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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: GtoRA2 on November 10, 2004, 01:08:32 PM
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Sorry everyone we hate democracy!
I found this page through the glen beck show!
What a bunch of losers!
The page! (http://www.sorryeverybody.com/gallery/1/)
look at this chump! (http://www.sorryeverybody.com/upload_files/se1.jpg)
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That ******* stole my ****ing shopping cart!!! What the **** am I supposed to carry my **** in now?
-SW
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Buncha sorry people.
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
(http://www.sorryeverybody.com/upload_files/se1.jpg)
Dnt you mean:
Sorrty everyone I didnt get around to slashing more reublican get out the vote bus tires. I didnt steal enough Bush Cheney signs (damn will my hand ever heal), I didnt storm enough republican capaign offices nor did enough of my dead relatives and mexican citizen friends vote. Sorry France, sorry Germany, sorry Iran! Sorry! Off to the WTC for me!
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We will never really know/how much the Dems tried to cheat with dead people and ilegals etc, but can you imagine how dumb they must feel if they did cheat?
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I imagine both sides cheated and did all kinds of shenanigans... but then again, I also imagined a pink elephant was eating my underpants.
-SW
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I do not think the Reps were cheating much in the sense of getting dead people to vote ETC, I think the news media would have been ALL over that.
I think they would be less so for the Kerry crowd since he was their man.
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
We will never really know/how much the Dems tried to cheat with dead people and ilegals etc, but can you imagine how dumb they must feel if they did cheat?
That's the problem with dumb people, they don't know they're dumb.
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Thinking hurts me.
-SW
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(http://www.sorryeverybody.com/upload_files/se715.JPG)
Kerry voters... :rolleyes:
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I want a page that is the counter point..
Iamnotsorry.com
Have the opening page be W flipping the bird, the moto being everyone flipping the bird to the rest of the world.:D
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:lol
(http://www.sorryeverybody.com/upload_files/se3673.jpeg)
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Don't those *******s know Commyism is dead? On top of that it was a stupid bellybutton idea in the first place?
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I don't get the outrage, these people can't have their opinions?
-SW
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Who is outraged?
I found it sadly amusing.
Who is trying to stop them, we are just using our freedom of speech to make fun of them, as they are using theirs to look like tools.
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
Don't those *******s know Commyism is dead? On top of that it was a stupid bellybutton idea in the first place?
Communism only killed a couple hundred million people, it needs another chance.
;)
Actually the trick is that commuinsts have convinced themselves that all the disaters, political "genocides", and political and human rights abuses caused by communism in the past century were only abberations. They belive that real commuinsm has not been given a chance anywhere and that it really needs yet another chance. Of course all sane people know that real commuinsm has been given a chance to run nations many times and that in every instance it has shown itself to be pure tyranical evil for the citizens of those nations.
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I dunno, looks like outrage...
Kind of like the whole Micheal Moore obsession, just seemed odd that the only counter argument is name-calling and such.
-SW
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That is prolly true Grun but they are fooling themselves.
They fail to take into acount for human nature and lazyness.
The lazy will bring the system down because it is human nature to not work as hard when you see lazy people getting the same and doing noting.
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
I don't get the outrage, these people can't have their opinions?
-SW
SW is turning eurotrash on us and forgetting tht the first amendement also gives us the right to be pissed off and make fun of the people we disagree with even if that means we disagee with SW viewpoint...
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My viewpoint is what Grun? Since you seem to already know it, I'd like to have it.
-SW
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The irony of this thread is astounding.
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Your blind if you think the only counter argument to moores stuff was name calling..
There is no discussion here with the people from the page..
WE ARE MAKING FUN OF THEM.... it is funny. If you fail to see the humer thats fine, you seem like a fairly humorless person as of late.
But to say we are arguing by calling names is just dumb, there is no argument or discussion in this thread.
Well at least no about that web site.
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SOB
What Irony? Am I missing something? I know that happens alot but still.
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
I don't get the outrage, these people can't have their opinions?
-SW
Sure they can, but we can have ours. These people are idiots in that they feel the need to apologize to the world. :rolleyes:
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Like GtoRA2 said, only mildly amusing. It's ok by me if they cry until '08 and well beyond. Might get another chuckle or two over the many years to come. :aok
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Humor? Is thaaat what you call it. I think maybe you should reread the thread.
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Kerry supporters seek therapy in South Florida (http://www.bocanews.com/index.php?src=news&prid=10127&category=Local%20News%20%20&PHPSESSID=dbedc967e0ac261e440983dcdc5d7660)
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I am pretty humorless when it comes to this political bull**** of creating sides and then blastingeach other for no reason when the only difference between the two sides is the name and animal representation.
I never said you couldn't have your opinion, I just didn't understand why they would hate democracy for having an opinion and not attempting to prevent you from having one.
-SW
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Caustic humor?
Mean humor?
Did I not put enough smileys in my posts?
I know the title is a little inflamatory, but the idea is apologising to the world for our elections is so stupid it had to be made fun of.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Kerry supporters seek therapy in South Florida (http://www.bocanews.com/index.php?src=news&prid=10127&category=Local%20News%20%20&PHPSESSID=dbedc967e0ac261e440983dcdc5d7660)
Is it wrong to find that hysterical? ;)
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The title was over the top, but hey this is the aces high Oclub, if you going to catch fish you aint going to do it with a nice title!
