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Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: 1K3 on November 25, 2004, 12:58:41 PM
Is Firefox worth the competetion?

I hope Firefox does not turn out like Netscape :lol
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: SunKing on November 25, 2004, 01:26:55 PM
Anything is better.

Another option I use is Opera.

http://www.opera.com/ (http://Opera)
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: BlueJ1 on November 25, 2004, 01:31:22 PM
I like FireFox better the IE. Seems somewhat faster on my PC and has pop up blockers and more goodies.
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: Nilsen on November 25, 2004, 02:55:42 PM
Love Firefox, hate IE and dislike Opera.
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: vorticon on November 25, 2004, 02:56:13 PM
there about equal...

the one or two things that it does better is  counterballanced by the sheer difficulty of getting plugins to actually work...
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: Nilsen on November 25, 2004, 03:07:41 PM
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Originally posted by vorticon
there about equal...

the one or two things that it does better is  counterballanced by the sheer difficulty of getting plugins to actually work...


yeah... plugins and firefox can be difficult at times. flash is one example
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: Panzzer on November 25, 2004, 04:04:25 PM
I've been using Firefox since v0.3 (was called Phoenix or something then...), that's over two years now. Haven't had too many problems, with flash or plugins. (Oh, for flash, download the player (http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash) and it should work just fine).

Before Firefox I used Opera, before that Netscape, and before Netscape I used Mosaic, so I haven't been using IE much...
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: Gh0stFT on November 25, 2004, 04:23:23 PM
i use IE since years, no problems, it works for Forum browsing
and emails, what do i miss?
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: vorticon on November 25, 2004, 04:25:44 PM
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Originally posted by Gh0stFT
i use IE since years, no problems, it works for Forum browsing
and emails, what do i miss?


apparently you get nasty stuff when you visit porn sites, firefox blocks it, making your porn viewing safer...thats about it really
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: Gh0stFT on November 25, 2004, 04:28:02 PM
LOL, ok i run XP SP2, my IE have pop up stopper build in,
anything else i have to care while surfing pr0n sitez ? ;) *G*
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: Nilsen on November 25, 2004, 04:55:05 PM
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Originally posted by Panzzer
I've been using Firefox since v0.3 (was called Phoenix or something then...), that's over two years now. Haven't had too many problems, with flash or plugins. (Oh, for flash, download the player (http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash) and it should work just fine).

Before Firefox I used Opera, before that Netscape, and before Netscape I used Mosaic, so I haven't been using IE much...


Ive done the same as you actually. Phoneix was great and all variarions since then has also been great.

Ive tried to install the flash player alot of times over the last few months but it just doesnt work. it tells me that it works when i install it, but it doesnt.
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: Maniac on November 25, 2004, 05:09:52 PM
Swedish and Finnish "Goverments" went out and warned people or rather incourege them not to use IE due to the latest security hole that still havent been patched by MS.

If you can read scandinavian heres the link : http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/it/story/0,2789,566877,00.html
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: Nilsen on November 25, 2004, 05:19:13 PM
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Originally posted by Maniac
Swedish and Finnish "Goverments" went out and warned people or rather incourege them not to use IE due to the latest security hole that still havent been patched by MS.

If you can read scandinavian heres the link : http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/it/story/0,2789,566877,00.html


Hey.. thats not scandinavian.. its swedish !

Any classes in scandinavian that i can sign up for ?



:p
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: Maniac on November 25, 2004, 05:21:48 PM
;)
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: Panzzer on November 25, 2004, 05:45:36 PM
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Originally posted by Maniac
If you can read scandinavian heres the link : http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/it/story/0,2789,566877,00.html

Umm.. that's scary, I understood almost everything what was said in that... And I thought I had forgotten all my Swedish classes from school times. :)
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: DREDIOCK on November 25, 2004, 08:13:43 PM
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Originally posted by vorticon
there about equal...

the one or two things that it does better is  counterballanced by the sheer difficulty of getting plugins to actually work...


My opinion is Firefox is the gratest thing since sliced bread.

