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Title: The Grudge / Ju-On
Post by: SOB on November 26, 2004, 03:42:05 PM
If you liked The Grudge, and are considering renting the original Japanese version: Ju-On, save your money.  You've already seen the good version.  The Japanese one looks like the 80's made-for-TV version and ain't all that spooky.  The only entertainment value it held was my friends and I doing MST3K commentary for it.
Title: The Grudge / Ju-On
Post by: Heretic on November 26, 2004, 07:01:57 PM
SOB,

By reading your thread about The Grudge I am guessing this movie is made by the same guy who did The Ring?   Japanese versions is the clue I am going by.    
Is the The Grudge worth seeing in the theaters or should I wait for it to hit the movie rental stores?    
I told my wife I would like to see it but she told me "No freekin' way".  The Ring really freaked us out because we have an old well in our basement that is out of service. There is a cover on it and each time I go down to the basement I ALWAYS look to see if that cover has moved a fraction of an inch while I am down in the basement.      Pretty sad for a 36 year old guy to be so spooked by a movie huh?    :lol
Title: The Grudge / Ju-On
Post by: GRUNHERZ on November 26, 2004, 07:28:04 PM
Grudge sucked.
Title: The Grudge / Ju-On
Post by: SOB on November 26, 2004, 07:31:45 PM
Grun is stupid and ugly and a poo poo head.  Don't listen to him, he doesn't know what he's talking about.  The story was so so, but it was plenty spooky and that's what matters.  Good in the theater, but as with all spooky movies it'd be a great rental to watch at home in the dark too.  I don't know if it was from the same dude who did The Ring, but I haven't seen that movie...I guess I should check it out.  It's been in my Neflix queue for a while now, but hasn't made it to the top yet.
Title: The Grudge / Ju-On
Post by: GRUNHERZ on November 26, 2004, 07:57:45 PM
It was spooky? You were scared by that movie?

Good lord what a pansie you are SOB...


:aok
Title: The Grudge / Ju-On
Post by: -tronski- on November 26, 2004, 09:02:57 PM
I'll admit the wife and I were scared ****less by the Grudge (and similary by the Ring).

What I thought was good was that not only did they keep the original Ju-On director/writer, but still kept it based in japan...

 Tronsky
Title: The Grudge / Ju-On
Post by: Estes on November 26, 2004, 09:36:10 PM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
It was spooky? You were scared by that movie?

Good lord what a pansie you are SOB...


:aok


agree didn't like the grudge. the ring was decent enough though. All those stupid annoying ass, throat moaning sounds was enough to make me want to leave.
Title: The Grudge / Ju-On
Post by: Raptor on November 26, 2004, 10:43:50 PM
After that movie I could not feel my right arm because the girl I saw the Grudge with almost ripped my arm off she was so scared. For the most part I thought it was scary but it had enough stupid stuff to even it out. It had no real plot except dont go in that house or you will die.
It was very similar to the ring, especially because of the girl with the long black hair. I thought the ring was stupd, but then again I saw it on HBO and it got cut off after the well scene and I missed the only scary part when the girl came out of the tv. Instead of being a mystery like the Ring, I think the main part of the Grudge was to make you jump. Every 5 minutes or so someone died because of the girl with no jaw or the boy with the cri de chat disorder (make random cries like a cat).
Title: The Grudge / Ju-On
Post by: SOB on November 26, 2004, 11:33:34 PM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
It was spooky? You were scared by that movie?

Good lord what a pansie you are SOB...

Well not pee my pants, can't go to sleep scared, but yeah it was spooky.  If you can't spooked by a scary movie, what's the point of seeing it?

PS...Yes, I am a pansie!
Title: The Grudge / Ju-On
Post by: GRUNHERZ on November 26, 2004, 11:35:26 PM
OK SOB, but next time dont grab his arm so hard..
Title: The Grudge / Ju-On
Post by: SOB on November 27, 2004, 12:10:34 AM
LOL, he's my rock.
Title: The Grudge / Ju-On
Post by: AKIron on November 27, 2004, 10:07:30 AM
Like Waterworld and Road Warrior, the Grudge would have been better if there hadn't been The Ring before it. Betting Ring 2 will be good.
Title: The Grudge / Ju-On
Post by: Curval on November 27, 2004, 10:46:24 AM
I have now seen 28 days later and Dawn of the Dead.

