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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: humble on November 14, 2004, 12:48:03 PM
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After spending a few moments (sadly all it took) in the joke called the CT how bout bulldozing it and starting over. I can think of a bunch of options...
1) a RPS arena, no perks just a 43 and earlier or some such till the plane set fills out.....
2) a GV only arena....its a bigger and bigger part of the game.
3) An "airpower" only arena...no captures...but allow bases to be bombed to rubbles
4) A "capture the flag arena" ...you win by knowcking out the other guys HQ...basically the fighters support the strat weenies...yuk
5) a fighter only arena...no capture no buffs....
Basically you've got an arena the almost no one uses as is...why not look at something thats both different and more appealing...
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What's wrong with the CT?? Last 2 versions have been ok (Finnland & Okinawa).
I wouldn't mind an early-war arena, though (39-42?).
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T-O-D
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I'd be very interested in a rolling plane set, particularly if it were from 1940 to 1943.
Someone want to suggest a timeline for it?
Would the plane set be according to country? If there were two countries in the RPS arena, would one get Axis planes, the other Allied? I'd assume so, since what we're looking for is historical match-ups.
MRPLUTO
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humble STFU untill u fly in the CT more then 5 time how about flyin in there almost everyday for three years THEN u can talk watermelon about it. untill then how about u go back to the MA and trash talk the gangbanging, cherrypicking, trashtalking, and vulching that goes on in there. oh no not the MA where spit-tards can fight spit-tards. if u dont like the CT noones forceing u to fly there. most ppl fly in the CT then the TA or DA y not bulldoze them, no we cant doze then cuz they allow u to fly any plane u want.
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This could all be addressed by map makers. With such large maps available why not have some areas with restricted plane sets and others based on a good ground war?
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I think AH is in dyer need of another arena. I wouldn't bulldoze the CT because it has a small handfull of fanatics that seem to enjoy numbers under 10.
I do think we need a fighter arena, thus end the war between the furballers and the tool shed heros.
In the MA every time a decent furball gets going, some hero can't stand it and has to come in and stop it.
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pretty sure that could be addressed in the map making process too...
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The problem with addressing this using maps is it diffuses the people in the arena rather than pitting them against each other in one concentrated area.
In an arena like the MA where you have enough people on, it might work, but not in the smaller arenas
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Originally posted by TrueKill
humble STFU untill u fly in the CT more then 5 time how about flyin in there almost everyday for three years THEN u can talk watermelon about it. untill then how about u go back to the MA and trash talk the gangbanging, cherrypicking, trashtalking, and vulching that goes on in there. oh no not the MA where spit-tards can fight spit-tards. if u dont like the CT noones forceing u to fly there. most ppl fly in the CT then the TA or DA y not bulldoze them, no we cant doze then cuz they allow u to fly any plane u want.
Actually I've spent plenty of time in the CT....
And its guys like you who ARE the problem in the CT....all in all (with a notable exception or two) your squad is the most classless bunch I've ever run into....this Diareaha of the keyboard is par for the course for you guys. you cant even post without a bunch of foul language. Truthfully the CT was a great place till you and the rest of the "wannabe's" showed up. You couldnt gangbang/vulch/landgrab in the MA because you werent good enough so you brought it all to the CT.
I'd love the CT to climb back out of the abyss, currently it gets almost no use (I'd guess 3-5% at best)...
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
This could all be addressed by map makers. With such large maps available why not have some areas with restricted plane sets and others based on a good ground war?
I'd love to see it addressed in some way....I'm actually pro CT...but thats the CT as it was 2 years ago...
A RPS or early war PS might get it fired up again. some type of change like eaglr suggested with no capture/porking might also work....but it sure seems to have gone the wrong way:(
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Originally posted by mars01
I think AH is in dyer need of another arena. I wouldn't bulldoze the CT because it has a small handfull of fanatics that seem to enjoy numbers under 10.
I do think we need a fighter arena, thus end the war between the furballers and the tool shed heros.
In the MA every time a decent furball gets going, some hero can't stand it and has to come in and stop it.
I have no clue what type of resources are required to keep an arena up and running. If we can add more great, otherwise why keep an arena up (as is) that currently appeals to less than 5% of the player base?
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Originally posted by humble
Actually I've spent plenty of time in the CT....
And its guys like you who ARE the problem in the CT....all in all (with a notable exception or two) your squad is the most classless bunch I've ever run into....this Diareaha of the keyboard is par for the course for you guys. you cant even post without a bunch of foul language. Truthfully the CT was a great place till you and the rest of the "wannabe's" showed up. You couldnt gangbang/vulch/landgrab in the MA because you werent good enough so you brought it all to the CT.
I'd love the CT to climb back out of the abyss, currently it gets almost no use (I'd guess 3-5% at best)...
Humble. You are right. Its not the arena, its the people in it, (with a few exceptions)
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I have no clue what type of resources are required to keep an arena up and running. If we can add more great, otherwise why keep an arena up (as is) that currently appeals to less than 5% of the player base?
I agree Humble, but I havn't played the CT, due to the anemic numbers and issues in finding the actual fight, in a while so I can't speak of it. I do look at the numbers most nights to see if there is anything going on and I rarely see more than 5 or 10 people in there at any one time.
