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Title: If you want to play Day of Defeat: Source, don't get the retail version of the game
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 28, 2004, 11:00:37 PM
If you've bought the boxed version of Half-Life2, you're screwed if you want to play DoD: Source.  Only those that purchased and downloaded the Silver and Gold version of Half-Life2 via Steam get to play.  From the posts on the DoD and Steam forums, there are no plans at this time to offer an upgrade for those that purchased the box version.

Valve sucks.



ack-ack
Title: If you want to play Day of Defeat: Source, don't get the retail version of the game
Post by: Wotan on November 29, 2004, 12:39:19 AM
hmm, Its been common knowledge that you needed a silver package or higher to get DoD:Sourse...
Title: If you want to play Day of Defeat: Source, don't get the retail version of the game
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 29, 2004, 12:59:15 AM
It wasn't too me but then I stopped going to the Steam and DoD forums after DoD went to Steam only.

If I had known, I think I would have passed on HL2 since DoD was pretty much the only reason why I bought the game.  I want a hard copy of the game and not have to download it in case I need to reinstall it.  Oh well, at least I can still play Red Ochestra.



ack-ack
Title: If you want to play Day of Defeat: Source, don't get the retail version of the game
Post by: Nash on November 29, 2004, 01:04:54 AM
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Title: If you want to play Day of Defeat: Source, don't get the retail version of the game
Post by: tapakeg on November 29, 2004, 01:08:32 AM
is anyone else having sound stutering problems in HL2?  I have read some BBS's and several other people are. They say a patch is around the corner to fix it.

my system
2.4 processor
512 ram
9800 pro (128 mg)
audiology sound card
 all up to date drivers and direct x


accoding to some BBS comments, it's not a sound card issue, but a video issue with some people who need the patch.

didn't mean to change the subject, didn't want to start a new thread.
Title: If you want to play Day of Defeat: Source, don't get the retail version of the game
Post by: -tronski- on November 29, 2004, 05:09:13 AM
No probs with sound here, as for DOD - I stopped playing that sooo long ago it's not even an issue

 Tronsky
Title: If you want to play Day of Defeat: Source, don't get the retail version of the game
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 29, 2004, 05:13:58 AM
Quote
Originally posted by tapakeg
is anyone else having sound stutering problems in HL2?  I have read some BBS's and several other people are. They say a patch is around the corner to fix it.

my system
2.4 processor
512 ram
9800 pro (128 mg)
audiology sound card
 all up to date drivers and direct x


accoding to some BBS comments, it's not a sound card issue, but a video issue with some people who need the patch.

didn't mean to change the subject, didn't want to start a new thread.



I get it sometimes and there's supposed to be a patch in the works that fixes it.  The only work around that I know of that does work and pretty much has stopped it was turning off anti-aliasing and turning down my video settings one notch in windows.


ack-ack
Title: Re: If you want to play Day of Defeat: Source, don't get the retail version of the game
Post by: Maniac on November 29, 2004, 05:50:01 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Ack-Ack
If you've bought the boxed version of Half-Life2, you're screwed if you want to play DoD: Source.  Only those that purchased and downloaded the Silver and Gold version of Half-Life2 via Steam get to play.  From the posts on the DoD and Steam forums, there are no plans at this time to offer an upgrade for those that purchased the box version.

Valve sucks.



ack-ack


Now this sux, i bought the Boxed DVD version and i expected to get DoD for free.

Im pissed off now.

I paid 73$ for the game wich i guess is more money than either the Silver or Gold package.

As Ack-Ack said, DoD was pretty much the sole reason i got HL2.

Edit :

Quote
there are no plans at this time to offer an upgrade for those that purchased the box version.


What exactly does that mean? no DoD at all, even if we pay more money to get it???
Title: If you want to play Day of Defeat: Source, don't get the retail version of the game
Post by: moose on November 29, 2004, 06:29:44 AM
would they really be that stupid?

the backlash from players who bought retail would be incredible. and if its true, im F**king really pissed off.
Title: If you want to play Day of Defeat: Source, don't get the retail version of the game
Post by: Mighty1 on November 29, 2004, 06:53:19 AM
Already pissed!

