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Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: Yeager on November 15, 2004, 12:29:58 PM
Whats it like in western europe with all of the muslim immigration from africa and the middle east these past 30 or so years.  

I read about the Van Gogh dude getting his throat slashed while riding his bike to work in hAMSTERDAM, city of free love and narcotics for all.  Some morrocan muslim apparently didnt like what Van Gogh had to say about Islam being mean to women so he chased him down and brutally murdered him.  I guess alot of immigrant muslims are very unhappy with their western european hosts.
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: Eagler on November 15, 2004, 01:08:41 PM
nothing wrong with Islam ...




... just many of the Islamics who are nuttier than a fruit cake..
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: Dowding on November 15, 2004, 01:32:51 PM
I'm going to Amsterdam next week with my girlfriend. Definitely planning on visiting the Anne Frank museum. Might visit a cafe or two. Anyone got any other places of interest they'd recommend?
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: Furball on November 15, 2004, 01:38:41 PM
Bulldog Coffeeshop Nr.90
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: BUG_EAF322 on November 15, 2004, 02:38:20 PM
There is a sex museum also.


uhm..... the red zone offcourse

:)
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: Yeager on November 15, 2004, 02:49:26 PM
yeah, go visit the site where Van Gogh was shot multiple times, chased down the street, had his throat slit, then had a 5 page muslim manifesto stabbed to his chest (all because he was critical of the way muslims treat women), and pay your respects.  Since your there you might as well leave flowers or something....then go to the hardcore muslim part of town and tell those people to be tolerant and see where you end up.
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: Seeker on November 15, 2004, 03:01:15 PM
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Originally posted by Dowding
I'm going to Amsterdam next week with my girlfriend. Definitely planning on visiting the Anne Frank museum. Might visit a cafe or two. Anyone got any other places of interest they'd recommend?


Go out the rear side of the main station and on the waterfront is a tiny restaurant called "pier 10". Get a table right in the front (you may well need to book).

Try and catch a concert in the Melkweg

Go watch a movie in the "Tchusinski" cinema

The market on Waterlooplein is always good; as is the one in the Jordan at the weekend.

You'll love it; it's a great place.
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: SOB on November 15, 2004, 03:06:10 PM
Dowding, send me a postcard . . . and a hooker.

Yeager, seek professional help for your pending breakdown.
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: Yeager on November 15, 2004, 03:13:13 PM
SOB thats not very nice of you.  Here I am trying to be as entertaining as possible, for all the good people here and you come in here, in this fine and peaceful thread, and snipe me like that..

hmm...


SOB is HIMMLER!!!!!!!  OH JEEBUS!!!!!!  OH JEEBUS!!!!!


:rofl
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: straffo on November 15, 2004, 03:17:09 PM
As a Yuropean I can Allah Akbar say that the so-called Allah Akbar invasion of Allah Akbar Europe by muslims Allah Akbar is a myth.

I swear ! Allah Akbar !
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: Chortle on November 15, 2004, 03:23:54 PM
Take a boat trip by the floating cat sanctuary to soften up your girlfriend when you roll in at 6.30am on a bicycle wearing a 'novelty' candle and a big grin with 4 police chasing you ;)

Oh yeah, Allah Akbar!
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: Yeager on November 15, 2004, 03:25:02 PM
There are no head scarfs in france, we get the picture straffo :aok
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: takeda on November 15, 2004, 03:27:51 PM
I'm already on tape 3 of my Pimsleur arabic course....
I for one welcome our new muslim overlords! Marhaba!
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: Staga on November 15, 2004, 03:49:42 PM
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Originally posted by Yeager
yeah, go visit the site where Van Gogh was shot multiple times, chased down the street, had his throat slit, then had a 5 page muslim manifesto stabbed to his chest (all because he was critical of the way muslims treat women), and pay your respects.  Since your there you might as well leave flowers or something....then go to the hardcore muslim part of town and tell those people to be tolerant and see where you end up.


I'm thinking about visiting L.A and N.Y police departments and ask if they're going to beat the crap out of some blacks. Going to visit the place Rodney King was beated by police, maybe ask some cop to pose with his night stick.

