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Title: atlantis found?
Post by: hyena426 on November 14, 2004, 02:17:10 PM
ya,,just seen this on my online news this morning anyone else hear anything about it? here is a link to it  http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20041114113309990012


wild if they really found somthing,,sounds very interesting


Updated: 02:42 PM EST
U.S. Researcher Says He's Found Atlantis Off Cyprus

LIMASSOL, Cyprus (Nov. 14) - A U.S. researcher on Sunday claimed he had found the lost civilization of Atlantis in the watery deep off Cyprus -- adding his theory to a mystery which has baffled explorers for centuries.

   
 
An artist's rendition of what the Temple of Atlantis may look like underwater.  
   

Robert Sarmast says a Mediterranean basin was flooded in a deluge around 9,000 BC which submerged a rectangular land mass he believes was Atlantis, lying beneath sea level between Cyprus and Syria.

"We have definitely found it," said Sarmast, who led a team of explorers 50 miles or 80 kilometers off the south-east coast of Cyprus earlier this month.

But Cyprus' chief government archaeologist, Pavlos Flourentzos, was skeptical.

"More proof is necessary,'' he said.

"The myth of Atlantis has been around for ages and it is generally believed that, if it ever existed, it was somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean - hence its name," Flourentzos added. "But ancient cities and civilizations in the Mediterranean region, such as the Minoan civilization of Crete, have disappeared as a result of major volcanic eruptions and earthquakes. For all we know, Atlantis may well have existed in our region.''

Deep water sonar scanning had indicated man-made structures on a submerged hill, including a wall, a walled hill summit and deep trenches, he said. But further explorations were needed, he added.
Title: atlantis found?
Post by: vorticon on November 14, 2004, 02:24:19 PM
they're always finding atlantis. wasnt it under the sargasso sea last time?
Title: atlantis found?
Post by: john9001 on November 14, 2004, 02:33:56 PM
i know where atlanta is, but i'm not telling.
Title: atlantis found?
Post by: BUG_EAF322 on November 14, 2004, 02:37:14 PM
sounds like some broke sientists to get some money.

remembers me of a serie on discovery where some sientist got a boat full off equipment to find the monster off lochness

guess what they never found it

:rolleyes:
Title: atlantis found?
Post by: vorticon on November 14, 2004, 02:39:08 PM
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Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
sounds like some broke sientists to get some money.

remembers me of a serie on discovery where some sientist got a boat full off equipment to find the monster off lochness

guess what they never found it

:rolleyes:


or the thing on discovery where a egyptian wig expert figures out the nefertiti thing...
Title: atlantis found?
Post by: lasersailor184 on November 14, 2004, 02:55:54 PM
There are actually 3 atlantii.  One is in the mediteranean, one in the atlantic, and one just north of Madagascar.


Btw, evidence does point to a mass exodus of a huge highly advanced island way way back when.
Title: atlantis found?
Post by: hyena426 on November 14, 2004, 02:56:34 PM
ya,,i know they allways say they find it,,but any submerged city still has to be a cool find,,if its true!!
Title: atlantis found?
Post by: Dinger on November 14, 2004, 04:27:34 PM
no, it's not.
Did Plato ever go to Atlantis? How reliable of a source could he be? Did this guy even bother to pay attention to the manageable amount of archaeological research done on Cyprus? When I go to sleep at night, I snore directly above a "must visit" library of Cyprus archaeology, and funny, when I wake up in the morning, I see neither that dude nor his 49 companions down there.
Title: atlantis found?
Post by: DieAz on November 15, 2004, 04:05:48 AM
I read something somewhere,
That, from the writings describing Atlantis,etc. they concluded that Ireland is Atlantis. they were giving the evidence that the sinking was a reef.

if I remb right from a long time ago. some teacher said that it was seen sinking in one part of the world and heard in another part of the world. so I'm guessing something happened on a grand seismic scale, around that time.

lasersailor,  could you point me to where that info comes from.
3 Atlantii? and evidence of mass exodos?
Title: atlantis found?
Post by: DieAz on November 15, 2004, 04:38:13 AM
the article gave me an idea, so I did a search. found this

http://www.scotese.com/lastice.htm (http://www.scotese.com/lastice.htm)

http://www.scotese.com/moreinfo16.htm (http://www.scotese.com/moreinfo16.htm)

some ancient texts found in almost any culture, refers to floodings.

hmmmm interesting.

how much higher would sea level be, if all ice were to melt?
how much lower would sea level be, if it was at the peak of the last ice age?

grr blast your eyes Hyena, now ya started me on a quest to find some answers. GRRRRR   :p
Title: atlantis found?
Post by: hyena426 on November 15, 2004, 09:30:21 PM
lmao funny,,well i just seen it and figured i would see if anyone had any light to shed if it was true or not that a sunk city{maybe atlantis} was found,,,any sunk city is very interesting if it out at sea
Title: atlantis found?
Post by: RTStuka on November 15, 2004, 09:55:46 PM
To me the sinking of Atlantis reminds me of alot of other stories from long long ago in a land far far away. A major even happens but because of the lack of knowledge and credible evidence things get blown out of proportion.

