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Title: any word on formation for carrier borne bombers?
Post by: FDutchmn on November 15, 2004, 03:09:14 AM
HTC? is this in the works or is it shelved?
Title: any word on formation for carrier borne bombers?
Post by: Ghosth on November 15, 2004, 07:55:31 AM
I think thats a tough one FD.

If you look at the way drones behave on land, then try to convert them to take off from a CV. I think you'll find its going to be a LOT of work to get it to work right.

Of course I'd LOVE to see HT prove me wrong & release them with the next patch.

But I'm not sure even he has figured out a way out of this box.
Title: any word on formation for carrier borne bombers?
Post by: streetstang on November 15, 2004, 07:59:16 AM
OMG a TBM foramtion!!! So sweet would it be!

Maybe we could get 4 or 5 with the TBM? rather than three? hehehe Dont push it ya i know. :p

But oh man would it be sweet! hehehe Formation of TBMs! hehehe
Title: any word on formation for carrier borne bombers?
Post by: Balsy on November 15, 2004, 08:00:50 AM
GhostH, we all ready have airplanes taking off from abreast of the cv... so why not have the drones take off from the same "point".

:)
Title: any word on formation for carrier borne bombers?
Post by: Ghosth on November 15, 2004, 10:21:31 PM
Balsy, I think if it was that easy we'd of had it from the word go.
Title: any word on formation for carrier borne bombers?
Post by: beet1e on November 17, 2004, 04:10:57 AM
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Originally posted by streetstang
OMG a TBM foramtion!!! So sweet would it be!

Maybe we could get 4 or 5 with the TBM? rather than three? hehehe Dont push it ya i know. :p
More gaminess in the pipeline. :D
Title: any word on formation for carrier borne bombers?
Post by: Ghosth on November 17, 2004, 08:13:36 AM
Beetle sir, tis a GAME we play. What the heck did you expect BUT gaminess?

Go back into your hibernation chamber, stasis tube, cave, rock, whatever you crawled out of.

We are having fun here!
Title: any word on formation for carrier borne bombers?
Post by: beet1e on November 17, 2004, 08:36:51 AM
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Originally posted by Ghosth
Beetle sir, tis a GAME we play. What the heck did you expect BUT gaminess?

Go back into your hibernation chamber, stasis tube, cave, rock, whatever you crawled out of.

We are having fun here!
LOL Morph! You said that without moving your lips. ;)
Title: any word on formation for carrier borne bombers?
Post by: Furious on November 17, 2004, 11:38:26 AM
Fighters didn't fly around by themselves either.  I want all fighters to a have a finger four formation option; one of 'em gets shot down, I can just jump in the next one.

Why should the bombers be the only ones to get 3 lives to crap away down in the weeds?
Title: any word on formation for carrier borne bombers?
Post by: streetstang on November 17, 2004, 07:47:15 PM
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Originally posted by Ghosth
Beetle sir, tis a GAME we play. What the heck did you expect BUT gaminess?

Go back into your hibernation chamber, stasis tube, cave, rock, whatever you crawled out of.

We are having fun here!
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LOL Morph! You said that without moving your lips.


Beetle... Do you think before you write something? Or is talking out of your rear something normal for you?  

Dont be upset because you are you. The real tragedy here is the fact that you try so desprerately to fit in.
Title: any word on formation for carrier borne bombers?
Post by: Ghosth on November 18, 2004, 09:14:02 AM
FYI Mr Beetle sir.

Please realise that I am NOT Morph, I've been here LONGER than morph. I was here before YOU got here.

You can ask anyone else who's been here since beta who I am and they'll tell you.
Same name, same acct, no BS.

Next, I expect you to pony up 15 $, get back online, come into the DA so I can shoot you down for calling me morph.

Consider yourself slapped!

As the injured party I get to choose weapons. Yak9T's should do nicely.

Next time watch who you smear with that brush!

I'm not Morph, I'm not a morph groupy., I'm not a morph wannebe.

I'm GhostH and you sir are an oscar.
Title: any word on formation for carrier borne bombers?
Post by: TequilaChaser on November 18, 2004, 09:17:42 AM
dangit all Ghosth, you forgot to smile at the end of your last post!  :D
Title: any word on formation for carrier borne bombers?
Post by: streetstang on November 18, 2004, 11:47:07 AM
Dang Ghost!

Nice. :)
Title: any word on formation for carrier borne bombers?
Post by: beet1e on November 18, 2004, 11:55:42 AM
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Originally posted by Ghosth
FYI Mr Beetle sir.

Please realise that I am NOT Morph, I've been here LONGER than morph. I was here before YOU got here.
They're right you know. Humour doesn't travel well, and even the spelling gets corrupted! You missed my meaning completely.

