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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: beet1e on November 21, 2004, 12:34:35 PM
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Another milestone in Blair's Britain! OK, this didn't come from Blair, but no-one would have suggested it in Maggie's time, preferring to wait for a nanny government in full cry. Hunting's been banned, smoking is soon to be banned, so why not ban our lifelong tradition of fish and chips? Whatever next?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/11/21/nfish121.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/11/21/ixhome.html
An animal welfare group has demanded a ban on fish and chips because cod, haddock and plaice feel pain and distress when caught.
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals said that the amount of suffering felt by fish should put people off eating them.
Dawn Carr, the director of Peta in Europe, said: "We are not pulling any punches on this one. We don't think people should eat fish at all - and if that means they do not eat fish and chips, then so be it.
"People should go on a fishing boat and see the amount of suffering a fish goes through when it is caught."
The organisation, which is known for its anti-fur tirades, says that fish also should be kept off menus because they live in water so polluted that toxic chemicals are ingested by those who eat them.
The National Federation of Fish Friers, which represents 8,500 fish and chip shops described the suggestion as "potty".
Adrian Herdman, 57, the federation's president, who has run a shop in Swansea for 20 years, said: "Why would they want to get rid of a meal that is not only part of British history, but also well known for being good for you?"
Peta, whose supporters include Sir Paul McCartney and the Dalai Lama suggested that fish and chip shops should serve fish substitutes instead.
The call is part of its "fish empathy" project, which claims that fish are no more deserving of being eaten than a dog or cat.
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Welcome to the age of political correctness, the placement of guilt, and the minority thaught ruling the majority!;)
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2 words.
**** them.
Fish and Chips rules!
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What we need to start toind is finding a PEta building and holding picnics on the sidewalk in front of their buildings in protest all dressed in genuine leather and fur coats. LOL
I rememeber being at a county fair some years back that actually had a PETA stand there.
I had just bought some fishing gear at another stand when the girl there started telling me how it was not only cruel to the fish because the fish felt the pain from the hook but also because it was painful for the worm to be put on a hook.
I LMAOd as a I walked away teeling her she was in dire need of "help"
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It's called the food chain, we're at the top...blame evolution, not me. Even Jebus ate fish.
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
What we need to start toind is finding a PEta building and holding picnics on the sidewalk in front of their buildings in protest all dressed in genuine leather and fur coats. LOL
I rememeber being at a county fair some years back that actually had a PETA stand there.
I had just bought some fishing gear at another stand when the girl there started telling me how it was not only cruel to the fish because the fish felt the pain from the hook but also because it was painful for the worm to be put on a hook.
I LMAOd as a I walked away teeling her she was in dire need of "help"
DRED I think it would be interesting to see the fallout from an event like this:
Truck the Chickens in live packed in very small cages. Slaughter them on the spot. Then they move to the cleaning line. Then dressing. Then grilling and cooking. Than a big old BBQ right in front of PETA HQ. You can even go so far as to feed homless people or something.
Them sayin you are being insensative would akin to you saying they are violating your rights of free speech and peacfull protest. Lord knows they've done some insensative things (handing buckets of blood to kids outside of KFC)
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Plants send out electrical impulses when damaged that can be interpreted as pain. What the hell are these guys gonna do if this is proved.
There are several girls I know at college that are vegetarians. 1 of them is constantly catching illnesses, another has to take dozens of pills each day because of her poor diet which made her very ill last year.
Fish and chips is great!
:)
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A lot of these nutcases won't be happy until the human race is completely eradicated--they hate humanity and see it as a blight upon the world.
Free speech certainly has its drawbacks, sometimes.
J_A_B
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Oh, and why aren't these groups working towards the eradicaton of all predatory animals? I bet it hurts the fish when a shark eats it, too. I doubt the mouse particularly likes the way a cat usally plays with it before delivering the killing blow.
They're just a bunch of self-hating nutjobs IMO.