The other thing that turns me off about the CT is the sense that the community there thinks they are so much better than the rest and their distaste for anyone that flies anywhere else. I mostly garnered this from the BBs and responses like the one you got above is a good example.
Combine the two and I'd rather put up with the MA. hahaha.
I would honestly like to see the DA, catered more towards a Fighter Arena with a map that facilitates the furball and still allows dueling to take place on the outskirts, rather than what we have now, which is a map that facilitates dueling and not furballing.
The A1 is fair but not the answer.
Ohhh well I know most of this doesn't matter, I just hope TOD comes out soon so the MA Toolshed Heros have somewhere to go. I guess I'm an optimist. hahahaha
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my Idea
make a map like that one with tank town
But only enable early war planes so it can be a early plane town as well as a tank town still
here are the planes i think would be best
P40B
A6M2
109E-4
F4F
HURR-1
SPIT-1
BN5
and that small japan dive bomber
i think some very light dive bombers can be in the early war town such as the japan torpedo bomber and dive bomber
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most ppl fly in the CT then the TA or DA y not bulldoze them, no we cant doze then cuz they allow u to fly any plane u want.
sometimes I get some good laughs from post like this :)
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if ya want a really good laugh u should hear Arlo singin:lol
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I wou;ld luv to see rotating,branching maps..Starting early war planes..And depending who(axis or allies) wins map..The next map follows a historical context and planeset...We have many great maps and linking them together would make it a great war arena.
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Sirloin, that would be a great idea...kind of an ongoing TOD type thing but without the "single life"....my only negative is this a simulation not a reenactment....some of the intrique is the non historical matchups....Hog vs pony or 190 vs 109 for example...however the innovation occuring the war really creates at least 3 clear time frames....the very early1939-1941 period....the 1942-1943 era which is probably most competative...then the "late war" 1944-45...if you wanted to add the prototypes you'd have a 4th block...
Personally I'd love to see F7F in the game even though it was never deployed it was operationally deployed in april 1944. In the current arena its really almost undeployable....simply would dominate anything (even F8F)...obviously it'll be along time before we see it or Do-335...but an arena suitable for the whatifs would be great..also would love to see the airwar over spain as well on the flip side...
I'd just love to the CT tinkered with in an attempt to attract greater interest....
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Originally posted by humble
I'd just love to the CT tinkered with in an attempt to attract greater interest....
I'm really missing something here, Humble.
Judging by your earlier posts here, and a thread you began in the CT forum, your objection to the CT isn't to the plane sets, it's to the way people are flying. Nothing I've seen here seems likely to change that at all.
People do tinker with the CT. Fly there a bit more frequently, and you'll see it happen. Some innovations work, some are abject failures, but there are always new ideas (your RPS idea, for example has occurred a number of times within one week's setup, newer models being introduced and older models withdrawn as the week progresses).
Limited plane sets, unless they are March, 1945 plane sets, have limited appeal, particularly in a two-side, Axis v. Allies arrangement. Numbers in any arena set up in this manner will consequently be limited, no matter what you call the place. Unless you are somehow going to restrict access to those players who share your views of how planes should be flown and combat conducted, you are bound to get people who irritate you in these qualities. Don't see any way you can change that.
- oldman
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oldman....
I'll certainly continue to fly the CT...I used to fly it alot. Over the last 18 months it certainly went down hill badly from my perspective. I almost never see more than 10-15 folks in there. Down from 35+ most of the time when I flew it. If you look thru the various posts from others who have tried the CT recently it's obvious there are issues. The whole personality has changed. You dont need to keep the "restricted set" or two side format. What you need to do is create a new arena with greater appeal. Be it a GV arena or a "early war" arena or a "RPS" arena. Last night when I logged in MA was 490 something and CT was 14 I think. I bet a GV arena (maybe with ground support AC like Stuka/Il-2/A-20) would have 50-60 players.
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Humble,
The the nonsense on chl 1 has died down for the most part. Shane still goes on his usual banter but thats expected and harmless. I am finding the CT becoming more passive when it comes to engaging. Some Upping in groups of 4 or 5 circling above the field to 20k and not coming down to engage unless the enemy is already engaged.
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Originally posted
I am finding the CT becoming more passive when it comes to engaging. Some Upping in groups of 4 or 5 circling above the field to 20k and not coming down to engage unless the enemy is already engaged.
I have always seen this in the CT within the last year anyway, and low and behold saw it this morning in the MA, with the limited number of players online.......me and ET666 nailed like 7 or 8 baddys in 1 vs 1 fights so then they would not engage unless it was 3 on 1, and them having at least 5k alt advantage..........is weird to see so many timid flyers.............how does one expect to become better if they do not force themselves to jump in the cage and duke it out? I tryed to taunt them to go and get more alt ;) to make sure they had enough, but then they resulted to Zoom Bang Bang Extend for 1/2 an hour ...LOL I ran all my fuel out and ditched and logged........
I don't mind 3 on1 and I did not complain about the 3 on 1 , to me it is good practice, but 4 would have been a lil over the top..............
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personally i find the CT to be a quiet and refreshing experience when i drop in once a week or so.