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Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: fuzeman on November 19, 2004, 02:57:35 PM
OK, didnt fly yesterday but loaded the new patch today and when online I noticed a unusual amount of UDP to TCP switching. When I ran a pingplot I noticed something I never have before. The listing of IPs between me and HTC are changing. I never noticed this before, they used to all stay the same and I'd use one rounte to communicate. Now I'm changing my route to HTC about every 2nd or 3rd ping.
Not being an expert on netstuff I was wondering if I just didn't notice this before or is something wacky going on. My assumption was we needed one consistant route to HTC using the same IPs allowing us to use UDP, is this correct?
Do the IPs in route to HTC change like that or is it the usualy wacky nature of the net?
Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: fuzeman on December 01, 2004, 06:53:45 PM
OK, ran a few pingplots and here are the results. IPs on hops 2,4,5,7 & 8 change every second or third ping wether I ping the 39 or 38 server, all these are on 39. I'm also still getting a loopback on hop #6 but I think that's a minor detail.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/211_1101947615_changingips.jpg)

Many thanks for the help and assistance. I run Win98se and use a dialup connection to Earthlink. If you need anything else let me know and I'll post or call you.
If needed the case # when I talked to the tech is 87537319.
Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: Skuzzy on December 09, 2004, 10:47:56 AM
wrag, I need some traces posted in this thread.  I am pointing Savvis at it to see if we can do some joint work on this issue.

Fuze, here is a trace back to you from 216.91.187.39 (actually, to the second hop, as it is a router).
traceroute to 63.212.200.3 (63.212.200.3), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  216.91.187.34 (216.91.187.34)  0.431 ms  0.349 ms  0.980 ms
 2  208.172.1.221 (208.172.1.221)  6.368 ms  6.324 ms  6.334 ms
 3  dcr2-so-2-2-0.Chicago.savvis.net (208.172.3.81)  6.519 ms  6.368 ms  6.408 ms
 4  bpr1-so-0-0-0.ChicagoEquinix.savvis.net (208.175.10.238)  6.495 ms  6.540 ms  6.581 ms
 5  ge-2-0-1.edge1.Chicago1.Level3.net (208.174.226.62)  6.531 ms ge-2-0-0.edge1.Chicago1.Level3.net (208.174.226.58)  6.830 ms  6.548 ms
 6  * * *
 7  64.159.4.177 (64.159.4.177)  29.807 ms so-0-1-0.mp2.Boston1.Level3.net (209.247.9.126)  29.811 ms 64.159.4.177 (64.159.4.177)  29.658 ms
 8  ge-11-0.hsa1.Boston1.Level3.net (4.68.100.36)  29.608 ms ge-10-2.hsa1.Boston1.Level3.net (4.68.100.132)  29.673 ms ge-11-0.hsa1.Boston1.Level3.net (4.68.100.36)  30.094 ms
 9  ge-7-0-1.hsa2.Boston1.Level3.net (63.212.200.3)  30.346 ms * ge-11-2.hsa2.Boston1.Level3.net (4.68.100.165)  29.948 ms

Pretty ugly.
Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: Skuzzy on December 09, 2004, 11:01:27 AM
This is from Pannzzer.  Another client.
====
Here's my ping stats, there's packet loss at Savvis.net:
(http://www.vaskuu.cx/riku/ping.png)

Oh, and normal ping times (MA) are at around 150 ms.
Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: Skuzzy on December 09, 2004, 11:05:44 AM
Here is a trace back from 216.91.187.39 to Pannzzer's second hop.
===
traceroute to 80.223.224.1 (80.223.224.1), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  216.91.187.34 (216.91.187.34)  0.541 ms  0.406 ms  0.322 ms
 2  at-0-2-901.usstls1-01.j20c.savvis.net (206.129.9.89)  0.680 ms  0.910 ms  0.721 ms
 3  208.172.163.133 (208.172.163.133)  20.385 ms  20.324 ms  20.224 ms
 4  dcr1-loopback.LosAngeles.savvis.net (208.172.34.107)  51.229 ms  51.200 ms  51.352 ms
 5  bpr1-so-0-0-0.LosAngelesEquinix.savvis.net (208.172.44.106)  51.145 ms  51.460 ms  101.340 ms
 6  las-bb1-so2-3-3.telia.net (208.174.196.2)  51.252 ms  51.299 ms  51.214 ms
 7  dls-bb1-pos0-0-0.telia.net (213.248.80.22)  85.606 ms  85.575 ms  85.602 ms
 8  213.248.80.150 (213.248.80.150)  77.550 ms  78.413 ms  78.154 ms
 9  nyk-bb2-pos7-1-0.telia.net (213.248.80.74)  77.446 ms  78.200 ms  77.907 ms
10  kbn-bb2-pos1-3-0.telia.net (213.248.64.33)  167.962 ms  167.854 ms  167.927 ms
11  s-bb2-pos7-0-0.telia.net (213.248.65.30)  175.861 ms  175.970 ms  175.857 ms
12  hls-b4-pos3-0-0.telia.net (213.248.64.138)  201.338 ms  181.834 ms  181.640 ms
13  soneracarrier-105059-hls-b4.c.telia.net (213.248.99.158)  186.361 ms  186.297 ms  186.325 ms
14  trecore1-so1-0-0.datanet.tele.fi (193.227.224.6)  192.972 ms  183.789 ms  183.881 ms
15  193.227.224.146 (193.227.224.146)  184.043 ms  183.848 ms  183.749 ms
16  141.208.206.106 (141.208.206.106)  184.648 ms  184.624 ms *
Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: straffo on December 09, 2004, 11:19:06 AM
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/33_1102612069_connexion.gif)


I can't say for sure when it started as I changed ISP 1 week ago :(

It's either pretty stable or completly porked ...