You see in Britain in the post war years and right up till 1984, we had a comedy duo known as Morecambe and Wise. They were a pair of stand up comics who specialised in one line gags like this:Corny, but good.

Anyway, one of their lines, when a question asked to one person was answered by someone else was "you said that without moving your lips!". My comment was addressed to Morph, but you answered it - hence my response. Get it now?

:aok
Title: any word on formation for carrier borne bombers?
Post by: streetstang on November 18, 2004, 12:39:22 PM
Hmmm, pretty lame comedy.

In the good ol US of A we just batlantly call others out for the fools they are. In the process of doing that there is much comedy to be had.

Its understandable that you wouldnt have seen that all along the joke was on you. :)

Btw, why do you even bother posting here anymore? Honestly...

You quit the game, you gave up on it. So what does any of this matter to you? It shouldnt. Or are you just that lonely that you haven't anything better to do?

I really wish you could see what a fool you have made of yourself in the past day or so.
Title: any word on formation for carrier borne bombers?
Post by: beet1e on November 18, 2004, 01:06:15 PM
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Originally posted by streetstang
Hmmm, pretty lame comedy.

In the good ol US of A we just batlantly call others out for the fools they are. In the process of doing that there is much comedy to be had.
Like I said, humour doesn't travel. Morecambe and Wise were one of the most popular and successful double acts in the history of British comedy.

Hehe, I don't post much in GD any more. Like you say, there's not much point. It wasn't the game I gave up on - the game is brilliant - it was the gameplay  - and whining pansies who have to have every game feature tuned exactly to their personal preference (and who waaaaahed about ENY), else they'll go whining to HTC on the BBS. Just look at you in that other thread. BGB/Greencloud was right. You went there in CHogs with about five wingmen and you went there to vulch. But even then the situation wasn't easy enough for you. I have cleared a field of its ack single handed in a CHog, but seems you couldn't do it with your five wingmen. Don't wanna get your wing taken off by manned ack? Easy solution: Don't vulch. BGB was right about that too. I've got film of you vulching, and film of you landing your 9 kills in a 109G2 - along with your 5 wingmen!

Enjoy your fun. I liked arcade games when I was your age.
Title: any word on formation for carrier borne bombers?
Post by: mars01 on November 18, 2004, 01:22:39 PM
Lol Furious exactly.  

Unless carriers are made much harder then the last thing we need are boxes of TBMs upping from carriers.

Tho, Morph is right, on one hand it would be fun, the overall affect to the carrier game would be bad.

Right now the life expectancy of a carrier is not long add boxes of TBMs and it will get even shorter.
Title: any word on formation for carrier borne bombers?
Post by: streetstang on November 18, 2004, 01:24:33 PM
hmmm lol.

Beetle you prove me right about my view of who you are with each stroke of the key. Your a fool, an assuming fool at that.

You left the game because you chose to.

And FYI, the field was cleared of ack by the few that could see it. What? You want me to tell you that I dont vulch so you can say I do? Who hasn't? Dont say you because I've seen you do it yourself. Idiot...

You see the game, nor the people who play it aren't the problem here. Or weren't should I say.... In your case. It was  you and you alone that forced you to leave. Your views and your ideas of what AH should be... You continue to miss out on the one simple fact of AH. The fact is that it is and always will be just a game. Its not a simulation of any sort. Sure, the planes are WW2 planes and the GVs are WW2 GVs... We are flying WW2 era stuff in a game setting. Its all a game, and until you can grasp that one simple fact, there is no place for you here. I'm not saying that because I dont like you. Lord knows I dont... I'm saying that because thats the way it is. If you look at the game, Aces High the way you do... You'll never have fun. You'll never enjoy it to its fullest. Rather than sitting back, enjoying, doing your own thing and letting others do theirs... You criticized all in the game who didnt play the way you saw fit. You ran your foolish polls... In order to accomplish what? Nothing... In the end, the only person who lost anything was you.

I doubt very much you've seen any of the people you criticize play the game. You assume they play the entire game the way that you see them in a few short moments. You've never flown with half of the people you talk watermelon to and talk down to... I know this for a fact because I know who you talk down to.

I'm not going to try and tell you how we fly or where we fight and how we fight. You wouldnt be able to understand a word of what I would say to you in the first place. Your too blind sided by the fact that you, think your always right... And that your opinions on a person or a certain facit of the game, is never wrong... I'd tell you where to stick both, but again there is no use. You only see what you want, and in the end... You'll be the fool you always were.

The people who took part in the other thread you mentioned knew right from the start what I was talking about. And what they were asking wasn't a cry to taylor the game in a way they saw fit. But again, you dont read, you assume, and in the end, your wrong.
Title: any word on formation for carrier borne bombers?
Post by: Pongo on November 18, 2004, 01:54:07 PM
I think the word on formations of carrier planes is its a waste of time.
Title: any word on formation for carrier borne bombers?
Post by: beet1e on November 18, 2004, 02:01:06 PM
Well Morph - I'm flattered by the length of your reply. :D Some of what you say is actually true. :eek: But I'll clarify my position.