Since I only have dialup it makes it hard everytime I have to connect just to play offline. I did everything they said to be able to play offline but nooooo I still have to connect every other day.

Connect wait 20 to 30 mins then play offline. Grrrr!

Good thing I beat it already or I would be even more pissed(BTW the ending sucks).

Not tried DOD since I got HL2 but it looks like I won't bother.

A big Grrrr to Valve!:mad:
Title: If you want to play Day of Defeat: Source, don't get the retail version of the game
Post by: Darkish on November 29, 2004, 10:12:05 AM
That's odd Mighty1 - when lauched without a connection I get the option to chose "play in offline mode".
Title: If you want to play Day of Defeat: Source, don't get the retail version of the game
Post by: Wotan on November 29, 2004, 10:25:53 AM
Quote
Originally posted by moose
would they really be that stupid?

the backlash from players who bought retail would be incredible. and if its true, im F**king really pissed off.


Valve makes more money off folks who bought HL2 via steam. DoD and HL are no longer 3rd party mods and Valve are the ones doing the work to get DoD:Source out. Just as they did with CS:Source.

Vivendi made most of the money off the box sales, if you expect something for 'free' expect it from them.

If you bought via Steam Valve made all the money and as a reward provides DoD:Source to silver and above.

Ack Ack

The hard copy of the Hl2 you bought is the same exact thing you DL via steam. You can burn yourself a copy just by right clicking on HL2 (steam, play games) and clicking on 'back up game files and burning it to a cd or DVD.

But even then all you need to remember is your steam nic and pw. I have HL2 and CS:Source and DoD on 3 computers. I just can't login into steam more then 1 time, so others can't be playing the on the other 2 cpus when I am logged on one of them. If my HDD crashed I just would download steam, sign in under my existing name and pw and re-download the games at no cost.
Title: If you want to play Day of Defeat: Source, don't get the retail version of the game
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on November 29, 2004, 10:37:29 AM
Don't you pay more for the Silver and above packages than you would for the HL2+CS:S box in the store?

Why wouldn't Valve just charge some $20 or something price to buy DoD:S to download from Steam?
-SW
Title: If you want to play Day of Defeat: Source, don't get the retail version of the game
Post by: Wotan on November 29, 2004, 11:18:14 AM
Ack Ack lefty out this in his quote above:

Quote
Further options may be available when DoD:S is eventualy released as a retail game.


DoD will be a retail game. At that time you can purchase it.

The only issue is who should get it for free...
Title: If you want to play Day of Defeat: Source, don't get the retail version of the game
Post by: Maniac on November 29, 2004, 11:31:46 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Wotan
Ack Ack lefty out this in his quote above:



DoD will be a retail game. At that time you can purchase it.

The only issue is who should get it for free...


Im worried about the choice of words in that quote.... i wonder what "eventualy" means. Looks like they wont rush that option...
Title: If you want to play Day of Defeat: Source, don't get the retail version of the game
Post by: Wotan on November 29, 2004, 11:47:32 AM
Activism is the publisher of DoD and DoD:Source. They 'sell' the box game.

Valve 'owns' the game.

Valve will sell it over steam and provide it as a 'bonus' to those who purchased a Silver or gold package over steam.

I don't how much more simple it gets...

The reason they iuse words like 'eventually' is becasue they don't want to pigeon hole themselves it a a release date like they did with HL2.