Btw Skuzzy did you got my email concerning my bill ?
Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: Skuzzy on December 09, 2004, 11:21:44 AM
This is a trace back to the third hop of the above PingPlot (attempting to trace to the second hop caused an immediate failure).
===
traceroute to 195.115.106.1 (195.115.106.1), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  216.91.187.34 (216.91.187.34)  0.422 ms  0.591 ms  0.462 ms
 2  208.172.1.221 (208.172.1.221)  6.324 ms  6.627 ms  6.486 ms
 3  dcr2-so-2-2-0.Chicago.savvis.net (208.172.3.81)  6.477 ms  6.454 ms  6.394 ms
 4  bpr1-so-0-0-0.ChicagoEquinix.savvis.net (208.175.10.238)  6.515 ms  6.617 ms  6.497 ms
 5  ge-2-0-0.edge1.Chicago1.Level3.net (208.174.226.58)  6.630 ms ge-2-0-1.edge1.Chicago1.Level3.net (208.174.226.62)  106.939 ms  6.511 ms
 6  so-2-1-0.bbr2.Chicago1.Level3.net (209.244.8.13)  6.760 ms  6.567 ms  6.577 ms
 7  so-2-0-0.bbr2.Washington1.Level3.net (209.247.10.130)  23.666 ms  23.869 ms  23.675 ms
 8  as-0-0.bbr1.London2.Level3.net (4.68.128.101)  97.580 ms  97.312 ms  114.287 ms
 9  so-3-0-0.mp2.Paris1.Level3.net (212.187.128.37)  102.682 ms so-1-0-0.mp1.Paris1.Level3.net (212.187.128.41)  102.695 ms  143.711 ms
10  ge-11-1.ipcolo2.Paris1.Level3.net (212.73.240.84)  102.448 ms ge-10-0.ipcolo2.Paris1.Level3.net (212.73.240.8)  102.469 ms ge-11-2.ipcolo2.Paris1.Level3.net (212.73.240.118)  102.379 ms
11  212.73.204.134 (212.73.204.134)  103.584 ms  103.379 ms  103.263 ms
12  80.124.170.19 (80.124.170.19)  103.548 ms  103.698 ms  104.674 ms
13  195.115.104.206 (195.115.104.206)  105.490 ms  105.751 ms  105.311 ms
14  195.115.106.1 (195.115.106.1)  105.260 ms *  105.042 ms
Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: Flyboy on December 09, 2004, 11:25:25 AM
what software do you use to generate those graphs?
Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: eta32 on December 09, 2004, 01:34:26 PM
Target Name: N/A
         IP: 216.91.187.39
  Date/Time: 12/9/2004 1:32:10 PM

 1    8 ms   13 ms   11 ms   10 ms   10 ms  [10.129.32.1]
 2    9 ms   *        9 ms   12 ms   11 ms  [68.11.12.89]
 3   11 ms   10 ms    9 ms   11 ms   13 ms  mctydsrc02-gew0304.rd.no.cox.net [68.11.14.17]
 4   10 ms   11 ms   10 ms    9 ms   12 ms  mctybbrc02-pos0101.rd.no.cox.net [68.1.0.68]
 5   22 ms   21 ms   24 ms   29 ms   21 ms  lkhnbbrc02-pos0102.rd.at.cox.net [68.1.0.10]
 6   26 ms   25 ms   24 ms   20 ms   23 ms  [12.124.65.61]
 7   22 ms   21 ms   35 ms   21 ms   23 ms  gbr5-p90.attga.ip.att.net [12.123.21.82]
 8   22 ms   24 ms   26 ms   24 ms   21 ms  tbr1-p013501.attga.ip.att.net [12.122.12.21]
 9   34 ms   25 ms   25 ms   21 ms   28 ms  ggr1-p340.attga.ip.att.net [12.122.12.30]
10   24 ms   22 ms   26 ms   29 ms   22 ms  dcr1-so-4-0-0.atlanta.savvis.net [192.205.32.118]
11  N/A     N/A     N/A     N/A      48 ms  dcr1-loopback.Chicago.savvis.net [208.172.2.99]
12   49 ms   49 ms  N/A     N/A      50 ms  acr2-so-0-0-0.Chicago.savvis.net [208.172.3.82]
13   64 ms   55 ms   59 ms   56 ms   59 ms  [208.172.1.202]
14   60 ms   59 ms   57 ms   57 ms   57 ms  [216.91.187.39]

Ping statistics for 216.91.187.39
Packets: Sent = 5, Received = 5, Lost = 0 (0.0%)
Round Trip Times: Minimum = 57ms, Maximum = 60ms, Average = 58ms
Title: Second Ping..
Post by: eta32 on December 09, 2004, 01:43:48 PM
Target Name: N/A
         IP: 216.91.187.39
  Date/Time: 12/9/2004 1:37:37 PM

 1   10 ms  [10.129.32.1]
 2   23 ms  [68.11.12.89]
 3   54 ms  mctydsrc01-gew0304.rd.no.cox.net [68.11.14.9]
 4  129 ms  mctybbrc01-pos0101.rd.no.cox.net [68.1.0.64]
 5   11 ms  mctybbrc02-pos0100.rd.no.cox.net [68.1.0.63]
 6  136 ms  lkhnbbrc02-pos0102.rd.at.cox.net [68.1.0.10]
 7   22 ms  [12.124.65.61]
 8   24 ms  gbr5-p90.attga.ip.att.net [12.123.21.82]
 9   22 ms  tbr1-p013501.attga.ip.att.net [12.122.12.21]
10   21 ms  ggr1-p340.attga.ip.att.net [12.122.12.30]
11   23 ms  dcr1-so-4-0-0.atlanta.savvis.net [192.205.32.118]
12   51 ms  dcr2-loopback.Chicago.savvis.net [208.172.2.100]
13   49 ms  acr2-so-1-0-0.Chicago.savvis.net [208.172.3.86]
14   59 ms  [208.172.1.202]
15   56 ms  [216.91.187.39]

Ping statistics for 216.91.187.39
Packets: Sent = 1, Received = 1, Lost = 0 (0.0%)
Round Trip Times: Minimum = 56ms, Maximum = 56ms, Average = 56ms
Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: Skuzzy on December 09, 2004, 01:45:13 PM
This is a traceroute back to your second hop eta, from 216.91.187.39.
====
traceroute to 68.11.12.89 (68.11.12.89), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  216.91.187.34 (216.91.187.34)  0.436 ms  0.537 ms  0.437 ms
 2  208.172.1.221 (208.172.1.221)  6.446 ms  30.134 ms  6.371 ms
 3  dcr1-so-2-3-0.Chicago.savvis.net (208.172.3.85)  6.327 ms  6.423 ms  6.386 ms
 4  savvis-gw.cgcil02ck4.ip.att.net (208.175.10.94)  6.693 ms  6.538 ms  6.667 ms
 5  tbr2-p012201.cgcil.ip.att.net (12.123.6.38)  7.094 ms  7.469 ms  7.265 ms
 6  tbr2-cl7.sl9mo.ip.att.net (12.122.10.46)  13.445 ms  13.349 ms  13.240 ms
 7  12.122.10.137 (12.122.10.137)  35.504 ms  33.945 ms  33.786 ms
 8  gbr6-p40.attga.ip.att.net (12.122.12.46)  32.958 ms  32.980 ms  32.967 ms
 9  gar3-p370.attga.ip.att.net (12.123.21.85)  33.043 ms  33.040 ms  33.064 ms
10  12.124.65.62 (12.124.65.62)  33.641 ms  41.059 ms  33.663 ms
11  mctybbrc02-pos0102.rd.no.cox.net (68.1.0.11)  44.586 ms  44.598 ms  44.442 ms
12  mctydsrc02-pos0901.rd.no.cox.net (68.1.0.69)  44.437 ms  44.483 ms  44.578 ms
13  68.11.12.89 (68.11.12.89)  44.748 ms  44.565 ms  44.513 ms
Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: Skuzzy on December 09, 2004, 03:16:03 PM
Look guys, I am trying to keep this thread free of discussion so Savvis personnel can read it.  It would be appreciated if you would move any discussions to another thread.  Thank you.
Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: Octavius on December 09, 2004, 03:41:36 PM
Not having connection problems, but I ran a tracert for the hell of it:

