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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Captain Virgil Hilts on November 09, 2004, 11:19:33 PM
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I'm outta here. I'm taking 90 days, I'm keeping my subscription that long, if I'm not back by the end of 90 days, I'm not coming back. Too much frustration and not enough fun. I'm not flying well most of the time. Have fun.
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Virgil,
Gonna miss your posts.
Seems like you may have plateaued (if thats a word) but it may be that you're just about to make a breakthrough!
My latest essay: If you're not feeling challenged anymore then you need to be more aggressive to bring back the fun, but if your feeling frustrated (such as in your case) you need a complete change of perspective that only another player can provide.
Watch some gun cams and try to emulate the style and feel of that pilot's view, and where he positions the bandit before shooting him down, even if its counterintuitive. The diversity in tactics is more than expected. Yeah, its kind of a blow to the ego...but just wait 'till you adapt that style to your own and revel in the enjoyment and satisfaction of success. Plus it opens up a whole new realm of possible tactics to be explored.
All the best in whatever you choose.
RitteR
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Hang in there Savage. Take some time to read some more 38 stuff and get back into the history more.
Maybe in 90 days there will be a good reason to get back in your 38 :)
Don't skip the boards though. We can always use 38 experts
Dan/Slack
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Too much frustration and not enough fun. I'm not flying well most of the time.
Ive caught a touch of this myself. Cant really put my finger on it, but Im not having a good time here for some reason.
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I was there -- but I've found the cure that works for me!
1) I lightened up, deciding that I wasnt going to watch my kpd after every sortie and if i get vulched I'd say, "so what." AND I stopped doing anything jsut for points -- no more milk runs anytime, anywhere. Score chasing is just too frustrating.
2) I did just a couple DA sessions with people who agreed to give pointers afterwards. I didnt get any kills out of my 6-9 sorties, but we had some good fights and I learned some VERy good stuff. (thanks BLAUVER!)
3) I changed rides and fight styles. I had been an agresssive energy fighter preferring Dora and A5, but now I'm doing turn fighting. I'm riding a variety of Spits, messing with the Yak, trying new stuff (for me) like the jug and P38 (though i really stink in those).
4) I'm not a country partisan anymore. My squad left rooks for Nits, and I decided to stay put. I'm lone wolfing for now, but I freely switch to the country that looks like its having the best fights -- usually the outnumbered side. I'll eventually hook up with a squad, because I really miss the teamwork and camraderie, but for now I'm just enjoying the freedom.
And as a result I'm having a lot of fun. :aok :aok
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Been there many times....but still sorry to see you go....
If your ball and chained to the 38:)...thats your problem (half joking). However, truthfully its not really a great ride for the MA as a primary fighter....doesnt mean it cant be flown well, just that it s fun meter runs out quickly and it becomes work...now the Ki-61 on the other hand is always fun:aok even if your being forced to work the underpowered little fella.
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Humble, it ain't the plane, it's the pilot, and at times the atmosphere.
I find myself going on too many cold streaks where I can't do anything right, I can't shoot worth a damn, and I can't seem to fly at all. I'm either hot or cold, no in between and I can't figure out what I'm doing that sets me on a cold streak. I get a decent week or two out of a tour, than the slump sets in and I can't win a fight with a C-47, and it lasts for at least a week or two.
Then there's something I've been noticing a lot more lately. The general attitude of a lot of the players is a joke.
Too many times I will work an enemy down and get him into position, and have a "friendly" zoom past an enemy that is behind me and gaining a little position to "steal the kill" and leave me with an enemy they could have killed, but I'm now at a disadvantage to. Then there's the "friendlies" who will drive an enemy down into you and just break off when the enemy doesn't seem to be as easy a kill anymore. I guess I'm just too stupid to play that way, but I ALWAYS try to get the enemy off of a friendly's tail as an absolute priority. I may zoom in and finish an enemy, but if I do, you can be sure I won't have left another enemy on that friendly's tail with a firing solution, or even an advantage. If a friendly is in trouble, I'll either clear him or die trying.
Anyway, although I have a few complaints with the game, the problem is me. I'll keep my account open for a while, but after another really bad night last night, I tossed my stick on the floor and kicked it into the trash can. I'm not buying another stick for a while. If I haven't decided to get another stick by February, I'll just close my account and leave.
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hehe...
Got two broken sticks in the closet...BTW JB weld works wonders...repaired my X36 a dozen times or more (my wife just busts a gut listening to me @#$#% away). Finally bought an X-45 is a bit better "Armoured" then the X-36 it replaced.
