...rank and score mean naught...RESPECT IS EVERYTHING..
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mixed feelings here. As a know score potato, it upsets me to see guys do this. I work hard to get a decent rank, and I am proud of it. If all you want to do is shoot at yourself like this, it should be done in the TA, or DA.
Other side of the coin, i'm quite aware of just how cheap it is, and I feel sorry for the guy/gal. Shooting your 2nd account like that over and over does nothing raise your skill level. It's done by skilless noobs, and perpetuates their noobness.
Also I don't think HT minds the xtra 14.95/month. $ is $ even if gained by some guy doing something soooooooo base and tacky.
(sidenote) I was perusing various player stats, and came across an interesting one. A guy had 261 kills in a pt boat, and 261 kills OF a pt boat, vs. only 9 deaths in a pt boat. THAT sounds a little gamey, or possibly exploiting a bug.
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Speaking of base and tacky...what about the guys who have nothing better to do than sit and read other people's stats looking for abnormal stuff? (and no - I only have one account!)
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get the torches!!!!
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The fix to this is in a Gameplay post about the ENY failure.
To sum it up, it says that when you are killed/shotdown, etc. you cannot spawn from the same base that you spawned from previously. Implementing this would prevent dweeboids from vultching their 2nd accounts over and over again.
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Originally posted by Midnight
The fix to this is in a Gameplay post about the ENY failure.
To sum it up, it says that when you are killed/shotdown, etc. you cannot spawn from the same base that you spawned from previously. Implementing this would prevent dweeboids from vultching their 2nd accounts over and over again.
gah... no...
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Originally posted by Shane
post the names... let the community deal with it.
i have already said my 5CENT worth.
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only accept USD, not CDN... so hit the exchange...
:D
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will you accept CENT2 or CENT5 instead?
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Originally posted by debuman
Speaking of base and tacky...what about the guys who have nothing better to do than sit and read other people's stats looking for abnormal stuff? (and no - I only have one account!)
i didnt go looking through stats, the same 2 did it 2 days in a row
so i went n looked @ thier stats to see if we where correct.
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Originally posted by WMLute
mixed feelings here.
How can u have mixed feelings over blatent gaming the gaming cheating?
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Break out the tomatos and start the pelting !
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gaming the game isn't "bannable", merely lame. exploiting bugs is, when done deliberately. it's still HTC's call.
now in terms of gaming the game, who's cheating who? there's no financial interests involved, only psychological ones. i think we can all agree rank is pretty meaningless and indicates very little about one's ability to "play" the game.
someone mentioned "respect" and even that is very subjective on both ends, giving and wanting.
dunno why whels is so bent about this, perhaps because he's ranked 3rd or 4th overall and wants to be the "top dog"
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Thats funny I was just talking with a pal of mine about him opening an account and use my machine when I'm not on. But how am i supposed to shoot his prettythang with one computer? I'd love to shoot him down, lol.
So they have two computers in the same place? or what stops them from just meeting online and allowing one to shoot the other one, is that what is done?
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come on, give me a name!
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I'm prolly the sorriest pilot out there, but I try to play with all fairness, assisting others when I can. My score's nothing to brag about, but my behavior in the arena, and how others perceive me: those things matter to me. These losers, if they are guilty, are just that: losers. I don't know if HTC can ban 'em, or even want to. But they'll become widely known and prolly shunned by most players.
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The real problem is in the rank system itself. Basically it's meaningless in its current form (and maybe any form). Any type of high rank is directly attributable to "gaming the game" in some way. Obviously this dweebery takes things to an even higher (or is it lower) level.
This isnt ment as an attack on whels or anyone else that is"rank oriented", it simply recognizes that they've had to tweak gameplay to "score.
As a small example I fly a Ki-61 (least this tour) as a primary fighter. If I log the hop as a fighter the 250k bombs do me no good...if I go as a jabo hop and need to engage they hurt my attack score.
Since we are on "score" I do have a question....lets say I'm 150-50 in my Ki-61 for the tour as a fighter. Is that score equal to someone who is 150-50 in an La-7?...guess I'm asking if ENY value effects "score"?
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Originally posted by humble
The real problem is in the rank system itself. Basically it's meaningless ...
WHEW!! Do I feel better!:D
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Originally posted by mechanic
come on, give me a name!
i only posted in here in the first place to hint who it was. With subsequent posts making it more and more obvious.
damn some people are dumb :p ;)
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Cents when did anyone care about padding their score with a second account?
