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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: mosgood on November 21, 2004, 10:13:35 AM
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Dear President Bush,
Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding
God's Law. I have learned a great deal from you and
understand why you would propose and support a
constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage. As you
said, "in the eyes of God marriage is based between a man
and a woman." I try to share that knowledge with as many
people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual
lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus
18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination... End of
debate.
I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some
other elements of God's Laws and how to follow them.
1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both
male and female, provided they are purchased from
neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this
applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify?
Why can't I own Canadians?
2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as
sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you
think would be a fair price for her?
3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while
she is in her period of menstrual uncleanness - Lev.15:
19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking,
but most women take offense.
4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it
creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem
is, my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to
them. Should I smite them?
5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath.
Exodus 35:2. clearly states he should be put to death. Am I
morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the
police to do it?
6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish
is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination
than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are
there 'degrees' of abomination?
7. Lev.21:20 states that I may ! not approach the altar of
God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I
wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is
there some wiggle-room here?
8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including
the hair around their temples, even though Lev. 19 expressly
forbids this: 27. How should they die?
9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead
pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I
wear gloves?
10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting
two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by
wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread
(cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and
blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all
the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone
them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a
private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with
their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14) I know you have studied these
things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in
such matters, so I am confident you can help.
Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal
and unchanging.
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Fantastic!
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Mosgood....
You've quoted old testament scripture.
Christianity is based on the belief that no one can follow all the laws of the old testament, and that Christ brought us a new set of rules.
In the new testament many of the problems you find in the old are resolved. For instance in the books of Acts, Peter has a vision where dietary rules are relaxed.
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Very good points, can't wait to see to see what the far right has to say.
68Parker
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actually, it was just an email sent to me and a bunch toers from a freind. He probably got it from sone one else
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Thats good...
The bible is confusing, yes, no, maybe, not quite sure...
Can't God make up his/her mind?
Cause, the world would be so much more easier............ Ooooooh I get it, God's ***king with us...
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Whoever wrote it got it from an episode of "West Wing".
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Wow....lets take a look at the Koran and make quotes from it without reading the whole passage. If I had time right now the pasages are only partial quotes on almost all of them.
Why do people have to be so intolerent of religion and of those that think being gay is wrong and unnatural.
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Mosgood....
You've quoted old testament scripture.
Christianity is based on the belief that no one can follow all the laws of the old testament, and that Christ brought us a new set of rules.
In the new testament many of the problems you find in the old are resolved. For instance in the books of Acts, Peter has a vision where dietary rules are relaxed.
Did this happen before or after the great flood? If God changed the rules after the flood then theres gonna be a whole lotta pissed of people in hell. Or did he use Jezuz to deliver the new terms in a middle management takes the crap kind of way?
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This was a lot funnier in 2000.
When it was addressed to Dr. Laura
:p
-Sik
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Originally posted by Vulcan
Did this happen before or after the great flood? If God changed the rules after the flood then theres gonna be a whole lotta pissed of people in hell. Or did he use Jezuz to deliver the new terms in a middle management takes the crap kind of way?
The new testament is the story of Christ and the disciples, and the message JC brought. Jesus walked on water, but I believe it wasn't to go over and talk to Noah.
Noah is in Genesis.
Don't know how those previous to Christ are reconciled.
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Originally posted by Vulcan
Did this happen before or after the great flood? If God changed the rules after the flood then theres gonna be a whole lotta pissed of people in hell. Or did he use Jezuz to deliver the new terms in a middle management takes the crap kind of way?
OK.....here is Christianity in a nutshell for those of you who don't get it.
God sent his only son to the world. He was the perfect man and lived with out sin. That is the gift he gives us....the only perfect person to give up his own life so everyone else can be forgiven of their sins. THAT is why the "rules changed" so to speak. I don't understand why some of you left wing fascists here don't appreciate what Christ had to offer, if you think about it he was the origninal hippie...peace...love...ect.
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Don't worry, the wierdo right will come in here and blame it all on communists or blacks. I wish rabbits were as predictable..
oh wait- they are
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Originally posted by TweetyBird
Don't worry, the wierdo right will come in here and blame it all on communists or blacks. I wish rabbits were as predictable..
oh wait- they are
Do you have an updated version?
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
the only perfect person to give up his own life...
Oh yeah... something about passover in Jerusalem...
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Oh yeah... something about passover in Jerusalem...
:confused:
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You didn't see the movie?
<<Checks calendar for the relationship between Passover and Easter.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
OK.....here is Christianity in a nutshell for those of you who don't get it.
