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Title: russian DC3s
Post by: SELECTOR on November 15, 2004, 02:36:07 PM

Did'nt the russians build dc3s under licence from about 1937? and didn't they have top gun turrets?

if so can we get one for ah2..

Title: russian DC3s
Post by: Angus on November 15, 2004, 02:53:05 PM

Something of the sort I think.
They would be an option.
So would the Ju52. Slow but versatile, also with a top gun.
So would the Curtiss Commando. Higher speed and payload.

Title: russian DC3s
Post by: gripen on November 15, 2004, 03:46:22 PM

Yep, they called it Lisunov Li-2 and in addition it was used as bomber. The Russians used the M-62 on these planes.

gripen

Title: russian DC3s
Post by: Panzzer on November 15, 2004, 03:51:17 PM

The Soviets manufactured almost three thousand DC-3 variants under license. They were built under the direction of Boris Lisunov, who had acquired his education in putting together the aircraft at the Douglas Santa Monica plant during a stint there from 1936 through 1939. The type went into production as the "PS-84", meaning "Passenger Aircraft from State Factory (GAZ) 84", and was in principle to be used as a civilian airliner by Aeroflot. After the Nazi invasion of June 1941, GAZ-84 relocated to Tashkent in Central Asia, and the aircraft acquired the military designation "Li-2".

Li-2 variants included:

Li-2G: Basic civil cargo hauler, with reinforced floor and tie-downs, plus cargo doors on the left.

Li-2T: Militarized Li-2G, with a capacity of 20 troops or 15 stretchers along with the crew of four. Some were fitted with a dorsal turret with either a ShKAS 7.62 millimeter (0.30 caliber) or UBT 12.7 millimeter (0.50 caliber) machine gun, and a ShKAS machine gun could be fitted to a flexible mount on each side of the aircraft. Bomb racks could be fitted under the fuselage, with typical carriage consisting of four FAB-250 250 kilogram (550 pound) bombs, and six RS-82 82 millimeter (3.2 inch) unguided rockets could be carried under each outer wing.

edit: link (http://www.dc3history.org/russia.htm) added.

Title: russian DC3s
Post by: SunTracker on November 15, 2004, 03:58:16 PM

We DEFINATELY need the Li-2t in Aces High.  With C47s maneuverability and slow speed, it could mow down troops and light gvs all day long.

Title: russian DC3s
Post by: Angus on November 15, 2004, 04:16:29 PM

A question...
What powerplant did it have?

Title: russian DC3s
Post by: oboe on November 15, 2004, 07:05:48 PM

Here's a pic of one:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/611140/M (http://www.airliners.net/open.file/611140/M)

Title: russian DC3s
Post by: Guppy35 on November 15, 2004, 10:12:13 PM

And the Japanese had their licence built version called the Tess by the Allies.

Dan/Slack

Title: russian DC3s
Post by: Panzzer on November 16, 2004, 04:41:52 AM

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Originally posted by Angus
A question...
What powerplant did it have?

They used several different engines (?), but mostly the Shvetsov ASh-62 (or M-62), a 9 cylinder radial with 746 kW (1,000 HP).

Title: russian DC3s
Post by: mora on November 16, 2004, 05:51:07 AM

Wasn't it considerably slower than the C47?

Title: russian DC3s
Post by: GScholz on November 16, 2004, 06:57:27 AM

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Originally posted by mora
Wasn't it considerably slower than the C47?

I don't think that's possible. They'd be flying backwards! ;)

Title: russian DC3s
Post by: Karnak on November 16, 2004, 09:52:12 AM

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Originally posted by Guppy35
And the Japanese had their licence built version called the Tess by the Allies.

Dan/Slack

Tabby, IIRC.