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Cents now.
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oooooo... furby cent us a clue!! now it all makes cents and the cent isn't two appealing. furby sure had EAGLE eyes to spot this.
but like i said, it's more than just a few who engage in this form of behavior. some just take it to more extremes than others.
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lmfao..who cares...let them...
score potatos..just give it up...dotn worry about gamers gaming..what doe sit prove?...
funny as hell
btw..dont be ghey//put there names out
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Originally posted by BGBMAW
lmfao..who cares...let them...
btw..dont be ghey//put there names out
Lolol....see, you do to care!:p
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Originally posted by Shane
now it all makes cents and the cent isn't two appealing. furby sure had EAGLE eyes to spot this.
but weee need names!!! give us the names!!!! NAMES!
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Squad Name:
EAGLES (Bishops)
Squad CO:
talnz
Web Page:
http://groups.msn.com/eaglessquad
Members:
5
Arena:
Main
Roster:
Tex1
talnz
CENT5
9thID
Magiq
Current Tour:
Tour 58
Total squad kills:
425
Total squad deaths:
9
Kills/(Deaths + 1):
42.5
A squad where one member accounts for all 425 kills and 9 deaths. Maybe they should recruit CENT2 so they can double that.
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Heh, for all that "effort", he's not even ranked in the top 100. But I AM! and I wasn't even playing for a score. I think this is the first time I've ever been in the top 100 (tied for #95). Now, I know that's nothing to really brag about, I just think it's hillariously ironic. (or should I say "ironic and hillarious"?)
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Bring back individual kill messages! :lol
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Yeah I'm with everyone else here... I don't think this one is worth all the effort. This kid has got 422 kills total, 421 in a gv, and 1 in attack mode. His K/D in Gvs where he obviously plays with himself over and over is 210... In his only other score category which he has actually flown sorties (attack) he has 1 kill and 5 deaths. With a K/D of 210 he is still ranked 195 in GVs... he obviously isn't doing this for rank. Can't really talk to any of his squadmates about him, cus they haven't flown at all this tour. Safe to say I don't think anyone else is going to sign him.
One question though, he has no sorties in a fighter, but has a 15% hit percentage which ranks (0)? Never seen that before.
Edit: Sorry I've been here too long, he has 9 sorties in 6 minutes died 6 times and killed nothing. And his hit % is .158... which if I give him the benefit of the doubt and round up it is .2 =) But he did manage 419 points in fighters without a kill which is kinda cool. :aok
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I wana be parked beside him. Bet I can kill his other account befor he can change computers to kill it himself..
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well, he may not be ranked high, but what is with all the hype about being ranked in the top 5, 10, 20, 100? does HTC give ya'll a prize or sumthin?
example of how the rank/score system is flawed:
TC ( CT Arena ) for October
attack rank - #1
flew 2 flights for 50 mins 7 kills no deaths
eskimo ( CT Arena ) for October
attack rank - #1
flew 70 flights for 12 hrs 31 mins 109 kills 25 deaths
what is wrong with this picture?
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vulching both accounts to gain perks/score/rank
Well so much for "Operation Slash28" :(
DAMMIT!!!:mad:
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The only, and I do mean ONLY thing rank does is decide who can control the CV's. Except on "Gilligan Day", when scores are reset.
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Originally posted by Midnight
To sum it up, it says that when you are killed/shotdown, etc. you cannot spawn from the same base that you spawned from previously. Implementing this would prevent dweeboids from vultching their 2nd accounts over and over again.
Im the history of bad gameplay ideas, this ranks up near the top. There are just too many instances where this 'feature' would destroy gameplay, squadplay and cooperation. Please try again.
PS: Im sure HT is well aware of certain players who like to kill each other for points...I really dont give a crap:rolleyes:
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it is called profit and why would anyone wanna take it away?
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I'm the cheater...
I just wanted to be like Shane and Whelz...
unfortunatly I can't seem too get my head bloated so big like they do, so I will keep CHEATING...
you see this SKUZZ, I said I WAS CHEATING...:rofl
oh ya, Furballz de sukz
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I'm not sure if HiTech cares. Heck, I'm not sure if I even care. BUT...it does make for interesting chat on the message boards, or is it message boreds?
Anyway, instead of asking the folks at HTC to ban these people and take time away from game developement, let's just keep posting names on the BBs. It's not like the "XXXXXX landed 296 kills" announcement can't be read by all people online. That makes it pretty much public to whoever is online at the time. May as well let everyone know about what a great shot XXXXXX is!
