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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: schizer on November 20, 2004, 07:57:17 AM
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Thug Life!
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Once again, Doesnt this happen in hockey also????
Thug Life!!!
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How 'bout them Sonics! :D
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Originally posted by schizer
Thug Life!
I would agree with you..however on this one.....that fan got what he deserved
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New reality tv show millionares behaving badly.
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Originally posted by jamusta
Once again, Doesnt this happen in hockey also????
Thug Life!!!
You mean do a bunch of amature gangstas push, shove, and swing at eachother and fans like girls?
No.
Hockey players beat the **** out of people without even bothering to run their mouth.
Basketball players are *******.
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If this type of behavior continues it could spell the end of live sports. Think of it. Unless this trend of lack of anything resembling sportsmanship is stopped live sports is likely to suffer. What responsible parent will bring their kids to an event where they are likely to be injured or killed. British soccer hasd shown the extreme of this type of behavior and several have died as a result of it. It's time to freaking GROW UP on both the part of the players and "fans".
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Personal attack
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Did you see the idiot fan throw the beer on Artest? The lack of respect and sheer absurdity was disgusting. I think I can say it was the most outrageous and appalling behavior I’ve seen in sports in a long time. This cretin should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law if nothing else to serve notice on any fan who would consider such atrocious conduct in the future. I still cant’ get over it….
wasting perfectly good beer like that.
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Originally posted by Airhead
Racist.
Name caller.
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Anybody have the video?
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go to http://www.espn.com. there's a link on the main story.
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that was F ing GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..
True Thug Life...
Cant take the ghetto out of the ghetto
I loved how Oneil..came sliding across the basketball floor to deliver the Haymaker to fat craker Piston fna who came down to the floor with his homeboy..
AHAHAHAHAH...he got punched in the face twice..!!!!!!!!!!!!11...LOLOLOLOLOO
This video is one of the funniest fights I have ever seen..GREAT stuff
lolololoolololollolol
Btw..way to go Artese...Love how he leaps 6 rows to the wrong guy to knock his head off....wasnt even the rigth guy
Golly-gee..I wish i was there...I would love to get paid..
Gangsta...Gangsta...Thats what they yelln...Gangsta Gangsta
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Fans should be prosecuted with assault for throwing chit. Players need to be suspended for a long time. Suspend Piston players extra due to behavior of their fans (yeah, yeah, not fair, but might send a message to other retarded fans about consequences of their behavior).
Still pretty enjoyable though. I loved watching O'Neal come sliding in and deck short fat white guy.
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Originally posted by Raubvogel
Still pretty enjoyable though. I loved watching O'Neal come sliding in and deck short fat white guy.
RACIST!!!
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Originally posted by CAVY
I would agree with you..however on this one.....that fan got what he deserved
Just saw breif clips on the news. Saw a couple fans get hit.
Which fan you talking about and what did he do to deserve it?
Short of the fan running out on the court and start wailing away on one of the players I cant think of very many excuses for a player ever being justified in hitting a fan ever.
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Originally posted by GreenCloud
that was F ing GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..
True Thug Life...
Cant take the ghetto out of the ghetto
I loved how Oneil..came sliding across the basketball floor to deliver the Haymaker to fat craker Piston fna who came down to the floor with his homeboy..
AHAHAHAHAH...he got punched in the face twice..!
Yea but the "cracker" was never brought down by a punch, he was basically bowled over.
Got hit in the face by a roundhouse right from someone nearly twice his size and the dude barely flinched.
the player had size but when it comes to a fight brings nothing to the table
thats the part I find funny
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Originally posted by Raubvogel
Still pretty enjoyable though. I loved watching O'Neal come sliding in and deck short fat white guy.
Yea but if you watch he didnt get knocked down by a punch.
We was slid into.
Hardly what I'd call getting decked
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Looks like the balance of power will shift AGAIN to west if Wallace, Artest, O'Neal (NOT SHAQ!), and some other foos are suspended indefinatley.
To be honest, I had fun! Those fans got what they deserve:rofl
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Yeah the main aggressor asked for time off to promote his rap album...
But if you try to link this behavior to hip hop bling bling culture YOU'RE A RACIST! :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Airhead
Racist.
I hope you're kidding.
Infering racism from a comment that is, in fact, a phrase first popularized by people, never mind their color, who owed much of their commercial success to the exact sort of conduct exhibited in yesterday's game, is absurd.
They behaved like morons. This is not indicative of their race, but rather, their status as spoiled overgrown children who, from their teenage years, are awarded hero status for their ability to play a game.
Basketball, moreso than any other popular professional sport(including hockey), is a product of modern pop culture, I believe. That's why you get more basketball players moonlighting as musicians than you do football or baseball players. It has nothing to do with their color, rather, their fan base. Calling him racist for using that term is akin to calling a person racist for refering to Britney Spears as trailor trash because of the clothing she wears.
Of course, there will always be people who take any reference, however obscure, subtle or non-specific, as a direct slight against an entire race. It's like you feel the need to get offended on their behalf, even though they never asked for, nor are in need of your support.
The fact that you immediately see the need to step in and toss around accusations on behalf of a highly varied, proud group of people--a people who are anything BUT represented by this select group of riff-raff--says more about your own stereotypes and yes, veiled preconceptions of Afro-Americans than it does about the guy who uses a Tupac quote to laugh at a bunch of guys that totally fit the mold.