Of course I know not to judge all polices if there's few rotten amongst them.
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: Furball on November 15, 2004, 03:56:02 PM
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Originally posted by Staga
I'm thinking about visiting L.A and N.Y police departments and ask if they're going to beat the crap out of some blacks. Going to visit the place Rodney King was beated by police, maybe ask some cop to pose with his night stick.

Of course I know not to judge all polices if there's few rotten amongst them.


Dont forget to visit where the stupid american nut killed John Lennon.
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: straffo on November 15, 2004, 04:41:43 PM
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Originally posted by Yeager
There are no head scarfs in france, we get the picture straffo :aok


hehe :)

There is muslims here nothing spectacular or dramatic.
Don't forget that a grand majority of this muslims come from our former colonies and have a sort of European coloration.
They can't be compared to the middle-east muslim in fact they have a complete different culture.
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: Saurdaukar on November 15, 2004, 04:49:45 PM
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Originally posted by Dowding
I'm going to Amsterdam next week with my girlfriend. Definitely planning on visiting the Anne Frank museum. Might visit a cafe or two. Anyone got any other places of interest they'd recommend?


Youre bringing your girl to Amsterdam?

Thats like bringing sand to the beach.
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: Saintaw on November 15, 2004, 05:25:38 PM
That Van gogh guy was a far right **** , not surprising what happened to him.
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: beet1e on November 15, 2004, 05:38:53 PM
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Originally posted by Dowding
I'm going to Amsterdam next week with my girlfriend. Definitely planning on visiting the Anne Frank museum. Might visit a cafe or two. Anyone got any other places of interest they'd recommend?
Dowd, The Anne Franck Huis is at 263 Prinsengracht, not far from the Westerkerk - Amsterdam's tallest building. The Westerkerk is very plain inside - not worth bothering with. But... opposite Anne Franck's house on the other side of Prinsengracht, there is a shop selling marvellous porcelain and mosaics - worth going in to see.

The RLD has it's ups and downs, no pun intended. Last time I was there was with two Yanks right after the 2002 flightsim Eurocon. What a load of old slappers we saw then.

If your gf is openminded, there's always the Banana Club. On second thoughts...

Chortle - I went on that cat sanctuary barge. It was tea time for the kitties, and they were being fed raw chicks - barely old enough to have been hatched. I'll never forget the overpowering smell of cat piss on that barge.
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: Shuckins on November 15, 2004, 05:49:07 PM
You're right Saintaw.  How DARE HE speak his mind!  And about women's rights, no less!  He obviously had a death wish.
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: GRUNHERZ on November 15, 2004, 05:52:52 PM
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Originally posted by Saintaw
That Van gogh guy was a far right **** , not surprising what happened to him.


Gotta love the tolerance in Europe. Every few generations another group just seems to have it to coming to them, eh Saw?

How does this usually go over there. First you build virulent consensus against a view. Then you ban books or punish people who write books with thart view. Then you skip all the sissy crap and just get right to murder...

Ok now that i got that out of the way.. ;)

Seriously SAW I think its pretyy damning of the state of european culture today when you feel comfortable in saying that you are not surprised that somebody got murdered for holding a particular political point of view. Artenmt you concerned at saying that?

It seems that murdering conservative politicans and theorists is a fast growing sport in that part of the world...

Imagine how you might react if an american said some polician or theorisat was killed because they supported the UN and that we didnt find his death surprisng because those views get people killed here..
Title: Re: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: Vulcan on November 15, 2004, 05:53:46 PM
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Originally posted by Yeager
Whats it like in western europe with all of the muslim immigration from africa and the middle east these past 30 or so years.  

I read about the Van Gogh dude getting his throat slashed while riding his bike to work in hAMSTERDAM, city of free love and narcotics for all.  Some morrocan muslim apparently didnt like what Van Gogh had to say about Islam being mean to women so he chased him down and brutally murdered him.  I guess alot of immigrant muslims are very unhappy with their western european hosts.