From now on, just post their name, let people ridicule them a bit, and we can try and hunt their arses down in the MA :) .
just my 5cents,
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Hes giving himself perks in gv's so he can afford a couple Tigers....
Big deal.....
Letem play with there little gv's, how does this feature effect anyone?
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XrightyX makes it 12 cents, might have a whole $1 by the end of the night...
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It all comes down to whether how you 'rank' matters.
Personally it doesn't matter to me as long as I'm having fun at the game.
And it reminds me of old RAGS back in Airwarrior who wanted to be the "best' fighter pilot so he has a buddy up in a goon a zillion times while he vulched him in a 190.
He may have been on top of the scoreboard but within the community he was considered a fool. No doctoring of the numbers would ever change that.
Dan/Slack
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How can u feel a winner when u are cheating like that.
i mean what's the fun about getting a high score like that.
those guys only fooling themselfes
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AH2 Account 14.95
2nd AH2 account because u suk 14.95
Vulching your second account easy
Getting Caught Vulching your second account and showing everyone what a Dolt you are ...... Priceless :p
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LMFAO
What kinda dolt vulches his 2nd account and can only achieve a 10% HP? :rofl
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Anyone who wants to contribute an extra 14.95 per month, and provide us with the good entertainment that the resulting gossip provides, deserves such honorary rank!
RitteR
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most of the times i don't fly 25 milles to land is boring, better fight or vulch until my fuel tank is dry and ditch , crash, HO, dive on CVs in bombers and last week my rank was under 50!!!
The score sistem is soo fkt up in AH2, if i would have 10 vulch acounts i couldn't do better
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Originally posted by 1K0N
Hes giving himself perks in gv's so he can afford a couple Tigers....
Yup. Scores/rank means nothing, but they put himself above perk system at all.
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Originally posted by Furball
i only posted in here in the first place to hint who it was. With subsequent posts making it more and more obvious.
damn some people are dumb :p ;)
oh come on rhubarb, i couldnt be bothered to play score potato detective. its obvious to me now.
Its news to me there is even a player with this name.
I wasnt paying attention to all your CENT5 stuff, infact, i usualy ignore your posts and move on to the next one.
funniest thing is this guys only has a V-rank of about 950.
so whats the point in caring?
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If he's not even ranked high then why does it matter ? :confused:
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SYSTEM: ... killed blah bla bha...? Perk points?
If it was for score, landing the kills wouldn't really be needed...
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296 kills in pnzr buys a whole lot of Tiger tanks...:rolleyes:
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I believe the trick is used to gain perks for Tigers.
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Originally posted by 1K0N
Hes giving himself perks in gv's so he can afford a couple Tigers....
Big deal.....
Letem play with there little gv's, how does this feature effect anyone?
Again...really who cares..... How long can vulching your second account provide any entertainment?
IKON
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Originally posted by Naso
I believe the trick is used to gain perks for Tigers.
Cept for rare occasions I gave up on Tigers.
I can die just as fast in a panzer and its easier to shoot at the aircraft trying to straffe me
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zzzzzzzzzz...... i like cheese zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz........ :aok
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Hitech would never in a million years prohibit second accounts. In fact he is probably upset with us cheapo freeloaders that only have one account.
Now what people do with their account(s) is largely thier business. You are kidding yourself if you dont think this is going on a lot more though, one of the current top flyers was once caught red handed doing this during a contest in fact. I also knew a guy that used to fly his own goons (second computer) to fields so he could capture bases. (This guy CENTx was/is just one of the stupid ones that made it easy to figure out by namkng himself the same.)
So accepting that the practice isn't going to go away, perhaps a public message on landing " Player X kills (list last 5 ID's". Or in each players online score card have a list of the ID's of the last X number of his kills. Some sort of mechanism that removes the relative secrecy the score manipulators now enjoy would slow this down (at least it did/does in Warbirds).
(One more practice that goes on is what I call "radar" accounts. With the second account they have improvised a way to have universal radar coverage - not to mention the ability to browse the missions in the planner and track them in flight). This stuff is jujst a fact of AH life no sense worrying about it.
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It amazes me that some people lose sleep over this nonsense.
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Perk points? I've got 3500 GV perks... I'll gladly give him 2500 if it stops the tomfoolery :aok
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Originally posted by JB42
LMFAO
What kinda dolt vulches his 2nd account and can only achieve a 10% HP? :rofl
Uh, Sparky, Your squadmates were suspect of these same charges a few months ago.