Get over yourself.
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Airhead got... [/i][/b]
(http://home.san.rr.com/redv/racist-legos-owned.jpg)
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Just saw breif clips on the news. Saw a couple fans get hit.
Which fan you talking about and what did he do to deserve it?
Short of the fan running out on the court and start wailing away on one of the players I cant think of very many excuses for a player ever being justified in hitting a fan ever.
agreed..however their was one who initially threw the beer at Artess as he was on the table..but all in all, I'm in full agreement with you as the day progressed. I was able to examine it alot closer
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Airhead got... [/i]
(http://home.san.rr.com/redv/racist-legos-owned.jpg) [/B]
OMFG Damn near blew my drink through my nose
Too funny
Gotta save that before it goes away.
and its sure to go away
BTW. Im IN
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Airhead got... [/i]
(http://home.san.rr.com/redv/racist-legos-owned.jpg) [/B]
OMFG LOL
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Holy Christwagons, check this out. Too weird...
I went to ESPN to look for the video (still haven't found the damn thing) and ended up at their bulletin board. A post caught my eye; "I was at the game: my story".
Here's what the dude posted:
"It was my child's first Piston game. He's 11 years old and has down syndrome. He was having a great time at the game. I bought him popcorn and a lot of Pepsi. Then at the end when we were ready to leave, Ron Artest jumps in the audience and starts punching people. There was another small 11 year old boy sitting in front of me and Artest's blood splattered all over him. My own son, not knowing any better, licked the blood from the other child.
This morning I went to the doctor and my son was tested HIV positive. Artest ruined my life. That dumb ******."
Can this be for real? Doesn't really matter, that was a damn great post.
Anyways, contrary to what some people see as this type of thing ruining sports, I disagree. Hell, if I was guaranteed a brawl every time I tuned in, I would actually start watching that stupid sport.
When I was living in NYC, I used to go down to the public basketball courts on weekends and evenings and play in pick-up games. I was like Woody Harrelson in that movie - but with a tenth of the talent. Those guys were hella good. It was fun, if you didn't mind the smack talk and waiting out the huge arguments that erupted between the two teams after every single gawdamned fricken basket.
Playing is definitely better than watching it, tho. But I would make an exception if I was guaranteed a brawl.
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Originally posted by Nash
Holy Christwagons, check this out. Too weird...
There was another small 11 year old boy sitting in front of me and Artest's blood splattered all over him. My own son, not knowing any better, licked the blood from the other child.
This morning I went to the doctor and my son was tested HIV positive. Artest ruined my life. That dumb ******."
Can this be for real? Doesn't really matter, that was a damn great post.
Anyways, contrary to what some people see as this type of thing ruining sports, I disagree. Hell, if I was guaranteed a brawl every time I tuned in, I would actually start watching that stupid sport.
Playing is definitely better than watching it, tho. But I would make an exception if I was guaranteed a brawl.
Didnt this fight just happen? Doesnt it take longer then a day or two to be able to be diagnosed?
Not ridiculing just asking.
I agree if I was guarenteed a full blown team brawl I'd start watching that stupid sport too.
So long as they kept the fight among the teams and not involve the fans.
Considering these guys are making millions and millions of dollars to play a game I think they can afford to show some restraint if somone hits them witha papercup full of beer.
Had the fan jumped out on the court and started hitting the player or the fans were throwing bottles or rocks that would be another story.
But for that kinda money they should be able to show restraint. and if they dont like being taunted.
they should play better
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Didnt this fight just happen? Doesnt it take longer then a day or two to be able to be diagnosed?
Not ridiculing just asking.
I agree if I was guarenteed a full blown team brawl I'd start watching that stupid sport too.
So long as they kept the fight among the teams and not involve the fans.
Considering these guys are making millions and millions of dollars to play a game I think they can afford to show some restraint if somone hits them witha papercup full of beer.
Had the fan jumped out on the court and started hitting the player or the fans were throwing bottles or rocks that would be another story.
But for that kinda money they should be able to show restraint. and if they dont like being taunted.
they should play better
I'm with you DREDIOCK
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Look-out, DREDIOCK.
If CAVY ever said those same words to me, I'd pack it all in, head to Tibet and search for answers. Prolly take the rest of my life.
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Originally posted by Nash
Look-out, DREDIOCK.
If CAVY ever said those same words to me, I'd pack it all in, head to Tibet and search for answers. Prolly take the rest of my life.
eh it happens.
I even agree with you from time to time.
Course when that happens I have to reread the posts 4-5 times just to make sure I didnt miss something along the way
LOL
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The HIV thing is bull****. Unless they've come up with a new test, it doesn't work overnight. The tests detect HIV antibodies, not the virus itself, meaning that your body has to have time to produce the antibodies in sufficient quantity to be detected.
Don't think that happens overnight.
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Originally posted by Airhead
Racist.
Wow, easy there big fella. I thought name calling was a bannable offense?
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I'll tell you who got PWN3D. The idiot millionaire wannabe thugs that hit the fans. Those guys are going to be playing (if the NBA ever allows them back on a court) for free the majority of their careers. The civil suits are gonna clean up. "Cracker" is gonna be getting a new car, house, wardrobe, vacation house and maybe season tix. BLING BLING!!!! All courtesy of the "Boys from the hood". NBA...it's FANtastic!:lol
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Yeah, this never happened in hockey
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u can get HIV by licking blood???:confused:
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Originally posted by 1K3
u can get HIV by licking blood???:confused:
YES.