God sent his only son to the world. He was the perfect man and lived with out sin. That is the gift he gives us....the only perfect person to give up his own life so everyone else can be forgiven of their sins. THAT is why the "rules changed" so to speak. I don't understand why some of you left wing fascists here don't appreciate what Christ had to offer, if you think about it he was the origninal hippie...peace...love...ect.
right right, I understand that. But what I don't understand is say the shellfish eating thing. So say back in the old days you ate shellfish one day but other than that you'd been a perfect person, you end up at the pearly gates, they look down the list and see "Eaten Shellfish" ticked and bwhammo next thing you know your downstairs with Satan. Meanwhile the guy next to your sold his daughter into slavery, but HE didn't eat shellfish and got into heaven.
Then a couple of thousand years later Jezuz comes down and whoa its ok to eat shellfish. Do you get a pardon and shifted upstairs, or was the contract with previous management and the new guys can't get you out because of the Hell for Eternity clause?
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Originally posted by Vulcan
right right, I understand that. But what I don't understand is say the shellfish eating thing. So say back in the old days you ate shellfish one day but other than that you'd been a perfect person, you end up at the pearly gates, they look down the list and see "Eaten Shellfish" ticked and bwhammo next thing you know your downstairs with Satan. Meanwhile the guy next to your sold his daughter into slavery, but HE didn't eat shellfish and got into heaven.
Then a couple of thousand years later Jezuz comes down and whoa its ok to eat shellfish. Do you get a pardon and shifted upstairs, or was the contract with previous management and the new guys can't get you out because of the Hell for Eternity clause?
Sorry Don't have a real answer for you. The thing is you cannot relate the old testiment with christians. Also look up some of those verses but read the entire chapter not just the verse. SOME of them tend to make sense.
Holden...yes easter happened after passover feast IIRC. I just didn't understand your comment? I'm feeling kinda dense right now.
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So are you telling me, theres some poor soul stuck in hell going "oh comon it was only two oysters and they've revoked that clause" stuck down there for all eternity because you guys aren't sure about the Shellfish clause?
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Originally posted by Vulcan
So are you telling me, theres some poor soul stuck in hell going "oh comon it was only two oysters and they've revoked that clause" stuck down there for all eternity because you guys aren't sure about the Shellfish clause?
nope cause if he's in hell he's in hell for a reason. It's God's will.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
nope cause if he's in hell he's in hell for a reason. It's God's will.
It's god's will?
He ate two oysters and he's in hell for all eternity because it's god's will?
Hey isn't god's will the same excuse the Muslims use with the suicide bombers?
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I've read the bible some - and most of the stuff turns out to be dogmatic doctrinal bull**** that at many points is contridicting itself. As if life wasn't confusing enough, then I go look at boobs, dirty up my plate some more and when i get it wiped clean, keep figuring out new and creative ways to dirty it up again!
Wolf
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Originally posted by Vulcan
It's god's will?
He ate two oysters and he's in hell for all eternity because it's god's will?
Hey isn't god's will the same excuse the Muslims use with the suicide bombers?
true but there's a big difference between blowing up a bus full of kids and eating shell fish. Honestly I don't know what the big deal is about shell fish, don't really care.
Maybe after Jesus was resurected the guy in hell for eating shell fish got a pardon under some type of dogmatic grandfather clause.
Also keep in mind not ALL muslims are blowing themselves up. Those are the extremests mostly......christians have more than there fair share of nutjobs as well SEE: Abortion clinic bombers.
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Oh sorry the "its god's will" just gave me a bit of deja vu from the muslim rationalisations of stuff.
Getting back to the Shellfish sinner...
So say he got a pardon right - thats cool. But I'm a bit concerned, because it seems to me god is capable of changing the clauses. For example, say something like smoking becomes a sin in some revision of the Bible 100 years from now, will the smokers be kicked out of heaven?
And did the guy that sold his daughter into slavery get his ticket to heaven revoked and get sent down to hell when they brought in the new testament?
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Mosgood....
You've quoted old testament scripture.
Christianity is based on the belief that no one can follow all the laws of the old testament, and that Christ brought us a new set of rules.
Matthew 5
17. Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
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Does Jesus ever say anything about the homos?
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I think some of you REAAAAALLY need to get out more.
Seriously.
I'm not kidding.