Karaya
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I only use my second account to find and keeeel nme CV's ;-)
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Originally posted by MOSQ
Squad Name:
EAGLES (Bishops)
Squad CO:
talnz
Web Page:
http://groups.msn.com/eaglessquad
Members:
5
Arena:
Main
Roster:
Tex1
talnz
CENT5
9thID
Magiq
Actually this part made me laugh. He has run out of ideas for names so it's now just "9thID."
:rofl :D :lol
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LOL you called him "Sparky"
Sigh... I have no life
:)
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Originally posted by mechanic
infact, i usualy ignore your posts and move on to the next one.
so you wont notice me saying: screw you then
;)
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Uh, Sparky, Your squadmates were suspect of these same charges a few months ago.
Karaya
WHACK!
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Originally posted by MOSQ
Squad Name:
EAGLES (Bishops)
Squad CO:
talnz
Web Page:
http://groups.msn.com/eaglessquad
Members:
5
Arena:
Main
Roster:
Tex1
talnz
CENT5
9thID
Magiq
Current Tour:
Tour 58
Total squad kills:
425
Total squad deaths:
9
Kills/(Deaths + 1):
42.5
A squad where one member accounts for all 425 kills and 9 deaths. Maybe they should recruit CENT2 so they can double that.
Never heard or seen any of those guys before.
There's really nothing that can be done to prevent this unless HT codes something into the game. As long as humans will be humans, you'll get this sort of stuff in MMOGs.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by ManeDog
I only use my second account to find and keeeel nme CV's ;-)
IMO thats cheating. People who use 2nd accounts to spy on the other teams, to find cv's, to see where enemy missions are headed, to vulch themselves to gain perks/rank......people like that will never get my respect. All those things violate the spirit of the game.
It's just to bad that HiTech and Co. wont do anything about things like this. Not doing anything or saying anything about these things implies that they condone these types of actions imo.
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do we have a name yet?
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Originally posted by SELECTOR
do we have a name yet?
oh god! lol!
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Originally posted by SELECTOR
do we have a name yet?
Geeeeesh ... if it was a dog ... it would bite cha !!!! ... ;)
The suspect(s) are ...
CENT5 and CENT2
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The first thing that comes to my mind is WHO FREAKING CARES.
The next thing is what the difference between this guy and some spawn camper. Ya real sport shoot some body over and over again just as they spawn. Then again its a game so WHO FREAKING CARES.
Finally I cant figure out what was a bigger waste of time. Reading this thread or this guy vulching himself 295 times.
But then again WHO FREAKING CARES!
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Everyone who read this whole thread to anounce they dont care about it gets a Larry of the year award.
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I don't care about Pongo's post.
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Originally posted by whels
just now 296 kills in a T34.
Hmmmm .... taking the necessary reloads into consideration here that sounds like 3-4 hours of steady work as fast as that tank fires. You'd figure such a scorepotato would go for a faster firing vehicle since they all earn the same ... unless they're specifically wanting to impress someone with their T-34 skillz. I'd be more prone to suspect the occasional server hickup.
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so the guy likes to play with himself... ha ha
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Originally posted by Elfie
IMO thats cheating. People who use 2nd accounts to spy on the other teams, to find cv's, to see where enemy missions are headed, to vulch themselves to gain perks/rank......people like that will never get my respect. All those things violate the spirit of the game.
It's just to bad that HiTech and Co. wont do anything about things like this. Not doing anything or saying anything about these things implies that they condone these types of actions imo.
LOL 1st of all I can barely afford 1 account let alone 2. I have to agree with you completly about what happens.
Fact is It happens ALOT!!!
Oh, and HT does do something about it. GOES STRAIGHT TO THE BANK :)
ManeDog
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I would be a bit more concerned if they were still giving out cash for being inthe top 15. I don't remember what was going on, but I got $50 (I think that is what it was) for finishing 9th one tour. Someone got $500 iirc for being the last man airborn in a furbal dogfight that I either did horible in or didn't make, I can't remember.
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zzzzzzzzzzzz.... i like cheese sandwiches...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Fact is It happens ALOT!!!
No matter how much it happens it doesnt make it right.
Oh, and HT does do something about it. GOES STRAIGHT TO THE BANK
I disagree, thats not doing anything about the problem.
