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Title: One Last Stab For Asscroft
Post by: SOB on November 11, 2004, 09:44:31 AM
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http://www.statesmanjournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041111/STATE/411110348/1042

Governor criticizes Ashcroft's request

The U.S. attorney general asked the high court to end Oregon's assisted-suicide law

BY BRAD CAIN
The Associated Press
November 11, 2004

Oregon Gov. Ted Kulongoski criticized Attorney General John Ashcroft for asking the Supreme Court to snuff out Oregon's assisted-suicide law only hours before Ashcroft stepped down from office.

"It is unfortunate that one of Attorney General Ashcroft's last official acts was to file this petition," Kulongoski said after Ashcroft asked the court Tuesday to block the nation's only law allowing doctors to help terminally ill patients die more quickly.

Kulongoski, who had urged Ashcroft not to file the appeal, said that Oregon voters twice have endorsed assisted suicide and that "it's past time for this administration to focus on ways to work with Oregon -- not against us."

Since 1998, more than 170 people have used Oregon's assisted- suicide law to end their lives. Most had cancer.

Ashcroft's appeal had been expected since May, when a lower court ruled that the federal government could not punish Oregon doctors who prescribed lethal doses of federally controlled drugs.

The Bush administration has argued that assisted suicide is not a "legitimate medical purpose" and that doctors take an oath to heal patients, not help them die.

Legal experts interviewed Tuesday said that they doubted that the court would agree to hear the case, given that, in a 1997 ruling, the court said that states could decide the assisted-suicide issue for themselves.

Oregon's law, known as the Death With Dignity Act, lets patients with less than six months to live request a lethal dose of drugs after two doctors confirm the diagnosis and determine the person's mental competence to make the request.

So long sweetheart bag, I hope you get strip searched at the airport on your way back home.
Title: One Last Stab For Asscroft
Post by: Nash on November 11, 2004, 09:56:24 AM
He's got a grudge against dead people. They make powerful political foes.
Title: One Last Stab For Asscroft
Post by: Ripsnort on November 11, 2004, 09:57:22 AM
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Originally posted by Nash
He's got a grudge against dead people. They make powerful political foes.

:rofl :aok
Title: One Last Stab For Asscroft
Post by: Yeager on November 11, 2004, 10:23:19 AM
it just has to be said:

ASHCROFT IS HIMMLER!!!!!!!!OH JEEBUS!!!!!!!!!

as for the terminally ill, why not just put them down the old fashioned way?
Title: One Last Stab For Asscroft
Post by: lazs2 on November 11, 2004, 11:25:26 AM
I don't get it... why can't I just put down my own friends and relatives without those quacks butting in?   One shot in the head works well on dogs that are sick or just troublesome..  

sheesh...doctors leave sponges and stuff in people..

lazs
Title: One Last Stab For Asscroft
Post by: rpm on November 11, 2004, 12:39:48 PM
Lazs, did you forget your meds today or something?
Title: Re: One Last Stab For Asscroft
Post by: SLO on November 11, 2004, 07:33:59 PM
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Originally posted by SOB
So long sweetheart bag, I hope you get strip searched at the airport on your way back home.



hmm SOB, that sweetheart bag is gonna like getting strip searched
Title: One Last Stab For Asscroft
Post by: Holden McGroin on November 11, 2004, 07:53:11 PM
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Kulongoski, who had urged Ashcroft not to file the appeal, said that Oregon voters twice have endorsed assisted suicide and that "it's past time for this administration to focus on ways to work with Oregon -- not against us."  


Oregon is a blue state... what did Governor Ted expect?
Title: One Last Stab For Asscroft
Post by: demaw1 on November 11, 2004, 08:03:01 PM
Lazs , you need three infallible doctors opinions to put down an animal .


 RPM.....wish I could find the right meds.....h e h e
Title: One Last Stab For Asscroft
Post by: capt. apathy on November 11, 2004, 08:23:25 PM
I always found him a strange pick for Bush.  if Bush really means what he says about keeping the feds out of state issues, you'd think he'd have tightened the leash on Ashcroft and his efforts to over ride state laws.
Title: One Last Stab For Asscroft
Post by: DREDIOCK on November 12, 2004, 12:41:19 AM
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Originally posted by Nash
He's got a grudge against dead people. They make powerful political foes.


Well remember, there were several instances of dead people registering to vote for this past election.
One did it even after he had been dead 20 years already

think we may even have a few on the boards here LOL
Title: One Last Stab For Asscroft
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on November 12, 2004, 01:45:03 AM
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Well remember, there were several instances of dead people registering to vote for this past election.
One did it even after he had been dead 20 years already

think we may even have a few on the boards here LOL


I think Nash was referring to the fact that Ashcroft was beaten in the race for US Senate by a dead man just before Bush named him Att. General.  He was in a race for a Missouri senate seat against former MO Gov. Mel Carnahan.  Carnahan died in a plane crash just weeks before the election.  People in MO liked him so much, they elected him posthumously and his wife served for him at the request of the party.  She was defeated in the next election.
Title: One Last Stab For Asscroft
Post by: lazs2 on November 12, 2004, 09:42:32 AM
Oh... I thought it was because in blue states the dead rise and vote against him like zombies every election.

did someone mention "infallible doctors"?

lazs
Title: One Last Stab For Asscroft
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on November 12, 2004, 04:13:19 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
Oh... I thought it was because in blue states the dead rise and vote against him like zombies every election.

did someone mention "infallible doctors"?

lazs


Hehe.  I wont deny there's been some ......questionable..... registrations in St. Louis from time to time.  Still, if I died and Ashcroft got elected for anything I'd probably come back to haunt any of my relatives that voted for him.  The day he lost an election race to a dead man was not only a happy day for me, it was funny as hell.  Bush had to ruin it for me by making him Att. General.  Damn him.