Take the great flood recorded in the bible. When that happened people didnt think much exsisted outside of where they could travel so its entirely possible that the people of those days could have thought the whole world was flooded. For instance, when the mississippi has flooded in the past it consumed alot of ground, if those people only thought the world was as big as they could see and travel by foot ti would seem as if the world flooded.

To me its very possible that a large scale city was flooded and appeared to sink, but for all we know that city a thousand years later was no longer flooded and sits on dry land.
Title: atlantis found?
Post by: Vulcan on November 15, 2004, 10:13:12 PM
Best explanation I've seen for Atlantis is Thira, I'd thought this was pretty much accepted?
Title: atlantis found?
Post by: Vulcan on November 15, 2004, 10:17:12 PM
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Originally posted by RTStuka
To me the sinking of Atlantis reminds me of alot of other stories from long long ago in a land far far away. A major even happens but because of the lack of knowledge and credible evidence things get blown out of proportion.

Take the great flood recorded in the bible. When that happened people didnt think much exsisted outside of where they could travel so its entirely possible that the people of those days could have thought the whole world was flooded. For instance, when the mississippi has flooded in the past it consumed alot of ground, if those people only thought the world was as big as they could see and travel by foot ti would seem as if the world flooded.

To me its very possible that a large scale city was flooded and appeared to sink, but for all we know that city a thousand years later was no longer flooded and sits on dry land.


Most of the bible stories are based on "other" stories from previous religions/civilisations. iirc the latest great flood theory now focusses on the flooding of the Black Sea.
Title: atlantis found?
Post by: RTStuka on November 15, 2004, 10:47:17 PM
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Originally posted by Vulcan
Most of the bible stories are based on "other" stories from previous religions/civilisations. iirc the latest great flood theory now focusses on the flooding of the Black Sea.



Thats exactly my point, most of these stories we here are a result of the circumstances that surrounded them. With the lack of communication with any culture outside of your own and lack of knowledge of the size of the world it lead to things being taken as larger than they were. You must have seen the Disc. Channel show on the bible where the looked at all the major biblical events and how they could be explained, and if you didnt they discuss the flooding of the sea's theory.
Title: atlantis found?
Post by: Vulcan on November 16, 2004, 03:19:03 AM
Well Thira got nuked by the volcano it was sitting on. However if you returned to it - then it would have appeared it had slipped under the sea.
Title: atlantis found?
Post by: Dinger on November 16, 2004, 04:15:16 AM
Guys, don't let your positivism carry you away.  Plato told lots of stories in his dialogs, and he wasn't trying to give an accurate record of the past. The search for Atlantis is even worse than the search for Noah's ark. In neither case is the actual existence of the thing relevant to the story; but at least in Noah's case people take it on faith.  But if the Cyprus Tourism ORganization can give that guy $60k to claim atlantis is off the coast of Ayia Napa, maybe they can give me some money too....


(and don't believe the historical BS you see ont he Discovery Channel, or the Hitler Channel for that matter.  They want viewers, not historical accuracy).
Title: atlantis found?
Post by: Holden McGroin on November 16, 2004, 04:39:15 AM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
There are actually 3 atlantii.  One is in the mediteranean, one in the atlantic, and one just north of Madagascar.


Don't forget the one just outside of Tupelo Mississippi.
Title: atlantis found?
Post by: WilldCrd on November 16, 2004, 05:39:29 AM
didnt atlantis turn into a giat flying city and fly way out into space, landing on a remote planet in the pegasus galaxie, only to be submerged and protected by an advance forcefield? And you can only reach it by using a thing called a "stargate"

err wait....nevermind
Title: atlantis found?
Post by: lasersailor184 on November 16, 2004, 09:06:14 AM
I have a few books that go into it in detail, but have none of them on me.

However, a story from a person who came from one of the Atlantis is called The Island of Mu (or some such).