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Title: Scott Peterson Found Guilty of Murder...
Post by: Bodhi on November 12, 2004, 03:33:03 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/11/12/peterson.verdict/index.html

So do you think he really did it?
Title: Scott Peterson Found Guilty of Murder...
Post by: NUKE on November 12, 2004, 03:40:26 PM
Oh yeah, he did it.

Look at his emotionless face as he was interviewed on TV. The guy had ZERO expression on his face during his TV interviews.

Guilty and destined for hell.
Title: Scott Peterson Found Guilty of Murder...
Post by: SLO on November 12, 2004, 03:42:27 PM
I don't think he's gonna get the Death penalty...

no DIRECT evidence...IMHO

jail time for him...
Title: Scott Peterson Found Guilty of Murder...
Post by: narsus on November 12, 2004, 04:14:20 PM
SLO i agree with you, probably just jail time, i would be very surprised if he got the death penalty
Title: Scott Peterson Found Guilty of Murder...
Post by: Saurdaukar on November 12, 2004, 04:16:37 PM
Im surprised... I didnt think the prosecution even came close to making a case... everything they had was circumstantial... dont think they proved he did it "beyond a reasonable doubt."

I still think he did it based on that because its logical... but logic doesnt substitute for evidence.
Title: Scott Peterson Found Guilty of Murder...
Post by: AWMac on November 12, 2004, 04:23:29 PM
He'll soon become someones Biyatch!!!!

:D
Title: Scott Peterson Found Guilty of Murder...
Post by: DREDIOCK on November 12, 2004, 04:49:27 PM
Anyone else hearing the song "Tom Dooley" in their head?

He'll get death to start out with then after all apeals and a second triial he'll get life
Title: Scott Peterson Found Guilty of Murder...
Post by: FUNKED1 on November 12, 2004, 06:02:28 PM
How can it be two counts of murder?  Why aren't abortionists subject to murder charges?
Title: Scott Peterson Found Guilty of Murder...
Post by: Saurdaukar on November 12, 2004, 06:15:39 PM
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
How can it be two counts of murder?  Why aren't abortionists subject to murder charges?


Because women have a RIGHT to choose whether or not they want to murder their children, Funky!

Where have you been?
Title: Scott Peterson Found Guilty of Murder...
Post by: FUNKED1 on November 12, 2004, 06:18:02 PM
I forgot about that.

Mothers - May choose to murder children.
Fathers - Have no rights at all - HOW DARE YOU!
Title: Scott Peterson Found Guilty of Murder...
Post by: Vudak on November 12, 2004, 06:30:08 PM
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
How can it be two counts of murder?  Why aren't abortionists subject to murder charges?


I thought Laci was far-along in the pregnancy?  Far enough where abortion wouldn't be a legal option (in most cases)anymore?

Seriously though, does anyone have an answer to this?  At what stage would Scott Peterson only be able to be charged with one count of murder instead of two, assuming Laci was pregnant?  Is there such a scenario?

Just curious is all.
Title: Scott Peterson Found Guilty of Murder...
Post by: DREDIOCK on November 12, 2004, 06:34:06 PM
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
I forgot about that.

Mothers - May choose to murder children.
Fathers - Have no rights at all - HOW DARE YOU!


Exactly why its a WOMANS issue and men should stay out of it.
Because men dont and wont have any say in the matter one way or the other.

In the end it doesnt matter cause its not going away  anytime soon. Even with Bush in office and even if he gets the judges he wants appointed in.

But this is a thread about Scott Peterson not abortion
Title: Scott Peterson Found Guilty of Murder...
Post by: DREDIOCK on November 12, 2004, 06:35:48 PM
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Originally posted by Vudak
I thought Laci was far-along in the pregnancy?  Far enough where abortion wouldn't be a legal option (in most cases)anymore?

Seriously though, does anyone have an answer to this?  At what stage would Scott Peterson only be able to be charged with one count of murder instead of two, assuming Laci was pregnant?  Is there such a scenario?

Just curious is all.


Not sure if that is the exact reasoning behind it but yes  Laci was far along. 9 months in fact.
Cant get much farther along then that
Title: Scott Peterson Found Guilty of Murder...
Post by: lasersailor184 on November 12, 2004, 06:41:25 PM
I'm actually rather scared that he was found guilty.  No real evidence given except for how he acted after it happened.  And that didn't really prove anything.


Murderer or not, I don't think he was convictable.  That's what scared me.
Title: Scott Peterson Found Guilty of Murder...
Post by: TweetyBird on November 12, 2004, 06:44:20 PM
Its state specific, and varies when the death of a fetus is considered another homicide. But I think 9 moths is considered a separate homicide in any state (though I wouldn't bet on it).
Title: Scott Peterson Found Guilty of Murder...
Post by: jEEZY on November 12, 2004, 06:55:46 PM
How can it be two counts of murder? Why aren't abortionists subject to murder charges?
    


Research can answer all your questions.  A law school professor once admonished my class that until you read the law, you cannot have an opinion about it.


Cal Pen Code § 187 (2004)

§ 187.  Murder defined

   (a) Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being, or a fetus, with malice aforethought.
 
   (b) This section shall not apply to any person who commits an act that results in the death of a fetus if any of the following apply:
 
   (1) The act complied with the Therapeutic Abortion Act, Article 2 (commencing with Section 123400) of Chapter 2 of Part 2 of Division 106 of the Health and Safety Code.
 
