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Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: GRUNHERZ on November 23, 2004, 03:08:12 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapcf/11/22/nz.dolphins.reut/index.html

Damn!  :D
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: -tronski- on November 23, 2004, 06:33:02 AM
Good reason to buy dolphin safe tuna

 Tronsky
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: Angus on November 23, 2004, 06:57:41 AM
I've heard some stories like that before.
Seems that dolphins really hate sharks. They sometimes kill sharks, it's told, by punching them mercilessly with their nose.

Then there is the tale of the sexmad dolphin, I think it was stalking swimmers near a european cost. Anyone remember this?
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: Urchin on November 23, 2004, 08:12:10 AM
I think I'd have to bet on the shark in that fight...
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: rpm on November 23, 2004, 08:23:42 AM
Dolphins have been known to do some pretty amazing things. I remember reading a story about shipwrecked sailors in WW2 being held afloat by dolphins until help arrived.
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: Angus on November 23, 2004, 08:29:38 AM
Dolphins gangbang and outperform sharks :D
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: mosgood on November 23, 2004, 08:35:23 AM
I always wondered what kind of consciousness a dolphin really has.


was this just an instinct that is based from how they protect their young, or do they have a higher consciousness then we know?

Stay tuned for another episode of " Flipper VS Jaws!"
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: deSelys on November 23, 2004, 09:24:56 AM
Dolphins are some kind of sea-wookies, IMO.

That's how I would scientifically explain it.
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: Muckmaw1 on November 23, 2004, 09:39:00 AM
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Originally posted by Angus
Dolphins gangbang and outperform sharks :D



PERK THE DOLPHIN!!!
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: ra on November 23, 2004, 09:39:55 AM
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Originally posted by Urchin
I think I'd have to bet on the shark in that fight...

The only advantage the shark has is great, sharp, nasty, pointy teeth.  The dolphin has all the other advantages, including intelligence and agility.  Not to mention they have dar.  I'd put my money on the dolphin.
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on November 23, 2004, 09:42:29 AM
And dolphins have an attractive blow hole.
-SW
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: Curval on November 23, 2004, 09:43:25 AM
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Originally posted by ra
The only advantage the shark has is great, sharp, nasty, pointy teeth.  


We cannot risk another frontal assault...that shark is dynamite.

 :D
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: RTStuka on November 23, 2004, 09:54:40 AM
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Originally posted by Urchin
I think I'd have to bet on the shark in that fight...



Ill take that bet, my money goes on he dolphins...... Does make you wonder though, are they even smarter than we think they are or was this instinct. From other stories ive read I would like to believe that they are very very smart animals who are very concious about thier actions.
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: Hawklore on November 23, 2004, 09:58:01 AM
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Originally posted by Urchin
I think I'd have to bet on the shark in that fight...


5 or 6 dolphins could take on a great white, and maybe not kill it, but def. want it to be somewhere else..
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: mosgood on November 23, 2004, 10:02:45 AM
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
And dolphins have an attractive blow hole.
-SW


I thought that was a handy cupholder!!  :eek:
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: GtoRA2 on November 23, 2004, 10:09:36 AM
Angus
 I read about the sex crazed one...



 There is also aparantly a deviant comunity that likes to have sex with dolpins, unless the pages out there are fake...
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: Flit on November 23, 2004, 10:09:44 AM
Did'nt Flipper kill a shark or two every other episode?
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Post by: Red Tail 444 on November 23, 2004, 10:15:01 AM
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Originally posted by Flit
Did'nt Flipper kill a shark or two every other episode?


Yes but those were reef sharks, who only prey on fish, relatively harmlesss to humans. I don't remember seeing him mix it up with any Bull or Tiger sharks, the sissy :lol

There's no gurantee the GWS would have attacked, IMO, there are sharks swimmng around us a lot more often than one would imagine. If he was gonna hit the swimmers, he would have come up from below - FAST!
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: Sixpence on November 23, 2004, 11:23:30 AM
Dolphins have been known to do this. From what I understand, they ram the shark in his gills, causing him to drown somehow.
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Post by: Holden McGroin on November 23, 2004, 11:25:12 AM
This could not possibly be some folks who had a boring day at the beach and decided to spice up the day with a good story... could it?

Sorry, no I am absolutely sure the story is a true example of inter-species altruisim.
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: Red Tail 444 on November 23, 2004, 11:26:49 AM
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Dolphins have been known to do this. From what I understand, they ram the shark in his gills, causing him to drown somehow.


yup, and totheir belly,causing internal damage.Dolphins are pure muscle, they can kill someone with their fluke if they wanted too.They're tough animals.
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Post by: Angus on November 23, 2004, 11:27:23 AM
I thought they rammed them on the belly causing something to rupture inside them, but not sure.
BTW, here in Iceland we eat sharks and drink sharkliver oil.