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So,
This means for an extra $15.00 per month I can drastically increase my scores! Wow, and all I have to do is just create another account! I have a few PC's so that would work! Cool!!
Maybe then people will respect and fear me. Yea! Fear and respect for an extra $15.00 per month. Some authority to go along with that would be great, but fear and respect are good!
You sure this is right? Sounds a little too good to be true.;)
Serioulsy though, I don't think having two accounts is any more unique to AH than it is for any other online game. The only way to make two or three account cheating (for lack of a better term) is to remove the reward. That, or have an internet Spanish inquisition.
Regards,
Malta
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Originally posted by stantond
So,
This means for an extra $15.00 per month I can drastically increase my scores! Wow, and all I have to do is just create another account! I have a few PC's so that would work! Cool!!
Maybe then people will respect and fear me. Yea! Fear and respect for an extra $15.00 per month. Some authority to go along with that would be great, but fear and respect are good!
You sure this is right? Sounds a little too good to be true.;)
Serioulsy though, I don't think having two accounts is any more unique to AH than it is for any other online game. The only way to make two or three account cheating (for lack of a better term) is to remove the reward. That, or have an internet Spanish inquisition.
Regards,
Malta
We host an inquisition from time to time, unfortunately since this player is a relative unknown, there's not much to burn at the stake.
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Can I sign up to be in the inquisition? Is that here on the AH site?
BTW, what is a second account?
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Originally posted by 1K0N
Hes giving himself perks in gv's so he can afford a couple Tigers....
Big deal.....
Letem play with there little gv's, how does this feature effect anyone?
What about all the other people reguardless of how many accounts they have that actually earn and work for their ranks and perk points? this is who the cheater is cheating. It's specially bad if they're creating free acounts to do it with. It utterly defeats the purpose for even having a points and ranking structure. I worked for my stats and points and there not that good. then some looser come along and pulls this! :mad: then half the people on the board excuses it. :(
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Originally posted by yoyo_boy
Can I sign up to be in the inquisition? Is that here on the AH site?
BTW, what is a second account?
there is no inquisition like the Spanish Inquisition! this one pales in comparison!!
btw... cheese sandwiches are yummy.
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nobody expects the inquisition!
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click on the link " contest rules" 3rd link past community link
on left side of HTCindex page. or click link below.
From December 2002 through March 2003, the top 15 players with the best overall rating at the end of each monthly Tour in the Main Arena will receive a cash prize. The top player will earn a prize of $100 and the remaining pilots in the top 15 will receive a prize of $50. The top 15 players each month during the contest period will also qualify to participate in the Championship Shootout at the end of the four month contest period for a grand prize of $500.
http://www.hitechcreations.com/contest.html (http://www.hitechcreations.com/contest.html)
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Originally posted by Elfie
No matter how much it happens it doesnt make it right.
I disagree, thats not doing anything about the problem.
I agree from a players standpoint this could be viewed as a problem....However I guarentee HT does not view making a larger bank deposit as a problem. Just my 2 cents worth :)
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Originally posted by Pongo
Everyone who read this whole thread to anounce they dont care about it gets a Larry of the year award.
Who's Larry?
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I could care less if he is getting perks and killing himself. I take exception to dual accounts because of spy activity. And your right elfie by not taking action it seems to me HTC is encouraging this kind of activity.
I flew a goon an hour once all the way across about 4 sectors in prep for a NOE mission Only to have Mullah come vulch me out of nowhere. I almost cancelled my account when I was told he was a 2 account dweeb. I wonder if anyone has cancelled their accounts because of something similar. Maybe thats the only way for HTC to pay attention.
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Originally posted by DieAz
click on the link " contest rules" 3rd link past community link
on left side of HTCindex page. or click link below.
http://www.hitechcreations.com/contest.html (http://www.hitechcreations.com/contest.html)
Only one minor problem with that theory.
Contest ended well over a year ago LOL
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Only one minor problem with that theory.
Contest ended well over a year ago LOL
was a response to TC's and Booky's post.
:confused: theory? well it happened. so that makes it a fact.
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BURN THEM AT THE STEAK!!!
Dirty FLOkERS:mad:
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Originally posted by Furball
i have already said my 5CENT worth.
yup i saw that score the other day.... was it 92 kills in a t34 i saw....
5cents.. worth? ;)
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This thread is pure comedy. I love seeing the score potatos whine. This is no different than vulching, bombing unguarded factories, spawn camping, etc. Thanks for the laugh guys!
