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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Krusher on November 15, 2004, 07:06:18 AM
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This is a pretty interesting article.
http://www.washtimes.com/commentary/20041114-103944-4700r.htm
Europe's largest mosque is in Rotterdam, which is also Europe's busiest port. Half the people there are of foreign origin. Unemployment among the Muslims is high. And the Dutch live-and-let-live permissiveness made this nation, a quarter of it below sea level and protected by 1,500 dikes, ideal breeding grounds for Muslim fundamentalism and the kind of extremism that spawned one of Osama bin Laden's European fan clubs. But for years the government was in denial about Islamist extremism in what is otherwise a well-managed society.
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Slightly OT, but I thought Muslims were migrating to Europe for the jobs. How come so many are unemployed?
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The ones comming over have little or no academic education(*), so they go for the jobs that the locals won't do. Then, the locals complain that "they came to steal our jobs(tm)" ... get a good olde solid rise in racism al over western europe... voila!
(*): Not a 100%, but a majority.
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If they do jobs Europeans "won't do", why are so many unemployed? And if they are not needed, why are they allowed in? Is is possible to question immigration policies without being racist?
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Most of them came in the late 60's, when they were most welcome to come in and do the jobs we did not want to do. (Same goes with the south europeans before that, most of the mining towns were filled with Italians or Spanish). immigration IS a problem, a lot are still comming (and a lot die trying) comming on little boats through the Gibraltar straights, or through the turkish route.
Most of them are unemployed because all the older low wage jobs are now gone (mining, metalurgy, etc...) and the only jobs left out are fast food, trash hauling etc... we're not talking about industries of the same size as they were back then.
The same is bound to happen within the next 10 years with the easter european countries, I doubt they will ever be accepted as being part of the old europe.
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heard the dutch were considering closing the borders.
lazs
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There no longer are borders per se.
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It went like this:
60's and 70's: Import loads of "gast arbieters" to do the dirty industrial work
70's and 80's: The "gast arbeiters" begin to import the rest of their families at the same time the Euro's begin to shut down all the jobs they were imported to do.
80's to present: No "gast arbeiter" jobs left; the original poor old turk we imported has now bought over three generations of his family; and none of them can get jobs due the rise of racism in Europe. (Somehow; we never thought these people would actually settle nor have kids).
All made much worse by the blind post war policy of intergration instead of assimulation.
One area where the US _really_ beats Europe is assimulation: three generations and you're a yank. Over here; three generations and you're still a bloody foreigner. (In Denmark, at least; the phrase "third generation foreginer" has become part of every day language to describe some poor bugger born in Copenhagen with dark skin and a funny name...and they've registered all the Danish sounding names so the kids can't "cheat" on job applications by changing thier names).
It's an area where we have a lot to learn.
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Originally posted by Saintaw
The ones comming over have little or no academic education(*), so they go for the jobs that the locals won't do. Then, the locals complain that "they came to steal our jobs(tm)" ... get a good olde solid rise in racism al over western europe... voila!
(*): Not a 100%, but a majority.
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OMG! (http://www.southparkstudios.com/down/download.html?file=/media/sounds/806/THEYTOOKOURJOBS3.wav&PHPSESSID=11291840e95f5e36225e3b37648308ba) lmao
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you see the same thing I do? The coming genocide in europe will make hitlers assault on the jews look tame (and the ignant yuros cant even begin to see it, the shame).
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Stupid media making it a farce
there are probably more muslims in the USA than in the netherlands.
I don't have a problem with them and those terrorist like in Den Haag had a american father and dutch mother.
Their american labilism made them muslim
and terrorist just like that walker type caught in afghanistan.
How about that us soldier muslim that threw some handgrenades in saudi arabia.
Or that sniper muslim in the USA all native americans that turned over to muslim .
Again nothin in the koran or bible tells u to murder people.
Its just extremism like for example happened in ireland where both christians killed eachother.