I believe in catch and release.
You can go now Wulfie.
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
I know the title is a little inflamatory, but the idea is apologising to the world for our elections is so stupid it had to be made fun of.
I'm all for making fun of people on the Intardnet, but my tolerance level for anything in the political spectrum went below zero a few months ago. I guess I had hopes of the mind-numbing nonsense to go away.
I guess it was this line that got me...
by GTO:
Sorry everyone we hate democracy!
Followed by Grun's typically stupid...
by Grun:
Sorrty everyone I didnt get around to slashing more reublican get out the vote bus tires. I didnt steal enough Bush Cheney signs (damn will my hand ever heal), I didnt storm enough republican capaign offices nor did enough of my dead relatives and mexican citizen friends vote. Sorry France, sorry Germany, sorry Iran! Sorry! Off to the WTC for me!
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Ah, a Beetle-esque type troll.
-SW
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Originally posted by AKIron
Is it wrong to find that hysterical? ;)
There is not only "anything wrong" with finding it hysterical, but it could have been very predictable as well...lets face it, a lib ain't the most "mentally stable" thing on God's green earth, why just look at Airhead as a rough example!
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LOL well I debated about the title, i knew I would get some flak for it.
this stuff will prolly go away, but hell it is only a week after the election. I think it will take a bit longer.
Or another stripper thread.
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The irony is amazing....
I really think its funny that you would accuse the democrats of cheating even after they lost the election, then could not possibly imagine that the republicans could ever do such a thing. Then when someone questions why you are poking fun at someone else for their views you immediately run screaming "First Ammendment!" instead of backing your objection with any sort of thought.
This goes down the same line as all the Michael Moore posts on this BBS... I don't agree with everything in Farenheit 9/11 either, and I think Michael Moore can be a little too over the top most of the time... But at least he spent a great deal of time and money to get his message out because its what he believes, and its his right to do so, and all I see in response here is refusal and name calling. No research into his allegations, we mostly let the media do that for us... and if you think they aren't biased in what they program you've been living under a rock far too long. I hear all these objections from the right wing about Farenheit 9/11, but noone bothered to put together their own documentary showing how it really was backed up with facts did they? Its also funny, that the more people complained about that movie, it made everyone else go out and see it to understand what everyone was complaining about. :lol
Cmon, now put the name calling aside, give me some facts here... I'm really bored at work today and looking for a good discussion. Convince me of your point. I don't want this to be derogatory, just a nice discussion, leave the emotions at the door. =)
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I am hoping you mean inflamatory title with little substance as opposed to the ultra melon who never admits he is wrong type post Wulfie!:D
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I usually avoid laughing at the mentally challenged but sometimes give in to my baser instincts. Sorry to have offended the sensitive among us. :D
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this is not a michael moore thread.
What do you want facts on?
Here are some facts for you.
I find the web site I posted amusing in a sad way.
I find some of the pictures funny.
What other facts do you want? This is not a political discussion, it is an stupid thread about a stupid web site.
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Well, if you say you're just goofing GTO, I believe ya. I haven't noticed that you completely lost your brain in a sea of partisan tardness. So, to contribute:
I had no idea that Mr. Lars was actually a chick!
(http://www.sorryeverybody.com/upload_files/se2652.jpg)
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Why are you bringing Ripsnort into this?
-SW
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I have it on good authority that Mr. Lars is one of the dogs, the small one on the right to be specific.
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
this is not a michael moore thread.
What do you want facts on?
Here are some facts for you.
I find the web site I posted amusing in a sad way.
I find some of the pictures funny.
What other facts do you want? This is not a political discussion, it is an stupid thread about a stupid web site.
Cmon man, I'm trying to fish here... quit makin all that noise!
Just trying to stir the pot, I am so bored today my hair is starting to bleed. Seemed like a gaggle of mad people shouting about politics... was a good place to start =)
BTW, great pic SOB... the dog in the front looks higher than a kite
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now I know were his icon came from!
SOB, I am not Bush fan, in fact I am disgusted by the choices we have had recently.
Still I do find all the crying from the losers amusing. Everyone really should be pretty up beat about the election, the turnout was amazing... people voted, no stupid lawsuites ETC.
Last tuesday was a good day for America in that sense.
Edit( I use LOL to much, I need to fix that!)
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Originally posted by SOB
I had no idea that Mr. Lars was actually a chick!
(http://www.sorryeverybody.com/upload_files/se2652.jpg)
LMAO!!! I think what she meant was "Even I, under-aged, and my two dogs voting, couldn't swing the election"
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Communism only killed a couple hundred million people, it needs another chance.
;)
Yes, many-many hundreed million. The number of victims of Evil Stalin you are told in schools and on TV is more then the whole population of the USSR.
Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Of course all sane people know
Sane people my ***....
"Everyone knows that" is a starting phrase for most of the propaganda crap.
Did you try to develop your own opinions, based on your own research? Failed again?
I don't like modern commies, but I don't like blind/deaf anticommunists even more.
BTW, that picture of Lenin and two German studmuffingots was funny ;)
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(http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1022/csmimg/p6a.jpg)
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Boroda
Do you think Comunism can work?
