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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Wmaker on November 16, 2004, 07:45:11 AM
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Hi,
Does anyone here happen to have good pictures inside the Boeing 747 Final assembly building at Everett? There are some pictures in the net but they are mostly very small and taken from fairly far distance. Especially pics taken from the earlier stages of the final assembly would be wellcome.
Also if there are Boeing workers who can share some detailed info on the joining of wings, the final body join or from the earlier stages of main fuselage sections assembly...it would be great! :)
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All of what you're asking for is proprietary information. Regarding pics, last time I took the official "tour" of the Everett plant, no camera's were allowed.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
All of what you're asking for is proprietary information. Regarding pics, last time I took the official "tour" of the Everett plant, no camera's were allowed.
Don't be an ass. He probably needs this information for a school project.
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Originally posted by mora
Don't be an ass. He probably needs this information for a school project.
Your Avatar should win a prize of some sorts.
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Originally posted by mora
Don't be an ass. He probably needs this information for a school project.
Don't be an bellybutton by looking like an ass.(Too late for you judging by your previous posts...) Company policy states "Possession and use of camera-enabled devices may only be authorized for individuals whose work assignments involve a need to operate camera equipment or to organizations that have a recurring need for camera usage."
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Ripsnort is right. Boeing prohibits cameras on any and all property without prior authorization from at least a Program level manager. This includes cell phones with built-in cameras.
That said, images are available for licensing through several sources including Boeing http://www.boeing.com/flash.html and George Hall/Check Six http://www.check-6.com/.
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I wasn't talking about the pictures only. What's so damn secret about joining parts of an 35 years old airplane. Especially as this information is most certainly available in the products service manuals etc. If you think you can't disclose that information, then why did you bother replying in the first place?
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Originally posted by mora
I wasn't talking about the pictures only. What's so damn secret about joining parts of an 35 years old airplane. Especially as this information is most certainly available in the products service manuals etc. If you think you can't disclose that information, then why did you bother replying in the first place?
Wow! Can you believe this guy?
:lol
Not in the business sector, are you?
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You saw an opportunity to show your true self and used it. My sector doesn't have anything to do with this.
Personally I have asked much more discreet information many times from different companies, and everytime the reply has been friendly and helpful.
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http://www.stelzriede.com/ms/photos/planes/b1744.jpg
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Mora,
1..it's company policy
2..he works for Boeing
he wasn't beeing an ass.
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Originally posted by pugg666
Mora,
1..it's company policy
2..he works for Boeing
he wasn't beeing an ass.
I know that this is the case. I guess you are very damn strict about these issues over there. In this light my reply was out of line, and I apologize.
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I can take pictures of me removing the wing from my Cessna if that is any help.
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Originally posted by Wmaker
Hi,
Does anyone here happen to have good pictures inside the Boeing 747 Final assembly building at Everett? There are some pictures in the net but they are mostly very small and taken from fairly far distance. Especially pics taken from the earlier stages of the final assembly would be wellcome.
Also if there are Boeing workers who can share some detailed info on the joining of wings, the final body join or from the earlier stages of main fuselage sections assembly...it would be great! :)
register at boeing.com/employment (or something like that) and they will send you a nice CD which has some pics from inside the plan amongst other things.
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Try to take it easy guys. ;)
Yep, I learned about the camera policy during those Everett tours just after posting. There are some stuff in one Discovery document I have on my HD. But because of the .mpeg quality you can't get any good stills out of it. There would be pretty much what I need in terms of photographs.
I do know however that the joints themselves are hardly rocket sience nowadays. ;) I just don't have any good schematic pics of the joints themselves.
...So I have to be just guessing but as these airliners are more or less riveted together and certain types of rivets can be used up to 40mm of aluminum thickness....
...so schematic pics of the support members in side the fuselage and the rivet patterns joining them. Was looking for this kind of stuff.
(Hearing men in black from Boeing knocking on my door allready :D)
P.S Thanks for you suggestion guys...I came up with this with a bit short notice. :)
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Originally posted by mora
I wasn't talking about the pictures only. What's so damn secret about joining parts of an 35 years old airplane. Especially as this information is most certainly available in the products service manuals etc. If you think you can't disclose that information, then why did you bother replying in the first place?
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mora,
At the risk of being considered an bellybutton or being accused of feeding the fire, did you ever stop to consider that perhaps the joining process has evolved over the past 35 years? I know the 747 fuselage skin panel assembly process has certainly evolved. Does my company want to share that technology? Depends on how much you want to invest....
As far as the tour goes, it's one thing to permit the competition to "look" at an assembly/manufacturing process, but to photograph the process and turn that information over to your engineering/tooling staff could put the host company at a competitive disadvantage.
I wonder when was the last time EADS toured a Boeing plant? :rolleyes:
Chance
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Originally posted by chance-airwolf
As far as the tour goes, it's one thing to permit the competition to "look" at an assembly/manufacturing process, but to photograph the process and turn that information over to your engineering/tooling staff could put the host company at a competitive disadvantage.
Chance
...and one would risk prison time for breaking U.S. federal laws on the transfer of technology to a foreign person/location. It would also jeopardize a company's export license.
MiG