Has IE beat hands down. It isnt even close

What plugin problems are you having?
I havent had a problem with a single one
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: DREDIOCK on November 25, 2004, 08:17:40 PM
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Ive done the same as you actually. Phoneix was great and all variarions since then has also been great.

Ive tried to install the flash player alot of times over the last few months but it just doesnt work. it tells me that it works when i install it, but it doesnt.


Just installed flash last night on another system for a game my daugher wanted to play on NickJr.com

All I had to do was to remember to close all browser windows when I ran the install,reboot then go back to the site and everything worked fine
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: rabbidrabbit on November 25, 2004, 11:18:03 PM
Tab browser windows blows Ie away...  all the other stuff is nice too.
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: BUG_EAF322 on November 26, 2004, 01:03:07 AM
firefox here :)
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: Dinger on November 26, 2004, 01:31:03 AM
Migration from IE to firefox is easy. For me it required zero adjustment time. I've had a slight problem with plugins, but that's because I think some other program has stolen the .xfi extension; anyway, download to desktop and run off of there (no need to reboot).  Plus, IE plugins usually end up being spyware anyway.  Flash on IE is a PITA because it's an ActiveX control, and if you automatically allow those, you're stupid.
Tabbed browsing I didn't understand or particularly deem useful. But after a few months, I wouldn't have it any other way.

the executable also loads faster, and pages load faster with firefox.
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: SOB on November 26, 2004, 02:19:43 AM
It's easy enough to try out, so you can download it and see if you like it.  The most difficult thing that I found was setting up Java, and even that was easy.  Just have to locate the installer (that was the hard part, but I was looking in the wrong place), then install it.  For all Macromedia (Flash & Shockwave), you can just go to their web sites and download the installers.  Two things that make Firefox my choice.  First is tabbed browsing, I love it.  Second is the third-party plug-ins...there's a bunch of them, and the browser can automatically check for updates to itself AND your plug-ins and install the updates at your request.  So far, I'm using plug-ins for mouse gestures (certain actions of the mouse control functions of the browser, and is infinitely configurable), Linkification (makes any text url a hyperlink), and Image Zoom.

I think it's definitely an improvement over IE.
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: Nilsen on November 26, 2004, 02:58:24 AM
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Just installed flash last night on another system for a game my daugher wanted to play on NickJr.com

All I had to do was to remember to close all browser windows when I ran the install,reboot then go back to the site and everything worked fine


Yeah I know that most others get it to work but I havent for some wierd reason. I even degraded myself to reading FAQ's and following instructions to see if i did something wrong, but no.

My puter is jinxed.  Oh... winxp pro with SP2
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: Redd on November 26, 2004, 05:36:01 PM
Firefox


Once you get used to tabbed browsing you can't go back.


I can't imagine using a bbs without tabbed browsing now.
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: scout on November 26, 2004, 06:28:20 PM
What killed FireFox for me (last time I tried) was the lack of inheritance for a copied Window.

In IE you can do CTRL-N and get an exact copy including inheritance of visited pages.

Is that fixed now or is that a functionality included in 'tabbed' browsing (which I never explored) ?

That and that some pages work in IE but not in FireFox (makes no difference if the non-working pages doesn't follow standard, they still don't work).
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: scout on November 26, 2004, 06:31:25 PM
And the swedish article talks about email.

"Sårbarheten öppnar version 6.0 av Explorer för virusormen Bofra som sprids med e-post."

"The vulnerability opens version 6.0 of Explorer for the 'virus-worm' Bofra spread by e-mail."
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: Dinger on November 27, 2004, 01:16:50 AM
actually, I found the tme spent reloading the same page something of a nuisance.  Of course, your style of browsing is your own business.
In IE, I would use Ctrl-N to open a new instance, reload the page, and follow some other thread.
In Firefox, I just click with the mousewheel on a link and it starts loading in another tab.  By the time I finish reading hte main page I often hafve several other tabs waiting to be read.  So Ctrl-N copying the location ends up being a waste of time when there's a better way.

again YMMV, de gustibus, etc.
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: Silat on November 27, 2004, 05:02:32 AM
I use an IE based browser called Maxthon,formerly it was MYIE. It works great has built in security.
Pick the one you like. I doesnt matter to me:)
They all have their problems.
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: VWE on November 27, 2004, 03:54:44 PM
Firefox is a great browser, thanks for whom ever listed a link to them on here a couple weeks back. I still have to use IE for my work website but everything else I go through Firefox. :aok
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: Staga on December 01, 2004, 08:50:10 AM
I luv me Firefox...