No worse than the anti-abortion Christian lunies going around murdering Doctors. Now, the difference is that the Islamic lunies are brought up in an environment where killing for Islam is generally accepted, and whereas IMHO the Christian lunies have to make a much bigger mental/moral jump to the bombing-the-clinic result.
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: boxboy28 on November 15, 2004, 06:05:24 PM
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Youre bringing your girl to Amsterdam?

Thats like bringing sand to the beach.




Dude you slay me thats sign material now for sure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: DREDIOCK on November 15, 2004, 06:10:31 PM
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Originally posted by Yeager
yeah, go visit the site where Van Gogh was shot multiple times, chased down the street, had his throat slit, then had a 5 page muslim manifesto stabbed to his chest (all because he was critical of the way muslims treat women), and pay your respects.  Since your there you might as well leave flowers or something....then go to the hardcore muslim part of town and tell those people to be tolerant and see where you end up.



Yes it is rather interesting whats going on over there these days isnt it.
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: Chortle on November 15, 2004, 06:14:12 PM
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Originally posted by beet1e
snipped-->.

Chortle - I went on that cat sanctuary barge. It was tea time for the kitties, and they were being fed raw chicks - barely old enough to have been hatched. I'll never forget the overpowering smell of cat piss on that barge.
Oh crap Beetle, you've just ruined a perfectly good and idealised notion of quaint animal welfare. Dont want to ruin it but this would be a perfect opportunity for a good old fashioned Grauniad reader bashing ;)

Last time I was there we didn't get that close to the barge, plus luckily it was about - 15C at the end of March so I couldn't smell a thing.
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: DREDIOCK on November 15, 2004, 06:15:07 PM
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Originally posted by Shuckins
You're right Saintaw.  How DARE HE speak his mind!  And about women's rights, no less!  He obviously had a death wish.


And in a country that touts itself as being so tolerant and accepting too!
Title: Re: Re: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: Eagler on November 15, 2004, 08:51:50 PM
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Originally posted by Vulcan
No worse than the anti-abortion Christian lunies going around murdering Doctors. Now, the difference is that the Islamic lunies are brought up in an environment where killing for Islam is generally accepted, and whereas IMHO the Christian lunies have to make a much bigger mental/moral jump to the bombing-the-clinic result.


ancient history

pls post a bombing or abort doc killing in the last 5 years?
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: GRUNHERZ on November 15, 2004, 08:53:02 PM
Eagler 5 years is not ancient history, of course not literly and certainly not in the way you mean it.  For example 911 was only 3 years ago, is that just old history now?
Title: Re: Re: Re: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: Vulcan on November 15, 2004, 10:09:09 PM
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Originally posted by Eagler
ancient history

pls post a bombing or abort doc killing in the last 5 years?



http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_viol.htm

1 Murder and 16 bombings in the last 5 years.

Gee Eagler, maybe you should clean up your own back yard ;)
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: FUNKED1 on November 15, 2004, 10:16:45 PM
Hey leave the poor Clogistanis alone.
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: Holden McGroin on November 15, 2004, 10:48:14 PM
Yurop having problems with Islam? Perhaps it's time for

(http://dvdmedia.ign.com/media/reviews/image/monty_inquisition.jpg)
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: Saurdaukar on November 15, 2004, 11:22:56 PM
NO ONE expects the Spanish Inquisition!  :D
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: lasersailor184 on November 15, 2004, 11:42:10 PM
Unfortunately, it's true.  :(


With me being on the forefront of freedom and the like, I think it's a bout time the muslims are taken down a peg in Europe.  From what I've heard talking to other people, they move in and "Demand" that things be done their way, which is every right they have.  But when more and more demand it and what they are demanding is fundamental islam, it's about time you put your foot down.
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: DREDIOCK on November 15, 2004, 11:42:52 PM
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
NO ONE expects the Spanish Inquisition!  :D



Ahhh the good ol days :D
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: Saintaw on November 16, 2004, 04:32:10 AM
Now GRUN, not making a difference between "conservative" and "extreme right"... why does that not surprise me? The later deserve whatever gets at them as far as i'm conserned(sp?).
Title: Re: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: Overlag on November 16, 2004, 05:04:54 AM
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Originally posted by Yeager
Whats it like in western europe with all of the muslim immigration from africa and the middle east these past 30 or so years.  