I'm in Milwaukee

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/52_1102627965_trace.jpg)
Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: Zuum on December 09, 2004, 03:42:27 PM
(http://www.rubricum.com/files/htc.jpg)
Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: Skuzzy on December 09, 2004, 03:59:27 PM
Zuum, this is a trace back to your second IP in your traceroute from 216.91.187.39;
=====
traceroute to 62.121.46.161 (62.121.46.161), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  216.91.187.34 (216.91.187.34)  0.812 ms  0.375 ms  0.399 ms
 2  208.172.1.221 (208.172.1.221)  6.631 ms  6.541 ms  6.348 ms
 3  dcr1-so-2-3-0.Chicago.savvis.net (208.172.3.85)  6.489 ms  6.455 ms  6.526 ms
 4  dcr1-loopback.Washington.savvis.net (206.24.226.99)  23.313 ms  23.509 ms  23.407 ms
 5  cable-and-wireless-americas-operations.Washington.savvis.net (206.24.238.18)  23.256 ms  23.234 ms  23.168 ms
 6  so-7-0-0-dcr1.nyk.cw.net (195.2.3.2)  27.978 ms  27.967 ms  28.647 ms
 7  so-2-0-0-dcr1.tsd.cw.net (195.2.10.114)  99.325 ms  98.963 ms  98.929 ms
 8  so-0-0-0-dcr2.amd.cw.net (195.2.10.145)  105.651 ms  105.809 ms  106.092 ms
 9  so-5-0-0-bcr3.amd.cw.net (195.2.10.85)  105.826 ms  105.695 ms  105.793 ms
10  so-1-0-0-ycr2.cpi.cw.net (208.173.211.234)  118.951 ms  118.929 ms  118.881 ms
11  so-2-0-0-ycr1.cpi.cw.net (208.173.216.1)  119.203 ms  119.049 ms  118.930 ms
12  so-1-0-0-ycr1.skt.cw.net (208.173.216.26)  127.227 ms  127.199 ms  127.257 ms
13  ge-1-3-0-zar1.skt.cw.net (166.63.220.147)  127.270 ms  127.249 ms  127.207 ms
14  finnet-verkot-oy1.stk.cw.net (166.63.220.82)  127.348 ms  127.339 ms  127.446 ms
15  217.78.198.233 (217.78.198.233)  132.866 ms  132.850 ms  132.835 ms
16  217.78.198.225 (217.78.198.225)  136.340 ms  136.062 ms  136.359 ms
17  adsl-gw-46.161.ssp.fi (62.121.46.161)  137.231 ms  137.272 ms  137.336 ms
Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: Skuzzy on December 09, 2004, 04:06:26 PM
Octavius, you may think you are not seeing any issues, but this trace back to your second hop is a mess.
===
traceroute to 24.160.224.225 (24.160.224.225), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  216.91.187.34 (216.91.187.34)  0.374 ms  0.365 ms  0.334 ms
 2  208.172.1.221 (208.172.1.221)  6.692 ms  6.440 ms  6.291 ms
 3  dcr2-so-2-2-0.Chicago.savvis.net (208.172.3.81)  6.352 ms  6.509 ms  6.406 ms
 4  bpr1-so-0-0-0.ChicagoEquinix.savvis.net (208.175.10.238)  6.516 ms  6.535 ms  6.564 ms
 5  ge-2-0-1.edge1.Chicago1.Level3.net (208.174.226.62)  6.600 ms ge-2-0-0.edge1.Chicago1.Level3.net (208.174.226.58)  6.598 ms  6.642 ms
 6  so-2-1-0.bbr2.Chicago1.Level3.net (209.244.8.13)  50.305 ms  6.652 ms  7.315 ms
 7  so-0-0-0.mp2.StLouis1.Level3.net (64.159.0.57)  12.099 ms so-3-0-0.mp1.StLouis1.Level3.net (64.159.0.49)  11.834 ms so-0-0-0.mp2.StLouis1.Level3.net (64.159.0.57)  11.888 ms
 8  ge-9-0.hsa1.StLouis1.Level3.net (64.159.0.62)  11.784 ms ge-7-2.hsa1.StLouis1.Level3.net (64.159.4.142)  11.756 ms ge-9-0.hsa1.StLouis1.Level3.net (64.159.0.62)  11.943 ms
 9  level3.cybercon.com (63.208.56.6)  22.115 ms  16.999 ms  16.877 ms
10  pos4-0.milwwirtco-rtr1.wi.rr.com (24.94.160.18)  34.583 ms *  34.630 ms


Note how hop 5 has two router addresses in it, and 7 is a mess also, as well as 8.  I tried three different traceroute programs and they all showed the exact same thing, from two different servers (216.91.187.39/216.91.187.38) running two different operating systems (Solaris/FreeBSD).
Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: JB73 on December 09, 2004, 05:57:23 PM
Skuzzy if this is helpful i live in a suburab of milwaukee like octavius

here's my plot:

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/180_1102636094_216.png)
Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: OOZ662 on December 09, 2004, 07:18:33 PM
Second connect loss in B24 (both times in B24, no warning exept loss of vox and text bar stops operating on both my end and theirs. This is about 2 min after loss with 30 retraces


Host Information
1,evrtwa1-ar12-4-10-248-001.evrtwa1.dsl-verizon.net,4.10.248.1
2, -------------- ,4.24.255.233
3,p7-0.evrtwa1-cr6.bbnplanet.net,4.0.79.129
4,p7-0.evrtwa1-br2.bbnplanet.net,4.24.9.125
5,so-5-1-0.mp2.Seattle1.Level3.net,4.68.127.81
6,ge-0-1-0.bbr1.SanJose1.Level3.net,64.159.1.129
7,so-7-0-0.edge1.SanJose1.Level3.net,209.244.3.142
8,bpr1-ge-7-0-0.SanJoseEquinix.savvis.net,208.173.54.73
9,dcr1-so-3-2-0.SanFranciscosfo.savvis.net,208.173.54.66
10,acr1.Denver.savvis.net,208.172.162.61
11, -------------- ,208.172.163.134
12, -------------- ,216.91.187.39