I tell u it's the media that thickens it all
Just stop the crap
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With God as my witness I do hereby proclaim that BUG_EAF322 has made bsb history be making complete and total sense!
I am in total agreement with BUG_EAF322, the media thickens it up!
Well said man! well said :)
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Yeah I gotta agree with Bug, when I lived in Holland it wasn't the Muslims I minded........it was the native Dutch that got on my nerves. Those damn cycle bells.......
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Holland is an awesome country, love it. People are so friendly.
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Originally posted by Furball
Holland is an awesome country, love it. People are so friendly.
:rofl
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Originally posted by Swoop
:rofl
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I guess a tourists view (been there 3 times) is different to someone that actually lived there ;)
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So which is it Yeager? Hype or Holocaust?
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The answer my friend, is blowing in the wind.......
I think the answer to the sad state of humanity lies somewhere in between. In between the here and the there.....the fore and the aft....the hither and the yonder, and that quiet little space in the mind where you go just before you fall asleep....I like it there.
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Well said man! well said
thnx thnx :D
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Originally posted by Saintaw
The ones comming over have little or no academic education(*), so they go for the jobs that the locals won't do. Then, the locals complain that "they came to steal our jobs(tm)" ... get a good olde solid rise in racism al over western europe... voila!
So what your saying is your muslims
Are like our mexicans?
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I like the Netherlands, been there many times, the Dutch are always friendly, helpful, and the women are beautiful.
I have learned not to get in the immigrations passport line coming in behind a black, he will be spending a long time being questioned and it will hold the line up for quite a while. Caucasians walk through in a minute or two, so only get in a line with white people ahead of you.
Gotta be careful on the trains, almost had my flight bag stolen, caught the guy at the last moment with it. Pickpokets abound downtown, crack deals out in the open, and drugged up beggars are annoying. But, it is still a great place to visit.
dago
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Originally posted by Dago
Gotta be careful on the trains, almost had my flight bag stolen, caught the guy at the last moment with it. Pickpokets abound downtown, crack deals out in the open, and drugged up beggars are annoying. But, it is still a great place to visit.
dago
Actually those "dealers" are just there to rip off tourists. I can assure you that there's no crack dealing in the open. It is not tolerated, I was once jumped by the cops and accused of smoking crack because I stumped my cig at a wrong time.
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Ok here's a quickie about the Dutch police.
Ahem.
A few years back some bright spark in the Dutch Police service decided they were going to infiltrate the drug smuggler gangs. So they did, using government funding the Dutch police infiltrated and joined several drug smuggling rings, using lots of communication and police contacts to aid the smuggling. Ok, so fast forward a couple of years and zero arrests have been made so some high up fella in the Dutch police decided that this operation had gone on too long and it was time to shut it down. Overnight the amount of cocaine and heroin being imported to Holland dropped by 75%. It was estimated that 400,000 kilos of class A drugs per year were being imported by the police themselves.
And on a personal note, I had 2 motorbikes stolen while out in that Godforsaken little country and the Dutch police's attitude was "Ja, you must come to the police station to report it. Ja, you must have the ownership documents before we will start looking. Ja, we don't look anyway because it took you too long to get your documents from Britain and the bike will be in Poland by now anyway."
Make no mistake, Dutch police are the worst, laziest, most unprofessional Police force in the world. And that's going some to top the British police.......
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Originally posted by Swoop
Make no mistake, Dutch police are the worst, laziest, most unprofessional Police force in the world.
This is the impression I got too. My another encounter with them was when they gave me a lecture about jaywalking.
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Dowding, in the evening, look for the "Pijp" area, was pretty fun last time i was there.
Oh, and jump on the side if you hear a bike bell chiming...
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Originally posted by mora
Actually those "dealers" are just there to rip off tourists. I can assure you that there's no crack dealing in the open.
And I can assure you I saw it myself, saw the rocks, heard the price discussion, so your "assurances" don't mean much to me.
sorry,
dago
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This was told to me by multiple locals. Maybe the times have changed, I was there 2 years ago.