I read about the Van Gogh dude getting his throat slashed while riding his bike to work in hAMSTERDAM, city of free love and narcotics for all.  Some morrocan muslim apparently didnt like what Van Gogh had to say about Islam being mean to women so he chased him down and brutally murdered him.  I guess alot of immigrant muslims are very unhappy with their western european hosts.


london is full of them......and they whine alot too
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: GRUNHERZ on November 16, 2004, 05:07:45 AM
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Originally posted by Saintaw
Now GRUN, not making a difference between "conservative" and "extreme right"... why does that not surprise me? The later deserve whatever gets at them as far as i'm conserned(sp?).


Great Saw, I'll just let you reflect on what you just said...  You support terrorists  who kill the citizens of your native land.   You support the murder of people based purely on their political thoughts.

And who cares whether he is far right or far left or whatever. You only make a note of it to justify your intolerance and prejuduice. If yiu dont like their politicalk view, you clearly say that yiu think they deserve whater they get, even murder.

You support murder to eliminate political views in yiur society...
 
Pretty neat saw..  And just like I said before, I find a Europe that accepts murder over political differnces very troubling...
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: Saintaw on November 16, 2004, 05:11:07 AM
I support terrorists... right :rolleyes:
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: GRUNHERZ on November 16, 2004, 05:17:47 AM
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Originally posted by Saintaw
I support terrorists... right :rolleyes:


Roll your eyes all you want Saw.... You clearly support the murder of this man because you dislike his political views...  And if buthcering a man like this, and targeting him for his political views and pinning a book to his chest with knife to make a stament of terror and intimidation isnt terrorism then pretty much nothing is...  And yoiu clearly support that, yoy say this was an act he desrved...
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: straffo on November 16, 2004, 06:05:17 AM
You're mistaken GRUN , van Gogh just tasted his own medecine.
That's why it's hard to have empathy for him.
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: GRUNHERZ on November 16, 2004, 06:25:35 AM
Quote
Originally posted by straffo
You're mistaken GRUN , van Gogh just tasted his own medecine.
That's why it's hard to have empathy for him.


His own medicine???

How many people did Theo Van Gogh slaughter? When? Who? Why wasnt he arrested for the murders he commited?

And this has nothing to do with emapthy, it has everything to do with the idea that you guys hold which says people deserve to be murdered because they hold a certain political viewpoint that you disagree with.  You cheerfully excuse away and justify this blatant political terrorism murder saying the victim deserved it.

German nazis and soviet communists of the past killed authors they disagreed with and whose ideas they deemed unaccepatble, and the public accepted these killings and excused them. Modern europeans kill movie makers and writers they disagree with, and so far all I see is you two europeans here on the BBS  saying that he desrved it or that somehow anythingb he did was just like his brutal murder and warranted his murder.

And it clearly is an organized political terror attack. The victimwas killed for his political views. The killer is a known islamic radical. The note stabbed to Van Gogh's body threatednd numerous dutch politicians. The suspect had severl accomplices. All of them were linked to an extremist mosque in amsterdam that cobstantly calls for jihad and is under close police observation at most times.

And you guys support, justify and excuse this murdfer because you think the guy deserged to die based on his political views.

What is wrong with you?
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: straffo on November 16, 2004, 06:47:26 AM
I'm fine thanks.


But if you calm a bit you will notice you put words in Saw's mouth (and mine btw),words he didn't wrote.



Where did you read Saw or I were endorsing and supporting the murder of van Gogh ?

Read me again :

were did I (or Saw) wrote we were happy of van Gogh murder ?

Do you believe that I (or Saw)  are supporting the assasination of van Gogh ?






Do you get it ?
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: GRUNHERZ on November 16, 2004, 06:52:47 AM
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Originally posted by Saintaw
That Van gogh guy was a far right **** , not surprising what happened to him.