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SOB what the hell is that pic?
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Has anyone noticed that MrLars hasn't posted since 11/2/2004, and his last words were "Don't get your hopes up" ? His Toast avatar is gone now too.
RIP MrLars! ;)
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Originally posted by Howitzer
I hear all these objections from the right wing about Farenheit 9/11, but noone bothered to put together their own documentary showing how it really was backed up with facts did they?
They didn't?
Fahrenhype 911 (http://fahrenhype911.com/)
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
SOB what the hell is that pic?
I dunno, I typed "communist clown" into Google's image search, and that's what came up. It wasn't really what I was looking for, but I figured, what the hell. :D
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Originally posted by indy007
They didn't?
Fahrenhype 911 (http://fahrenhype911.com/)
He said DOCumentary, not MOCKumentary.
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Originally posted by indy007
They didn't?
Fahrenhype 911 (http://fahrenhype911.com/)
yeah that didn't get as much hype as MM film... I wonder why?
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Communism or socialism doesn't kill anyone. Corruption does.
Kind of like corrupted capitalism does - you know when a drug maker fails to inform the public its drug is causing heart attacks and strokes.
But don't let me interupt this meeting of the young Republicans.
Commi pinko bad bad bad
Socialist bad bad bad
Now lick your Reagan stamp, face Florida, and give a loud "Ditto's for all!!!"
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Originally posted by soda72
yeah that didn't get as much hype as MM film... I wonder why?
I think it's because those that recognize Moore's lies and propaganda for what they are don't need a movie to convince them. Unlike those slavering for dirt on Bush.
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Originally posted by TweetyBird
Communism or socialism doesn't kill anyone. Corruption does.
Kind of like corrupted capitalism does - you know when a drug maker fails to inform the public its drug is causing heart attacks and strokes.
But don't let me interupt this meeting of the young Republicans.
Commi pinko bad bad bad
Socialist bad bad bad
Now lick your Reagan stamp, face Florida, ang give a loud "Ditto's for all!!!"
Perhaps in lala land where you live communsim hasn't killed anyone but in the real world the toll is indeed, contrary to what Boroda may have swallowed, counted in the millions.
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Oh do tell - how did communism do that?
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
He said DOCumentary, not MOCKumentary.
It's not that bad actually. It's not quite the troll that "Michael Moore is a Stupid Fat White Man" is.
Plus, people have been shooting holes in MM's documentaries for years because of his careful editing & spin. This one just got alot more attention. I really wish Bowling for Columbine got the same treatment, since the chopped up pieces & editing are alot more obvious.
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
SOB what the hell is that pic?
Its Hugo Chavez, the leftist, communist USA hating president of Venezuela. We tried to overthrow him a few years ago and pretty much succeded but the whole thing kinda fell apart at the very last moment. The bastige.. :(
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is there honestly anyone left who believes there was any truth to the phony documentary of moore?
as for lars, or, weeping toast boy as he is affectionaltely known as here.... someone should check his house for his body... this guy was so into kerrie that he conned and bused loads of befudled rest home residents to the polls.... in California yet! Like he was fearful kerrie and the women would lose in California!
lars, weeping toast boy....in case you are still alive.... Neeeener neeeeeeener neeeeeeeeeeener.
lazs
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Originally posted by TweetyBird
Oh do tell - how did communism do that?
Communism don't exist in no vacuum. Never did, never will.
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Originally posted by indy007
It's not that bad actually. It's not quite the troll that "Michael Moore is a Stupid Fat White Man" is.
Plus, people have been shooting holes in MM's documentaries for years because of his careful editing & spin. This one just got alot more attention. I really wish Bowling for Columbine got the same treatment, since the chopped up pieces & editing are alot more obvious.
I haven't seen it, and I didn't read carefully (Insert Midnight off-hand remark/troll here). I thought you were referring to F911, MM's flick)
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Kommunism is like my golf game:
Works in theory....
Not in practice....
But, alas, works in China, as long as you keep executing Bank executives for fraud.
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Originally posted by Boroda
Yes, many-many hundreed million. The number of victims of Evil Stalin you are told in schools and on TV is more then the whole population of the USSR. Lenin and two German studmuffingots was funny ;)
I was told that the number was between 10 and 40 million.
The two German guys were pretty funny though. You'd think they'd be too busy making experimental electronic music to pose in front of Marx/Engels/Lenin.
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Originally posted by TweetyBird
Oh do tell - how did communism do that?
Step 1
Communism is adopted by a nation of hundreds of millions through revolution.
Step 2
because it is impossible to make an immediate transition to pure, idealized communism, a provisional government takes control.
Step 3
A power pyramid is formed, with .0000001% of the populous at the top, and everyone else at the base.
Step 4
A single leader, most likely the craftier of the bunch, rises to the top. Everyone else listens to him because, guess what? Those who didn't tend to wind up dead.
Step 5
Single leader is in control of a vast nation, and all of its resources. He is paranoid that an upstart, a man not so different than he himself was in his youth, might decide to win favor with the committee that the leader currently oversees. Paranoid leader takes action.
Step 6
As time wears on, and the line to buy a car or a refrigerator becomes measurable in years, our paranoid leader sees more and more 'upstarts'. He eventually places some very observant people in control of determining who is and who will ulitmately become an upstart based on a very long list of criteria. The group of people, perhaps named something like 'Commitee for Government Safety', grows in size and power.
