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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: KurtVW on November 18, 2004, 09:23:18 PM
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Tell me...
Is driving for 10 minutes regardless of my vehicle choice and getting ONE SHOT KILLED... EVERY TIME... Is that supposed to be fun?
Because I'm not feeling it.
I've been one shot killed in every freaken vehicle in the game.... Almost everytime its a one shot kill.
Tell me, HiTech (or other company man)... What Gives? Am I seriously expected to believe that no one ever had a chance?
I dunno, I've never been really into the GV game, but you kinda have to do it if you wan't an ok overall score... But when you try to do it you get raped. It doesn't matter, I can take a tiger and my odds are no better than they are in an M3... Its always the same.... click click boom....... BOOM... JoeBlow shot you down.
Wow, compelling ground warfare.
If I wanna be done in one shot, I'll spend 14.95 downloading porn.
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You can download porn for free.
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Oh, I know that... But if free is good, imagine what 14.95 can do! :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by KurtVW
Tell me...
Is driving for 10 minutes regardless of my vehicle choice and getting ONE SHOT KILLED... EVERY TIME... Is that supposed to be fun?
Because I'm not feeling it.
I've been one shot killed in every freaken vehicle in the game.... Almost everytime its a one shot kill.
Tell me, HiTech (or other company man)... What Gives? Am I seriously expected to believe that no one ever had a chance?
I dunno, I've never been really into the GV game, but you kinda have to do it if you wan't an ok overall score... But when you try to do it you get raped. It doesn't matter, I can take a tiger and my odds are no better than they are in an M3... Its always the same.... click click boom....... BOOM... JoeBlow shot you down.
Wow, compelling ground warfare.
If I wanna be done in one shot, I'll spend 14.95 downloading porn.
They said It's a flight game, whaddya expect.
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I don't spend much time in gvs, but here are a couple of observations:
1) If you just full speed towards the enemy base, the chances of a stationary, concealed enemy seeing you and engaging you first is extremely high. It's also quite possible that he has taken a couple of missed shots at you without you realizing it. Advantage: stationary defender
2) Your engine sound gives your direction away to a stationary enemy even when he can't see you. Try this: stop your engine and hop up to the turret MG. Rotate it around. You will hear the sound shift from side to side. Get it in the middle and you know approximately which direction the enemy is coming from.
Advantage: stationary defender
So how do you counter these advantages?
First, just like with airplanes, have a wingman. One moves while the other is stationary watching and listening for enemy. This is called overwatch. The overwatch tank should be able to see any likely positions which can engage his moving wingman as the wingman moves from one positon to the next. The wingman then takes up overwatch.
Second, take advantage of the terrain. Don't crest hills, drive around them. Move quickly from cover to cover, stop, and observe. Shut your engine down often and listen (won't help much if the enemy is already in position, but you might catch him moving up.) Coordinate with those around you to stop and listen at the same time so you know any engine noise is enemy.
Lastly, don't drive straight from the spawn point to the enemy base. That is the most likely avenue of approach and likely the only one the enemy has any defense on. It will cost you time to take a more indirect route, but it will probably get you behind the defending enemy.
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Not that I am a GV expert.... but there are a few 'features' in the game you may want consider.
1. Stop occasionally and shut off your engine. Listen for sounds of nmes. This is especially useful if you know they are close.
2. Record a film for about a minute. Tab out and look at that film. All players (including nme vechiles and planes) within 5k are listed. Note that you are very vulnerable while doing this.
3. SA in GV's is not so easy to come by. Typically (90% of the time) the enemy GV's will be at *your* spawn points or at theirs. Knowing this will get you in the general area to encounter them. Team work and communication are the most effective tools, but are not common.
4. Be sneaky. The best GV'ers (and I use the term loosely) know how to read the battle area, pick a good spot, and wait. Being able to hit in the first or second shot helps too, but that comes easier than SA. Knowing when to move is part of this as well.
5. Learn from your mistakes! This is a game and as such has it "own little world". When something does not work there is some reason and you had best change tactics.
Regards,
Malta
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Originally posted by stantond
2. Record a film for about a minute. Tab out and look at that film. All players (including nme vechiles and planes) within 5k are listed. Note that you are very vulnerable while doing this.
Yuck, this isnt a tactic this is an exploit.