I just drool when I see Jaws....MMMMMMMM :D
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: Sixpence on November 23, 2004, 11:27:34 AM
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
This could not possibly be some folks who had a boring day at the beach and decided to spice up the day with a good story... could it?

Sorry, no I am absolutely sure the story is a true example of inter-species altruisim.


altruism
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: Manedew on November 23, 2004, 11:35:26 AM
Bender: Who wants dolphin?  [Everyone gasps]
 Leela: Dolphin?  But dolphins are intelligent.
Bender: Not this one.  He blew all his money on instant
        lottery tickets.
 Leela: Oh. That's different.  Pass the blowhole.
   Amy: Can I have a fluke?
Hermes: Hey, quite hogging the bottlenose.
 Prof.: Toss me the speech center of the brain.
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: Sox62 on November 23, 2004, 11:36:44 AM
Killer Whales do a number on sharks to.

http://www.cnn.com/EARTH/9710/08/whale.vs.shark/
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: Bcnu on November 23, 2004, 11:43:10 AM
This isn't new, ancient Roman sailors reported the same thing.

However:

http://www.elasmo-research.org/education/topics/b_corner.htm
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: Airhead on November 23, 2004, 12:03:52 PM
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Originally posted by -tronski-
Good reason to buy dolphin safe tuna

 Tronsky


Dolphin-free tuna is about the most bland tasting thing ever. And instead of freeing Willy they should have canned him, sold the cans as collectables and donated the money to marine research.
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: GRUNHERZ on November 23, 2004, 12:27:02 PM
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Originally posted by Airhead
Dolphin-free tuna is about the most bland tasting thing ever. And instead of freeing Willy they should have canned him, sold the cans as collectables and donated the money to marine research.


Shame, Airhead, Shame. :(
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Post by: Airhead on November 23, 2004, 12:51:07 PM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Shame, Airhead, Shame. :(



Grun, I'm only being practical- they knew when they released Willy he probably wouldn't survive because killer whale pods are reluctant to allow strange whales to join. Marine wildlife conservation efforts would have been better served had they shipped Willy to a cannery, put a cute Willy label on the cans and sold them for five bucks a pop. I'd have bought a few to give as Christmas gifts.

And dolphin-free tuna DOES taste bland to me. So there.
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: GRUNHERZ on November 23, 2004, 01:01:39 PM
:aok

Would there be fat free willy whale meat cans too?
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: Airhead on November 23, 2004, 01:18:44 PM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
:aok

Would there be fat free willy whale meat cans too?


Grun, we wouldn't eat the can of Willy- we'd save it as a collectable, like a Beanie Baby or baseball cards.

Eating Killer Whale?? That's disgusting. :(
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: Red Tail 444 on November 23, 2004, 01:23:57 PM
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Originally posted by Angus
I thought they rammed them on the belly causing something to rupture inside them, but not sure.
BTW, here in Iceland we eat sharks and drink sharkliver oil.

I just drool when I see Jaws....MMMMMMMM :D


SKAAAAL!

Yes, and it does take quite a person to eat shark the way you prepare it. I tried it, and grew to like it, but the first two bites.......tough stuff!

Are you stationed on the base, or are you icelandic? I think Iceland's beautiful, I cant wait to go back there....have things settled downsince Ht. Hekla erputed again?
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: GRUNHERZ on November 23, 2004, 01:31:30 PM
Is it you who icelanders eat that fremented shark meat?

Airhead,

It tastes just like chicken...
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: GRUNHERZ on November 23, 2004, 01:32:09 PM
Is it you who icelanders eat that fremented shark meat?

Airhead,

Killer whale tastes just like dog...  Yum!
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: AWMac on November 23, 2004, 01:42:24 PM
I heard that people that double post are actually trying to compensate for something they're lacking.

:D
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: GRUNHERZ on November 23, 2004, 02:07:01 PM
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Originally posted by AWMac
I heard that people that double post are actually trying to compensate for something they're lacking.

:D


Yep, my meager post count definetely needs a boost.  :)
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: RightF00T on November 23, 2004, 02:10:23 PM
They may have beat those sharks, but dolphins are no match with the sharks with friggin lasers on their heads.
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: Angus on November 23, 2004, 02:23:35 PM
Shark tastes like upperneck-horsefat soaked in ammoniak.
Whale is like beef with a slight ocean taste, - soak it in milk overnight and it will taste identical to beef. A wee softer, depends on the whale.
Oh, I am Icelandic, but I've been to the base working and visiting. I once dined at the officer's club after drinking at the Privateer bar.
I had a work day there as well, dined as Wendy's, - bloody horrible food. Would have picked Shark+Whale, lol.
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: Lizking on November 23, 2004, 02:26:55 PM
It is dolphin SAFE, not dolphin FREE.  It has only to do with the catching method, not the content of the can, Airhead, you maroon.
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: Vulcan on November 23, 2004, 02:47:07 PM
Wow, interesting storey (full local one is below). Many years ago when I worked retail one of my really good customers got chewed up by a great white down at Campbell Island (he bought Amiga stuff from me for video editing). He had been body surfing and it mistook him for a seal. I never forgot the chill down my spine when I heard about it on the news (he was part of a small research team down there). He stopped into see me many months later after he'd healed up quite a bit. It had spun on his arms, one arm was pretty much gone, the other had strips of flesh stripped off it almost to the bone at intervals where the teeth had spun.