The former is way better IMHO.

Haven't seen The Grudge yet.
Title: The Grudge / Ju-On
Post by: lazs2 on November 27, 2004, 10:56:26 AM
28 days later?   that was as stupid as it gets... let's see... if you get on3e drop of blood in your eye or mouth or open cut you are a zombie so the brits in it use..... cricket paddle things and machetes... (hint, pop the trunk of a police car or military vehicle and get some firepower there green teeth)

they live on a freakin island and the zombies don't swim but these brits can't figure out that a boat anchored 75 feet from shore would be zombie proof?    

They finally get ahold of a gun aned they.... throw it away?

dawn of the dead was a masterpiece... American to the bone.

lazs
Title: The Grudge / Ju-On
Post by: Curval on November 27, 2004, 10:59:23 AM
The Brits make better movies...what can I say.

A masterpiece?  Puleeeese.
Title: The Grudge / Ju-On
Post by: lazs2 on November 27, 2004, 11:03:01 AM
28 days was a crybaby and annoying movie.   I don't go to movies to see stupid people doing stupid stuff.  

the people in dawn of the dead acted more..... American and therefore.... better.  

lazs
Title: The Grudge / Ju-On
Post by: Curval on November 27, 2004, 11:14:31 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
28 days was a crybaby and annoying movie.   I don't go to movies to see stupid people doing stupid stuff.  

the people in dawn of the dead acted more..... American and therefore.... better.  

lazs


lol...sorry but the acting in Dawn of the Dead SUCKED.

Stupid people doing stupid things?  Like the security guy who takes away the cop's and the other guys weapons and then acts like "King of The Mall"?  Or the idiots who allow the old woman who is CLEARLY about to become a zombie into the mall with them.

Oscar winning script...lol.

:aok
Title: The Grudge / Ju-On
Post by: lazs2 on November 27, 2004, 11:16:46 AM
The people in dawn of the dead acted like a diverse group of people with varying smarts and backgrounds.... the people in 28 days all acted like sissies and morons.

lazs
Title: The Grudge / Ju-On
Post by: hawker238 on November 27, 2004, 04:40:01 PM
This beats the Kerry-Bush stuff.

:)
Title: The Grudge / Ju-On
Post by: Dowding on November 27, 2004, 04:59:21 PM
Just watched the Grudge with GF. I wasn't scared because I am rocks and ten tonne. But girlfriend did nothing but hide behind her hands or dig her nails into my arm. Think that means it was good.

I enjoyed it. Good story.

BTW, SOB, thanks for trying to let banana know about holding back Diplomacy. Managed to get a turn in. You Dutch poof. ;)
Title: The Grudge / Ju-On
Post by: Dowding on November 27, 2004, 05:00:15 PM
BTW, Dawn of the Dead sucks.

You need to see Shaun of the Dead. Not sure if it is out in the US yet.
Title: The Grudge / Ju-On
Post by: SOB on November 27, 2004, 07:35:09 PM
Dawn of the Dead was great, and Shaun of the Dead was hi-fuggin-larious!  And yer welcome, ya lazy beaner!
:D
Title: The Grudge / Ju-On
Post by: -tronski- on November 28, 2004, 01:50:49 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
28 days later?   that was as stupid as it gets... let's see... if you get on3e drop of blood in your eye or mouth or open cut you are a zombie so the brits in it use..... cricket paddle things and machetes... (hint, pop the trunk of a police car or military vehicle and get some firepower there green teeth)

they live on a freakin island and the zombies don't swim but these brits can't figure out that a boat anchored 75 feet from shore would be zombie proof?    

They finally get ahold of a gun aned they.... throw it away?

dawn of the dead was a masterpiece... American to the bone.

lazs


I liked them both, however it should be noted that it only took a bite to become a zombie in Dawn of the Dead, whereas if my memory serves 28 Days later was a virus hence only blood transfer was required. Also being Britain, you more likely to find a cricket bat, than a guy ontop of his gunstore with a sniper rifle (alot of good it did for Andy too!