I've flown for 10+ years now (a good bit in your current squad) and you'll go thru streaks. Truthfully the biggest reason I didnt consider asking to rejoin 327th was decision to not stay rook...lot of great guys and great "teamwork" but its the horde mentality at its worst. What you describe is much more common as a rook then in either other "side". Alot of what your describing is also very much plane related. The 38 is alot more "enviornment" driven then some others. A 38 thats expended both energy and "position" to gain an edge...and then is disenfranchised by a"friendly" is in a tough spot...but it'll happen everywhere.
Messing with my lala yesterday morning and came on a fellow niggit caught in a 1 on 2 on the deck...came in and cleared him and started in on one of the cons (tiffie and 109)...he was primarily flying a "flat fight and I kept breaking of the tiffie to the 109 and back giving him vox info etc...finally decide to take out the 109 since he's the better more aggresive pilot...break the tiffie off him saddle up on the 109 and take him out only to have the tiffie drill me...with this guy sitting ~600 behind the tiffie with no 6 call...used me to set up a plane form shot on tiffie.
Happened to catch two spitties on the way out (next hop) so I dragged em to him and let em have him:aok
It all goes around....
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Yup I was there too... I seem to go back there every now and again. I have streaks where I have no fear, can just fly straight into a battle and know I'll be fine and end up coming out with kills. Then there are times where I feel like I'm doing everything right and get knocked out of the fight faster than a fat kid at a dodgeball game.
Freaked my wife out about 2 weeks ago... she was sitting in the room with me when I was flying my a5. I came up against a spit, we merged, I rolled under his HO attempt, reversed on him, missed a perfect snapshot on him (you know the ones where the tracers go all around the plane, you can't figure out how you could possibly miss because it was that perfect?) only to be stupid and slow down and get suckered into that slow turnfight because I wanted another chance at that shot. Needless to say, I got killed, and the guy that did it was an inexperienced pilot. My God, you never heard such 4 letter words... my wife looked like she saw a ghost.
Anyway, I don't think I've flown with you in the game, but enjoy your posts on the BBS... take some time off.. this game is like crack, there is no quitting cold turkey :D
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Are you sure its you and the LagWare? My hit % for example is usualy a terible 5% to 8%. Since this map came up I am at 3% with planes flying throught tracers, and others exploding when I clearly did not have a shot at them but pulled the triger anyway.
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
I find myself going on too many cold streaks where I can't do anything right, I can't shoot worth a damn, and I can't seem to fly at all. I'm either hot or cold, no in between and I can't figure out what I'm doing that sets me on a cold streak. I get a decent week or two out of a tour, than the slump sets in and I can't win a fight with a C-47, and it lasts for at least a week or two.
dude thats been me for the last 2 years LOL
try changing your flight style. take the p40 and go head long into a furball, or zoom on the dect to an enemy base, pop up and see who tries to get you. if you get a kill or 2 be proud you survived the 3-1 or whatever for a while.
anyway thats just a thought. sir and hope yas come back.
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Savage,
take a breather, enjoy the autumn air and eat some sweet potatoe pie! :D
We will be here when you have filled up on relaxtion!
Originally posted by humble
Messing with my lala yesterday morning and came on a fellow niggit caught in a 1 on 2 on the deck...came in and cleared him and started in on one of the cons (tiffie and 109)...he was primarily flying a "flat fight and I kept breaking of the tiffie to the 109 and back giving him vox info etc...finally decide to take out the 109 since he's the better more aggresive pilot...break the tiffie off him saddle up on the 109 and take him out only to have the tiffie drill me...with this guy sitting ~600 behind the tiffie with no 6 call...used me to set up a plane form shot on tiffie.
Happened to catch two spitties on the way out (next hop) so I dragged em to him and let em have him:aok
It all goes around....
this description sums up to about 90/95% of the way countrymen/ supposedly team mates ( everyone in a particular country is a team mate f one another for you all are flying for the same side ) treat each other...........
this will not change for it has crept its way into the everyday mayhem of the MA and any other arena outside of the TA or SEA.............
would be awesome if HTC split this place up and have an arcade or allmighty point monger arena ( something like RR in AW ) and then have a Top Notch arena ( sort of like FR in AW ) where people actually looked out for one another regardless if you was a squad mate or a countrymen........be nice to get back to having great fights, respect anothers fight, quit the score/kill whoring dweebs!
some of you flyers from past are still present and know what I am trying to explain here. alot of us come from different sims and different ideas of what is appropriate..etc...this is why there is so much differentualitys in the MA and why you always here complaining! just my thoughts.... :cool:
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Savage for a break from the MA arena play you might want to try out Friday Night Squad Ops in the SEA. Its a very different style of play when you have 1 life period.