Step 7
As the committee expands it operations, and weeds out more and more upstarts, their families and their friends, our paranoid leader dies of a stroke.
Step 8
Next guy in line take place. Cycle restarts.
Step 9
Modonna and Mcdonalds force the nation out of business. Head of the Committee for Public Safety waits while a drunken guy fails as a provisional leader, takes control of the country and gives all the cool stuff to his buddies.
Now go get your fluff'n shinebox.
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So Tweety defends communism too..
Just like I said all communists simply say that the misery brought on by every commnst regime ever enacted was just an abberation.
Unbelivable that there are still communist lunatics in this world after a century of communst madness misery and death...
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Originally posted by indy007
They didn't?
Fahrenhype 911 (http://fahrenhype911.com/)
Never heard of it before... I did read the reviews of it, and I think they are quite humorous. Seems that everyone who has a published review disagreed with Farenheit 9/11 from the beginning. Even before seeing this movie. I'll see if I can find this at the local blockbuster... One guy even goes as far as implying Moore would harbor terrorists if he could because he doesn't support the war in Iraq... I think that is going pretty far. There are parts of the movie where is making light of the fact that he didn't agree with how slow Bush was to react to the news of the terrorist attack. From what I gather, seems as if he is all for getting Bin Laden, but confused as to how this led to Iraq. I'm afraid he isn't the only one....
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MM does not make documentaries. He makes opinion films for his own political agenda. Some fact some Bullcrap all spun to but the best face on his own personal opinion.
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
Boroda
Do you think Comunism can work?
they beat you to space, didnt they?
whats it called when the union gets rid of the bosses then takes over the factory?
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Ok, as far as the communism thing....
Explain to me this (now really think about it):
I know socialist/communist ideals do not work in practice, and I know it leads to a dictator or a powerful individual to take the lead and make all the wealth while everyone in the society can do a difficult task or an easy task and benefit the same. But, back in the 50's and 60's the US fought to stop the spread of communism in smaller 3rd world countries from the more powerful countries that offered alliances in return for a change of lifestyle. Tell me, if you put yourself in the shoes of someone from a country like Pakistan and take a look at what the US did to Iraq, and that they overthrew the leader to instill a captialist/democratic government by using free vote, how will it look any different to them? They are seeing the world's last remaining superpower throwing its weight around to change the world to the way it does things because it believes its way is right. I mean it looks like we are trying to put a govt. in power so we can reap the oil rights... everyone knows the middle east is the center for oil. They will see it as an injustice and if they are like we were in the 50's and 60's.... seek a way to stop it. Sadly, that turns to terrorism...
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Originally posted by vorticon
they beat you to space, didnt they?
whats it called when the union gets rid of the bosses then takes over the factory?
I was just lookin' the other day for Internet videos of other countries that have walked on the moon. Got a link?
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Originally posted by vorticon
they beat you to space, didnt they?
whats it called when the union gets rid of the bosses then takes over the factory?
Yes they did, but the hurried way they did it doomed them to ultimately loose the space race. Just compare the Saturn rockets to the failed russian moon rockets to see why.
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Damn, they aren't accepting any more submissions for now. I guess I'll have to wait to post the "I'm Sorry" note I made.
(http://www.matthoffman.us/dl/imsrryblue.gif)
If you use Intardnet Exploder, highlight the pic. :) Sorry, it don't work in Firefox.
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Awesome!
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Its Hugo Chavez, the leftist, communist USA hating president of Venezuela. We tried to overthrow him a few years ago and pretty much succeded but the whole thing kinda fell apart at the very last moment. The bastige.. :(
That's ironic Grunherz supports the overthrow of a democratically elected leader of another country? :confused: .
All those sorry people should be arrested and sent to re-education camps. Don't they know there is a new world order? :cool: .
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Saddam was democratically elected too with 99% of the vote and I supported his removal too..
Too bad we couldnyt pull another Allende on Chavez and his communist buddies...
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Originally posted by lazs2
as for lars, or, weeping toast boy as he is affectionaltely known as here.... someone should check his house for his body... this guy was so into kerrie that he conned and bused loads of befudled rest home residents to the polls.... in California yet! Like he was fearful kerrie and the women would lose in California!
lars, weeping toast boy....in case you are still alive.... Neeeener neeeeeeener neeeeeeeeeeener.
lazs
Some day Lars is gonna kick your ass. And you know what? I'm going to hold his jacket for him- just like my wife held your jacket when you kicked my ass.
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
SOB what the hell is that pic?
Hugo Chavez I think
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Saddam was democratically elected too with 99% of the vote and I supported his removal too..
Too bad we couldnyt pull another Allende on Chavez and his communist buddies...
It was 100% on pain of death. Yeah it is too bad you couldn't pull another Allende and install a fascist dictatorship who make people disappear. What a tragedy:mad: .
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Saddam was democratically elected too with 99% of the vote and I supported his removal too..
Too bad we couldnyt pull another Allende on Chavez and his communist buddies...
Fortunatly Pinochet saved democracie !
Viva Pinochet !
Viva Pinochet !
Et
Viva Pinochet !