At the end of dawn, Ving Rhames and co.  didn't escape as the island they sailed too had zombies (plus their supplies were gone)

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Originally posted by Dowding
BTW, Dawn of the Dead sucks.

You need to see Shaun of the Dead. Not sure if it is out in the US yet.


Would love to see Shaun

 Tronsky
Title: The Grudge / Ju-On
Post by: lazs2 on November 28, 2004, 10:16:30 AM
tronsky... bet I could find a gun in any country you dropped me in especially if I had the run of the place...  

In Dawn of the dead there were masses of zombies... in 28 days they were pretty spred out.   still.... why didn't they simply float around in sight of land?     In dawn of the dead... the guys with guns eventually win out and find the guy in the gun stores video camera.    

lazs
Title: The Grudge / Ju-On
Post by: -tronski- on November 28, 2004, 09:27:47 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
tronsky... bet I could find a gun in any country you dropped me in especially if I had the run of the place...  

In Dawn of the dead there were masses of zombies... in 28 days they were pretty spred out.   still.... why didn't they simply float around in sight of land?     In dawn of the dead... the guys with guns eventually win out and find the guy in the gun stores video camera.    

lazs


Didn't the camera belong to the yuppie and on the boat?

 Tronsky
Title: The Grudge / Ju-On
Post by: Curval on November 29, 2004, 05:44:44 AM
Lazs is referring to the "extras" on the DVD.

In one of the extra clips a videotape is shown after it was found during a sweep of the area after the zombies had been "beaten".  It was Andy from the gun store's video.
Title: The Grudge / Ju-On
Post by: lazs2 on November 29, 2004, 07:45:48 AM
and they didn't get "beaten" with cricket paddle thingies.   (or 9 irons).  

lazs
Title: The Grudge / Ju-On
Post by: deSelys on November 29, 2004, 09:42:55 AM
If you think that a redneck zombie is scary, wait until you meet a live one...


Title: The Grudge / Ju-On
Post by: Curval on February 01, 2005, 01:39:43 PM
Rented The Grudge today.  I will advise my thoughts.
Title: The Grudge / Ju-On
Post by: Curval on February 02, 2005, 02:09:44 PM
My synopsis:

Great beginning (balcony scene), creepy at times and had the wife and I jumping, LOUSEY ending.  

Avert eyes if you have not seen the movie and want to:



































She survived the fire she set at the end.  How?  Under investigation???!!!!  That was weak ass.  

Then surprise surprise...they saved the house and then the creepy chick shows up at the end.  Weak ass.
Title: The Grudge / Ju-On
Post by: Gunthr on February 02, 2005, 04:42:08 PM
I was enthused when I heard about it. But it didn't do it for me. I just don't care about it when they rely on sudden things jumping out at you. There is a real need for "sick dread" for a successful freak out film. (for me anyways) I don't want to be covering my eyes because I'm afraid some highly made up freak Japanese little kid is gonna scare me. And there should be a chance to fight back, for crying out loud.

Only me .02
Title: The Grudge / Ju-On
Post by: Shane on February 02, 2005, 04:58:39 PM
some other good goosebumpity movies if you liked the ring and grudge


ghost ship

when darkness falls
Title: The Grudge / Ju-On
Post by: SOB on February 02, 2005, 06:53:37 PM
That's part of what I liked about it.  If it gets to ya, you are shrecked.
Title: The Grudge / Ju-On
Post by: Estes on February 02, 2005, 07:14:25 PM
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Originally posted by Shane
some other good goosebumpity movies if you liked the ring and grudge


ghost ship

when darkness falls


It just kinda sucks to me that all the movies are basicly the same premise.

In Darkness falls, if you look at teh tooth fairy she gets ya.

In The Ring if you watch the movie, you are shrecked.

In the grudge, like SOB said. They get ya too.

At least in Darkness falls you could fight back.
Title: The Grudge / Ju-On
Post by: SunKing on February 02, 2005, 07:50:23 PM
The Grudge and all these other CGI hollywood horror movies are a sad trend in horror genre. I can't belive people call these ABC afternoon shorts horror.