Sample Information
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"12/9/2004 5:23:12 PM",13,12,13,13,15,*,35,N/A,38,71,90,82
"12/9/2004 5:23:13 PM",13,15,*,15,35,34,*,N/A,38,73,92,83
"12/9/2004 5:23:14 PM",14,13,13,15,15,N/A,N/A,36,38,71,92,81
"12/9/2004 5:23:15 PM",13,14,13,12,16,N/A,N/A,41,38,70,*,83
"12/9/2004 5:23:16 PM",13,15,14,13,16,32,33,N/A,41,71,90,82
"12/9/2004 5:23:17 PM",13,12,14,12,39,N/A,N/A,N/A,36,71,89,80
"12/9/2004 5:23:18 PM",13,15,16,15,15,33,34,34,38,73,92,84
"12/9/2004 5:23:19 PM",15,14,15,15,14,34,37,37,39,74,92,81
"12/9/2004 5:23:20 PM",13,14,14,13,16,N/A,N/A,35,36,72,92,82
"12/9/2004 5:23:21 PM",14,15,15,15,17,33,38,N/A,38,71,93,83
"12/9/2004 5:23:22 PM",14,13,15,15,15,N/A,N/A,37,39,72,128,82
"12/9/2004 5:23:23 PM",12,14,13,14,14,30,37,N/A,38,72,90,82
"12/9/2004 5:23:24 PM",13,15,13,15,100,33,36,N/A,41,73,93,82
"12/9/2004 5:23:25 PM",14,13,14,14,16,N/A,N/A,31,37,71,91,80
"12/9/2004 5:23:26 PM",11,12,15,15,18,N/A,N/A,34,38,73,91,84
"12/9/2004 5:23:27 PM",13,15,15,15,15,N/A,N/A,N/A,42,71,93,81
"12/9/2004 5:23:28 PM",14,12,14,13,16,N/A,N/A,N/A,37,72,91,82
"12/9/2004 5:23:29 PM",14,15,14,14,15,34,39,42,40,73,91,82


(http://www.shelteringwings.com/images/AH2/OOZ662_trace.png)
Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: wrag on December 09, 2004, 08:27:08 PM
OK found a host site for pictures



(http://usera.imagecave.com/wrag/savis2.jpg)[/IMG] (http://usera.imagecave.com/wrag/Savvis2.jpg)[/IMG] (http://usera.imagecave.com/wrag/savis1.jpg)[/IMG] (http://usera.imagecave.com/wrag/San1.jpg)[/IMG]
Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: OOZ662 on December 10, 2004, 12:27:40 AM
Just did a retrace before bed, showed packet loss at savvis this time.

Host Information
1,evrtwa1-ar12-4-10-248-001.evrtwa1.dsl-verizon.net,4.10.248.1
2, -------------- ,4.24.255.233
3,p7-0.evrtwa1-cr6.bbnplanet.net,4.0.79.129
4,p7-0.evrtwa1-br2.bbnplanet.net,4.24.9.125
5,so-5-1-0.mp2.Seattle1.Level3.net,4.68.127.81
6,so-0-2-0.bbr2.SanJose1.Level3.net,64.159.0.218
7,so-6-0-0.edge1.SanJose1.Level3.net,209.244.3.138
8,bpr1-ge-7-0-0.SanJoseEquinix.savvis.net,208.173.54.73
9,dcr1-so-3-2-0.SanFranciscosfo.savvis.net,208.173.54.66
10,acr1.Denver.savvis.net,208.172.162.61
11, -------------- ,208.172.163.134
12, -------------- ,216.91.187.39

Sample Information
"12/9/2004 10:23:42 PM",12,14,14,*,13,*,31,31,32,71,93,84
"12/9/2004 10:23:45 PM",12,16,15,14,17,32,33,*,36,71,93,81
"12/9/2004 10:23:48 PM",15,15,15,15,15,33,N/A,N/A,34,73,93,83
"12/9/2004 10:23:51 PM",14,16,15,14,16,N/A,N/A,N/A,36,71,92,81
"12/9/2004 10:23:54 PM",15,13,15,13,15,33,34,N/A,34,72,92,82
"12/9/2004 10:23:57 PM",12,13,15,14,16,N/A,N/A,N/A,33,73,93,81
"12/9/2004 10:24:00 PM",14,15,15,14,22,31,30,N/A,35,71,92,80
"12/9/2004 10:24:03 PM",13,14,13,14,14,N/A,31,33,34,71,91,80
"12/9/2004 10:24:06 PM",12,14,13,12,15,30,32,31,35,70,89,81
"12/9/2004 10:24:09 PM",14,12,13,13,15,N/A,N/A,31,32,74,90,79
"12/9/2004 10:24:12 PM",11,14,14,16,13,34,35,34,34,73,93,82
"12/9/2004 10:24:15 PM",16,15,16,15,17,N/A,N/A,N/A,36,73,92,84
"12/9/2004 10:24:18 PM",15,14,15,13,16,33,34,34,36,73,92,82
"12/9/2004 10:24:21 PM",14,13,13,15,15,N/A,N/A,33,35,72,120,82
"12/9/2004 10:24:24 PM",15,13,15,12,15,31,34,N/A,35,73,91,82
"12/9/2004 10:24:27 PM",12,14,14,14,16,N/A,34,32,33,73,92,80
"12/9/2004 10:24:30 PM",14,13,14,14,15,31,33,32,33,71,91,80
"12/9/2004 10:24:33 PM",14,13,13,14,15,30,32,31,34,71,90,81
"12/9/2004 10:24:36 PM",12,14,14,14,13,32,33,31,33,71,91,80
"12/9/2004 10:24:39 PM",12,11,15,14,14,N/A,N/A,N/A,36,73,91,83
"12/9/2004 10:24:42 PM",15,16,15,15,16,31,33,N/A,35,73,92,83
"12/9/2004 10:24:45 PM",14,15,15,15,18,N/A,N/A,N/A,36,72,90,82
"12/9/2004 10:24:48 PM",15,13,15,13,16,32,88,32,35,74,92,82
"12/9/2004 10:24:51 PM",13,15,15,15,14,N/A,N/A,33,36,72,90,81
"12/9/2004 10:24:54 PM",13,12,14,13,15,31,32,N/A,35,73,91,82
"12/9/2004 10:24:57 PM",12,13,14,14,16,N/A,N/A,N/A,34,72,91,80
"12/9/2004 10:25:00 PM",12,14,12,12,14,30,32,31,35,70,89,81
"12/9/2004 10:25:03 PM",13,12,14,13,16,N/A,N/A,N/A,32,71,91,79
"12/9/2004 10:25:06 PM",12,13,12,14,14,N/A,N/A,N/A,32,72,92,82
"12/9/2004 10:25:09 PM",14,16,12,16,16,32,34,32,37,72,92,83
Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: DieAz on December 10, 2004, 12:55:57 PM
Host Information
1,my.router,192.168.1.1
2,66-44-240-1.dyn.dsl.yadtel.net,66.44.240.1
3,gw.yadtel.net,66.226.32.1
4,sl-gw19-rly-7-0-TS9.sprintlink.net,160.81.221.85
5,sl-bb23-rly-3-1.sprintlink.net,144.232.14.41
6,sl-st20-ash-11-0.sprintlink.net,144.232.20.150
7,sl-st21-ash-12-0.sprintlink.net,144.232.19.241
8,cpr1-pos6-0.VirginiaEquinix.savvis.net,208.173.50.165
9,dcr1-so-4-2-0.Washington.savvis.net,206.24.238.97
10,dcr1-loopback.Chicago.savvis.net,208.172.2.99
11,acr2-so-0-0-0.Chicago.savvis.net,208.172.3.82
12, -------------- ,208.172.1.202
13, -------------- ,216.91.187.39