Lots of team work and achieving your assigned objectives is the crux of the events not just killing for killing's sake.
If interested drop me a line and I could hook you up with a squad to fly with (its a squad based event .. but only in that groups have to be formed into squads and don't even have to be apart of the same squad in the MA .. Nightmares squad for Squad Ops has several from different squads).
But overall I find it very nice and refreshing change of pace from the MA.
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Originally posted by ghostdancer
Savage for a break from the MA arena play you might want to try out Friday Night Squad Ops in the SEA. Its a very different style of play when you have 1 life period.
Lots of team work and achieving your assigned objectives is the crux of the events not just killing for killing's sake.
If interested drop me a line and I could hook you up with a squad to fly with (its a squad based event .. but only in that groups have to be formed into squads and don't even have to be apart of the same squad in the MA .. Nightmares squad for Squad Ops has several from different squads).
But overall I find it very nice and refreshing change of pace from the MA.
I've been flying it since I joined the AK's....what a great great event. If I haven't said it before...thanks to all for the time and effort spent to make it such a success....:aok :aok :aok
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Originally posted by TequilaChaser
this description sums up to about 90/95% of the way countrymen/ supposedly team mates ( everyone in a particular country is a team mate f one another for you all are flying for the same side ) treat each other...........
this will not change for it has crept its way into the everyday mayhem of the MA and any other arena outside of the TA or SEA.............
would be awesome if HTC split this place up and have an arcade or allmighty point monger arena ( something like RR in AW ) and then have a Top Notch arena ( sort of like FR in AW ) where people actually looked out for one another regardless if you was a squad mate or a countrymen........be nice to get back to having great fights, respect anothers fight, quit the score/kill whoring dweebs!
some of you flyers from past are still present and know what I am trying to explain here. alot of us come from different sims and different ideas of what is appropriate..etc...this is why there is so much differentualitys in the MA and why you always here complaining! just my thoughts.... :cool:
I think you are exactly right TC. I really think HTC should be pushing hard with some kind of more aggressive program than what little is in place now to get new people into the TA. Not forcing them, no, but at least encouraging. They learn so much more than how to start up a plane and pull the trigger from you guys who give up your time to Train. I'm also convinced that getting more people interested in flying scenarios, along with the other special events like squad ops/KOTH/snapshots, etc fosters much more of a sense of community and crosses squad boundaries. Besides all that, it helps in situations like this where guys get burned out on the MA mentality to have totally different stuff to try and to fly for awhile.
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Originally posted by dedalos
Are you sure its you and the LagWare? My hit % for example is usualy a terible 5% to 8%. Since this map came up I am at 3% with planes flying throught tracers, and others exploding when I clearly did not have a shot at them but pulled the triger anyway.
I shot at a plane last night and my tracers were about 20 feet off his right wing......he exploded and I got the kill. :rofl
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Originally posted by dedalos
Are you sure its you and the LagWare? My hit % for example is usualy a terible 5% to 8%. Since this map came up I am at 3% with planes flying throught tracers, and others exploding when I clearly did not have a shot at them but pulled the triger anyway.
Sometimes it is... but this was just my fault. I think he was slowing down to fast and my shots were ahead of him. Thats what really made me mad... I new it was my fault that he got me. I made 2 stupid mistakes and should've known WAY better. Its alright though.. been on a good run lately.
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Originally posted by TequilaChaser
this will not change for it has crept its way into the everyday mayhem of the MA and any other arena outside of the TA or SEA.............
TC, i think it's more than the arena. We have to admit that modern culture itself emphasizes selfishness over teamwork. Those who believe the Duty Honor Country philosophy are even more of a minority than ever.
That's why squads -- and squad work -- are important. Not only do you get peers to fly with, but if you choose well you'll get a group of people that believe in the same approach you do.
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try hanging out in h2h theres some fun to be had. I usually hope back and forth.
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Originally posted by TC this will not change for it has crept its way into the everyday mayhem of the MA and any other arena outside of the TA or SEA
Originally posted by Simaril
TC, i think it's more than the arena. We have to admit that modern culture itself emphasizes selfishness over teamwork. Those who believe the Duty Honor Country philosophy are even more of a minority than ever.
That's why squads -- and squad work -- are important. Not only do you get peers to fly with, but if you choose well you'll get a group of people that believe in the same approach you do.