Very nasty, very very nasty.




Dolphins save swimmers from great white shark
24 November 2004  

A pod of dolphins herded swimmers together to protect them from a great white shark off a Northland beach.


Four surf lifesavers were swimming 100 metres off Ocean Beach, 36 kilometres southeast of Whangarei, last month when dolphins began circling them and beating the water with their tails.

Rob Howes, his 15-year-old daughter Niccy, Karina Cooper and Helen Slade spent the next 40 minutes in the water surrounded by the dolphins before they could swim back to shore.

The four – from Whangarei Heads Surf Lifesaving Club – had been on a training swim when the pod of seven dolphins arrived.

"They were absolutely steaming in toward us, which is normal. They may surf a few waves or hang around for a while and then they disappear," Mr Howes said.

But what happened next astounded the veteran lifeguard.

"They started to herd us up. They pushed all four of us together by doing tight circles around us."

Mr Howes tried to drift away from the group, but two of the bigger dolphins herded him back.

Then he saw why – a three-metre long great white shark was cruising toward the group about two metres below the surface, before it veered away.

"I just recoiled. It was only about two metres away from me, the water was crystal clear and it was as clear as the nose on my face."

When he saw the shark, Mr Howes realised what the dolphins were doing.

"They had corralled us up to protect us."

Mr Howes said he kept calm and did not tell the other three swimmers.

Miss Cooper said the dolphins' behaviour was really weird. "They just started circling us and banging their tails on the water. It freaked me out."

Lifeguard Matt Fleet had been patrolling out from the surf beach in a rescue boat nearby and saw the dolphins' unusual behaviour.

He dived out of the boat to join the group and also saw the great white.

Mr Fleet said the water had been clear and he had a good view. "Some of the people later on the beach tried to tell me it was just another dolphin but I knew what I saw."

Mr Fleet was keen to get out of the water after the sighting, but did not panic. "I just kept looking around to see where it was."

The incident happened on October 30, but Mr Howes said he had kept the story to himself till now because he did not want the great white to be hunted.

Auckland University marine mammal research scientist Rochelle Constantine said dolphins were normally vigilant in the presence of sharks.

The altruistic response of the dolphins was normal, she said.

"They like to help the helpless."

The slapping of their tails on the water was the dolphins' way of communicating and could have been a grouping function to bring them all together, Dr Constantine said.

Ingrid Visser, who has been studying marine mammals for 14 years, said there had been reports from around the world of dolphins protecting swimmers.

"They (the dolphins) could have sensed the danger to the swimmers and taken action to protect them," she said.

Miss Visser, of Orca Research, said dolphins would attack sharks to protect themselves and their young.
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: Airhead on November 23, 2004, 03:34:39 PM
Lizking, how do we "really" know what gets put into tuna cans? Most fishing boats are owned by the Japanese, and you know how sneaky they are- remember Pearl Harbor?
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: GRUNHERZ on November 23, 2004, 03:39:53 PM
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Originally posted by Airhead
Lizking, how do we "really" know what gets put into tuna cans? Most fishing boats are owned by the Japanese, and you know how sneaky they are- remember Pearl Harbor?


And just what is that supposed to mean mister??? Even a racist like you should know that very few dolphins, if any at all, were harmed during the pearl harbor operation....

:mad:
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Post by: Vulcan on November 23, 2004, 03:41:32 PM
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Originally posted by Airhead
Lizking, how do we "really" know what gets put into tuna cans? Most fishing boats are owned by the Japanese, and you know how sneaky they are- remember Pearl Harbor?


Actually, I believe Dolphin is resold as whale meat in Japan and fetches far more $$$ as such. Its kinda like the your eating dog at an Asian restaurant myth. Dog is actually a delicacy and you pay a lot extra for it.
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Post by: Lizking on November 23, 2004, 03:47:09 PM
Because some of us can tell the flesh of a mammal from that of a fish.
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Post by: Angus on November 23, 2004, 03:51:32 PM
I've heard that some 20K dolphins actually get killed in fishnets off the SE US coast each year.
Since it's a dead animal anyway, better sell it, however the price may have something to do with accident rates if being very favorable.......
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: Lizking on November 23, 2004, 03:56:32 PM
The dolphins are literally too smart for their own good.  They have learned that the netting operation is a great place to get scooby snacks without having to chase the tuna.  Unfortunately, they have not yet figured out how to escape the net.
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: Airhead on November 23, 2004, 03:59:29 PM
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Originally posted by Lizking
The dolphins are literally too smart for their own good.  They have learned that the netting operation is a great place to get scooby snacks without having to chase the tuna.  Unfortunately, they have not yet figured out how to escape the net.