As you probably know, I came from WB not AW. Most people thought of WB as a sim more than a game. The folks in it were enthusiasts (as they had to be to pay $2/hour) and we didn't get many gamey types of the sort who are prepared to part with only 50 cents a day. Name of the game was field capture. Sure, we did "air to air only" if there was only a relative handful present. People just joined up naturally and worked together. None of the "it's *MY* $2/hour" selfishness that you see in here. That was new to me when I came here.

I WAS in a squad in my early AH days, but they were mainly buffers. And they all got fed up and left. A couple stayed on and joined other squads, and I stayed on because I have faith in the AH product and the people developing it. You said "The fact is that it is and always will be just a game. Its not a simulation of any sort." and I don't quite agree. We have been promised TOD! And TOD will be more of a sim than a game, as I understand it. (Don't worry, there'll still be AH2 Classic, so you'll still be able to do your vulchfests with your ten wingmen, and pat yourselves on the back afterwards :lol ) I almost quit in Dec.2002 when TOD didn't show up in 1.11, and was again disappointed to learn that it wasn't going to be a part of AH2. I was sort of hanging on for it. And I will come back for it. But there's a limit to the amount of fun one can have, chasing Spits and LA7s before it begins to pall.

The problems for me right now are amply described by Slapshot in recent threads. The hordes, and the crap gameplay. I personally believe that the small maps are a horde's paradise, whereas larger maps like Pizza didn't see anything like the amount of hording. At one point, even Slapshot said he would welcome Pizza as a means of relief from the hordes - the same reason I looked forward to pizza. But the small maps stayed and so the hordes continued, and Slapshot announced that he'd cut his game time to the lowest level in three years. It's worth noting that this coincides with a period in which we had only the small maps, and things got so bad that HTC had to introduce the ENY balancing act. So don't try to say that the problems are all mine. As Slap put it, about a third of the ENY whiners had to make a sacrifice - but only so that the other two thirds could have a decent game.  I mention Slap because his views on the horde/gameplay situation mirror mine, and because you probably know him in RL.

Hehe, I think I've got you all steamed up! :lol So go and take a happy pill or something, and come back refreshed! :cool:
Title: any word on formation for carrier borne bombers?
Post by: airbumba on November 18, 2004, 02:57:18 PM
If you lose all the planes in a formation, doesn't it count as 3 deaths? On the flipside, if you landed the formation , does it show 3 sorties.

was wonderin about this a while back when I seen what I thought was an extra number of bomber sorties I did. (course it could be that I did some buff flyin after happy hour and miscounted ;)   )
Title: any word on formation for carrier borne bombers?
Post by: Ghosth on November 18, 2004, 04:29:20 PM
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Originally posted by beet1e
LOL Morph! You said that without moving your lips. ;)



Beetle sir, you missed the point.

You quoted MY reply, had your minor attempt at humor,  and stuck morphs name in there.

Why Quote me, then attibute my words to morph? Why bring Morph into a reply with my post at all? Other than you see yourself as having a verbal duel with him. And you don't mind slapping mud at anyone else as long as some gets on Morph.

 >>>They're right you know. Humour doesn't travel well, and even the spelling gets corrupted! You missed my meaning completely.>>>

Well yeah, it was a pretty convoluted attempt at humor no doubt.


>>>>Anyway, one of their lines, when a question asked to one person was answered by someone else was "you said that without moving your lips!". My comment was addressed to Morph, but you answered it - hence my response. Get it now?>>>>

If you were aiming at morph, why did you quote MY words?  Why mix it up?
Why not pick one of HIS posts & do it?

From my point of view you read my post, had your attempt at humor (sorry still not funny) then preceded to mix me up with Morph.

Sorry Morph, no insult intended,  but not funny at ALL here.

Hence MY reply.

As to what they "all" say, I could care less. However judging by streetstangs & TC's reaction I'd say I'm still on the right track.

Beetle you used to make for some interesting reading. But now its like a bad day of hunting. Lots of wading through slime,  a worn out trail,  and nothing to show for it.

Pony up the 15 $ a month and  play AH or get out of the slough!
Title: any word on formation for carrier borne bombers?
Post by: streetstang on November 18, 2004, 04:35:16 PM
Ghost, why are you apologizing to me?
Title: One last time
Post by: beet1e on November 18, 2004, 04:51:51 PM
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Originally posted by Ghosth
Beetle sir, you missed the point.

You quoted MY reply, had your minor attempt at humor,  and stuck morphs name in there.