If you have a cut in your mouth and you some how find away to actually PACK or foce the blood into the cut. Not entirely probably but not imposible to say the least.
even digested blood unless in large quantites has a small chance of infecting somone because of the stomach acid.
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Finally basketball turns into an exciting sport!!
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Instead of entering them in Olympic Basketball, we should have entered them in Beating-Up-People-You-Outweigh-By-100lbs.
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Originally posted by schizer
Wow, easy there big fella. I thought name calling was a bannable offense?
Call Skuzzy and complain then, schizer. You know "Thug Life" is a Rap (aka African American) term and you used it in the context of "Look at these typical n*****s, beating up fans."
You used it to be descriptive of their race- and if you can't get beyond the racial aspect of this sort of thing then that makes you a racist.
(shrug) No big deal, probably about 80% of white America is racist, but 90% of black Americans are racist too so I guess it's OK to use terms like "thug life" or "bling bling gangsta rapper wannabees" when making reference to black atheletes. Then if you're called on it you can claim "thug life" is simply a hep sort of youthspeak, and has nothing to do with race... of course I'd respect you more if you told the truth, but hey, whatever.
No doubt 80% of the posters here would agree that you aren't racist tho, so I guess you're in good company.
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Originally posted by Airhead
Call Skuzzy and complain then, schizer. You know "Thug Life" is a Rap (aka African American) term and you used it in the context of "Look at these typical n*****s, beating up fans."
You used it to be descriptive of their race- and if you can't get beyond the racial aspect of this sort of thing then that makes you a racist.
(shrug) No big deal, probably about 80% of white America is racist, but 90% of black Americans are racist too so I guess it's OK to use terms like "thug life" or "bling bling gangsta rapper wannabees" when making reference to black atheletes. Then if you're called on it you can claim "thug life" is simply a hep sort of youthspeak, and has nothing to do with race... of course I'd respect you more if you told the truth, but hey, whatever.
No doubt 80% of the posters here would agree that you aren't racist tho, so I guess you're in good company.
IF YOU TOOK WHITE AND BLACK OUT OF THE PICTURE THE COMMENT WOULD BE TRUE!
Sure it's racist but the only one saying or thinking:
"Look at these typical n*****s, beating up fans."
Is you! WOW black athletes acting like black rapper/hiphop nothing negativly racist about that statement at all mostly because it's true.
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Man.... What ever happened to just gettin' naked and running across Yankee stadium piss drunk?
These basketball fans have no class.
:D
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Originally posted by Airhead
Call Skuzzy and complain then, schizer. You know "Thug Life" is a Rap (aka African American) term and you used it in the context of "Look at these typical n*****s, beating up fans."
You used it to be descriptive of their race- and if you can't get beyond the racial aspect of this sort of thing then that makes you a racist.
The context was inferred by you and only you... The fact that you wish that he said these things, thus providing a target for your overburdened sense of white man's guilt to fire upon, only proves the fact that the biggest bigot here, however subconscious, is you.
It's guys like you, with their high-horsed sense of self-satisyfing self-rightousness, that are the absolute worst elements in modern race relations. You're the white guy that no self-respecting afro-american will take seriously, the white guy that no other white guy will support out of fear of being dubbed sarcastic, disingenuous.
Thug Life? Bling Bling? You think that that the black community cares what your take on this matter is? You're just another human megaphone passing useless wind over your voicebox for the sake of having your voice heard. You're just another limp, sanctimonious manifestation of white man's burden, singing an anthem that nobody wants to hear.
The black community can take care of itself without false heroes like you losing sleep over them. Like I said before, they're a proud, dignified people that have seen and lived through worse than this.
You should look deep within yourself, Airthoughts, and figure out what it is that makes you feel so guilty on behalf of every white guy that says anything even remotely relatable to african-american culture. Whatever issues are causing you to self-appoint yourself the crusader for black rights on this BBS are probably issues that are best left to be dealt with on a personal level.
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Airhead (or whoever is the guy using the n-word), does this mean we're all Thugophobes?
PS: This new guy r0xx0rZ!!!111 So gracious yet so insulting. I will be taking notes.
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SNL dogged them pretty good in a skit tonite: "the great american train wreck awards" Hosted by Anna Nichole Smith and Dianna Ross
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4 entries found for thug.
thug Audio pronunciation of "thug" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (thg)
n.
1. A cutthroat or ruffian; a hoodlum.
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Originally posted by Airhead
Call Skuzzy and complain then, schizer. You know "Thug Life" is a Rap (aka African American) term and you used it in the context of "Look at these typical n*****s, beating up fans."
You used it to be descriptive of their race- and if you can't get beyond the racial aspect of this sort of thing then that makes you a racist.
(shrug) No big deal, probably about 80% of white America is racist, but 90% of black Americans are racist too so I guess it's OK to use terms like "thug life" or "bling bling gangsta rapper wannabees" when making reference to black atheletes. Then if you're called on it you can claim "thug life" is simply a hep sort of youthspeak, and has nothing to do with race... of course I'd respect you more if you told the truth, but hey, whatever.
No doubt 80% of the posters here would agree that you aren't racist tho, so I guess you're in good company.