Sample Information
"12/10/2004 1:35:47 PM",0,15,16,25,27,189,36,26,27,N/A,N/A,77,53
"12/10/2004 1:35:57 PM",0,15,15,33,27,31,26,26,28,45,46,75,53
"12/10/2004 1:36:07 PM",0,15,16,25,24,26,27,45,29,44,45,71,52
"12/10/2004 1:36:17 PM",0,16,18,26,28,32,28,28,28,N/A,N/A,72,54
"12/10/2004 1:36:27 PM",0,15,16,25,25,26,26,26,27,N/A,N/A,72,50
"12/10/2004 1:36:37 PM",0,15,15,26,30,26,26,27,27,N/A,N/A,72,51
"12/10/2004 1:36:47 PM",0,16,16,27,25,27,168,27,27,N/A,N/A,72,51
"12/10/2004 1:36:57 PM",0,15,16,25,25,50,27,27,30,47,45,72,53
"12/10/2004 1:37:07 PM",0,16,16,25,25,26,26,26,29,48,45,71,51
"12/10/2004 1:37:17 PM",0,15,15,25,25,27,27,124,29,N/A,N/A,72,55
"12/10/2004 1:37:27 PM",0,16,16,24,27,27,28,26,28,N/A,N/A,72,51
"12/10/2004 1:37:37 PM",0,16,20,25,24,26,28,28,27,48,N/A,73,51
"12/10/2004 1:37:47 PM",0,16,15,26,166,28,27,28,27,46,N/A,72,51
"12/10/2004 1:37:57 PM",0,16,16,27,68,26,78,28,28,44,49,73,50
"12/10/2004 1:38:07 PM",0,16,16,25,30,66,27,33,29,48,47,74,52
"12/10/2004 1:38:17 PM",0,15,16,25,24,30,30,28,29,N/A,N/A,73,50
"12/10/2004 1:38:27 PM",0,16,16,28,26,26,26,26,29,N/A,N/A,71,52
"12/10/2004 1:38:37 PM",0,15,16,270,267,269,275,272,279,N/A,300,330,308
"12/10/2004 1:38:47 PM",0,16,15,223,221,223,219,214,216,237,239,270,247
"12/10/2004 1:38:57 PM",0,15,16,27,68,26,28,29,32,49,45,72,51
"12/10/2004 1:39:07 PM",0,16,16,26,46,28,79,32,28,46,46,95,52
"12/10/2004 1:39:17 PM",0,16,16,257,255,463,292,253,251,267,268,303,285
"12/10/2004 1:39:27 PM",0,15,15,27,25,26,26,48,29,N/A,N/A,73,55
"12/10/2004 1:39:37 PM",0,16,16,24,26,26,28,26,27,N/A,45,72,51
"12/10/2004 1:39:47 PM",0,15,16,25,26,29,26,29,28,N/A,N/A,72,51
"12/10/2004 1:39:57 PM",0,16,16,24,86,28,27,27,27,N/A,N/A,123,52
"12/10/2004 1:40:07 PM",0,15,16,24,29,26,25,27,28,N/A,N/A,72,51
"12/10/2004 1:40:17 PM",0,16,15,24,201,27,59,26,27,N/A,44,71,50
"12/10/2004 1:40:27 PM",0,15,16,24,24,27,27,26,28,N/A,N/A,72,50
"12/10/2004 1:40:37 PM",0,16,16,24,25,26,26,159,27,N/A,N/A,71,51
"12/10/2004 1:40:47 PM",0,15,16,25,24,36,27,26,27,N/A,N/A,151,50
"12/10/2004 1:40:57 PM",0,16,16,24,25,27,54,26,28,N/A,N/A,71,50
"12/10/2004 1:41:07 PM",0,15,17,25,25,26,27,27,30,45,48,72,51
"12/10/2004 1:41:17 PM",0,15,19,24,26,26,27,26,27,47,N/A,73,51
"12/10/2004 1:41:27 PM",0,15,16,25,225,87,53,27,28,45,46,77,52
"12/10/2004 1:41:37 PM",0,15,15,26,25,39,26,26,27,45,45,71,52
"12/10/2004 1:41:47 PM",0,16,16,25,26,26,26,29,27,45,45,73,50
"12/10/2004 1:41:57 PM",0,15,16,25,24,28,26,27,27,45,N/A,72,51
"12/10/2004 1:42:07 PM",0,16,16,25,25,26,26,28,27,N/A,N/A,71,50
"12/10/2004 1:42:17 PM",0,15,15,25,25,27,27,28,27,N/A,N/A,74,50
"12/10/2004 1:42:27 PM",0,16,16,24,24,26,27,27,26,N/A,N/A,71,50
"12/10/2004 1:42:37 PM",0,15,17,24,73,167,158,27,27,N/A,N/A,72,51
"12/10/2004 1:42:47 PM",0,15,16,25,26,26,27,38,27,45,45,71,51
"12/10/2004 1:42:57 PM",0,15,16,24,36,26,26,26,27,44,N/A,72,51
"12/10/2004 1:43:07 PM",0,15,16,25,26,27,27,27,28,45,45,72,51
"12/10/2004 1:43:17 PM",0,17,16,24,25,26,44,27,29,45,44,73,51
"12/10/2004 1:43:27 PM",0,15,15,27,25,27,26,27,28,46,45,72,51
"12/10/2004 1:43:37 PM",0,16,16,25,25,26,26,27,27,45,N/A,71,51
"12/10/2004 1:43:47 PM",0,15,15,24,134,236,141,27,30,45,44,72,51
"12/10/2004 1:43:57 PM",0,16,16,24,270,26,27,52,27,57,45,72,50


(http://members.aol.com/biggs2469/pics/ping)

edit: to post the pic
Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: Scrap on December 11, 2004, 03:58:38 PM
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-12/903579/PingPlot1.JPG)

Usually don't play behind this router...