Quote
Originally posted by Saintaw
Now GRUN, not making a difference between "conservative" and "extreme right"... why does that not surprise me? The later deserve whatever gets at them as far as i'm conserned(sp?).


When you say that somebody deserved to get killed that means that you support it, that you agree with it.

Yiu dont express disagreement by saying that somebody deserved something they got.

Quote
Originally posted by straffo
You're mistaken GRUN , van Gogh just tasted his own medecine.
That's why it's hard to have empathy for him.


Tasted hos own medicine. No empathy.

Your guys stance on this is clear..  I dont have to put any words into your mouths...
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: Saintaw on November 16, 2004, 06:52:55 AM
Never mind, i'm done with that guy... predictable and boring.
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: GRUNHERZ on November 16, 2004, 06:57:26 AM
Yea Saw run away from saying that Theo Van Gogh deserved to be brutally killed for making his movies...

Can yiu even defend your statement?  What made him deserve to get slaughterd like that saw? As I understand it you morally oppose punishiong people by death, what did Van Gogh do that even yiou think he deserved anything, even death?  

Can you justify your statement that he desrved to be slaughtered?

Or just huff and puff, fake outrage and run away to hide..

Pathetic...
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: Eagler on November 16, 2004, 07:02:19 AM
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Originally posted by Vulcan
http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_viol.htm

1 Murder and 16 bombings in the last 5 years.

Gee Eagler, maybe you should clean up your own back yard ;)


and now pls compare those numbers to the Islamic murders commited in the same time frame

there is NO comparison, cept in some of ur pee brains
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: straffo on November 16, 2004, 07:04:07 AM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Tasted hos own medicine. No empathy.

Your guys stance on this is clear..  I dont have to put any words into your mouths...


It doesn't mean anything except :

I just don't care , I didn't call for murder.


@Saw : il est plus prévisible qu'un épisode de l'inspecteur  Derrick :D (mais plus drole aussi)
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: GRUNHERZ on November 16, 2004, 07:07:05 AM
Quote
Originally posted by straffo
It doesn't mean anything except :

I just don't care , I didn't call for murder.


@Saw : il est plus prévisible qu'un épisode de l'inspecteur  Derrick :D (mais plus drole aussi)


Its good to know that yiu oppopse his murder and do not think he desreved to be slaughtered for his political views and movies.

Yet there is akso a hateful and irrational callousness in yiour tone, how could you comapre anything he did in his movies to murder when you said that he tasted his own medicine.

Dont answer, but tust think about that..

That still lkeaves Saw to justify his statements that Van Gogh and others like him deserve anything they get, even death..

But Saw is hiding...
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: straffo on November 16, 2004, 07:13:42 AM
He shouldn't have be killed because of his opinions.

Killed for his movies ... I'm more balanced :D
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: GRUNHERZ on November 16, 2004, 07:15:48 AM
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Originally posted by straffo
He shouldn't have be killed because of his opinions.

Killed for his movies ... I'm more balanced :D


Since the guy was actually killed because of his movie I think its a poor choice of words, unless of course you are serious...
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: straffo on November 16, 2004, 08:06:24 AM
Provocation is not talent or creativity ... else Micheal Moore  would be a good movie maker.
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: SOB on November 16, 2004, 10:43:08 AM
Hey Grun, there's only one person huffing and puffing in this thread and it ain't Saw.  Try to figure out who it is.
Title: Re: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: Maniac on November 16, 2004, 10:47:15 AM
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Originally posted by Yeager
Whats it like in western europe with all of the muslim immigration from africa and the middle east these past 30 or so years.  
 


Dont belive the Bush administrations Hype.

Heres a similar thread where Ripsnort tried to convince me and others that Sweden is a Muslim safe heven.

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=131020&highlight=sweden

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Title: The spread of Islam to western europe
Post by: Seeker on November 16, 2004, 06:43:20 PM
Dowding....

When all this pisss is over...

Really... have a great time; Amsterdam is a lovely place.


Skuzzy... if  you let this kind of thing continue post election; you're doing the community (such as it is) as disservice.. it's supposed to be a inclusive meritocracy; not a "them - us" discussion board; they have check 6 for that....