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Originally posted by stantond
2. Record a film for about a minute. Tab out and look at that film. All players (including nme vechiles and planes) within 5k are listed. Note that you are very vulnerable while doing this.
Double click on their name and you can see where they are. That explains a few things about the game play
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Originally posted by stantond
2. Record a film for about a minute. Tab out and look at that film. All players (including nme vechiles and planes) within 5k are listed. Note that you are very vulnerable while doing this.
Apalled, well affronted at least... really not in the spirit of things.
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If your gonna play the game STAY in the game don't pop in and out to use a cheasy method of finding your nme's.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Duh! A game feature is just that. Use it or not at your "moral" discretion. "Game Morality" doesn't hold much weight in my opinion. If the feature was not intended to be used, it would have been removed.
Also, it's really not all that useful. Play the game how you want, but don't be preaching how it "should" be played, or what the "spirit" of the game is to me. Sometimes the truth hurts.
Screaming and hollering because someone spoke up to give away your 'edge' in the game won't make it go away. Get over it. :rolleyes:
Regards,
Malta
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Someone needs to stick with Play Station I think.
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BRING BACK THE ALT - TAB BUG!!!
PERK THE FILM RECORDER!!!!!
GIVE US EXPLODING FILM TAPES!!!
(This film will explode in 10 seconds.............)
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agreed :)
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Stantond,
That isn't a game feature, it is a Windows feature that you are using to exploit the game. If it were an intended feature you would be able to watch your films on the clipboard within the AH application. The fact that you have to task out of the AH application in order to use your "tactic" should tell you that it isn't a game feature.
Hitech,
Would it be possible to prevent the Film Viewer from launching if AH was already running, and AH from launching if the Film Viewer was already running?
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Originally posted by stantond
"Game Morality" doesn't hold much weight in my opinion.
Am I just one of a dying breed then, one who holds high the value of not if you win or lose but how the game is played?
Gentlemanly conduct, has a lovely ring to it.
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I know, can you rig the GV to explode or something if the film viewer starts up? Can ya? Or maybe a siren that gives away his position? OOh OOh, I know! Smoke pots! Bright colored smoke that goes off above the tank if he activates the film viewer!! Kinda like the dye in swimming pools that colors the water if you pee in it. :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Oh sure Gentlemanly conduct has its place, but so does embarassing the heck outta somebody for doing something so dweebish. Hehe.
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So,
I am the only person who knew about this? Wow! :rofl
Personally, I don't think it should be allowed. However, I don't think many other things in the game should be allowed either, but are. You see, I recognize AH as a game. Maybe some others are a 'little too close' to the game?
Btw, Alt-Tab to desktop is a game feature. As in, it is built into the game. I have no idea why this is allowed other than to enable the film viewer?
Saying something is dweebish (which I agree it is) will not make it go away.
Regards,
Malta
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The game is what we make it.
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Originally posted by stantond
Btw, Alt-Tab to desktop is a game feature. As in, it is built into the game. I have no idea why this is allowed other than to enable the film viewer?
Alt-tabbing is a standard feature of Windows applications. It has no specific purpose other than to allow you to run and access multiple applications at the same time.
For me, the only thing I use it in AH for is to access my web browser while in the tower or in autoclimb.
As to why I hadn't thought of it, well, I don't spend time trying to think of extra-game methods of identifying my opponents. I consider the game to be a contest of my skill and tactics against those of my opponent's. Not a contest to see who can figure out the best method's of subverting the game. Why do you think HiTech disabled the external views on GVs?
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Unfortunately, in a modern world that publishes "cheat codes" and hints and tips for almost every game imagineable on the internet for everyone to see, people have gotten used to finding ways round doing it right. Thing is, we dont have to react the same as everyone else and just say "thats how it is now", we can act as a community and decide we dont want this as a "feature". I'm sure if a big enough percentage of the subscriber base wants this particular "feature" disabled, it would get done. I cant really blame stantond for using something that works, even if the rest of us find it distasteful. I'm sure he's not the only one, and if he was I'm sure someone else will try it now. Just one more reason why I dont like GV's and one more reason to leave them to others. If you want to find me on your film, look up.
SA2.
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My goodness,
I really struck a nerve here. Breaking the code of silence does have its consequences. :D
I 'discovered' this 'feature' when I started filming GV runs because I could not figure out how I was getting killed. Maybe I am more observant than most? Maybe I have played alot of games and easily see a way a feature in the game can be used to your advantage.