This looks like a real mess.  I have been having lag/net issues for a few weeks on this RR account.  Been using my dialup account to play lately.  Even on the FrogNet dialup I seem to have issues with the Savis chicago routers.  Frognet uses the Quest network as a backbone provider (FYI).
Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: Zuum on December 11, 2004, 04:47:05 PM
Oops...I shame myself:(
So far, I understand, i actually have pretty good connections to HTC.
The question is not the Ping...:-)
Question and the problem is temporarely packet loss in savvis.net
sry, Skuzzy...
Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: 38ruk on December 12, 2004, 10:57:07 PM
thx skuzzy this is from buffalo ny


Host Information
1,,-
2, -------------- ,63.152.18.254
3, -------------- ,63.151.18.193
4,bos-core-02.inet.qwest.net,205.171.28.33
5,jfk-core-01.inet.qwest.net,205.171.8.18
6,jfk-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net,205.171.30.14
7,dcr3-so-6-1-0.NewYork.savvis.net,206.24.195.149
8,dcr1-loopback.Chicago.savvis.net,208.172.2.99
9,acr2-so-0-0-0.Chicago.savvis.net,208.172.3.82
10, -------------- ,208.172.1.202
11, -------------- ,216.91.187.39

Sample Information
"12/12/2004 10:17:49 PM",*,116,114,119,118,119,117,183,155,189,167
"12/12/2004 10:17:51 PM",*,107,110,110,123,120,118,N/A,140,178,156
"12/12/2004 10:17:54 PM",*,110,111,124,122,118,123,145,143,178,170
"12/12/2004 10:17:56 PM",*,107,109,110,118,118,121,153,152,196,149
"12/12/2004 10:17:59 PM",*,209,200,181,172,229,206,N/A,N/A,191,168
"12/12/2004 10:18:01 PM",*,110,110,111,123,123,116,N/A,N/A,209,160
Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: animal42 on December 13, 2004, 09:16:22 PM
Target Name: N/A
         IP: 216.91.187.39
  Date/Time: 12/13/2004 10:10:24 PM

 1   56 ms   15 ms   16 ms   14 ms   10 ms   13 ms  [10.25.128.1]
 2   14 ms   17 ms    8 ms    7 ms    8 ms    9 ms  dstswr1-vlan2.rh.islpny.cv.net [167.206.35.33]
 3   10 ms    8 ms    8 ms   11 ms    9 ms   10 ms  r3-ge10-2.mhe.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.35.1]
 4   11 ms   10 ms   10 ms   18 ms   10 ms   10 ms  r1-srp0-0.wan.hcvlny.cv.net [65.19.104.193]
 5   10 ms    9 ms   10 ms   11 ms   11 ms    8 ms  r1-srp1-0.in.nycmny83.cv.net [65.19.96.53]
 6   14 ms   12 ms   10 ms    9 ms   44 ms   10 ms  dcr3-so-5-3-0.NewYork.savvis.net [206.24.207.25]
 7   34 ms -32764 ms  134 ms   33 ms -32764 ms   34 ms  dcr1-loopback.Chicago.savvis.net [208.172.2.99]
 8   33 ms -32764 ms -32764 ms   32 ms -32764 ms   31 ms  acr2-so-0-0-0.Chicago.savvis.net [208.172.3.82]
 9   39 ms   38 ms   36 ms   38 ms   37 ms   38 ms  [208.172.1.202]
10   45 ms   39 ms   37 ms   38 ms   39 ms   40 ms  [216.91.187.39]

has been slow to load for a month or so, since last patch I only get into the arena if I'm lucky
from LongIsland N.Y.
Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: Scrap on December 14, 2004, 02:15:04 AM
So what's up with all of this?  I have been having packet loss with Savvis for like a month or so as well.  If I had spyware or a virus I would have found the darn thing by now.  I am almost never able to fly anymore.  Most of my time is spent waching my connection and hoping it gets better.  Things will be fine at times and horrible moments later.  This is REALLY frusterating.  I have more current PingPlots (using RoadRunner w/o a home router and I also have one using my Dialup) if necessary Skuzz.
Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: Skuzzy on December 16, 2004, 02:43:45 PM
Still chasing it down, but making some progress.  More information from other players would be helpful.
Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: Skuzzy on December 16, 2004, 02:46:46 PM
From Purzel:
------
Target Name: N/A
IP: 216.91.187.39
Date/Time: 16.12.2004 20:00:08

1 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms schaf.mshome.net [192.168.0.1]
2 59 ms 75 ms 72 ms 60 ms 62 ms 61 ms 64 ms 73 ms 63 ms 66 ms [217.5.98.140]
3 57 ms 58 ms 57 ms 58 ms 58 ms 58 ms 58 ms 57 ms 56 ms 58 ms [217.237.156.82]
4 76 ms 79 ms 78 ms 77 ms 77 ms 79 ms 77 ms 77 ms 77 ms 78 ms isp-linx-gw13-o.nmc-m.dtag.de [217.239.38.241]
5 77 ms 77 ms 76 ms 81 ms 77 ms 76 ms 91 ms 79 ms 78 ms 82 ms bcr1-ge-6-1-0.Londonlnx.savvis.net [206.24.169.5]
6 679 ms 684 ms 671 ms 678 ms 681 ms 682 ms 665 ms 671 ms 676 ms 671 ms dcr2-loopback.Chicago.savvis.net [208.172.2.100]
7 679 ms 684 ms 673 ms 679 ms 681 ms 682 ms 666 ms 670 ms 676 ms 672 ms acr2-so-0-0-0.Chicago.savvis.net [208.172.3.82]
8 227 ms 228 ms 227 ms 228 ms 228 ms 228 ms 226 ms 228 ms 226 ms 227 ms [208.172.1.202]
9 228 ms 229 ms 228 ms 227 ms 229 ms 229 ms 227 ms 226 ms 227 ms 228 ms [216.91.187.39]


Without Problems:

Target Name: N/A
IP: 216.91.187.39
Date/Time: 16.12.2004 20:04:36

1 0 ms schaf.mshome.net [192.168.0.1]
2 60 ms [217.5.98.140]
3 69 ms [217.237.156.82]
4 93 ms isp-linx-gw13-o.nmc-m.dtag.de [217.239.38.241]
5 78 ms bcr1-ge-6-1-0.Londonlnx.savvis.net [206.24.169.5]
6 678 ms dcr2-loopback.Chicago.savvis.net [208.172.2.100]
7 672 ms acr2-so-0-0-0.Chicago.savvis.net [208.172.3.82]
8 236 ms [208.172.1.202]
9 227 ms [216.91.187.39]
Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: Lye-El on December 16, 2004, 05:06:02 PM
I have been getting discoed also. I tried to past a ping plotter image but the board wouldn't let me so I sent this which it would accept.