You truely are a moron....In case you want some history on the term, it was coined by the late 2pac and in an interview he described thug life as
"The Hate You Gave Little Infants f**ks Everybody, meaning, what you feed us as seeds, grows, and blows up in your face, thats Thug Life."
that was the exact quote from Pac himself.
It is the African American community themselves who have popularized the term and twisted 2Pacs definition of the word he coined. The term is not descriptive of a race it is descriptive of a lifestyle. Thug Life has evolved into money, hoes, the bling bling cars, guns, you know general "gangsta" crap. Call me racist if you want, hell throw all the labels around you want, you seem to be a master at that, almost everyone of your threads has to have some sort of insult. Vilifying is very easy from behind a keyboard now isnt it?
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Originally posted by schizer
You truely are a moron....In case you want some history on the term, it was coined by the late 2pac and in an interview he described thug life as
"The Hate You Gave Little Infants f**ks Everybody, meaning, what you feed us as seeds, grows, and blows up in your face, thats Thug Life."
that was the exact quote from Pac himself.
It is the African American community themselves who have popularized the term and twisted 2Pacs definition of the word he coined. The term is not descriptive of a race it is descriptive of a lifestyle. Thug Life has evolved into money, hoes, the bling bling cars, guns, you know general "gangsta" crap. Call me racist if you want, hell throw all the labels around you want, you seem to be a master at that, almost everyone of your threads has to have some sort of insult. Vilifying is very easy from behind a keyboard now isnt it?
That same THUG LIFE unfortunately lead to his death
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Originally posted by schizer
You truely are a moron....In case you want some history on the term, it was coined by the late 2pac and in an interview he described thug life as
"The Hate You Gave Little Infants f**ks Everybody, meaning, what you feed us as seeds, grows, and blows up in your face, thats Thug Life."
that was the exact quote from Pac himself.
It is the African American community themselves who have popularized the term and twisted 2Pacs definition of the word he coined. The term is not descriptive of a race it is descriptive of a lifestyle. Thug Life has evolved into money, hoes, the bling bling cars, guns, you know general "gangsta" crap. Call me racist if you want, hell throw all the labels around you want, you seem to be a master at that, almost everyone of your threads has to have some sort of insult. Vilifying is very easy from behind a keyboard now isnt it?
Thanks for proving my point- Thug Life is an African American term used to describe African American "gangsters." I already knew that, but thanks anyway- now we know you were aware of it also. You used the term to describe basketball players who got caught up in a brawl, as the first thing you took note of was the color of the players' skin.
Look, I'm not trying to be insulting, I'd really be more than happy to discuss this in a civil manner- so I'll ignore your "moron" comment and rephrase my "racist" remark to "I feel it's racist to use code words like Thug Life when refering to African American basketball players who get into brawls with fans. It is stated with the intention to note the ethneticity of the players."
And that's how I genuinely feel- all insults, all kidding, all BS aside.
"The context was inferred by you and only you..." -Neubob
You believe that, Neubob? You believe nobody read "thug life" and connected it to the ethneticity of the players? I think you're wrong- I think most here understood exactly what the phrase refered to...it's just that nobody here has the cohones to say it.
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Originally posted by Airhead
Thanks for proving my point- Thug Life is an African American term used to describe African American "gangsters." I already knew that, but thanks anyway- now we know you were aware of it also. You used the term to describe basketball players who got caught up in a brawl, as the first thing you took note of was the color of the players' skin.
But how is it racist if you are refferring to African....Blacks that are acting like blacks. Now if I just saw some guys hanging out on a court or something not doing anything wrong but just hanging out with their buddies and I made the comment "thug life" THAT would be a racist comment.
If you call a white guy from georgia who has a pickup truck with a gun rack and a mural with the confederate flag on the hood a redneck there would be nothing racist about it because he is in fact a redneck. Now if you talk to him and he's missing teeth and the man cannot even literate complete sentences you could go so far as to say he is a "dumb redneck" because it is true.
Now if you just saw a white guy in a regular truck comin home from work and listening to some country music and called him a dumb redneck THAT would be a racist comment.
I'm not trying to be insulting but for you to lable somone a racist because they speak the truth tells me you suffer from "guilty white guy syndrome" (at least I think you are white....can't remember though) To me you are standing up for a bunch of black guys when there isn't a need for it.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
I'm not trying to be insulting but for you to lable somone a racist because they speak the truth tells me you suffer from "guilty white guy syndrome" (at least I think you are white....can't remember though) To me you are standing up for a bunch of black guys when there isn't a need for it.
What is "the truth," Gunslinger? Is it that codewords like "thug life" and "bling bling gangsta rapper wannabees" are Board politespeak for the N-word- or that no inference of race was intended by those who use the term when refering to African American atheletes who act badly?
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Airhead... did you even read what he wrote?
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Well, it is true when you are black everything you do is magnified. When Sprewell choked his coach, there was outrage, when Kevin Greene choked his coach, there was barely a whisper.
Does anyone remember the fiasco in New York when the Bruins went into the stands and attacked the crowd? The image of Mike Milbury taking off one fans shoe and beating him with it is classic. Shoot, one game against minnesota, the puck hadn't even been dropped to start the game and all hell broke loose. There was 281 minutes in penalties and they barely had enough players to play the game. We were all talking about it in school as it was the greatest game we ever saw.
