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Title: Hmm, Annan is disappointed :)
Post by: AKcurly on November 30, 2004, 12:53:27 AM: http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/11/29/oil.for.food.kojo.annan/index.html

UNITED NATIONS (CNN) -- U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan said Monday he was "disappointed and surprised" to learn that his son, Kojo, had remained on the payroll of a company involved in the Iraq oil-for-food program, the subject of several corruption probes.

curly
Title: Hmm, Annan is disappointed :)
Post by: Creamo on November 30, 2004, 01:10:21 AM: This might be a long shot, but I know some guys here work in the graphics/T-Shirt bizness, and may have some input.

Any good hints on starting a vinyl cutter business? I'm about sold on a Roland cutter in the $1200 range. Wondering if a 12" vs. a 15" cutter is a good entry level machine, or should I just go bigger?

I'd start with doing model decals, and hope to do boat graphics for the Tahoe crowd, and Reno is rich in the motorcycle / racing teams, so is a 15" cutter too small?

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Hmm, Annan is disappointed :)
Post by: DREDIOCK on November 30, 2004, 01:28:15 AM: Quote
Originally posted by AKcurly
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/11/29/oil.for.food.kojo.annan/index.html

UNITED NATIONS (CNN) -- U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan said Monday he was "disappointed and surprised" to learn that his son, Kojo, had remained on the payroll of a company involved in the Iraq oil-for-food program, the subject of several corruption probes.

curly

LOL Like the alcoholic father that is surprised and stunned to find out his kid is a drunk too
Title: Hmm, Annan is disappointed :)
Post by: AKcurly on November 30, 2004, 02:14:41 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Creamo
Any good hints on starting a vinyl cutter business? I'm about sold on a Roland cutter in the $1200 range. Wondering if a 12" vs. a 15" cutter is a good entry level machine, or should I just go bigger?

Thanks in advance.

Go bigger, Creamo - something in the $8,000 range.

curly
Title: Hmm, Annan is disappointed :)
Post by: Creamo on November 30, 2004, 02:20:47 AM: Can't afford that, and even 48" cutters do not get near 8K if you search.
Title: Re: Hmm, Annan is disappointed :)
Post by: CptTrips on November 30, 2004, 05:03:58 PM: Quote
Originally posted by AKcurly
Hmm, Annan is disappointed :)

Hmm, Wabbit is shocked. :rolleyes:
Title: Hmm, Annan is disappointed :)
Post by: Bodhi on November 30, 2004, 05:31:56 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Creamo
This might be a long shot, but I know some guys here work in the graphics/T-Shirt bizness, and may have some input.

Any good hints on starting a vinyl cutter business? I'm about sold on a Roland cutter in the $1200 range. Wondering if a 12" vs. a 15" cutter is a good entry level machine, or should I just go bigger?

I'd start with doing model decals, and hope to do boat graphics for the Tahoe crowd, and Reno is rich in the motorcycle / racing teams, so is a 15" cutter too small?

Thanks in advance.

Creamo,

FWIW, we have two vinyl machines (24" and 54") here that we use to make masks for whatever we are painting at the time. The one in use the majority of the time is a 54" Roland VersaCamm that prints and cuts. It is quite a machine and well worth it in the time it saves us as opposed to laying out masks by hand. If it was me, I would spend the money to go larger as it I found it to be a pain in the arse to have to splice together larger sized graphics, and invariably, the splices are not 100% on the spot dimesionally. It's your call, but if I could afford it, I would buy a larger machine of atleast 36" preferably around 54ish...

Best of luck i either way you go.
Title: Hmm, Annan is disappointed :)
Post by: Creamo on November 30, 2004, 11:40:56 PM: Thanks for the info, and it comes down to initial $ layout for what I want to do. I think the larger plotters are a big risk as I might be able to do most things I want on a 15" cutter, and I'm guessing it will pay itself off by summer with smaller projects. If that went well, I could go to a bigger one. If not, I'm still in the good.

At the very least it would between me and 4 others doing upscale models, we would save alot of the costs what we normally would have to order, taking the investment startup cost in half right there.

Anyway, so for like aircraft, you guys plot out a strip of vinyl and then paint in the cut-out, then peel it off? Or do you just use the vinyl?
Title: Hmm, Annan is disappointed :)
Post by: Bodhi on December 01, 2004, 04:31:15 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Creamo
Thanks for the info, and it comes down to initial $ layout for what I want to do. I think the larger plotters are a big risk as I might be able to do most things I want on a 15" cutter, and I'm guessing it will pay itself off by summer with smaller projects. If that went well, I could go to a bigger one. If not, I'm still in the good.

At the very least it would between me and 4 others doing upscale models, we would save alot of the costs what we normally would have to order, taking the investment startup cost in half right there.

Anyway, so for like aircraft, you guys plot out a strip of vinyl and then paint in the cut-out, then peel it off? Or do you just use the vinyl?

We create a mask, apply it to the aircraft. Paint the cut out... then remove the vinyl leaving a perfect paint job behind... no difference than flames on a car or that ilk.