Simaril,
I was not saying the arena was at fault, or anything of the like. I was saying the way people look at or treat each other in the arena on the same country is not what it used to be and the --> get this --->"QUAKE" or "NUKE EM 3D" mentality has crept it's way into the MA and other arenas in AH.......and is why we have what we have! a community that once was a type that did not score potato, gang 5 on 1, jump in to pick off someone's bandit after that someone has worked hard to gain the angles, always offered to clear a friendlys 6, or was there for the Team ( meaning country )
with the influx of what ever you might want to call them, degenerates that have no respect of another person or the other persons enjoyment in a flight simulation combat game, degenerates that sit and spawn camp for a sheer delight of thinking they look good when landing 50 kills in a GV or 20 kills in a hurri 1 or other crap........ all the blantant masked vulgarity or abbreviated curse words, or sex organs etc........certian groups that whine and cry about what is not fair yet have their certian friends mute others or ban others from talking for extended periods of time as they see fit, yet let their mates get off with out a word spoken.........crap like this needs to be looked at and remedied! If not then more people will leave and just more unraised glorified "GAMERS" of the worst kind will fill their place and make the AH community in game and on these boards even worse than it is now........
We all have seen it, In Game, On the AH BBs, yet either some don't care, or they flame instead of bringing a good discussion up about it, or they get fed up and leave.......it is time to straighten up and clean house, reprimand the ones that are out of line or get out of line.........thing is most can spurt off the names/handles/game ids of the worst offenders and have to stop for a breathe or 2 before they finish the list....
So tell me, where do you think this AH community should lead, to a more brighter, respectable, place to gather and associate interest in WW2 affairs and aircraft or turn it into another "freaky teenager type" blastem up game with all the ill effects of blurting out obsceneties on the txt buffer in game ( channel does not matter , happens on every channel ) letting discussions of off topic items of sex, religion, drugs, etc....roll withut interuption
maybe I slipped off the edge here a WEE BIT, but I am not far here from the actual truth of the way things seem to be turning......
and really it is up to the players to decide what is and isn't appropriate in the game and on the boards ( really HTC is the one with the power ) but the players can police ( use this word lightly) to a degree and fix some of the things wrong......
As for explaining to me about squads and teamwork etc......I understand that and know all about it, I am going into my 11th year of flying flight sims online, I also understand that the lack of calling down people when they step beyond the boundry is somewhat low, you do see people calling others on their choice of words or discussions etc..but you see it seldomly.....
sorry for getting off topic in Savage's thread.........
Savage, see ya when you get ya a new stick....die hards never die, they just pause for a recharge!
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Hurry Back Savage. I have taken a break before. It's not a bad thing at all to take a lil time.
:aok
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Originally posted by TequilaChaser
Simaril,
I was not saying the arena was at fault, or anything of the like. I was saying the way people look at or treat each other in the arena on the same country is not what it used to be and the --> get this --->"QUAKE" or "NUKE EM 3D" mentality has crept it's way into the MA and other arenas in AH.......and is why we have what we have! a community that once was a type that did not score potato, gang 5 on 1, jump in to pick off someone's bandit after that someone has worked hard to gain the angles, always offered to clear a friendlys 6, or was there for the Team ( meaning country )
with the influx of what ever you might want to call them, degenerates that have no respect of another person or the other persons enjoyment in a flight simulation combat game, degenerates that sit and spawn camp for a sheer delight of thinking they look good when landing 50 kills in a GV or 20 kills in a hurri 1 or other crap........ all the blantant masked vulgarity or abbreviated curse words, or sex organs etc........certian groups that whine and cry about what is not fair yet have their certian friends mute others or ban others from talking for extended periods of time as they see fit, yet let their mates get off with out a word spoken.........crap like this needs to be looked at and remedied! If not then more people will leave and just more unraised glorified "GAMERS" of the worst kind will fill their place and make the AH community in game and on these boards even worse than it is now........
We all have seen it, In Game, On the AH BBs, yet either some don't care, or they flame instead of bringing a good discussion up about it, or they get fed up and leave.......it is time to straighten up and clean house, reprimand the ones that are out of line or get out of line.........thing is most can spurt off the names/handles/game ids of the worst offenders and have to stop for a breathe or 2 before they finish the list....
So tell me, where do you think this AH community should lead, to a more brighter, respectable, place to gather and associate interest in WW2 affairs and aircraft or turn it into another "freaky teenager type" blastem up game with all the ill effects of blurting out obsceneties on the txt buffer in game ( channel does not matter , happens on every channel ) letting discussions of off topic items of sex, religion, drugs, etc....roll withut interuption
maybe I slipped off the edge here a WEE BIT, but I am not far here from the actual truth of the way things seem to be turning......
and really it is up to the players to decide what is and isn't appropriate in the game and on the boards ( really HTC is the one with the power ) but the players can police ( use this word lightly) to a degree and fix some of the things wrong......
