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Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: Midnight on November 30, 2004, 02:03:07 PM
HTC

This is a gameplay request. Please add a new feature to AHII. Call it the Tough Guy Icon.

This would be an option that any player could turn on or off. When on, the player's icon would be visable on the map at all times, by all other players with the Tough Guy Icon option turned on. There would also be a new roster list that showed all the players online with the Tough Guy Icon option turned on.

I think we have enough players in AH that would turn this option on and then we would see where the biggest furballs got generated.

I for one would have this option turned on.
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: slimm50 on November 30, 2004, 02:09:25 PM
Hmmmm...I like that idea. Have you seen that done elsewhere, or did you think it up yourself?
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: eagl on November 30, 2004, 02:29:40 PM
It sounds like a variation on some ideas that went away when people's idents no longer showed up on enemy icons (many many years ago) and then when kills were no longer reported on the text buffer.  I like it...  It's a bit of a throwback idea to when 4 guys could wing in the arena, take on everyone that came their way, and kick butt even though their dots showed on the radar 100% of the time and everyone could see their idents.

The last time the Flying Pigs did that a few years ago (roving motorcycle gang through enemy territory), 4 of us landed nearly 30 kills and guys were scrambling to chase us down.  It was pretty fun.
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: streetstang on November 30, 2004, 02:50:27 PM
Yep, would be fun to have something like this again. Next best thing showing everyones personal tag.
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: Pongo on November 30, 2004, 03:22:50 PM
Not a bad idea. Would be a drag if you were a goon though..
oh ya..tough guys dont fly goons.
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: ygsmilo on November 30, 2004, 03:28:49 PM
But Midnite wouldn't your icon say:

I only engage when I have:  numbers, alt, and speed?

I don't think there would be enough room for that.
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: Westy on November 30, 2004, 03:29:42 PM
So would this new icon be bigger than the existing standard issue Aces High bishop, rook and knight icons.  Something at least twice the size? Such as a big honking "John Holmes" phallic icon?
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: ghi on November 30, 2004, 03:31:58 PM
or to have ranks in front of enemy,friendly icon,
soo if i see enemy icon--maj.LA7--  know i have to drop ord and run baby run:)
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: Redd on November 30, 2004, 04:15:23 PM
Midnight seems to have his knickers in a twist over the other thread.

But I like do Westy's John Holmes suggestion.

You could start your career with a little limp dick, which could in time develop into a raging Holmsey special.

Of course some would always stay limp as is the way of the world.
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: Midnight on November 30, 2004, 04:21:45 PM
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Originally posted by ygsmilo
But Midnite wouldn't your icon say:

I only engage when I have:  numbers, alt, and speed?

I don't think there would be enough room for that.


That's right milo, come right in and start throwing insults. It suits your tough guy personna.
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: ygsmilo on November 30, 2004, 04:27:56 PM
Midnite,,,

that was to easy,

relax take a deep breath.

I was yankin your chain.
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: Shane on November 30, 2004, 04:33:59 PM
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Originally posted by ygsmilo
Midnite,,,
that was to easy,
relax take a deep breath.
I was yankin your chain.


well you have to remember his chain is small and fragile.
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: rabbidrabbit on November 30, 2004, 05:03:36 PM
I would also ove to see a "jackazz" icon to the same effect except that it would kick on once 20 or more people in the arena type ".jackazz "trashtalkingbigmouthsname here".  Essentially, if you want to anounce to all on chan 1 or 200 what a complete jackazz you are they all get the chance to let you share your location as well as your potty mouth.
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: CavemanJ on November 30, 2004, 05:30:35 PM
Quote
Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
I would also ove to see a "jackazz" icon to the same effect except that it would kick on once 20 or more people in the arena type ".jackazz "trashtalkingbigmouthsname here".  Essentially, if you want to anounce to all on chan 1 or 200 what a complete jackazz you are they all get the chance to let you share your location as well as your potty mouth.