But a brawl breaks out at a basketball game and it's typical of their race, too funny.
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Originally posted by Sixpence
But a brawl breaks out at a basketball game and it's typical of their race, too funny. [/B]
Another one!
BOTH of you listen good: You are the ONLY two mentioning race in this thread!
Unreal.
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Airhead... did you even read what he wrote?
Yeah Mazz... he said "thug life." I commented that's a code word for African Americans. Really, there's not much more to it than that.
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Another one!
BOTH of you listen good: You are the ONLY two mentioning race in this thread!
Unreal.
"You mean do a bunch of amature gangstas push, shove, and swing at eachother and fans like girls?
No.
Hockey players beat the **** out of people without even bothering to run their mouth.
Basketball players are *******.
I listen very well
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You two are making assumptions.
As of this post, the only two people discussing race are your duo.
"Thug" does not mean "black."
"Gangsta" does not mean "black."
Its a "lifestyle choice." ;)
Bertuzzi was a "thug" too.
If we wanted to be bigots, we'd simply throw around the terms youre using.
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Originally posted by Airhead
Yeah Mazz... he said "thug life." I commented that's a code word for African Americans. Really, there's not much more to it than that.
Thug Life is not code word for "nig..er", like I said earlier it has nothing to do with race. Is calling someone a hee-haw racist? Hee-haw was/is slang for cowboys/country western folk.....ever seen the show called "Hee-Haw" that was a country western music showcase. Is calling someone a "ricer" racist? Well it might be I guess if 100% of the people that drive supped up subcompacts are Asian. Is calling someone "simmer" or a person that likes to play online simualtions racist? I could go on all day with words that overtime have been used to describe a culture or a population and in no way are "racist". Thats the problem with politically correct individuals such as yourself, you are so quick to label and not even give an ounce of thought to the true meaning.
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Here, let me simplify it even more.
RACISM is defined as
rac·ism
1. The belief that RACE accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on
RACE .
race
1. A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics.
2. A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the German race.
So where within those definitions of the word you so clearly like to throw around does a term that is used to describe a LIFESTYLE CHOICE such as "thug life" fall? You are the racist, by so quiclkly attributing the phrase "Thug Life" to blacks.
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Originally posted by Airhead
Yeah Mazz... he said "thug life." I commented that's a code word for African Americans. Really, there's not much more to it than that.
The truth is if it were a bunch of white guys acting like "bling bling gangsta wannabe thug life" I wouldn't see it any different. So YES they were acting like what was commented on and I don't see anything bad about that. You are reading into things and making up stuff "in between the lines" that doesn't exist.
Airhead it's like you are saying we can't talk at all about anthing dealing with black people or we are racist. The only one that is relating this to the black race as a whole is you! It's not an off the wall racist comment to say that these guys are acting like "gangsta rappers" because they ARE! No one is substituting anything in here for racial slurs we are calling it like we see it. It's called "common sense guilt free observation"
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Just face it (in "technicolor" perspective), most "hidden" worfds, sentences, and connotatuiions have raccist substance in uit.
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Originally posted by tikky
Just face it (in "technicolor" perspective), most "hidden" worfds, sentences, and connotatuiions have raccist substance in uit.
You're not gonna criticise GW Bush for screwing up the english language are you?
Racism is in the mind of the racist, not in his words.
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I've never really understood why people get so worked up over words or terms anyway. Then again, I suppose I'm not really in a position to understand.
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Most of you have no idea what the hell you are talking about...
So I will let you speak on how black people act and how we live our lives and what we are all about. Since the majority of you seem to believe that all of us act the same way as SOME of these athletes and rappers then you are obviously an expert on the black culture.
Stupid asses.
This is the dumbest **** I have EVER read on this board and a true view of how most of you seem to think.
But how is it racist if you are refferring to African....Blacks that are acting like blacks.
Please gunslinger explain more.
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Jamusta, what did you see in any of my posts that offended you? Namely this one, which, for the record, was posted prior to getting drunk.
Originally posted by Neubob
Basketball, moreso than any other popular professional sport(including hockey), is a product of modern pop culture, I believe. That's why you get more basketball players moonlighting as musicians than you do football or baseball players. It has nothing to do with their color, rather, their fan base. Calling him racist for using that term is akin to calling a person racist for refering to Britney Spears as trailor trash because of the clothing she wears.
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The fact that you immediately see the need to step in and toss around accusations on behalf of a highly varied, proud group of people--a people who are anything BUT represented by this select group of riff-raff--says more about your own stereotypes and yes, veiled preconceptions of Afro-Americans than it does about the guy who uses a Tupac quote to laugh at a bunch of guys that totally fit the mold.
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Originally posted by jamusta
But how is it racist if you are refferring to African....Blacks that are acting like blacks.
Please gunslinger explain more.
Fair enough.
Simple answer....these black basket ball players are emulating Black Rap Culture.
Now for the record. I do not think all or even most black people act like this....nore do I think that all of basket ball is like this.
Fact: Hip/hop Rap culture emulates violence and a lifstyle of money and doing what you want when you want because you are the baddest on the block
Fact: It is the opinion of some on this board that these basketball players are acting this out in real life (the part about the violence)
Now you throw the word black in there or because most involved on the team happend to be black and all the sudden you're a racist?