DoD:Source realease date is unknown and AFAIK there is no timetable or any info from Valve as to even a possibility of when it is to be released.
Title: If you want to play Day of Defeat: Source, don't get the retail version of the game
Post by: Maniac on November 29, 2004, 11:50:55 AM
Valve Suck.
Title: If you want to play Day of Defeat: Source, don't get the retail version of the game
Post by: texace on November 29, 2004, 12:01:53 PM
Why? Because they didn't package everything in a bright foil package with a bow on it?
Title: If you want to play Day of Defeat: Source, don't get the retail version of the game
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on November 29, 2004, 12:02:21 PM
You guys didn't get bows? Suckers.
-SW
Title: If you want to play Day of Defeat: Source, don't get the retail version of the game
Post by: Mighty1 on November 29, 2004, 12:27:45 PM
I get that to but it never works. It just keeps popping up.
Title: If you want to play Day of Defeat: Source, don't get the retail version of the game
Post by: MrLars on November 29, 2004, 12:50:38 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Mighty1
I get that to but it never works. It just keeps popping up.


Try this...

Go online and get to the games selection screen, right click on HL2 and create a shortcut on your desktop.

Add  " -console" w/o the quotes to the command line of the shortcut so it looks like this:

E:\Games\Steam\Steam.exe -applaunch 220 -console

Using the  -console in the command line seems to bypass the startup graphis and makes my machine launch the game much quicker. Hit the tildie key to open/close the console.

Then either firewall Steam or somehow disable your dial-up connection if you have it set to go online on demand.

Whe you launch from the shortcut Steam will try to go online to log you in, without the connection you'll get the "retry connection" and "stay in offline mode" box, select the offline mode and the game should launch to the Valve splash animation.


Hope this helps, it's a great game.
Title: Re: If you want to play Day of Defeat: Source, don't get the retail version of the ga
Post by: Saurdaukar on November 29, 2004, 12:55:29 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Ack-Ack
If you've bought the boxed version of Half-Life2, you're screwed if you want to play DoD: Source.  Only those that purchased and downloaded the Silver and Gold version of Half-Life2 via Steam get to play.  From the posts on the DoD and Steam forums, there are no plans at this time to offer an upgrade for those that purchased the box version.

Valve sucks.



ack-ack


Are you ****ing KIDDING me!?!?
Title: If you want to play Day of Defeat: Source, don't get the retail version of the game
Post by: moose on November 29, 2004, 03:15:41 PM
i wouldnt mind paying an extra $5 or $10 bucks for DoD:S. If they want retail buyers to actually buy another whole copy of the 'silver' edition, they're outta their minds.

I dont expect anything free but I don't expect to get shafted just cuz I went the traditional route of actually buying my game from a store.
Title: If you want to play Day of Defeat: Source, don't get the retail version of the game
Post by: Pooh21 on November 29, 2004, 03:22:38 PM
OT on HL2, can you be a different guy, then that bearded nerd? He looks friggen ghey
Title: If you want to play Day of Defeat: Source, don't get the retail version of the game
Post by: Wotan on November 29, 2004, 03:45:55 PM
Quote
Originally posted by moose
i wouldnt mind paying an extra $5 or $10 bucks for DoD:S. If they want retail buyers to actually buy another whole copy of the 'silver' edition, they're outta their minds.

I dont expect anything free but I don't expect to get shafted just cuz I went the traditional route of actually buying my game from a store.


Moose DoD:Source will be a stand alone retail game.

The only folks that get it for 'free' (if you can even call it that) are those who purchased the Silver or Gold packages via steam.

In general if you want DoD there will be a 'legal' way to get it. Of course there will alwasy be those 'not so legal ways' to get it.

FYI: there won't any gameplay changes to DoD:Source. Its just the same old DoD game play with the Source engine.

Just like CS:Source is the same game as CS 1.6
Title: If you want to play Day of Defeat: Source, don't get the retail version of the game
Post by: Wotan on November 29, 2004, 03:49:59 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Pooh21
OT on HL2, can you be a different guy, then that bearded nerd? He looks friggen ghey


Well there will be mods but HL2 is really the story of the bearded ghey looking guy Gordan Freeman.

For HL1 the official mods were Blue Shift (play as Barney) and Opposing Force (play as Recon Soldier). There's also a mod that lets you play as one of the alien's.

I am sure there will be similiar mods for HL2.