Why Quote me, then attibute my words to morph? Why bring Morph into a reply with my post at all? Other than you see yourself as having a verbal duel with him. And you don't mind slapping mud at anyone else as long as some gets on Morph.
Humour exported is bad enough, but worst when it has to be explained.

You really don't get the Morecambe and Wise thing. Perhaps you should try Benny Hill instead. :p

It goes like this: Morecambe says "you said that without moving your lips". Clue: He's using sarcasm! He's deriding the person who actually answered by ignoring him and pretending he thought that the person he asked had answered without moving his lips.

I know a good Tommy Cooper joke - one I told to some friends in New York, including an English guy - who then had to spend 5 minutes explaining it to his American wife. :lol It was the one about him finding a Stradivarius and a Rembrandt in the attic... but don't ask me to explain it - I haven't got the energy tonight.

OK here's a Tommy Cooper one-liner. TC: I put a pound on a horse at twenty to one, and it came in - at twenty past four... :D
Title: any word on formation for carrier borne bombers?
Post by: palef on November 18, 2004, 05:36:36 PM
Don't worry beet1e, I got it the first time, and appreciated it.

Remember that they are from the US and don't do subtle, sarcastic, or ironic particularly well.

Imagine how horribly a good sarcastic Stephen Fry monologue would go in the US. Doesn't bear thinking about.

I think you'll just confuse them more by explaining it.

PS - Flame proof suit on. Have some fun lads. :)
Title: any word on formation for carrier borne bombers?
Post by: beet1e on November 18, 2004, 06:07:08 PM
LOL Palef! :lol

And on that note...

...Toodle-Pip!
Title: any word on formation for carrier borne bombers?
Post by: TequilaChaser on November 18, 2004, 06:09:27 PM
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Originally posted by beet1e

Hehe, I think I've got you all steamed up! :lol So go and take a happy pill or something, and come back refreshed! :cool:


I am not into insects, for there for I am unabled to be steamed up by your postings.............now if you can hook me up with Angeline Jolie (hope I spelt that rite ) I might could get the boiler a pumping to produce some steam and my prescription of happy pills has run out like 4 months ago, got any you can spare? :(  ( notice sad face, me need happy pill NOW! )

am out of this thread now, but I would like to see the ability to launch buff drones from CV's if it is possible.......

edit: btw I got both your jokes/1 liners the first times ( was 3 jokes right? )

good day..............:p
Title: any word on formation for carrier borne bombers?
Post by: Stang on November 18, 2004, 06:14:30 PM
This has become the worst thread ever.  Well, maybe not ever, but close.
Title: any word on formation for carrier borne bombers?
Post by: FDutchmn on November 18, 2004, 07:35:42 PM
oh boy... what ya guys doing to my thread... :D

anyway...

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Originally posted by Pongo
I think the word on formations of carrier planes is its a waste of time.


actually there is a reason that I ask... I like to use torpedoes a lot.  The only airborne torpedo platform that can sink a CV (in the MA) in one go is the Ju88s.  Ki67s differ in that it can offer more survivability due to its speed (but it actually does not because we do not have Japanese torpedoes available yet, we have German specs on the torps for the Ki67s and have to slow down considerably to launch).  The TBMs are a torpedo platform but because of the lack of formation, it only offers one torpedo in one go.  If the TBM offers a formation, it can launch three in one go.  I am not sure of what the call would be for the B5N though.

Of course, I do not think this is high priority but... well... there was talk about it before.  I was just wondering that the status was for this.
Title: here we go again - see if you get it this time
Post by: beet1e on November 19, 2004, 03:22:13 AM
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Originally posted by TequilaChaser
I am not into insects, for there for I am unabled to be steamed up by your postings.............
Morph, you said that without moving your lips.


FDutchman - yep, I'm sorry about what's been done to your thread. I posted a little dig at Morpheus, which I assumed would merit a one line reply or no reply, but the whole thing got out of hand.
Title: any word on formation for carrier borne bombers?
Post by: nopoop on November 19, 2004, 09:07:58 AM
WHOOT !!! WHOOT !!!

Sorry wrong thread..

Carry on !!
Title: any word on formation for carrier borne bombers?
Post by: Grits on November 19, 2004, 12:01:08 PM
If/when we get the B-25, I want it available on CV's so I can play Jimmy Doolittle. Formations of course too. :)
Title: any word on formation for carrier borne bombers?
Post by: beet1e on November 19, 2004, 12:37:57 PM
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Originally posted by Grits
If/when we get the B-25, I want it available on CV's so I can play Jimmy Doolittle. Formations of course too. :)
I'm sure Morpheus will be in a state of orgasm if this development reaches fruition!
Title: any word on formation for carrier borne bombers?
Post by: Stang on November 20, 2004, 12:27:28 PM
Well, didn't they take off from a CV in real life?  Maybe just once but they did.  Or did that stupid Pearl Harbor movie make it up  :p