J_A_B
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I've stopped eating all meat and vegetable matter in support of our carbon based bretheren.
Join us!
http://www.breatharian.com/
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I think that they should ban Fish & Chips in Britain. Why? Because it’s much easier to say, “All British food sucks.” then it is to say, ”All British food sucks except Fish & Chips.”
eskimo
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Lol Beetle you sure are scraping the barrel for your Blair witch hunt.
Some Peta nuts, (and i think most will agree they are fruit and nut cases) make a stupid suggestion and you try to link it to Blair with the "Nanny state" tag.
If you really feel that strongly about getting Blair out then get off yer butt, on yer feet and go door knocking.
One thing though, best make sure your dental insurance is fully paid up :)
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Fortunatly there will still be some paki/indiand kabob to eat in England :)
Else if we have to eat native food ...
starving is a horrible way to die :D
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
What we need to start toind is finding a PEta building and holding picnics on the sidewalk in front of their buildings in protest all dressed in genuine leather and fur coats. LOL
I rememeber being at a county fair some years back that actually had a PETA stand there.
I had just bought some fishing gear at another stand when the girl there started telling me how it was not only cruel to the fish because the fish felt the pain from the hook but also because it was painful for the worm to be put on a hook.
I LMAOd as a I walked away teeling her she was in dire need of "help"
The PETA world headquarters is located here in Norfolk, VA. It is often suggested to have a BBq or picnic in front of it. A local radio station's morning show has had in the past (until forced to change the name) The FM99 Tommy and Rumble PETA fishing Tournament. People would decorate their boats with stuff like foam target deer with arrows stuck in em and other hilarious stuff. I would be all for trying to organize a BBQ or something for any who are interested.
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
I've stopped eating all meat and vegetable matter in support of our carbon based bretheren.
Join us!
http://www.breatharian.com/
Was looking for an animated gif of a coocoo clock but couldnt find one perhaps smeone can help out
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I once dined at a breatharian restaurant... No food, but the atmosphere was wonderful.
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
I once dined at a breatharian restaurant... No food, but the atmosphere was wonderful.
oh...my...god.
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Fish and chips are delicious.
That being said, if the human population keeps expanding, were going to have to all be near vegetarians. A little bit of meat (2 or 3 times a week) is optimum.
I've heard some estimates of the K capacity (carrying capacity) of the Earth to be around 50 billion humans. This includes food and physical space.
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An animal welfare group has demanded a ban on fish and chips because cod, haddock and plaice feel pain and distress when caught.
The idea of banning fish may sound funny now, but there was once a time not too long ago when the idea of a smoking ban or gay marriage sounded funny. Enjoy your fish while you can.
ra
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Malthusians are always proven wrong in the long term.
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If PETA people don't eat meat...more for me...love soaking some ribeye or rump roast in Jack Daniels for a day or two, then cookin it and covering it in A-1 and some mushrooms and of course, sourdough bread.
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
I once dined at a breatharian restaurant... No food, but the atmosphere was wonderful.
When I was a Breatherian the put a Krispy Kreme in my neighborhood and I gained ten pounds and got zits.
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I had some fish & chips today - just a small portion. :aok
Late last year and during this year, I did a fair amount of electrical work in this house I bought in Sept.2003. The front porch light didn't work, neither did the front garage flood light nor the back garden floodlight - whose switch was in the garage anyway - bloody stupid place for it. :rolleyes:
So I installed movement sensitive floodlights - by the front door, driveway, side of house and back garden. I also added a light for the inside of the meter box cupboard at the front of the house. I rewired the garage lighting as part of this project as the old lights were wired directly in and did not have switches! (Even though they're movement sensitive, I still wanted the ability to isolate them) Not only that, but the wrong type of wiring had been used - ringmain cable instead of lighting cable, and with many wires to go into the same junction box, the ringmain wire was too thick and would have caused problems. I replaced the single light bulb socket inside the garage with two neon strip lights running the length of the garage.
