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Title: Question about the damage model
Post by: oboe on November 24, 2004, 01:21:14 PM

We know that wings can now 'break off' due to excessive aerodynamic stress; we know the wings also can receive fatal damage from cannon/machine/flak hits.

So my question is does one affect the other?  That is, if a wing has taken partial damage due to fire, is it more likely to fail during high-G manuevers?

Likewise, if a plane is currently undergoing heavy stress (high G turn) and receives machine gun fire, will fewer hits be required to cause the wing to fail?

I absolutely sawed off the wing of a Spit the other day with a high deflection shot of .50 cal, and wonder if the fact that he was turning hard made any difference.

Title: Question about the damage model
Post by: Midnight on November 24, 2004, 01:50:24 PM

This is one I would love to know for certain too.

It sometimes *seems* that way, but other times not.

I lean towards the later, because I've had my P-51 wings full of holes many times and have never lost a wing at high speed or sharp turns (lost due to the higher drag at high speed, or induced G in a turn)

Title: Question about the damage model
Post by: oboe on November 24, 2004, 10:22:07 PM

punt.  Inquiring minds and all that rot.

Title: Question about the damage model
Post by: Murdr on November 25, 2004, 02:13:28 AM

I doubt anyone but HTC staff can positively answer this.  As a bbs lurker though, my readings have given me the impression that the damage value to break a wing, and the G stress value to fail a wing are 2 seperate perameters that dont affect each other.

Title: Question about the damage model
Post by: straffo on November 25, 2004, 02:38:09 AM

Dunno if it's modelled but last night I had fire in the left fuel tank of my Typhoon ...
I pulled hard to line with the runway and my wing broke ...
 5 kills lost to my stupidty :)

Title: Question about the damage model
Post by: TexMurphy on November 25, 2004, 06:51:52 AM

On my Yak Ive only, as far as I know, broken wings when they have been damaged. Never from just pure G pulling stress.

The way to test this would be to take a plane with very good high G durability and stress it out. See how much stress you can put it through before anything breaks.

Then get someone to ping your wings and do the same thing.

Tex

Title: Question about the damage model
Post by: hitech on November 25, 2004, 08:49:57 AM

They do not effect eachother