Fish do the same thing- seagulls, too. Is that a learned behavior? I think dolphins are stupid.
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Post by: Red Tail 444 on November 23, 2004, 04:05:04 PM
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Originally posted by Angus
I've heard that some 20K dolphins actually get killed in fishnets off the SE US coast each year.
Since it's a dead animal anyway, better sell it, however the price may have something to do with accident rates if being very favorable.......


I recall seeing some hidden camera footage of a dolphin slaughter in Japan. They had them corralled in a harbor, netted then entrance,and went-to-town on them.

Where inIceland are you? I stayed at a bed and breakfast called Annas Guest House, which used to be the czech ambassador's house. has smoked puffin, and monk fish at a "leykjabritten" restauraunt (or thats what the name sounded like)
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Post by: capt. apathy on November 23, 2004, 04:15:05 PM
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Dolphins have been known to do this. From what I understand, they ram the shark in his gills, causing him to drown somehow.


thats how I understood it.
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: rpm on November 23, 2004, 04:38:42 PM
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Originally posted by Airhead
Lizking, how do we "really" know what gets put into tuna cans? Most fishing boats are owned by the Japanese, and you know how sneaky they are- remember Pearl Harbor?
Airhead, the majority of fishing vessels we boarded for inspection when I was in the Coast Guard were Korean. They outnumbered Japanese ships at least 4 to 1 in the North Pacific. The Russians were the fun ones to board, great traders.
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: Airhead on November 23, 2004, 04:56:13 PM
Japanese... Korean... They're all the same, right?
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: Urchin on November 23, 2004, 05:09:16 PM
Genetically speaking.. yes.  

Culturally speaking.... I wouldn't ever call one the other... liable to get you kung-fu chopped.
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: SunTracker on November 23, 2004, 05:10:28 PM
In scientific experiments, dolphins refused to attack large living sharks.  I'm not talking about Great Whites, but Bull and Nurse sharks.

So who knows.
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: CptTrips on November 23, 2004, 05:13:49 PM
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Originally posted by Airhead
Grun, we wouldn't eat the can of Willy- we'd save it as a collectable, like a Beanie Baby or baseball cards.

Eating Killer Whale?? That's disgusting. :(



Hmmmm  (Wabbit mentally caculates the potential profits of other celeberty products...."Can o' Arafat",  and soon on a shelf near you "Can o' Castro"......Ka Ching!)


:cool:
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: Angus on November 23, 2004, 05:37:52 PM
Red tail, I'm in the south, roughly 100 miles from the airbase.

I know of the places you mentioned. Lækjarbrekka? Was definately expensive.
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: Vulcan on November 23, 2004, 07:16:02 PM
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Originally posted by Red Tail 444
I recall seeing some hidden camera footage of a dolphin slaughter in Japan. They had them corralled in a harbor, netted then entrance,and went-to-town on them.


No hidden cameras required, its a traditional hunt thats been done for something like 600 years. Theres lots of things they (Asians) find equally strange about our eating habits.
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Post by: FUNKED1 on November 23, 2004, 07:26:12 PM
racists
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Post by: Airhead on November 23, 2004, 07:31:05 PM
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
racists


Shut up, n****r!! :mad:
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: SunTracker on November 23, 2004, 07:33:12 PM
Japanese still hunt whales.
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: Airhead on November 23, 2004, 07:47:50 PM
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Originally posted by SunTracker
In scientific experiments, dolphins refused to attack large living sharks.  I'm not talking about Great Whites, but Bull and Nurse sharks.

So who knows.


That's why they called it "Chicken Of The Sea."
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: majic on November 23, 2004, 10:46:59 PM
specieist
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 23, 2004, 11:36:47 PM
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Originally posted by Curval
We cannot risk another frontal assault...that shark is dynamite.

 :D





Thanks for the laugh :c)



ack-ack
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: -tronski- on November 24, 2004, 06:00:46 AM
Quote
Originally posted by SunTracker
In scientific experiments, dolphins refused to attack large living sharks.  I'm not talking about Great Whites, but Bull and Nurse sharks.

So who knows.


A no disqualification cage match?

 Tronsky

(I don't even like tuna)
Title: Dolphins save people from shark attack???
Post by: Heiliger on November 24, 2004, 06:27:51 AM
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Originally posted by -tronski-
A no disqualification cage match?

 Tronsky

(I don't even like tuna)


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