Heheh that would be hilarious.. but make it something like 30-45% of those online have to use the dot command, then the jackarse is highlighted for like 30min.  After his 30min are up, he can't be highlighted again for X hours (to prevent griefing someone into logging off with dweeb hunts).
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: rabbidrabbit on November 30, 2004, 05:38:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by CavemanJ
Heheh that would be hilarious.. but make it something like 30-45% of those online have to use the dot command, then the jackarse is highlighted for like 30min.  After his 30min are up, he can't be highlighted again for X hours (to prevent griefing someone into logging off with dweeb hunts).

exactly...>  let it time out after 30 mins to an hr with a recharge time.   You would need to have enough votes that some squad doesn't go about harrassing some poor soul.  That being said, I think it would be a great way to let the community police itself as well as limit  the trash talk we all have come to know and love.
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: Arlo on November 30, 2004, 05:51:46 PM
Add teenage icons, sex icons and hollywood icons.
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: plank on November 30, 2004, 06:14:16 PM
So if I get this right we're going to have a large, purple, throbbing icon, right?
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: DipStick on November 30, 2004, 08:46:09 PM
I think midnight just wants to save time finding easy (cherry-picking) kills, eh? ;)

Make it any easier Steve would probably even come back. Heck it might even get Zazen out of his re-arm pad osty. :lol
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: Jackal1 on November 30, 2004, 09:00:23 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Arlo
Add teenage icons, sex icons and hollywood icons.


  Yea, and how about a special scorpion icon? :D
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: midnight Target on November 30, 2004, 09:28:03 PM
ROFL....

I've had the "Come on suckers! Kill me! You all are weanies and I'm not" icon turned on for a while now.
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: ghi on November 30, 2004, 11:53:12 PM
Quote
Originally posted by DipStick
I think midnight just wants to save time finding easy (cherry-picking) kills, eh? ;)

Make it any easier Steve would probably even come back. Heck it might even get Zazen out of his re-arm pad osty. :lol

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: Nefarious on December 01, 2004, 12:02:35 AM
I think it would be cool to see a pilot who has a Kill streak over 5 have thier Icon's blink, Or Better yet have their Aircraft name replaced with thier name. So instead of 190 it would have thier handle, in Red.

And make it so, killing a pilot with a High Kill Streak would increase the ENY Value of the Kill.
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: Krusty on December 01, 2004, 01:34:08 AM
That's a feature of Fighter Ace (MS flight sim) -- you get a "*" in front of your name when you hit ace. It keeps track of kills in your  name. But then in FA I think  you see the player's name anyways. It's not a very good idea in practice.
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: Midnight on December 01, 2004, 09:50:30 AM
Quote
Originally posted by DipStick
I think midnight just wants to save time finding easy (cherry-picking) kills, eh? ;)


That all depends on how easy you would be to kill, Dipstick. Because I promise you that if you were tough guy enough to turn on the icon, I would hunt you every time you were within reach of rook fields.
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: wipass on December 01, 2004, 10:20:44 AM
This ................ is a brilliant idea !

Can you imagine the worry the "ace pilots"  would have in deciding to turn on or off the tough guy icon,  All the "legend in their own mind"   guys wondering if they would be thought of as scared if they didn't turn it on  .....   I would pay for this version to be introduced

wipass
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: lasersailor184 on December 01, 2004, 10:37:05 AM
Umm, I engage when i'm at a disadvantage, often diving into a pack of 10 or more enemies.  Can I have a tough guy icon?
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: rabbidrabbit on December 01, 2004, 10:40:22 AM
I still like the . jackazz option the most.
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: DipStick on December 01, 2004, 11:17:53 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Midnight
That all depends on how easy you would be to kill, Dipstick. Because I promise you that if you were tough guy enough to turn on the icon, I would hunt you every time you were within reach of rook fields.

Sorry I'm not a "tough guy". I just like to 'fight', usually in furballs. This is where you cherry-pick. I fight for 10 mins get a few kills then you come swooping down at 400+ and get your "hard fought kill" when I'm busy or rtb with damage / no ammo / no fuel. :rolleyes:
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: Midnight on December 01, 2004, 12:12:39 PM
Quote
Originally posted by DipStick
Sorry I'm not a "tough guy". I just like to 'fight', usually in furballs. This is where you cherry-pick. I fight for 10 mins get a few kills then you come swooping down at 400+ and get your "hard fought kill" when I'm busy or rtb with damage / no ammo / no fuel. :rolleyes:


Oh how my heart breaks for you always being the disadvantaged one. Poor you. Such pain you must endure being the furballer that nobody loves. I guess it's no fun being shot down by another plane that you weren't trying to have a fight with.