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Originally posted by Slobberdonkey
This thread is pure comedy. I love seeing the score potatos whine. This is no different than vulching, bombing unguarded factories, spawn camping, etc. Thanks for the laugh guys!
how is it no different??? :rolleyes:
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The guy got 423 kills, and a 105.75-to-1 kill ratio, in 8.5 hours by killing his own targets. Makes vultures, milk runners and spawn campers look like heroic martyrs.
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It can't be prevented. Whether it's two accounts, a couple squaddies working together, or players destroying unprotected stuff, there are going to be players padding their scores. I don't know if there's a game on the internet that doesn't have the same problem. The only logical result is for players to take all scores and ranks with a grain of salt. Use relative scores to judge personal performance or comparison between trustworthy players. In the end, if you come out on top in a battle, even if you didn't kill your opponent, you know you're the victor. Scores are secondary.
Imagine a player with two accounts spending the entire afternoon killing his other icon over and over and over again. Who's the loser? Laugh and move on.
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Uh, Sparky, Your squadmates were suspect of these same charges a few months ago.
Karaya
umm they were ejected immiediatly, and the "problem" was squashed. and it was over a year ago.
you used to be a decent guy to fly with...
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Originally posted by Furball
so you wont notice me saying: screw you then
;)
has anyone seen fubry about? he hasnt posted for ages :(
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On the problem of some players repeatedly killing their second account to pad score....
On the problem of PT boat respawns 20 times to launch torpedo salvos...
On the problem of continuos suicide dweebs...
On the problem of no reward for sucessful defense...
My answer is local pilot attrition.
I proposed this idea before, it seems to me a lot of things get solved if the penalty for a death is that you cannot use the same field again until you've died twice more elsewhere. This doesn't stop anyone from flying, it doesn't limit what you plane can use. It doesn't encourage hordes by making the field harder, requiring more folks just to succeed. You that have died just have to fly elsewhere for a while because you've died and can no longer contribute as a vulch target or the never ending horde stream.
Take that second account elsewhere, while you fly your score plane over.
more details on the idea at:
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=133869
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Originally posted by DieAz
was a response to TC's and Booky's post.
:confused: theory? well it happened. so that makes it a fact.
what I ment was if the thought was that someone was currently using a dual account to win the prize they were about a year and a half too late.
Guess I just took the post wrong.
Been doing that lately it seems LOL
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Originally posted by JB73
you used to be a decent guy to fly with...
My ego never blossomed, nor have I ever had one. When you guys come back down to earth, let me know.
Karaya
PS - I have some film of you guys on Ch. 200, since you have left Rookland. It's quite embarassing actually.
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lmao... u guys are reallllyyyyyyy pathetic....
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
what I ment was if the thought was that someone was currently using a dual account to win the prize they were about a year and a half too late.
Guess I just took the post wrong.
Been doing that lately it seems LOL
LOL ok, I should have clarified why I posted it in the 1st place.
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LMFAO
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By Tabasco
The guy got 423 kills, and a 105.75-to-1 kill ratio, in 8.5 hours by killing his own targets. Makes vultures, milk runners and spawn campers look like heroic martyrs.
I don't think it could be said any better than this! TOO FUNNY!!!
:rofl :lol :lol :rofl
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I wish to sincerely thank Zanth7 for getting my attention about this Friday night. There is little I can do or say that will suffice to appease everyone here.
I have been playing this game with honor since day one. I have never taken CENT2 to another country to spy or pork my points.
That being said I intend to be honest with ya'll and explain what was going on and what I propose to do about it. Some will buy it, some won't. Don't really care as there is no way the satisfy all. No I'm not going to close my CENT2 account. It belongs to my son.
Couple good things came out of this mess. Found out my son and his buddy been skipping school. So I have issues there that will be dealt with. His buddy has his own account which was going to be closed because his parents are entering bankruptcy. Since Robert ( my son) has access to C2 and C5 they hatched a plan to boost the Vehicle point because, yes, they like Tigers. They had played head to head in the main arena before and I had asked them to go to the dueling/training arena to do so. I didn't know what they were up to as I just got back from hunting in Idaho Friday AM.
Anyhow it seems there were 3 incidents. 150+ kills in an M-16, 250+ kills in a t-34 and 290+ in a panzer. I found the M-16 to be a curious choice but ya never know what they were thinking. They did this on both C2 and C5 account.