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Originally posted by vorticon
they beat you to space, didnt they?
whats it called when the union gets rid of the bosses then takes over the factory?
A Gulag ?
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Kerry supporters seek therapy in South Florida (http://www.bocanews.com/index.php?src=news&prid=10127&category=Local%20News%20%20&PHPSESSID=dbedc967e0ac261e440983dcdc5d7660)
Ahh capitolism at its best.
Why is it when I read this part I kept imagining the sound of cash registers?
"Gordon, the first American Red Cross psychotherapist sent to Ground Zero after the 9/11 terror attacks, said therapists’ main concern is to prevent the recurrence of Kerry-related suicides like the one in New York City.
“There are definitely people depressed by John Kerry’s loss, and this can easily lead to suicides like the one we saw up in New York this weekend,” Gordon said. “Luckily, it can be treated if people seek help. We’re urging people to call us immediately if they feel depressed or know anyone who is seriously stressed out.”
Reminds me of the words of PT Barnum
"Never give a sucker an even break"
I say if anyone is stupid enough to let themselves get so depressed their man didnt win the election that they want to kill themselves.
LET THEM
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Originally posted by Howitzer
Never heard of it before... I did read the reviews of it, and I think they are quite humorous. Seems that everyone who has a published review disagreed with Farenheit 9/11 from the beginning. Even before seeing this movie. I'll see if I can find this at the local blockbuster... One guy even goes as far as implying Moore would harbor terrorists if he could because he doesn't support the war in Iraq... I think that is going pretty far. There are parts of the movie where is making light of the fact that he didn't agree with how slow Bush was to react to the news of the terrorist attack. From what I gather, seems as if he is all for getting Bin Laden, but confused as to how this led to Iraq. I'm afraid he isn't the only one....
If you want to relive the election, you can always watch Fahrenheit 9/11 & Fahrenhype 9/11 back to back. You just have to shut your brain off to the propaganda and draw your own conclusions. It really helps to look up your conclusions online with credible sources and then make up your own mind.
If you want to watch something that's actually mentally stimulating, watch Michael Moore Hates America (http://www.michaelmoorehatesamerica.com/). It was very even-handed, and it's not about ideology. It's more about accountability. Definately worth watching more than any of the others, including MM's own movies.
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Originally posted by cpxxx
It was 100% on pain of death. Yeah it is too bad you couldn't pull another Allende and install a fascist dictatorship who make people disappear. What a tragedy:mad: .
We saved Chile from communism. And the whole thing about Pinochet is the most overblwn BS in history. In nearly 20 years of his rule - which he freely gave up and insituded elections in 1990 - unlike oh castro who is still absolute dicator - only 3000 people dissapeared. Now that sucks for their families but 3000 is far less than any communist revolutinary regime did. Just how many people have Castro and Che made dissaper and they are both left wing popular culture heroes visted by movie stars and lauded over by leftist intellectuals.. All this Pinochet hysteria boils down to is typical left wing excuse making and distractins for communist murderrs, and thankfully we stopped Allenda from getting there..
Lets summarize:
Pinochet stops a Cuban-connected communist takeover of his nation and gets rid of 3,000 deranged communist traitors and foreign communist revolutinary agents in 17 years and then gives up rule in a free election. This makes him evil and he is villified by liberals.
Castro gets rid of masses of people yearning to be free in his country, spreads terror and warfare from south america to sub saharan africa and the mid east causing untold more misery and continues to be an opressive brutral tyranical dictator for life. This earns him adoration from western leftist intellecuals and liberal movie stars..
Give me a ****ing break... :rolleyes:
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airhead.... a liberal from aptos with a weeping toast avatar kick my butt? I ain't that old yet.
lazs
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You are of course right Gruny, 'only' 3000 dead 'deranged communist traitors and foreign communist revolutionary agents' is a small price to pay for freedom under a fascist regime. Really the people of Chile have a lot to thank Pinochet for. How lucky they were not to have ended up like Cuba under that dreadful Castro.
Yes all those western leftist intellecuals and liberal movie stars should be sent re-education camps so they may learn the error of their ways.
There's a place in Cuba (irony again) I believe... eh it's name escapes me now. I'm so glad we are agreeing more and more these days. It's fun :aok .
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I dunno, I typed "communist clown" into Google's image search, and that's what came up. It wasn't really what I was looking for, but I figured, what the hell. -SOB
This is the only post in this entire ignorant thread that makes any sense at all, as does the photo.
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>>So Tweety defends communism too..
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Oh? Why don't you post a quote or something of where I did that.
Communism is another form of government, succepatable to corruption as any other form of government is. Do you associate all the atrocites in the early United States with capitalism or a Republic?
Communism causes warts.
Thats about how much sense the idea that communism kills people, makes.
You have to stop believing Standard Oil.
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cpxx, actual facts can shatter their fragile reality and cause massive brain trauma. After which it would be hard to tell them from the zombies. Yeager is a good example.
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Originally posted by cpxxx
You are of course right Gruny, 'only' 3000 dead 'deranged communist traitors and foreign communist revolutionary agents' is a small price to pay for freedom under a fascist regime. Really the people of Chile have a lot to thank Pinochet for. How lucky they were not to have ended up like Cuba under that dreadful Castro.