I would feel bad for you, but your poor little dilema is the same that every other player has to deal with. I too can only make so many shots on low bandits before I run out of E and get jumped by another bandit that just got to the fight with fuel, ammo and plenty of E. The trick is to know when to get out of the fight before you get in that situation.

Too bad you feel like your the pursecuted one and are the only one that is shot down when they can't control the situation.

Whiner
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: Dead Man Flying on December 01, 2004, 12:30:53 PM
Eh, I suppose I'd turn it on so folks could find me more easily.  I'm always happy to give away my exact position on Channel 200 if someone asks.  If it means people bring the fight to me without my having to do anything more than flip a switch, then all the better.

I can never really figure out why people would want to hunt me though.  I die just about every time I go up, so it's not like killing me is some unusual or uncommon event.

-- Todd/Leviathn
Title: Re: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: Schaden on December 01, 2004, 12:34:14 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Midnight
HTC

This is a gameplay request. Please add a new feature to AHII. Call it the Tough Guy Icon.

 


Wouldn't this be the Spit9 icon currently available?
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: streetstang on December 01, 2004, 12:38:49 PM
Do you guys ever shut the hell up?
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: GreenCloud on December 01, 2004, 02:13:22 PM
Scorpion Icon...







lolololol


I liek the idea of Tought guy icon..although..just showing your name to the emeny woudl be good for me...

have an option where you can reveal your name icon to the enmey..i would love that...

excpet..then I would have to chase even more of you weenies around
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: lazs2 on December 01, 2004, 02:13:32 PM
as dmf says... I will tell anyone who asks where I am...  if it generates a fight great.    if a tough guy icon makes midnight angry enough to "risk it all" and come down from 15 k or slow down to less than 300 mph.... so much the better.... way too much to hope that he might get into a plane with some parity to have a real fight but...

lazs
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: DipStick on December 01, 2004, 02:22:29 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Midnight
Too bad you feel like your the pursecuted one

I don't feel that I am pursecuted, that I am disadvantaged or that I am a "tough guy". Feel free to drop down and turn once or twice sometime. You might like it.

Edited: To remove a cheap shot.
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: midnight Target on December 01, 2004, 02:59:36 PM
One minor change to the idea... lets have Lazs decide who gets the icon.
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: AWMac on December 01, 2004, 03:38:56 PM
(http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/avatar.php?userid=376&dateline=1098861105)


And this could be the perfect Tuff Guy Icon!













So Ghey.

:rofl
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: AWMac on December 01, 2004, 03:51:27 PM
(http://www.mi.uni-erlangen.de/pict/images/comics/billcat.gif)
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: Midnight on December 01, 2004, 04:19:35 PM
Quote
Originally posted by DipStick
I don't feel that I am pursecuted, that I am disadvantaged or that I am a "tough guy". Feel free to drop down and turn once or twice sometime. You might like it.

Edited: To remove a cheap shot.


Where do you think my K/D and K/S and K/T come from? There's not a lot of actual killing going on above 10K. I'm down low plenty of times, I just choose not to stay there any longer than I have to. The F6F-5 and A6M, your top 'Kills In' aircraft last tour, might be able to keep pace in turn fights on the deck, but the P-51D that I fly can't expect to do so.

There's a basic principal I try to maintain when getting into low fights. That is, if I can't Zoom-climb to 5K, then I'm too low and too slow and just asking to be killed. The P-51 may have good speed, but it accelerates poorly compared to most others. It rolls and turns poorly at low speeds as well.
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: eskimo2 on December 01, 2004, 04:41:35 PM
Midnight,

You do know that the “Tough Guy Icon” already exists?  Right?  There are a few of them.

This is what they look like:

 JU-87
 D3A
 B5N

These Icons:  P-51  and  LGay7  do NOT read as “Tough Guy” to most of us.

eskimo
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: Midnight on December 01, 2004, 05:26:47 PM
Quote
Originally posted by eskimo2
Midnight,

You do know that the “Tough Guy Icon” already exists?  Right?  There are a few of them.

This is what they look like:

 JU-87
 D3A
 B5N

These Icons:  P-51  and  LGay7  do NOT read as “Tough Guy” to most of us.