   (2) The act was committed by a holder of a physician's and surgeon's certificate, as defined in the Business and Professions Code, in a case where, to a medical certainty, the result of childbirth would be death of the mother of the fetus or where her death from childbirth, although not medically certain, would be substantially certain or more likely than not.
 
   (3) The act was solicited, aided, abetted, or consented to by the mother of the fetus.
 
   (c) Subdivision (b) shall not be construed to prohibit the prosecution of any person under any other provision of law.
Title: he as was OJ, is guilty as the day is long ...
Post by: Eagler on November 12, 2004, 07:26:55 PM
but he was the wrong color to be found innocent of a double murder in CA ....
Title: Scott Peterson Found Guilty of Murder...
Post by: FUNKED1 on November 12, 2004, 07:55:22 PM
Thanks Jeezy.
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(3) The act was solicited, aided, abetted, or consented to by the mother of the fetus.

So murder is OK if mom says so.  Good times.
Title: Scott Peterson Found Guilty of Murder...
Post by: NUKE on November 12, 2004, 08:04:21 PM
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Thanks Jeezy.

So murder is OK if mom says so.  Good times.


just like abortion.
Title: Scott Peterson Found Guilty of Murder...
Post by: Saurdaukar on November 12, 2004, 11:30:17 PM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184

Murderer or not, I don't think he was convictable.  That's what scared me.


Im not the only one then.
Title: Scott Peterson Found Guilty of Murder...
Post by: LePaul on November 12, 2004, 11:42:05 PM
So with old Jury foreman, no verdict for days.

Throw two people out and verdict in 1 day?  Wow.

I'd like to see the guy get a nice cold needle and a send off...but I'm also pretty curious what went on in that jury room
Title: Scott Peterson Found Guilty of Murder...
Post by: DREDIOCK on November 13, 2004, 08:22:26 AM
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Im surprised... I didnt think the prosecution even came close to making a case... everything they had was circumstantial... dont think they proved he did it "beyond a reasonable doubt."

I still think he did it based on that because its logical... but logic doesnt substitute for evidence.


My Wife followed this FAR more closely then I did.

From what she was telling me it wasnt just that the entire case was circumstantial.
But it was circumstancial every single step of the way.
Now its one thing if there is circumstantial evidence in one or two steps. But in all of them?
The laws of probability were simply too much against him to reach any  other verdict.
I know I personally didnt hear anything that would lead me to think it could have happened any other way.

Unlike the OJ case which I watched in its entirety.
 While I knew he was guilty, Based on the law I would have had to enter the same verdict they did.
There there was a reasonable doubt. It was unlikely. But it was reasonable.
Title: Scott Peterson Found Guilty of Murder...
Post by: lazs2 on November 13, 2004, 09:37:02 AM
Do you think there might be riots?   we never get any good riots over here.

lazs
Title: Scott Peterson Found Guilty of Murder...
Post by: Airhead on November 13, 2004, 10:32:01 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
Do you think there might be riots?   we never get any good riots over here.

lazs


Lazs, did you see that crowd of man-hating butch dykes, lesbians and abused wives gathered in the Courthouse parking lot? If that verdict woulda come back "not guilty" you'd have seen a riot, no doubt. As it was they had quite the impromptu celebration with lots of cheering, crying and, best of all, sneering- the same way Beatle sneers at Americans- at any males in sight.
Title: Scott Peterson Found Guilty of Murder...
Post by: beet1e on November 14, 2004, 01:00:15 PM
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Originally posted by Airhead
As it was they had quite the impromptu celebration with lots of cheering, crying and, best of all, sneering- the same way Beatle sneers at Americans- at any males in sight.
??
Title: Scott Peterson Found Guilty of Murder...
Post by: Airhead on November 14, 2004, 01:19:44 PM
Just helping you out with the ol' anti-American reputation, Beet. ;)
Title: Scott Peterson Found Guilty of Murder...
Post by: beet1e on November 14, 2004, 01:43:30 PM
I think Stephanie liked me. ;)
Title: Scott Peterson Found Guilty of Murder...
Post by: WhiteHawk on November 14, 2004, 01:49:38 PM
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Originally posted by SLO
I don't think he's gonna get the Death penalty...

no DIRECT evidence...IMHO

jail time for him...



Hes gonna fry.
:aok
Title: Scott Peterson Found Guilty of Murder...
Post by: WhiteHawk on November 14, 2004, 01:50:30 PM
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Originally posted by LePaul
So with old Jury foreman, no verdict for days.

Throw two people out and verdict in 1 day?  Wow.

I'd like to see the guy get a nice cold needle and a send off...but I'm also pretty curious what went on in that jury room


2 jurors wanted to see the guy walk.  there are of course, 1 in every crowd and then 1 that wants to be different.
Title: Scott Peterson Found Guilty of Murder...
Post by: 2Slow on November 14, 2004, 02:07:36 PM
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Originally posted by Vudak
I thought Laci was far-along in the pregnancy?  Far enough where abortion wouldn't be a legal option (in most cases)anymore?

Seriously though, does anyone have an answer to this?  At what stage would Scott Peterson only be able to be charged with one count of murder instead of two, assuming Laci was pregnant?  Is there such a scenario?

Just curious is all.


When someone convinces me that the soul does not mate with the body until the child draws a breath.  Abortion or prenatal killing equal infanticide in my book.  I think a womens right to birth control is contraception.  To call infanticide "Birth Control" is just a PC attempt to make it sound nicer.

Nuff Said
Title: Scott Peterson Found Guilty of Murder...
Post by: BUG_EAF322 on November 14, 2004, 02:19:55 PM
Who is scott peterson ???