Yes all those western leftist intellecuals and liberal movie stars should be sent re-education camps so they may learn the error of their ways.
There's a place in Cuba (irony again) I believe... eh it's name escapes me now. I'm so glad we are agreeing more and more these days. It's fun :aok .
You just prove my point.
Pinochet kills 3000 in his revolution and 17 years later gives up power in a free election, to you this makes him evil.
Castro kills more in his revolution and spreads revolutionary conflicts and terror around the world while newver giving up his dictatorial power or having free elections and you defend him ...
What a bunch of BS..
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Originally posted by Torque
cpxx, actual facts can shatter their fragile reality and cause massive brain trauma. After which it would be hard to tell them from the zombies. Yeager is a good example.
Cmon Torque tell us how great Castro's ongoing murderous dictaorship is and how evil Pinochet was to give up his dictators power in a free election which he lost...
Cmon, give us the facts. Give us the results of Castrols last free election..
:rolleyes:
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How is old Castro doing since he took that nasty fall?
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Originally posted by soda72
How is old Castro doing since he took that nasty fall?
He's doing great Steven Spilebreg and Brarbara Streisand sent their personal dicutors over to look after him - just like they did when Pinochet was sick...
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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I'm still chuckling over Boroda getting his panties knotted over people maligning Stalin's character. :lol
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Originally posted by Arlo
I'm still chuckling over Boroda getting his panties knotted over people maligning Stalin's character. :lol
Well I'm sure boroda has been thurougly beaten for sligtinmg the name of the great stailn as a child - so his concern is only that you avoid the same fate as he when you misspeak..
;)
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
He's doing great Steven Spilebreg and Brarbara Streisand sent their personal dicutors over to look after him - just like they did when Pinochet was sick...
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Well look at the bright side, it could be worse Modanna could have flown there to a have a "support Castro concert" fund drive.
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Originally posted by SOB
Damn, they aren't accepting any more submissions for now. I guess I'll have to wait to post the "I'm Sorry" note I made.
(http://www.matthoffman.us/dl/imsrryblue.gif)
If you use Intardnet Exploder, highlight the pic. :) Sorry, it don't work in Firefox.
:aok
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Originally posted by soda72
Well look at the bright side, it could be worse Modanna could have flown there to a have a "support Castro concert" fund drive.
Yep, while Jane Fonda directs the aerial fireworks for the show.. :)
Sean Penn will join them too, after he cleans up Saddams bedpan...
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Yep, while Jane Fonda directs the aerial fireworks for the show.. :)
Sean Penn will join them too, after he cleans up Saddams bedpan...
:rofl
Don't forget MM... He could film a documentry about him..
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I know MM is a communist. He wears glasses and communism makes you go blind...
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Originally posted by TweetyBird
I know MM is a communist. He wears glasses and communism makes you go blind...
I think masturbating does that too...
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zoooooom
:D
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
You just prove my point.
Pinochet kills 3000 in his revolution and 17 years later gives up power in a free election, to you this makes him evil.
Castro kills more in his revolution and spreads revolutionary conflicts and terror around the world while newver giving up his dictatorial power or having free elections and you defend him ...
What a bunch of BS..
I don't remember defending Castro or calling Pinochet evil.
But have you considered they might both be evil. After all 3000 murders is big by any standard? I've never heard of the number of people Castro supposedly 'disappeared' covered up by the damm liberal media I suppose. But I have heard of one prison in Cuba......eh the name escapes me at the moment G something :lol where prisoners are held without trial and without access to lawyers. He says it's nothing to do with him. But who can believe him.
No Castros days are numbered. He may have outlasted every US president since Eishenhower but he needn't think he'll outlast more the 4 or 5 more. :rofl .
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I'm just pissed at the idiotic codlling Castro gets from the left while Pinochet, who was far less bad, who saved his country from a Castro allied Allende goverment, was on our side in the cold war, and even gave up his dictatorial power in a free election gets such a bad rap...
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Well yeah I kinda agree, I was yankin' your chain a bit. I'm in a mad mood tonight. But I still think Pinochet was evil.
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for the love of gawd... has anyone checked on weeping toast boy yet???? there still might be time to shut off the oven!
tweetie is saying that ideas don't kill people. I believe that he realizes that the ideal of communism allways results in horrendous numbers of deaths when it is executed to... least I hope he does..
lazs
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Too bad we couldnyt pull another Allende on Chavez and his communist buddies...
Yes, saved them from "communism" only to give them 20 years of fascism. Great. Showing your true colours again Grun?
I'm left wondering what research you've ever actually done on Allende, because as far as I can see he was about as communistic as the social democrats so prevelant in western democracies in 2004. Far from being a threat to his own people, the only group I can actually discern that had reason to fear him were the US business interests who were systematically asset stripping his country in the years leading up to his election.
Given that you're an clearly an expert on the matter, can you name any action taken by Allende that wasn't permitted him under Chilean law or the constitution?
It is especially telling that people like Eduardo Frei, his centre-right predecessor as president, or René Schneider, chief of Chile's military, would have nothing to do with the plots the CIA formented. Still, you managed to subvert the oldest latin-american democracy so nice work there. :rolleyes:
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Better 17 years of Pinochet, who as I'm sure you know gave up his power in a free democratic election, than risk Allende turning out like his good communist friend Castro and being dictator and chief executioner for life.