Get real, Eskimo. The only times I have seen those in the MA is when flown by some newbi that isn't aware they are about to get their arse shot off.

You obviously miss the point of the request. You can't see other plane icons on the clip-board map, or if dar is down, or they are out of range, whatever. This feature (if turned on by the player) would show an icon for him on the clipboard map at all times and in all places, regardless of radar status or whatever.

Basically, If some channel 200 or BBS bigmouth wanted to put something behind their words, they could turn this icon on. Then, if some other BBS big mouth like me wanted to find them so I could go shoot them down, all I would have to do is turn on the icon for myself and, bingo! I would know exactly where that other bigmouth was. Of course then, all those other big mouths would then know exactly where I was too, so it works out just fine.

Keep the icon off, AH radar looks and works exactly as it does now. Turn it on, and the clipboard now becomes your own personal hit list and tells you where to go shopping.
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: Urchin on December 01, 2004, 05:32:34 PM
I actually kinda like that idea.  

By the way.. I killed two Spit V's in a Ju-87 a while back :).  

Of course... since both of em were after me at the same time I ran to some factory ack.. but I did actually kill one of them.  Got the proxy on the other one.  Oh, and for the record I left the ack once one of the Spits got shot down by it :p.
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: Stang on December 01, 2004, 05:36:13 PM
I kinda like the idea, but this feature would take ganging to an extreme.  The 7 or more plane horde would all jump on you, then the guy who got the lucky joust would be like, "Haha! Got ya! You suck!"  

It would probably create more running from 1 on 1's too.
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: RedTop on December 01, 2004, 05:41:17 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Krusty
That's a feature of Fighter Ace (MS flight sim) -- you get a "*" in front of your name when you hit ace. It keeps track of kills in your  name. But then in FA I think  you see the player's name anyways. It's not a very good idea in practice.


Talk about getting hunted. :lol I had a TON of those onetime. something like 10 I think it was......and OMG I couldn't go anywhere but what a HORDE wasnt after me. It was halarious watching 5 , 6 , 7 , 8 , of em at a time watch you from BELOW and just follow you waiting for you to land. Ahh the memories.:lol
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: eskimo2 on December 01, 2004, 06:10:16 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Urchin
I actually kinda like that idea.  

By the way.. I killed two Spit V's in a Ju-87 a while back :).  

Of course... since both of em were after me at the same time I ran to some factory ack.. but I did actually kill one of them.  Got the proxy on the other one.  Oh, and for the record I left the ack once one of the Spits got shot down by it :p.


Now that's talkin the talk, walkin the walk, and wearin the tough guy JU-87 icon!

Best I've ever done is kill a P-38 in one.  It took 3 or 4 minutes of round and round.  I was lucky that he didn't really know what he was doing or what a JU87 could and couln't do.

Then again, I have been shot down by a B5N.

eskimo
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: eskimo2 on December 01, 2004, 06:17:27 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Midnight
Get real, Eskimo. The only times I have seen those in the MA is when flown by some newbi that isn't aware they are about to get their arse shot off.

You obviously miss the point of the request. You can't see other plane icons on the clip-board map, or if dar is down, or they are out of range, whatever. This feature (if turned on by the player) would show an icon for him on the clipboard map at all times and in all places, regardless of radar status or whatever.

Basically, If some channel 200 or BBS bigmouth wanted to put something behind their words, they could turn this icon on. Then, if some other BBS big mouth like me wanted to find them so I could go shoot them down, all I would have to do is turn on the icon for myself and, bingo! I would know exactly where that other bigmouth was. Of course then, all those other big mouths would then know exactly where I was too, so it works out just fine.

Keep the icon off, AH radar looks and works exactly as it does now. Turn it on, and the clipboard now becomes your own personal hit list and tells you where to go shopping.


The point is, if you’ve got something to prove, try a different plane.  Fly the 109E, A6M2, Spit I, Hurri I or 202 if you want more of a challenge or want to humiliate someone.

eskimo
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: SlapShot on December 01, 2004, 07:13:06 PM
Quote
Originally posted by AWMac
(http://www.mi.uni-erlangen.de/pict/images/comics/billcat.gif)


It makes a better tough guy avatar ...