What's amazing is that this "way of life" is not good for ANY race. Anyone who speaks out against it is instantly shunned. If you are a black guy (see: Bill Cosby) you are betraying your own. IF you are a white guy your now a racist.
again before I'm branded (actually I could care less) I don't think it is like this as a whole. This goes right along with "PC" and "guilty white man syndrom".
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Just because they're the only two mentioning it doesnt mean they're wrong.
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Originally posted by Airhead
Yeah Mazz... he said "thug life." I commented that's a code word for African Americans. Really, there's not much more to it than that.
Isn't that in of itself racist.....can't white people be "thugs" or live "thug life" as well? Last time I checked violence doesn't have a color.
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LMFAO....nice slave owner Lego kit...wow.....lOLOLOLOLO
btw ..Thug Life..is anyone who lives the gangnsta rap lifestyle..OH!!!
BTW ..you dotn have to listen to rap to be thug life...its just s term to describe people who DONT GIVE A F about you...all they care about is themselves..there money..ho's (not jousts).hehe and of course the diamonds and gold..bling bling you whorz; )
btw ..I do love how fat crackers coem down to the floor...and get punched in face by Oneail and Artets...LMFAO..great clips...
and...I wish i was them...they gonna be REEAAACH BEACHHHH..(Chappele show)
I can already see the testimony during the trial.....of the 2 fat crackers in Pistons shirts who cam edown to floor..
" We were just coeming down to the floor to get autographs!"..."And Artest punched my face!..sniff sniffle"
Can someone post a snapshot of artest rigth before he lays a double on crakers face?...LOLOLO...fat boy coems down..and shakes his left hand liek he about to unload on Artets...but then he freezes....and Artest lets loose...LOLOLOLOO..That has go to be the best part,,,,,,,,
PS...poor cracker who Artest smaqs first..WHO didnt throw the cup at him..HES GONA BE RICH!!...His face expression needs to be posted too...HEs laffing at Artets..then sees him coming for hoim..an dstarts squeealln..LOLOLOOL
Love
BiGB
xoxo
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Some pretty hefty penalties handed down by the NBA.
Artest is out for the season, O'neil gets 20 games, Wallace gets 5, ...
Good for Stern.
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Some pretty hefty penalties handed down by the NBA.
Artest is out for the season, O'neil gets 20 games, Wallace gets 5, ...
Good for Stern.
Hahah funny thing about Artest is a few weeks ago he said he wanted "time off" to persue his rap career. I guess the idiot now gets the whole season.
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Better info:
Artest was suspended for the rest of the season,
Indiana's Stephen Jackson was suspended for 30 games and Jermaine O'Neal for 25. Detroit's Ben Wallace — whose shove of Artest after a foul led to the 5-minute fracas — drew a six-game ban, while Pacers guard Anthony Johnson got five games.
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Neubob i didnt mention anyone elses name but gunslinger..
Fair enough gunslinger but next time try saying...
these black basket ball players are emulating Black Rap Culture.
Instead of blacks acting like blacks. But if you want to really look at whats going on most of the fans involved in the fighting and throwing stuff are white. Most didnt have anything to do with the begining. Artest ran right past the guy with the white hat and blue shirt so why is he grabbing him from behind? To break up the fight? Then why did he start punching him in the back of the head for no reason? Seems to me black bling bling gangsta wannabe rappers bball players are not the only violent people.
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Explain "guilty white guy syndrome" to me.
What exactly is that? I'm serious.
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Originally posted by TweetyBird
Explain "guilty white guy syndrome" to me.
What exactly is that? I'm serious.
White guilt is simply this:
It is white peple who genuinly are not racist people but they feel guilty for past treatment of minoritys in this country and feel a need to make up for that even when it is un asked for and sometimes unwanted.
It's white people vilifying other white peoples actions even when it defies common sense to do so.
I think this is a conservative writer but I'm not sure, either way he describes some good examples.
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/walterwilliams/ww20030604.shtml
Guilt is one of the worse human motivations. It promotes self-serving actions, while ignoring or discounting the effects of those actions on the object of the guilt. I recall my first year as an assistant professor of economics at Temple University in 1973. Black students had demanded that a course in "black economics" be taught. What's worse is that some of my colleagues were giving the demand serious thought.
Not being able to convince me that there was such a thing as black economics, I asked several of my colleagues what would be their response had some Polish or Italian students demanded a course in Polish or Italian economics? I answered the question for them by telling them they'd probably kick the rascals out of their offices.
That was just the tip of the guilt iceberg. One Temple University colleague took me to lunch and confided to me that he was having numerous academic problems with his poorly prepared black students.
I asked him what his response to their poor preparation was. He replied that he tried to take into consideration racial discrimination and the poor education they received. I asked him how he assigned grades, to which he responded: If they come every day and look as if they're taking notes, I give them a "C".
After I recovered, I told him that's very much like having a dog in an English class and one day the dog sits on his hind legs and says, "You not po da do dat." You'd give the dog an "A". Why? You don't expect the dog to speak at all, and no matter what he says you'd deem it laudable.
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NEWSFLASH!
Artest is out of the season:)
The one that started it (Wallace) only got 6:mad:
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ya wallace shoudl of got more...even if his brother died of a brain tumor last week..no excuse for striking a player liek that..
btw..so Artest the Rapper is out..it said ..NO -PAY suspension..seems liek alot of money...and with the lawsuits hes about to get pummled by...wow..sounds expensive...