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This one can' be wrong, she's wearing a Guinness Tshirt! (http://www.sorryeverybody.com/upload_files/se51.jpg)
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Better 17 years of Pinochet, who as I'm sure you know gave up his power in a free democratic election, than risk Allende turning out like his good communist friend Castro and being dictator and chief executioner for life.
Sig matérial !
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Love yiur sig straffo!
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Better 17 years of Pinochet, who as I'm sure you know gave up his power in a free democratic election, than risk Allende turning out like his good communist friend Castro and being dictator and chief executioner for life.
:eek:
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Oh the fake moral outrage from the left wing eurocrowd...
Pinochet = bad....
Allende and Castro = saints....
Your love of global communism and its allies never fails to warm my heart...
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Oh the fake moral outrage from the left wing eurocrowd...
Pinochet = bad....
Allende and Castro = saints....
Your love of global communism and its allies never fails to warm my heart...
:rolleyes:
Nope it's just that it don't work like arithmetic
Bad - Bad = Bad and no like you think Bad - Bad = 0
(Allende or Castro) - Pinochet = Bad.
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Chirac, Castro, Saddam, Arafat.... all bad.
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Originally posted by straffo
Nope it's just that it don't work like arithmetic
Bad - Bad = Bad and no like you think Bad - Bad = 0
(Allende or Castro) - Pinochet = Bad.
Nope.
Pinochet - Allende = Chile saved from a path to communism, which is always a good thing for any country since communism is clearly the greatest and most destructive evil of all time - both to human flesh and the human spirit.
General Pinochet!
(http://www2.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/econ193/pinochet.jpg)
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Originally posted by NUKE
Chirac, Castro, Saddam, Arafat.... all bad.
If you feel Chirac compare to them I don't see why you can be pissed by anyone comparing Bush to Hitler afterall you're also guilty of stupidity.
GRUN I don't know if you are right or not when saying Pinochet saved Chili from comunist and no one will ever now as it did not happen.
The only think sure is that Pinochet regime was far from being a democraty and a paradise on this planet.
Comparing something that happened to something that could have happened is a not really logical.
PS : note that I'm not saying comunism would have been better for Chili.
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Who's this?
(http://www.sorryeverybody.com/upload_files/se52.jpg)
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Of course communism did not fully happend in Chile, we owe that fact to General Pinochet - he stopped Allende and his allies from going all the way.
As for Pinochet's Chile being a paradise, I have no illusions about a military dictaorship, however that is clearly better than communsim and clearly better than a Chile aligned with the USSR, Cuba and North Korea acting as a beached for communst revolution or other influence in south america. So I clearly prefer that Chile was allied with the west under Pinochet rather than Allendes turn towards the communists. Also lets not forget that Pinochet gave up his power in a free election, unlike say oh Castro who was Allendes best buddy, model and political confidant...
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yep :)
but :
Avec des si et des mais, on mettrait Paris dans une bouteille.(With ifs and buts, one would put Paris in a bottle.)
"If ifs and ands were pots and pans there'd be no work for tinkers' hands."
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Pinochet is a real angel... (http://www.amnesty.org.uk/news/pinochet/report.html)
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Frigging amazing ! :D
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Hell, let's whack Blair too, he's a socialist which makes him a communist !!! He must be buddies with Castro !!! Evil Blair !!!
Fricking sickening..
Hey Grun, what exaclly was wrong with Saddam anyway ? So yeah, he killed few hundered thousand people, but he saved Iraq from communism !!! And Islamists !!! What a fricking visionary !!!
Any chance you could get a consistent idea ? Either freedom and democracy or "**** all we can do what we like". Can't have both.
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Where is your angel site about Castro saw?
:rolleyes:
As for a communist dictatorship Germany allied with (read: controlled by) the USSR and Stalin in the 1930s I can only see that being far more destructive in the long run than even the terrors of WW2.. You would have two evil militant totalitarian dictorships working in concert to dominate Europe instead of two totalitarian dictatorship beating the living crap out of each other for 4 years... Too bad only the Nazis were destroyed by WW2, it would have been great if communism ended right then and there along with the nazi scum...
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FdSki Allende wasnt just some european social democrat and early 1970s Chile wasnt quite some stable mundane modern west european democracy. Chile was a deeply devided country on the brink of civil war beteeen right and left wing fanatics. Allenda was doing the usual communist thiong, nationalizing industries, turninmg sharply left, forging close alliences with the USSR, Cuba and North Korea. Left wing fanatics in Alledes circles were getting out of control and plotting violent revolution etc etc, the country was a mess headed for civil war and possible domination by global communism. I'm very very glad it never got there.
But hey I know you gotta defend Allende and Castro, its what you guys do...
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Originally posted by GScholz
Really Grun, this is beyond deluded.
Not if you examine it as a choice between two unpleasnt outcomes in a deeply troubled and divided country headed towards civil war - which is exactly what chile war circa 1973. So if the choce is between a Chile dominated by communism and aligned with the USSR acting as base for Castro to spread communst revolution in South America or a Chile run by a pro western Pinochet military government then I'm all for Pinochet. Cold war and all that you know...