LyeEl


Target Name: N/A
         IP: 216.91.187.39
  Date/Time: 12/16/2004 5:53:35 PM

 1   *       42 ms   33 ms   *       48 ms   83 ms   24 ms   20 ms   *       75 ms   51 ms   39 ms   60 ms   26 ms   25 ms   27 ms   70 ms   52 ms   37 ms   70 ms  Cas-Tower-L3-Sta.inet.crystalauto.com [172.16.14.1]
 2   80 ms   37 ms   54 ms   *       35 ms   58 ms  120 ms   27 ms   70 ms   60 ms   32 ms   10 ms   32 ms   *       35 ms   *       43 ms   66 ms   40 ms   51 ms  Cas-RTR-Sta.inet.crystalauto.com [172.16.1.1]
 3 1873 ms  390 ms  386 ms   *      478 ms  466 ms   *       *      509 ms   *      474 ms  435 ms  538 ms  611 ms  733 ms  593 ms   *      574 ms  811 ms  664 ms  chi-edge-09.inet.qwest.net [65.114.126.73]
 4   *      377 ms  428 ms  582 ms  450 ms   *       *       *      509 ms  552 ms  477 ms  411 ms   *       *       *      588 ms  605 ms  547 ms   *      671 ms  chi-core-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.20.121]
 5 1846 ms  377 ms  450 ms  609 ms  459 ms  527 ms   *       *      502 ms  536 ms  542 ms  513 ms   *       *      730 ms  641 ms   *      525 ms   *      673 ms  chi-core-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.20.170]
 6   *      410 ms   *       *      506 ms  535 ms   *      730 ms   *       *      547 ms   *      481 ms   *       *      620 ms  574 ms   *       *      686 ms  cer-core-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.205.34]
 7   *      403 ms  559 ms  623 ms  528 ms  554 ms  630 ms   *      490 ms   *      530 ms   *       *      577 ms  738 ms  652 ms   *       *      761 ms  669 ms  chp-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.139.146]
 8 1818 ms  375 ms   *      733 ms  499 ms  551 ms  619 ms   *      462 ms   *       *       *      543 ms   *       *       *      625 ms   *       *      652 ms  bpr1-so-5-0-0.ChicagoEquinix.savvis.net [208.174.226.29]
 9 1845 ms  347 ms  639 ms  722 ms   *      541 ms  596 ms   *      439 ms  495 ms   *       *      516 ms   *      725 ms  682 ms   *       *      719 ms  626 ms  dcr2-so-4-3-0.Chicago.savvis.net [208.175.10.237]
10 1834 ms  361 ms   *      782 ms  548 ms  514 ms   *      675 ms   *      474 ms  518 ms  569 ms  500 ms  515 ms  701 ms   *      631 ms   *       *      599 ms  acr2-so-0-0-0.Chicago.savvis.net [208.172.3.82]
11   *       *       *      802 ms  582 ms   *      576 ms  678 ms  512 ms   *      541 ms  566 ms  607 ms   *       *      687 ms  631 ms   *      767 ms   *      [208.172.1.202]
12   *       *      610 ms   *      527 ms  509 ms  545 ms   *      478 ms  540 ms   *      519 ms  536 ms   *       *       *       *      585 ms   *      637 ms  [216.91.187.39]
Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: Skuzzy on December 16, 2004, 05:22:12 PM
Lye, you have a different problem.  Your packet loss is occurring in your first hop, which is your computer.  Something is happening on your connection.
Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: Skuzzy on December 18, 2004, 07:32:05 AM
From 38ruk
-------
Host Information
1,,-
2, -------------- ,63.152.18.254
3, -------------- ,63.151.18.193
4,bos-core-02.inet.qwest.net,205.171.28.33
5,jfk-core-01.inet.qwest.net,205.171.8.18
6,jfk-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net,205.171.30.14
7,dcr3-so-6-1-0.NewYork.savvis.net,206.24.195.149
8,dcr1-loopback.Chicago.savvis.net,208.172.2.99
9,acr2-so-0-0-0.Chicago.savvis.net,208.172.3.82
10, -------------- ,208.172.1.202
11, -------------- ,216.91.187.39

Sample Information
"12/12/2004 10:17:49 PM",*,116,114,119,118,119,117,183,155,189,167
"12/12/2004 10:17:51 PM",*,107,110,110,123,120,118,N/A,140,178,156
"12/12/2004 10:17:54 PM",*,110,111,124,122,118,123,145,143,178,170
"12/12/2004 10:17:56 PM",*,107,109,110,118,118,121,153,152,196,149
"12/12/2004 10:17:59 PM",*,209,200,181,172,229,206,N/A,N/A,191,168
"12/12/2004 10:18:01 PM",*,110,110,111,123,123,116,N/A,N/A,209,160
Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: AKDogg on December 19, 2004, 09:14:21 PM
Ok, now I been getting disco'd alot lately but my delay and var are good.  Take a look.

Target Name: N/A
         IP: 216.91.187.39
  Date/Time: 12/19/2004 10:01:29 PM to 12/19/2004 10:01:38 PM

 1   19 ms   18 ms   17 ms   18 ms   17 ms   16 ms   18 ms   18 ms   20 ms   18 ms  dsl-router.dsl.enter.net [216.193.136.1]
 2   17 ms   19 ms   17 ms   17 ms   18 ms   18 ms   21 ms   18 ms   18 ms   16 ms  dsl-router.dsl.enter.net [216.193.136.1]
 3   18 ms   19 ms   19 ms   18 ms   20 ms   18 ms   17 ms   19 ms   18 ms   19 ms  c75-fe4-1-1.enter.net [216.193.129.241]
 4   22 ms   21 ms   22 ms   22 ms   24 ms  152 ms  236 ms   52 ms   72 ms  N/A     bar1-serial6-1-0.Philadelphiaphy.savvis.net [208.172.20.205]
 5   22 ms   22 ms   20 ms   22 ms   21 ms   20 ms   22 ms   23 ms   23 ms   23 ms  acr2-fe-6-2-0.Philadelphiaphy.savvis.net [208.172.19.61]
 6   44 ms   42 ms   41 ms   43 ms   42 ms   63 ms   43 ms   42 ms   41 ms   43 ms  dcr1-loopback.Chicago.savvis.net [208.172.2.99]
 7   44 ms   42 ms   42 ms   43 ms   43 ms   41 ms   43 ms   44 ms   41 ms   43 ms  acr2-so-1-0-0.Chicago.savvis.net [208.172.3.86]
 8   50 ms   49 ms   50 ms   50 ms   49 ms   48 ms   50 ms   49 ms   48 ms   49 ms  [208.172.1.202]
 9   46 ms   48 ms   47 ms   49 ms   48 ms   47 ms   49 ms   47 ms   47 ms  N/A     [216.91.187.39]

Ping statistics for 216.91.187.39
Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 10, Lost = 0 (0.0%)
Round Trip Times: Minimum = 46ms, Maximum = 49ms, Average = 47ms