Tuff to be motivated to play basketball..when you owe all of it to piston fans...Atleast 1 fan disreves the cash..(the first guy he crumbled)...that expression on the first crackers face is hilarious
I dont get it..Artes gets suspended for "asking for a month off"?..what you cant ask not to work? with out getting penalized?..seems more to the story
He will sell more of his rapcrap becuase of this tho..lolol
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thats no fair imo.
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>>that expression on the first crackers face is hilarious
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You know, you are disgusting. There was absolutely no need to throw that in there. You are one piece of work you moron.
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On MSNBC.com last week a comentator wrote that he thought that football players should stop shaking hands after the game cause it looks like they dont care what the outcome is.
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Originally posted by 1K3
NEWSFLASH!
Artest is out of the season:)
The one that started it (Wallace) only got 6:mad:
Negative. Wallace pushed a player on a basketball court after being flagerantly fouled.
That player, Artest, then went on a rampage into the stands. Im happy with the result.
What Wallace did was wrong and unsportsmanlike. What Artest did was worthy of criminal charges.
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So what did that fight wind up costing the players involved? Here's player, games suspended and salary lost:
Ron Artest 73 $4,994,737
Jermaine O'Neal 25 games $4,106,250
Stephen Jackson 30 games $1,633,333.30
Anthony Johnson 5 games $136,111.11
Reggie Miller 1 game $62,500
Ben Wallace 6 games $607,999.98
Chauncey Billups 1 game $60,613.33
Derrick Coleman 1 game $50,000
Elden Campbell 1 game $48,888.89
:aok
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Negative. Wallace pushed a player on a basketball court after being flagerantly fouled.
That player, Artest, then went on a rampage into the stands. Im happy with the result.
What Wallace did was wrong and unsportsmanlike. What Artest did was worthy of criminal charges.
Full Agreement!!!:aok
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Originally posted by rpm
So what did that fight wind up costing the players involved? Here's player, games suspended and salary lost:
:aok
Derick Coleman should have been put in jail when he was playing for St. John's...he'll never learn his lesson...but the teams keep paying him.....I predict he winds up doing 8-12 somewhere after his less than mediocar basketball carreer is over...not soon enough I may add:p
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Jonathan!! Jonathan!! Jonathan!!
(http://www.scifimoviepage.com/images/rollerball.jpg)
you can take the boy out of the hood but you cant take the hood out of the boy
and stop serving alcohol - that'd fix many problems as far as spectators go - may even keep the drunks at home
in the meantime, hefty paydays for the honkies that got clocked at that game - LOL
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Airhead... did you even read what he wrote?
I think he read it well.
I think he is right on the money with his comments.
Watching people trying to say that Thugs can be white guys etc. is really funny. Wriggle and spin, wriggle and spin.
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Originally posted by Curval
I think he read it well.
I think he is right on the money with his comments.
Watching people trying to say that Thugs can be white guys etc. is really funny. Wriggle and spin, wriggle and spin.
That's a racist comment!
If white people can't be thugs than you are sayin ONLY black people can.
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I know Im offended.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
That's a racist comment!
If white people can't be thugs than you are sayin ONLY black people can.
Exactly
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again..tweeky
That face on the Cracker Pistons Fan right before he got clubbed..was HILARIOUS....I would laff to see it posted..
So..you are a skinny craker kid..cheeering on the Fights..and especially the throwing of a drink on a NBA player....
NBA player...comes jumping up 6 rows to clobber the wrong guy....but..he was all cheering laffing...with "His own" drink "STILL" in his hand....
lolol..hes gonna get payed
and ..again I would like to request a snapshot of the other fat piston fans who coems down to the floor....lololoolololo....too o funny..he thought he was getting an autograph..lolololo..
I think Artes ..shoudl be kicked out of the NBA...
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(http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/users/41a29a8fza59653d7/bbae/__sr_/358c.jpg?ph.5poBBozZxx7Fx)
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While I was working this morning (Orland Park Hooters), all we had on was ESPN and they played the clip OVER and OVER. I saw it enough to draw it frame by frame.
Artest: He should have been arrested. Kicked out of the NBA. Sued for more money he owns (to be sure he can't come back in society).
Honestly, this doesn't help anything with the notion that a majority of NBA players being African American. Call it racist but this guy ATTACKED people and for no REAL REASON.
We pay these players MILLIONS to beat up their fans and make their team look like shiat?
They should pay them for the plays they make, not IF they can.
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Some interesting stuff from http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/cowbell/041122
"1. The smoking gun from Friday night, at least for me: Artest went after the wrong fans. If you watch the actual game tape, which they re-ran on ESPN2 in the wee hours that night, there's a replay after everything settles down that shows the blue cup plunking Artest. The camera angle comes from the basket where Artest fouled Wallace, so you can see him lying on the scorer's table, plus you can see the stands behind him (and everyone who eventually becomes involved in the fight).
Thanks to TiVo, if you frame-by-frame it, you'll see the beer comes flying from behind the head of someone wearing a white sweatshirt, and that person is standing two rows behind the guy that Artest initially jumps. Once the camera shifts and everyone starts pouring into the stands, the beer tosser's identity is revealed -- a little bald guy who turns back to high-five someone else in the stands even as Artest is knocking that first guy down.