Thats basically what it comes down to for me, but of course then I add some hyperbolic hero worship of Pinochet to piss of leftists and highlight their hypocritical adoration of dictators like Castro in contrast to their hysterical hatred for Pinochet whoose crimes are far less bad in every conceivable way...
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Flash news: Cold war is over...
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Originally posted by Saintaw
Flash news: Cold war is over...
No chit.
But we are discussing events that took place between 1973 and 1989.. So cold war considerations are quite approipriate..
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Originally posted by GScholz
"Military government", I remember a time where we used to call that a "military regime". Funny how language gives you away. However, you supporting fascism over communism isn't much of a surprise.
exactly..
I wonder what the good ole'USA interest were down there in south America.. I mean, what do those guys really have a lot of??
Its always something... Either the Dole fruit company or some other corperate interest. There is usually 'another' reason that the USA attempts to change things in south america..
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Originally posted by GScholz
"Military government", I remember a time where we used to call that a "military regime". Funny how language gives you away. However, you supporting fascism over communism isn't much of a surprise.
Semantics... I have called it military dictaorship in another post just a few minutes ago, so you really dont have point there.. What does my language give away when I call Pinochet's rule a military dictaorship???
Yep I hate communism, its clearely the most destructive and evil thing of the past century. If the choice is between a pro western fascist dictator and a pro USSR communist dictator during the cold war in vital nation then I choose Pinochet..
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Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
exactly..
I wonder what the good ole'USA interest were down there in south America.. I mean, what do those guys really have a lot of??
Its always something... Either the Dole fruit company or some other corperate interest. There is usually 'another' reason that the USA attempts to change things in south america..
Copper was the main inustrial concer, Allende like most communists nationalized most major industries. The wider political concern was Chile being used as communist base to lauch revoltionary wars and communist influence in South America - basically cold war issues. Thankfully that did not happend in Chile as the commies wanted.
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Oh yes, the good old domino theory that never quite worked out.
So in absence of evil communist USSR, what exacly is the Chavez's fault at this point other then being an ******* ?
How are we justified in overthrowing him in the name of freedom and democracy ?
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wotan... that was really funny. I think the rest of the countries ought to appolodgize for being insignificant.
If they tried harder then who we elected wouldn't be so important.
lazs
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If there is a substantive difference between communists and facists it would be news to me to hear it. I will admit that facists tend to have snappier uniforms though.
Hooligan
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women love snappy dressers.
lazs
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
As for a communist dictatorship Germany allied with (read: controlled by) the USSR and Stalin in the 1930s I can only see that being far more destructive in the long run than even the terrors of WW2.. You would have two evil militant totalitarian dictorships working in concert to dominate Europe instead of two totalitarian dictatorship beating the living crap out of each other for 4 years... Too bad only the Nazis were destroyed by WW2, it would have been great if communism ended right then and there along with the nazi scum...
Germany controlled by USSR in 1930s...
Grun, mind-extenders that you use are not good for your health. Next time you'll say that US and Germany together with the whole democratic world fought evil Russians on their shaggy mounts to save Western civilisation from Asian hordes of Jewish bolsheviks.
You think communism is the greatest evil because USSR opposed Western financial and political interests, while nazism didn't. OTOH some Slavonic nations who were not allies of Hitler and his gang know for sure that nazis wanted to completely eliminate them...
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Originally posted by GScholz
Interesting. So if you were around back in WWII, you would have been a Yugoslav Nazi collaborator rather than a Communist resistance fighter. Learn something new about people every day.
Strange you didn't understand it before. BTW, so-called "Coratia" was a Hitler's ally during WWII.
Grun is always repeating what dr. Goebbels said. Strange that all Western anti-communist propaganda is based on his great works.
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Ah comon now Momus, lets not create more zombies than is required. Who will take care of their cats when they start to wonder?
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If my mom doesn’t decide that I might infringe on her fun and kill me in a few months, I'll grow up vote to protect the right to kill my children in the future.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/407_1100280336_se2159.jpg)
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Originally posted by GScholz
Interesting. So if you were around back in WWII, you would have been a Yugoslav Nazi collaborator rather than a Communist resistance fighter. Learn something new about people every day.
Nice try but no cigar. Yes, Croatia welcomed the german invasion in April 1941 because of the generally good memories of the old austro hungarian empire days and our people hoped that the germans would free us from a yugoslavia we felt was too dominiated by the serbs. The initial resistance was indeed by socialist anti fascists and the communists but when germany started carving up our country and giving it to the italians and bringing in the loony ustashe exiles like pavelich from italy to run the country a much wider group of people from all political viewpoints started to resist out of pure nationalist interest - I'd be one of them.
I have a question for you, do you prefer that Chile went towards the communist opression and to act as a base for communism in south america during the cold war?
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Originally posted by fd ski
Oh yes, the good old domino theory that never quite worked out.
So in absence of evil communist USSR, what exacly is the Chavez's fault at this point other then being an ******* ?
How are we justified in overthrowing him in the name of freedom and democracy ?
I actually kinda like that bastige Chavez, hes a great character, but we still should have deposed him and we almost did... Just think of that CIA attempt to oust him a few years ago as a much more vigorous version of the sort of regime change attituides many euro liberals on this BBS have expressed on this board. ;)
BTW Venezuela has masses of oil...
:lol