As for explaining to me about squads and teamwork etc......I understand that and know all about it, I am going into my 11th year of flying flight sims online, I also understand that the lack of calling down people when they step beyond the boundry is somewhat low, you do see people calling others on their choice of words or discussions etc..but you see it seldomly.....
sorry for getting off topic in Savage's thread.........
Savage, see ya when you get ya a new stick....die hards never die, they just pause for a recharge!
Well Said
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Amazingly what has helped me, not just in AH, but in life is a book called "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance".
There are others, "Zen and Archery", etc.
But they all basically say the same thing. It's a bit of letting go, but also keeping up with things. That might seems an oxymoron but it's not.
Story:
An old and a young monk were walking from one temple to another to carry news. Along the way they met a young lady by small river. She was afraid to cross the river. The older monk picked her up and carried her across the stream with the younger monk following. Once across the old monk set her down and continued his journey. The younger monk was visibly upset at the older monk. After a few miles the older monk asked the younger monk why he was upset. The younger monk proclaimed, "We are not supposed to hold women." At which the older monk said, "I put the women down after the river. Why are you still carrying her?"
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I agree with much of what has been posted here.
The truth is I fly with one of the very best squads in AH, with a proud history that goes way back to AW FR, and helped found the AzForce, which was the precursor to the RJO, and also the same squad ran the original KOTH back in AW as well. The 327th Steel Talons.
On the other hand, I despise the thought of ONLY being able to depend on people from the squad or people who fly alongside the squad. We have squad night twice a week. But I also like a change of pace, and want to fly a night or two a week semi solo, meaning I will work with different people and different squads on non squad nights. Or at least I used to try to. It was a way to meet new and different people, and to learn new stuff.
I think it has a lot more to do with the ever changing "society" we have. It was creeping in as far back as AW, so it isn't something peculiar to AH.
I think that the regular gaming crowd has come to the world of the World War II combat flight sim, and it has brought on changes that the "old guard" is not and never will be happy with. I suppose the truth is that HTC needs the new people to survive and prosper.
But I think at least the MA has drifted away from the day when it was about fulfilling the dream of flying World War II combat just like the guys we all had books about and revered. To some, it is just another game where you get to compete with and kill real human opponents, that just happens to have World War II aircraft as the weapons.
So it isn't the same anymore. And that takes a lot of the shine off of it for some people, myself included. Gone are the days when the frustration and aggravation of a slump or a cold streak was offset by the rest of the experience.
In the end, I probably will be back, despite the feeling now that I just want to walk away and forget it. I gave up tobacco (for the most part, I still grab a cigar or two every once in a while, as opposed to a roll of Skoal a week and a pack or two of chewing tobacco to boot) a lot easier than this. But then each time the frustration gets worse, and I stay gone longer.
Were it not for my friends and squadmates, I think I'd just go and not look back, and get on with life in the real world. But they all draw me back in at least for a while.
<> guys, and have fun.
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Originally posted by TequilaChaser
Simaril,
I was not saying the arena was at fault, or anything of the like. I was saying the way people look at or treat each other in the arena on the same country is not what it used to be .....
it is time to straighten up and clean house, reprimand the ones that are out of line or get out of line.........
thing is most can spurt off the names/handles/game ids of the worst offenders and have to stop for a breathe or 2 before they finish the list....
and really it is up to the players to decide what is and isn't appropriate in the game and on the boards ( really HTC is the one with the power ) but the players can police ( use this word lightly) to a degree and fix some of the things wrong......
Agree 100%. Never meant my comment to be a pointed reply to you specifically, but more of a general statement to the effect that AH2 community will tend to reflect the modern world's civilization, or lack thereof.
If we did slap down the offenders, the atmosphere of our subculture would most decidedly change.
tc, no disrespect intended at all.
Simaril
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none taken Simaril :)
always liked the quote Dmd Chief uses in his emails or postings:
Have the courage to step up and lead, and the public will follow.
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
In the end, I probably will be back, despite the feeling now that I just want to walk away and forget it. I gave up tobacco (for the most part, I still grab a cigar or two every once in a while, as opposed to a roll of Skoal a week and a pack or two of chewing tobacco to boot) a lot easier than this. But then each time the frustration gets worse, and I stay gone longer.
You'll be back, maybe not in 90 days but you will return. I took almost a year off after about 6 years of hard core playing. It wasn;t done out of frustration, more to do with boredom in my case. But after 10 months when I did return I fell in love all over again, and that was 4 years ago. Like another old-hand in our squad always says..."I can quit anytime...REALLY."
:D
and look forward to seein ya when you get back.