Target Name: N/A
         IP: 216.91.187.39
  Date/Time: 12/19/2004 10:02:43 PM to 12/19/2004 10:02:52 PM

 1   19 ms   18 ms   19 ms   19 ms   17 ms   19 ms   18 ms   20 ms   21 ms   18 ms  dsl-router.dsl.enter.net [216.193.136.1]
 2   19 ms   18 ms   17 ms   19 ms   18 ms   17 ms   19 ms   19 ms   19 ms   19 ms  dsl-router.dsl.enter.net [216.193.136.1]
 3   18 ms   19 ms   19 ms   18 ms   19 ms   18 ms   18 ms   19 ms   18 ms   18 ms  c75-fe4-1-1.enter.net [216.193.129.241]
 4   46 ms  125 ms   22 ms   21 ms   21 ms   24 ms   21 ms   20 ms   32 ms   22 ms  bar1-serial6-1-0.Philadelphiaphy.savvis.net [208.172.20.205]
 5   23 ms   21 ms   23 ms   22 ms   21 ms   22 ms   22 ms   21 ms   23 ms   22 ms  acr2-fe-6-2-0.Philadelphiaphy.savvis.net [208.172.19.61]
 6   43 ms   42 ms   45 ms   43 ms   43 ms  128 ms   42 ms   42 ms  106 ms   42 ms  dcr1-loopback.Chicago.savvis.net [208.172.2.99]
 7   44 ms   43 ms   44 ms   43 ms   42 ms   44 ms   43 ms   42 ms   44 ms   44 ms  acr2-so-1-0-0.Chicago.savvis.net [208.172.3.86]
 8   47 ms   49 ms   49 ms   51 ms   48 ms   48 ms   50 ms   *       48 ms   69 ms  [208.172.1.202]
 9   49 ms   48 ms   47 ms   48 ms   48 ms   46 ms   46 ms   48 ms   47 ms   46 ms  [216.91.187.39]

Ping statistics for 216.91.187.39
Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 10, Lost = 0 (0.0%)
Round Trip Times: Minimum = 46ms, Maximum = 49ms, Average = 47ms

Target Name: N/A
         IP: 216.91.187.39
  Date/Time: 12/19/2004 10:03:09 PM to 12/19/2004 10:03:18 PM

 1   18 ms   17 ms   19 ms   18 ms   20 ms   18 ms   18 ms   22 ms   18 ms  N/A     dsl-router.dsl.enter.net [216.193.136.1]
 2   19 ms   18 ms   20 ms   19 ms   19 ms   20 ms   19 ms   17 ms   19 ms  N/A     dsl-router.dsl.enter.net [216.193.136.1]
 3   17 ms   20 ms   18 ms   19 ms   18 ms   18 ms   *       18 ms   18 ms  N/A     c75-fe4-1-1.enter.net [216.193.129.241]
 4   23 ms   23 ms   22 ms   21 ms   22 ms   21 ms   21 ms   23 ms   22 ms  N/A     bar1-serial6-1-0.Philadelphiaphy.savvis.net [208.172.20.205]
 5   22 ms   23 ms   22 ms   22 ms   23 ms   23 ms   21 ms   24 ms   22 ms  N/A     acr2-fe-6-2-0.Philadelphiaphy.savvis.net [208.172.19.61]
 6   43 ms   42 ms   43 ms   43 ms   44 ms   62 ms   43 ms   44 ms   43 ms  N/A     dcr1-loopback.Chicago.savvis.net [208.172.2.99]
 7   43 ms   42 ms   41 ms   45 ms   42 ms   45 ms   42 ms   43 ms   43 ms  N/A     acr2-so-1-0-0.Chicago.savvis.net [208.172.3.86]
 8   49 ms   49 ms   50 ms   49 ms   49 ms   *       48 ms   48 ms   81 ms  N/A     [208.172.1.202]
 9   45 ms   48 ms   47 ms   48 ms   47 ms   46 ms   48 ms   47 ms   49 ms  N/A     [216.91.187.39]

Ping statistics for 216.91.187.39
Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 10, Lost = 0 (0.0%)
Round Trip Times: Minimum = 45ms, Maximum = 49ms, Average = 47ms

Now while doing these tests I did notice some packet loss but was like 10% at savis but not all the time, very random and not that frequent.  Today I got disco'd 3 times in less than 10 mins.  These pingplots were done right after the 3rd disco.  Yesterday during the Koth-toc, I got disco'd 7 times before I said that enough and logged for the night.
Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: WMLute on December 20, 2004, 03:57:40 AM
ok here's mine.  I wish i'd gotten a screen shot of my 1st ping plot RIGHT after i logged from AH.  had over 30% packet loss.

Here is 5min later.

(http://members.cox.net/cvarley/AHPing/216.91.187.38a.png)
(http://members.cox.net/cvarley/AHPing/216.91.187.38b.png)
(http://members.cox.net/cvarley/AHPing/216.91.187.38c.png)

I noticed my 7th hop kept changing IP's on me.
Please let me know if my connection hosed, 'cause at least I can blame my flying on it

(edited) I ALSO noticed that my pings to the MA didn't show packet loss (i'll run a loooong ping later today to dbl check this), but using the "All other arenas: 216.91.187.38 " i.p. ALWAYS showed packet loss.
Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: 214thCavalier on December 20, 2004, 04:35:50 AM
Also noting route changes and my usual ping is around 120 to 125 although been like this for a few weeks now.

(http://www.uni.nildram.co.uk/dlfiles/aceshigh.gif)
Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: koda76 on December 20, 2004, 12:18:52 PM
I don't have a current trace because for the past 2 years I have had the same issues with discos as a result of being dropped by savvis either in denver or dallas....so I just quit taking traces as they all looked the same....(Skuzzy and I have ran this down before) and I get discoed every time I log on...so far 31 discos this month....and I would say thats avg......yet if you look at all of my squadies they have 0 discos. As a process manager who has a background in packet switching it is a shame such service is being deployed.
Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: WMLute on December 21, 2004, 01:38:42 AM
I was wrong 'bout it only being the SEA ip.  the following are a couple MA pings after having horrible MA experience.

(http://members.cox.net/cvarley/AHPing/resolving%20host%20name.png)
(http://members.cox.net/cvarley/AHPing/216.91.187.39f.png)
Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: GScholz on December 21, 2004, 04:00:26 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Flyboy
what software do you use to generate those graphs?


http://www.pingplotter.com :)
Title: UDP loss and IPs between me and HTC
Post by: mipoikel on December 21, 2004, 05:15:56 AM
Just tested this at work.

(http://www.savanne.org/ah/HTCping.png)
Title: another plot
Post by: DieAz on January 05, 2005, 04:57:53 PM
(http://members.aol.com/dieazairwarrior/films/plot)