God gave us a sense of humor too. Try using it. Its fun. ;)
Oh, and in case any of you were actually SERIOUS, the Old Testament laws are JEWISH law. Has nothing to do with Christianity or Gentiles in general (beyond the obvious lineage of Christianity). From a Christian point of view, the shellfish guy is goin to hell anyway because he's JEWISH and doesn't believe Jesus was the Messiah. Besides, do you know how hard it is to find fresh shellfish?? Do you know the disEASES you can get from shellfish?? I mean, my GAWD, its AWFUL some of the things bad shellfish can do to you. And then theres all those poor people who have allergies and dont know it! They just swell right up like a balloon! And what it does to your complexion! And worst of all, even if you actually SURVIVE eating the shellfish, they you have to listen to your MOTHER with the constant "I told you so, I told you so, I told you so........." NAG, NAG, NAG, NAG, NAG!!!! Its enough to drive someone insane!
:D
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Btw, the priest already told me I'm going to hell as a blasphemer and general all around n'er-do-well for committing the ultimate sin of asking questions. That and I told him he should consider going to AA meetings. Minor things.
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Originally posted by Montezuma
Does Jesus ever say anything about the homos?
Nah, everything else is ok, but homos thing from old testament still applies, because we like it like that :D
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vulcan... maybe the bible was written by scientists. That would explain all the inconsistencies... you know.. milk good for you today not the next then good for you again...meat bad... meat good... vitamins good/bad comet/flood/ice whatever.... all people from africa no wait... from.. no wait..
lazs
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Its a load of old cobblers. Thats what this thread says to me!
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lol Good show Vulcan!
Amazing what simple logic can do and the questions that it will bring.. hehe
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the only dicsussion funnier than politics on this board is religion
LOL LOL LOL
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The book of Leviticus is, I believe, is in the Old Testament. As I recall, we should be living from the New Testament. The Old Testament left us when Jesus died on the cross for all of us. All those sacrifices (and other strange stuff) in the Old Testament are called the “Old Covenant. The Old Testament is more of a historical set of books. Get in the New Testament, (The new Covenant) and your story will change quite a bit.
Disclaimer.
Just a bit of info here. I can also get you the information from the Muslims, Buddhism and a few others out there. This is for information proposes only. What you do with the information I give you is called…Religion!
Your beliefs are not my fault.
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But Moses received the 10 commandments before Jesus died on the cross and are in the Old Testiment... right? ( not sure really)
And if that is the case.... are they null and void? :confused:
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So are you telling me, theres some poor soul stuck in hell going "oh comon it was only two oysters and they've revoked that clause" stuck down there for all eternity because you guys aren't sure about the Shellfish clause?
I think the guy who wrote the bible was a sucker for Shellfish! LoL!
He wanted all the Shellfish for himself! :)
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Originally posted by mosgood
But Moses received the 10 commandments before Jesus died on the cross and are in the Old Testiment... right? ( not sure really)
And if that is the case.... are they null and void? :confused:
Well, It depends on who you ask. That was asked also of Jesus, and I aint' him, so you're going to have to look up his answer your self!
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Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
Oh, and in case any of you were actually SERIOUS, the Old Testament laws are JEWISH law. Has nothing to do with Christianity or Gentiles in general (beyond the obvious lineage of Christianity). From a Christian point of view, the shellfish guy is goin to hell anyway because he's JEWISH and doesn't believe Jesus was the Messiah. Besides, do you know how hard it is to find fresh shellfish??
Jewish law? OK I see. But does that mean god was Jewish before Jezuz stepped in, or are we talking two different gods here?
So say the Shellfish guy is in hell, and he hears about this Jezuz dude right - now remember the shellfish guy died way before Jezuz arrived. So the Shellfish guy mossies up to Satan and says "I'm with Jezuz, hes the Messiah and he says oysters are ok". Does Satan let him out? Or does he check with God?
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"God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
Personally, i am not religious, and i think all religion is b.s.
But i have an open mind, i would love there to be a God, and a magical place called heaven where i could see my loved ones again. But i dont think there is.
oh.. and a bit of Monty Python ;) :D
All things dull and ugly, All creatures short and squat,
All things rude and nasty, The Lord God made the lot;
Each little snake that poisons, Each little wasp that stings,
He made their brutish venom, He made their horrid wings.
All things sick and cancerous, All evil great and small,
All things foul and dangerous, The Lord God made them all.
Each nasty little hornet, Each beastly little squid.
Who made the spikey urchin? Who made the sharks? He did.
All things scabbed and ulcerous, All pox both great and small.
Putrid, foul and gangrenous, The Lord God made them all.
-- Monty Python's Flying Circus
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Originally posted by Furball
"God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh."
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
Wow good one!