Inside the house, I've replaced the single bulb light fittings in each of my three bathrooms, and replaced them with spotlight fittings, four spots in each fitting. The kitchen lightswitch broke a few weeks ago, so I bought a replacement and fitted it.
But now, the latest in a long list of Blair's Nanny State bans comes the ban on doing your own electrical work in your own home!! It's true - as of 2005, a certified electrician must do it for you, or else if you do your own work, you have to have it inspected.
I'm sensible enough to know that if work needs doing to the consumer unit or anything upstream of it, that's an electrician's job. But now it seems that judgement call is to be taken away from me - Nanny knows best.
So I was thinking - that job to replace the kitchen light switch took me about 20 minutes. To do it legally from 2005, I'd have to find an electrician, have him tell me he can look at it in three weeks time, not show up, get another electrician, be told he'll call between 8am and 6pm, wait in all day to find that he comes at 5:45pm, needs another part, arrange another day at home and another site visit....
... can you imagine it? How the hell they're going to police the new laws I don't know. A licensing system for electrical components such as switches and cable?
Well bugger it. If I need something doing, I'm going to do it myself. Bollocks to Blair and his Nanny State.
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My roommate is looking at me wierd for how hard I'm laughing at some of the stuff in this post.
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Hmmm...i'm not that fond of fish, but perhaps it's time to give it another try.
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Originally posted by eskimo2
I think that they should ban Fish & Chips in Britain. Why? Because it’s much easier to say, “All British food sucks.” then it is to say, ”All British food sucks except Fish & Chips.”
eskimo
LMAO quite funny.
But you've obviously never had a roast dinner with Yorkshire Pudding. And after living in Scotland for two years I miss Haggis.
If governments had their way we would all be living in a world like in the movie Judge Dred. Makes you wonder if they have nothing better to do then nancy around with such ideas.
Thanks to Bush, Blair's days are well and truly numbered. So Fish n Chips should survive.
...-Gixer
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Originally posted by Gixer
And after living in Scotland for two years I miss Haggis.
The wonderful thing about Haggis is that it looks the same going in as it does coming out.
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beet1e why dont you just move the canada and be done with it...with the money you get from selling your shack, you could practicly buy a mansion here...
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Originally posted by vorticon
beet1e why dont you just move the canada and be done with it...with the money you get from selling your shack, you could practicly buy a mansion here...
Or come to the land of the (well, mostly still) free, Beet1e. BTW, vorticon...I looked at your sig block, and just had to check my Webster's. They do, indeed, claim copyright for the whole language. LMAO.
shubie
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At least they taking the correct attitude towrds sheep.....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wiltshire/4088497.stm
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I make a policy of not eating guts, anything that has less than or more than 4 legs, and anything that has a larva stage in it's life cycle.
substitute extremities for legs (birds)
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Originally posted by Suave
I make a policy of not eating guts, anything that has less than or more than 4 legs, and anything that has a larva stage in it's life cycle.
substitute extremities for legs (birds)
What about fins? Lobster and shrimp have more than four legs
I believe it is in Deuteronomy where it says- "these ye shall not eat of them that have a larval stage in their lifecycle, chew the cud, or of them that divide the cloven hoof; as the camel, and the hare, and the coney: for they chew the cud, but divide not the hoof; therefore they are unclean unto you."
But I could be wrong on that.
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I don't know about dueterotomy. But lobster and shrimp are bugs that develope from larva. And fish don't have legs, but mainly I don't eat fish because they taste like fish.
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The animal welfare people are merely defending the rights of survivably challenged creatures lower on the food chain that are disproportionately consumed by more complicated creatures higher on the food chain.
To balance demand and reduce pressure on traditional supply side phyla and ingrates, for every 12 crawling sea creatures, 8 fish, 4 hoofed mammals and 3 birds consumed, eat 1 animal welfare advocate.