I have never been a points person. Got that out of my system in AW1. First off I am more interested in strat issues to either defend my country or advance my country.
I have been a loyal Bish since about 6 months after AH started. Tried all 3 countries and this is where I settled and have no intention to move any time soon.
Anyhow this is what I propose to do to atempt to reconcile the issue. If it is satisfactory then so be it. If there are other proposals, I'll listen to them.
I propose to dump the porked vehicle points. I will remote spawn 10 tigers from both C2 and C5 and ditch them. Since my word is pretty much in doubt I would appreciate if some method of verifcation of this dumping took place. I will be in the main arena at 1300 EST tomorrow. (Monday) I will make a broadcast on CH1 and country channel of my intent. I will state where I coming from and launch direction. If I get a response from anyone who wishes to verify my actions I will wait till they are positioned on the spawn point at which time I will proceed. I will NOT listen to alot of BS. This is embarassing enough and I intend to attempt to reconcile the issue as professionally as I can.
My sincere apologies to the AH community.
Once again I wish to thank Zanth7 for pulling my ear.
CENT5
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Sorry for your embarrassment and I for one can sympathize, if I ever quit laughing. S!
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Keep your tigers just dont do any traitorous spying. I could care less about perks.
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it'd be too much hassle for HTC to figure out and remove whatever perks/points were obtained. in the big picture it's an inconsequential bump.
the important thing that came of this is the discovery of events related to your son's education. i'm sure there are a few lessons to be learned/passed along from this. hope they stick.
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Naw cent, dont' dump the perks. It's good 'nuff that the "issue" was resolved. Your a big man to come here and post.
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i for one find this explanation to be more than satisfactory and just a little more funny than when the dirty fokkers got busted.
cent5, great strength of character to post as you did.
your son is a smart lad, thats a plus side!
on the other hand, if you are lying, your post was so well written we forgive you any ways :D
(joke)
batfink
PS: mind if i sit at the spawn and make sure you lose the perks? maybe in a pnsr??
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*sigh*
Does this mean we're not going to be burning anyone at the stake?
ack-ack
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lol thats good.
you should just keep the perks :)
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LOL, what a great thread!
I read the whole thing in one shot! It was like reading a story!
Great ending too!
CENT5, good luck!
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Cent5!!!
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Cent5.
Fuhgetaboutit. Personally I'm a little embarrassed that I didn't consider the possibility that your account got "hijacked". Case closed, water under the bridge, bygones be bygones, etc. :)
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Cent5, glad you found out about your son's
actions. no need to dump the points. just glad we-you
found out before it gone on longer.
Whels
Originally posted by CENT5
I wish to sincerely thank Zanth7 for getting my attention about this Friday night. There is little I can do or say that will suffice to appease everyone here.
I have been playing this game with honor since day one. I have never taken CENT2 to another country to spy or pork my points.
That being said I intend to be honest with ya'll and explain what was going on and what I propose to do about it. Some will buy it, some won't. Don't really care as there is no way the satisfy all. No I'm not going to close my CENT2 account. It belongs to my son.
Couple good things came out of this mess. Found out my son and his buddy been skipping school. So I have issues there that will be dealt with. His buddy has his own account which was going to be closed because his parents are entering bankruptcy. Since Robert ( my son) has access to C2 and C5 they hatched a plan to boost the Vehicle point because, yes, they like Tigers. They had played head to head in the main arena before and I had asked them to go to the dueling/training arena to do so. I didn't know what they were up to as I just got back from hunting in Idaho Friday AM.
Anyhow it seems there were 3 incidents. 150+ kills in an M-16, 250+ kills in a t-34 and 290+ in a panzer. I found the M-16 to be a curious choice but ya never know what they were thinking. They did this on both C2 and C5 account.
I have never been a points person. Got that out of my system in AW1. First off I am more interested in strat issues to either defend my country or advance my country.
I have been a loyal Bish since about 6 months after AH started. Tried all 3 countries and this is where I settled and have no intention to move any time soon.
Anyhow this is what I propose to do to atempt to reconcile the issue. If it is satisfactory then so be it. If there are other proposals, I'll listen to them.
I propose to dump the porked vehicle points. I will remote spawn 10 tigers from both C2 and C5 and ditch them. Since my word is pretty much in doubt I would appreciate if some method of verifcation of this dumping took place. I will be in the main arena at 1300 EST tomorrow. (Monday) I will make a broadcast on CH1 and country channel of my intent. I will state where I coming from and launch direction. If I get a response from anyone who wishes to verify my actions I will wait till they are positioned on the spawn point at which time I will proceed. I will NOT listen to alot of BS. This is embarassing enough and I intend to attempt to reconcile the issue as professionally as I can.