(http://24.151.4.182:82/images/billcat.jpg)
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 01, 2004, 07:27:10 PM
How about a little rainbow icon instead for the timid, limp wrists pilots?




ack-ack
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: DipStick on December 01, 2004, 07:41:31 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Stang
I kinda like the idea, but this feature would take ganging to an extreme.  The 7 or more plane horde would all jump on you, then the guy who got the lucky joust would be like, "Haha! Got ya! You suck!"

And this differs from the normal sortie how? :)
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: -MZ- on December 01, 2004, 08:01:35 PM
Quote
Originally posted by ygsmilo

I only engage when I have:  numbers, alt, and speed?
 


Am I the only old AW guy laughing at the irony of this being posted by someone from 13th TAS?
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: nopoop on December 01, 2004, 08:01:57 PM
Quote
Originally posted by lasersailor184
Umm, I engage when i'm at a disadvantage, often diving into a pack of 10 or more enemies.  Can I have a tough guy icon?


Yes
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: ygsmilo on December 01, 2004, 08:28:46 PM
Quote
Originally posted by -MZ-
Am I the only old AW guy laughing at the irony of this being posted by someone from 13th TAS?



Never did the AW thing, I heard it was where the "unwashed and longeared" came from ( Bill the Cat pic brought out the Bloom County in me )

Best advice I ever got on flying a Flight Sim was from Drex,

He said the only way to get good is to die alot.

SO I MUST BE REAL GOOD !!
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: Shane on December 01, 2004, 09:02:21 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Ack-Ack
How about a little rainbow icon instead for the timid, limp wrists pilots?
ack-ack


no, instead of a big throbbing purple icon, they'd get small blue ones.

:aok
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: Spongebob on December 01, 2004, 10:18:16 PM
I like this idea.

I'll turn mine on. You want to be the best you got to beat the best...

Plus, finding a fight on some of those big maps is downright impossible some days and this will fix that.

Reminds me of when Val Kilmer said "I'm yer huckleberry".

BluMeeni
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: Simaril on December 02, 2004, 05:41:55 AM
Quote
Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
I would also ove to see a "jackazz" icon to the same effect except that it would kick on once 20 or more people in the arena type ".jackazz "trashtalkingbigmouthsname here".  Essentially, if you want to anounce to all on chan 1 or 200 what a complete jackazz you are they all get the chance to let you share your location as well as your potty mouth.


I think this is a great idea. There are SO many times when two ch200 yappers are teh only ones in the arena who dont realize what jerks they're being, and to be able to slap 'em down with that jackazz icon would be both community justice in action and GREAT fun.

And who knows, just getting the message that they've received the jackazz icon might shut them up.....














Then again, probably not.   ;)
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: lazs2 on December 02, 2004, 08:20:43 AM
face it midnight... the pee 51 icon just screams out "sissie" to most people in the arena....  

the best it can achive is..... "anal computer geek pretending to be a fighter pilot so that he can have the safety in speed and numbers that being in an anal squad and flying a timid plane gives him"  

or.... "I am a new guy that read that the pee 51 was the bestest fighter plane of all time and now I will go down into that fight and get on someones butt until I kill them"

lazs
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: SirLoin on December 02, 2004, 08:26:24 AM
I say we have an icon we can enable that always shows where the heck lazs is...in 4 years in AH  I've seen him once.
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: Zanth on December 02, 2004, 08:27:12 AM
Just have all Channel 200 tuned show up in an icon color that radar always shows.  Easy for Hitech to implement.
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: nopoop on December 02, 2004, 08:54:13 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Zanth
Just have all Channel 200 tuned show up in an icon color that radar always shows.  Easy for Hitech to implement.


EXCELLANT IDEA !!! That would be too much fun.

Your too high Sirloin, come to think of it, I don't remember seeing you on line either.

Two ship passing in the night.
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: lazs2 on December 02, 2004, 08:55:47 AM
sirloin... that would tend to indicate that we don't fly the same way or in the same fights or at the same altitude.

I don't recall seeing you either.   but.... I have just lately started again after about 5 months off...  

lazs
Title: Tough Guy Icon
Post by: AWMac on December 02, 2004, 09:18:10 AM
(http://24.151.4.182:82/images/billcat.jpg)


This is the new Tuff Guy Icon!!!!


:D


Thank you Slappy for bestowing this Honor upon me.  

:aok

:rofl