I have no reservation or doubt that this feature is used in the game. I don't really use it much because I move when I GV unless I am spawn camping (yes, I vulch too). However, talking about this 'levels' the playing field IMO. Maybe, by talking about it, this feature will be removed?
Obviously, others don't feel that way.
Regards,
Malta
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Ill just make it the the film viewer cant run while the game is running.
HiTech
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No, its just that to me, doing what you are doing is like getting a newspaper just for the crossword puzzle and then reading half the answers off the next page where they show the completed one for people that cant figure it out. It defeats the whole purpose of creating an environment where you can hear directional sounds, where you have hills to hide behind, and trees that are really there and not just images you can drive (and shoot) right through. If playing that way is your thing, by all means go ahead. I think I've been in a GV of any kind like 3 or 4 times in the MA. Maybe twice that in the CT. So its not like it will affect me. Just dont sit here and tell us you dont like it either but you'll use it as long as its there. Doesnt get much more hypocritical than that.
Thanks Hitech!
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And this is Really! my last post on this thread,
Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
Just dont sit here and tell us you dont like it either but you'll use it as long as its there. Doesnt get much more hypocritical than that.
Or else?
Seriously though.
Tell you what, you shave your head and tatoo "handsomehunk" on it and I will play AH the way you think I should the remaining time I play. Ok?
Regards,
Malta
p.s. I think Hitech came up with an excellent solution to this issue!
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Touchy touchy! Now it seems I've hit a chord! lol
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what a lameo, lol
On a positive note, Your type gets bored quickly, and moves on
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The thought of using that film tactic for an advantage never even occured to me. Call me a man of integrity, but I pity anyone that would stoop to such a level to gain a slight advantage. However, it is your money, you get out of it whay you put into it. If you feel you need that advantage and you are comfortable with exploiting such a situation, the decision to do so is yours. Will I respect you for it....NO....Do you care if i respect you for it.....PROBABLY NOT....So where does that leave us?
Muttman
Sick Puppies
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Originally posted by stantond:
Tell you what, you shave your head and tatoo "handsomehunk" on it and I will play AH the way you think I should the remaining time I play. Ok?
Two questions:
1. Can the person who shaves his head and tattoo's "handsomehunk" get any say in how you play the game?
2. If this tattoo already exists, does it have to be written twice to get credit?
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It's not a feature, it's a crutch.
Originally posted by stantond
So,
I am the only person who knew about this? Wow! :rofl
Personally, I don't think it should be allowed. However, I don't think many other things in the game should be allowed either, but are. You see, I recognize AH as a game. Maybe some others are a 'little too close' to the game?
Btw, Alt-Tab to desktop is a game feature. As in, it is built into the game. I have no idea why this is allowed other than to enable the film viewer?
Saying something is dweebish (which I agree it is) will not make it go away.
Regards,
Malta
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I dont know whats worse..the "feature" or announcing it on the boards..may all your systems crash and u lose your tiger while watching intel instead of manning your gun.
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Originally posted by hitech
Ill just make it the the film viewer cant run while the game is running.
HiTech
I used to alt tab out to watch a film when I didnt know how I died or when I wasnt sure how someone made a certain move that ended up getting me killed.
With that said I can wait until my game session is done to view films if it stops an exploit.
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Great Solution HiTech to avoid this type of game 'exploit', 'feature' or whatever players wanna call it.
This is what I do anyway, I record my battles then logoff, grab a beer and then see in the film what happened.
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Originally posted by Bravo4
Great Solution HiTech to avoid this type of game 'exploit', 'feature' or whatever players wanna call it.
This is what I do anyway, I record my battles then logoff, grab a beer and then see in the film what happened.
hehe alot of times I watch films during my climbout.
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Originally posted by hitech
Ill just make it the the film viewer cant run while the game is running.
HiTech
WTG HiTECH!!! WHOOT!!!
I love you man!
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er, if you keep dying then you're not good enough.
try using a little sense and take cover in the ample vegetation provided.
a tank that drives straight at the enemy and then dies is not bad programing, its bad commanding.
When i do GV it, which is rare, i spend up to an hour sneaking around and finding a good spot. use your map and your tactical reserves to 'out think' your opponent. Stealth is the key.
use some brains instead of playing ground quake and you will find your success rate improves dramatically.