My sincere apologies to the AH community.
Once again I wish to thank Zanth7 for pulling my ear.
CENT5
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And the world begins to rotate again....
(that was close!!!!)
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Glad you had evidence to find out bout ya son before the school ended up calling you.
guess we will not be seeing Cent2 for a lil while!
takem easy Cent5
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Can I borrow your son and his friend? I've got two accounts they could work on :D
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"i for one find this explanation to be more than satisfactory and just a little more funny than when the dirty fokkers got busted."
Lol well said!
Keep them perkies!
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Originally posted by MaddogWx
"i for one find this explanation to be more than satisfactory and just a little more funny than when the dirty fokkers got busted."
why keep bringing up and beating on a dead horse? just curious... that happened over or near a year ago............
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Cent5 contacted me few mins ago in MA. HE wanted to correct the
ill gotten tiger perks, so i flew a tiff to near by base. i ditch near the field, close enough that when he upped tigers,
and drove off the field concret and exited, he got a ditch.
i can confirm he ditch the perks in both Cent5 and Cent2 accounts.
Cent5
Whels
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:aok ...
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Ah man I should of loaned ya my Baby Roo ... He can make burn off perks faster then anyone I know .
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I want to thank whels for coming in to verify my ditches. Once again I apologize to all for this incident.
While CENT2 and CENT5 have been flying for a long time (Since AW1 on AOHELL) we were probably not well known as we do not put up splashy numbers, caring little about rank or points. We fly because we love the game, the competition between the people and countries. (and because Dad has been working on airplanes for going on 34 years and still can't get enough)
Had a good conversation with Robert last night. He is a good Christian young man who just kind of got caught up in the moment.
I explained to him that in the on-line world as well as in real life a man has little else but his name and reputation. These are bound to him for good or for bad and it's up to him to uphold what he believes in. I believe in duty and honor. I think Robert has learned a life's lesson in these matters.
Toward the end of our talk Robert said " Ya know Dad we were not well known before but this incident has made you famous" I laughed and said "No son it made me Infamous and I could have done without it thanks" We laughed, shed a couple tears and had a good long hug and called it a night.
So when you see a couple of 109G10's or FW 190A8's spiraling down on your base you can kiss your troops goodbye cause the CENTS package doesn't miss. We will fly high and proud and continue to contribute to the Bish cause in any little way we can.
I want to personally thank all the people that contributed to this thread. It does kind of read like a story. One, I hope, is not soon repeated. LOL
ALL
CENT5
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and to sons. and the lessons they remind us of.
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What a story!
Cent5 you are a class act.
S!
g00b
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Originally posted by CENT5
I explained to him that in the on-line world as well as in real life a man has little else but his name and reputation. These are bound to him for good or for bad and it's up to him to uphold what he believes in. I believe in duty and honor. I think Robert has learned a life's lesson in these matters.
Could you take the time out to sit and have that talk with, oh , say a couple dozen folks here? Them's be words to live by...
..ya while you're at it, do see what ya can do with Baby Roo....hehe.;)
OMG, I just thought of this Rosco, doesn't MrsRoo have an account? oh, man don't let Baby Roo read this thread whatever you do!! :eek:
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Originally posted by airbumba
Could you take the time out to sit and have that talk with, oh , say a couple dozen folks here? Them's be words to live by...
..ya while you're at it, do see what ya can do with Baby Roo....hehe.;)
OMG, I just thought of this Rosco, doesn't MrsRoo have an account? oh, man don't let Baby Roo read this thread whatever you do!! :eek:
Her account is in time out mode as for she doesnt have the time to play right now. I could just see it now, a bunch of 3-4 yr olds in here padding there scores ... I'd never hear the end of if it .
btw I grounded him to offline mode , nickjr.com, dr suess abc,elmo,reader rabbit preschool, and a couple of other learning games he likes .
BTW those of you with young ones .. nickjr.com rocks ..
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Must be multiple personality disorder..... He is in effect killing himself because his dad was never there for him cause he was always playing Pong on his Atari.
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TequilaChaser -
I was not the one that brought it up originally, I did however repeat it and agree with the comment. So others feal as I do that second account killing is stupid - their money though.