That's what changed the stakes for the Commish. Artest wasn't just flying into the stands to confront a fan in the wrong -- he had no idea who threw the cup, meaning he was randomly attacking innocent fans. In other words, that could have been you or me standing there with that "Wait a second ... noooooooooooooooo!" look on our faces. You think David Stern wants a running situation where potential ticketholders are saying to each other, "Those tickets are great, I'd love to sit three rows from the court, I don't mind spending the money ... but we're sure none of the players are gonna beat us up tonight, right?" Not happening. They want to make sure this never happens again.
(What happens if Artest went after the correct fan? It's a little more understandable. Not much ... but a little.) "
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I don't get how everyone seems to think its all the fans fault..Yeah, they acted like morons and threw beer, but still, as professional athletes they have a responsibility to not go after fans. It's even more hilarious how Artest didn't even get the right fan, Steve Jackson ran and knocked that guy out for no reason, he was just sitting there. Then later down on the floor, when Artest was confronted by the 2 Pistons fans, he hits one a few times, then backs up and lets security take them down...how lame is that?
Players need to be suspended for a long time. Suspend Piston players extra due to behavior of their fans (yeah, yeah, not fair, but might send a message to other retarded fans about consequences of their behavior)
This is quite possibly the most retarded thing I've ever seen, Good Job. :aok
Oh Yeah and I'd like to thank the Pacers for giving the Pistons the confrence. :rofl
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
That's a racist comment!
If white people can't be thugs than you are sayin ONLY black people can.
lol
Spin and spin some more.
That is not what I said. I was merely remarking that the starter of this thread did not have white people in mind when he was referring to thugs and that guys like you are spinning wild racist yarns to cover up your racist attitudes.
Thanks for proving the point.
:aok
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Originally posted by CAVY
Derick Coleman should have been put in jail when he was playing for syracuse...he'll never learn his lesson...but the teams keep paying him.....I predict he winds up doing 8-12 somewhere after his less than mediocar basketball carreer is over...not soon enough I may add:p
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Originally posted by CAVY
Derick Coleman should have been put in jail when he was playing for St. John's...he'll never learn his lesson...but the teams keep paying him.....I predict he winds up doing 8-12 somewhere after his less than mediocar basketball carreer is over...not soon enough I may add:p
I mean syracuse..either way he's still a creep
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It cracks me up that the sporting world and the press are in a state of shock over this incident. In one of the less fortunate communities within our township this is an everyweek occurence at the local Ghetto Crime Spree Street Ball Classic. Nothing new here - happens all the time. Now Ron Artest has plenty of time to finish his CD music project. Another aspiring rapper - how cool is that :p Sickens me that he attended (NEVER GRADUATED - Another Shock) my alma mater St. John's University. The talent is there but the attitude needs major adjustment. If he continues on the path he's chosen he should end up like MC HAMMER in about 3 to 5 more years.
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Americans :rolleyes:
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I thought it was hilarious though, how Artest responded to criticism about the incident and then after explaining what he did he pulls out his CD and starts promoting it. Kinda makes me believe he saw the beer-throwing as a way to get a "break".
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http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=bayless/041124
"Yet in this case, Artest had no idea who threw the cup. He went flying by the guy who appeared to have thrown it and terrorized another poor soul who was merely jumping up and down and celebrating the direct hit. And here's a lost point: Though Artest pushed the innocent fan, HE DID NOT STRIKE HIM.
Wes Wilcox, an advance scout for the Cavaliers, was watching from his courtside seat. Wilcox told the Cleveland Plain Dealer: "Artest did a good job of keeping his composure."
By his rock-headed, short-fused standards, Artest certainly did. But most fans want to believe Artest has a screw loose, and they automatically assume the worst. If this incident had involved any Pacer other than Artest, the reaction wouldn't have been nearly as nuclear."
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assault is an unlawful threat or attempt to do bodily injury to another, or the act or an instance of unlawfully threatening or attempting to injure another.
You do not have to strike to be guilty of assault: the threat is enough.
Battery is the use of force on another resulting in harmful contact.
It can be strongly argued Artest committed assault and battery.
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NEWSFLASH! Artest is out of the season. The one that started it (Wallace) only got 6:mad:
Are you retarded? What Artest did was damn near as flagerent as what Wallace did...Artest got what he deserved...All you Pacers fans just upset cuz your screwed this season.
Me on the other hand, I'm a Pistons fan, so I'm kinda thrilled our #1 contender just got neutered. :aok
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WOW read entire post most didn't even get it. Wallace Attacked Artest, And he wanted no part of wallace. But god forbid a cup lands on him. He goes into stands and swings away. If this is the biggest chicken **** thing i've ever seen. instead of fighting guy he knew would kick his bellybutton he goes into stands after smallest guy he see's cheering. And attacks him, This man didn't even throw cup lol. Plain and simple Pacer players were totally at fault. If Wallace almost tearing your head off you do nothing then when a cup hits you you go and say selfdefense what bull****. Self defense is exactly that selfdefense, Not chargeing after guy for hitting with cup. about same as Shooting Kid in the back for stealing pc of gum in a store. No way no how selfdefense.
But I do believe J jackson shouldv'e been fined more than artest. For he went on a bigger rampage firing haymakers at everyone with no one attacking him at all.......................... ...