(http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/firefox_weathercast.jpg)

http://forecastfox.mozdev.org/
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: mosgood on December 01, 2004, 08:55:57 AM
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
Tab browser windows blows Ie away...  all the other stuff is nice too.


I agree... love the tabs features.

Seems to run a little faster too....

Firefox 4tw
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: BlueJ1 on December 01, 2004, 09:04:42 AM
Someone mind explaining the tab thing yal talkn about ?

I have FireFox, been using it for awhile. Maybe I am using this tab thing. Just wana make sure Im not missing out on anything.
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: straffo on December 01, 2004, 09:11:17 AM
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Originally posted by Staga
I luv me Firefox...

(http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/firefox_weathercast.jpg)

http://forecastfox.mozdev.org/


I think I would hate Helsinski :D

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/33_1101914382_weather.jpg)

We had a full blue sky yesterday ... not anymore
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: mosgood on December 01, 2004, 09:29:17 AM
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
Someone mind explaining the tab thing yal talkn about ?

I have FireFox, been using it for awhile. Maybe I am using this tab thing. Just wana make sure Im not missing out on anything.



you can have multiple pages open under seperate tabs in one browser.  Go to FILE and choose NEW TAB to open a new one.
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: rabbidrabbit on December 01, 2004, 10:04:28 AM
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Originally posted by mosgood
you can have multiple pages open under seperate tabs in one browser.  Go to FILE and choose NEW TAB to open a new one.


its easier if you let it open the tabs bar on start then just either rt click/open in new tab or double click in the tabs bar to open a new clean tab.
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: BlueJ1 on December 01, 2004, 10:06:20 AM
Cool. Thankyou kindly.
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: mosgood on December 01, 2004, 10:06:58 AM
ah  I like it!
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: Staga on December 01, 2004, 12:59:23 PM
Also Ctrl+T opens a new, blanco tab and Ctrl+N opens another Firefox browser.
Also double-click in tab-area opens a blanco tab.
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: Redd on December 01, 2004, 04:28:24 PM
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
Someone mind explaining the tab thing yal talkn about ?

I have FireFox, been using it for awhile. Maybe I am using this tab thing. Just wana make sure Im not missing out on anything.



I didn't discover the power of  tabs for ages.

using BBS as an example.

middle mouse button opens a new tab when you click on any Html  code/address.

So when you are looking down the list of threads, you middle click on all the threads you want to read. The thread then open in a new tabs while you continue to read.

It saves all the back and forward business , which saves lots of time.

 
Applies to any web page (say reading newspapers etc)
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: Rasker on December 01, 2004, 07:14:15 PM
I have Opera Firefox and Navigator.  I only use IE for MS sites or others that won't work with any other browser.  Just too many security holes showing with IE on a regular basis.

Opera is nice in that you can zoom in on images as well as text. Firefox won't do the former.
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: Staga on December 01, 2004, 07:28:35 PM
It doesn't? hmph guess mine is broken then...   ;)

(http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/firefox_zoom.gif)

https://update.mozilla.org/extensions/?application=firefox
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: Rasker on December 02, 2004, 12:25:48 AM
hmm, Staga, I followed the link to the extensions, but didn't see anything obvious, which extension is that?
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: SOB on December 02, 2004, 01:33:04 AM
https://update.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=firefox&id=139&vid=678

You can also set up image zoom with mouse gestures.  I have it set up so a right-click + mousewheel up or down to zoom in/out text and images.

https://update.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=firefox&id=39&vid=810
Title: FireFox vs Internet Explorer
Post by: Rasker on December 02, 2004, 08:30:39 AM
thanks much, both extensions installed and working well