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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: SirLoin on December 02, 2004, 01:00:43 PM
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Don't know why but it wont run...6 Cd's..Il2,FB(2 discs),AEP, and PF(2 discs)...All installed and updated..It don't run!("Please insert the correct disc")..ok..Ya got me..I tried em all.
ubisoft wont even let me log on BBS and ask for help..I can't even register a new unporked name as it only allows 1 user per email...and it wont resend my old player name or password!
3 hours later after trying everyting to get this this running...I finally found the fix.
a pair of green handled sheet metal snips.
Getting something to work outta that box shouldn't be a hassle...I think that's it for me with boxed sims.
:mad:
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Worked fine for me out of the box.
Don't know why you just didn't ask here, you must know there are people here with it.
-SW
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Are you using a CDRW drive as your primary CD drive? If so the copy protection hate those and I found a work around when I had a similar situation.
When I was installing the games I would have to hold down the left Shift key while inserting the next CD into the drive. Also there is a .dll file that may not have installed properly into the game directory.
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Boo f'in hoo. Run AH2 and have to dumb it down to 1024, all sliders to performance, and still get lag on cable when it was glass 3 years ago on a machine 1/10th that plays HL2 this afternoon.
BTW, Il2-FB-PF runs super sweet on my machine. Did you take the "where I would like to live, and put adware on my computer" test lately?
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Well their copyright protection just screwed Ubisoft of ever getting another red dime from this person.
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NoCD cracks, why anyone wouldn't use one is beyond me.
-SW
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Originally posted by SirLoin
Don't know why but it wont run...6 Cd's..Il2,FB(2 discs),AEP, and PF(2 discs)...All installed and updated..It don't run!("Please insert the correct disc")..ok..Ya got me..I tried em all.
ubisoft wont even let me log on BBS and ask for help..I can't even register a new unporked name as it only allows 1 user per email...and it wont resend my old player name or password!
3 hours later after trying everyting to get this this running...I finally found the fix.
a pair of green handled sheet metal snips.
Getting something to work outta that box shouldn't be a hassle...I think that's it for me with boxed sims.
:mad:
Buy more computer....
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Been toying with Il2 for years...Yesterday I had many pleasurable flights with some ex EAW buddies flyin in various squads in IL2.
My main beef is why the heck do I have to install 6 discs(and patches??)...Give me a blikin 1click link with a no CD crack included(like AH2)..No hassles...I can register proof of purchase once..Give me a CD key like in KALI.
U hassle me u get no business from me and I bad mouth you elsewhere.
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
NoCD cracks, why anyone wouldn't use one is beyond me.
-SW
is there one out for PF?
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i had same problem, fresh install on PF.
A no CD patch fixes it
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IL2 was a game...
then...
FB was new game
AEP was an addon
PF is an addon
All these were released over 4 years not all at 1 time.
All you needed to do was buy the FB gold pack (FB +PF) install it then install PF.
The current Patch is 3.01 and then there is a beta patch 3.02bm (but everyone seems to have dl'd it so you will most likely need it to play on most online servers).
BM stands for:
B = Beta
M = Merged (FB +AEP + PF)
Then there is a new exe.
All you need to do is dl a modified RTS (No CD) and use the old exe. Currently there isn't a 'no-cd' hack for the new exe.
IL2 is 4 year old game, you only need to install all those 'cds' if you just bought the game.
If thats the case don't blame the rest of the world. Over 4 years how many updates has AH had?
You hassled yourself...
I doubt they will miss your buisness...
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is there one out for PF?
Yes but you need to use the old exe.
There isn't one out (at least that I have found) for the new_exe.
PF will run off either exe.
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Sirloin, they have 6 CDs because that's how much content there is. Half-Life2 has 5 CDs, what do you expect? A hard drive with the game preloaded in the box?
Pongo - Yes, but not for the new exe if you are using it (I'm not, it's broke).
You can go to Gamecopyworld and choose search for Pacific Fighters.. or wait till I get home and I can e-mail it to you.
-SW
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Far Cry has 5 cds too...
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Originally posted by Wotan
IL2 was a game...
then...
FB was new game
AEP was an addon
PF is an addon
All these were released over 4 years not all at 1 time.
All you needed to do was buy the FB gold pack (FB +PF) install it then install PF.
The current Patch is 3.01 and then there is a beta patch 3.02bm (but everyone seems to have dl'd it so you will most likely need it to play on most online servers).
BM stands for:
B = Beta
M = Merged (FB +AEP + PF)
Then there is a new exe.
All you need to do is dl a modified RTS (No CD) and use the old exe. Currently there isn't a 'no-cd' hack for the new exe.
IL2 is 4 year old game, you only need to install all those 'cds' if you just bought the game.
If thats the case don't blame the rest of the world. Over 4 years how many updates has AH had?
You hassled yourself...
I doubt they will miss your buisness...
They will miss every dollar,I can guarantee you that...I aint payin for 1 more "expansion pack" ever again...It's just a never ending stack of CD's you'll eventually have to try and re-install...Why?
1 click full update link for registered pilots...Is that too much to ask for customer service?
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It all works very fine for me and i have big fun lately in the awesome new maps
Up to 64 players can now play together i have seen up to 128
It's simply beautifull
:cool: :aok
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What a bunch of whiners, 6 CD's big deal. My FS9 directory is over 14gb of data from 7 CD's, 3 DVD's and gb's of downloads. Try rebuilding that.
Maybe some of you are better suited to consoles.
...-Gixer
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/davest/FS2004/Virtual_Polar_FO.jpg)
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Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
It all works very fine for me and i have big fun lately in the awesome new maps
Up to 64 players can now play together i have seen up to 128
It's simply beautifull
:cool: :aok
Yeah..I was feeling the bliss yesterday at IL2 as well..Hope you have better luck if you have to reinstall.
What the heck is a new_exe?..and why should I have to try and search for it(didn't see it on ubisoft site..why?) for it to play a paid up game?
Bloody hell!!!..1 click update for my sims or no thanks.
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You must be lazy or something, does someone else feed you?
Patch 3.01m (http://magnum-pc.netfirms.com/PF/PF_patch301m.exe)
3.02b common (http://magnum-pc.netfirms.com/PF/PF_patch302b_common.exe)
3.02bm (http://magnum-pc.netfirms.com/PF/PF_patch302bm.exe)
Install in that order.
I'm not going to give you the link to the new exe, I fear you may electrocute yourself from tears on your keyboard.
-SW
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"What the heck is a new_exe?..and why should I have to try and search for it(didn't see it on ubisoft site..why?) for it to play a paid up game?
Bloody hell!!!..1 click update for my sims or no thanks."
Like I said, consoles.
...-Gixer
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I don't think you get it, I told you where to get a NoCD crack. No, either go get it and play the game... or stop your *****ing.
-SW
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You need to DL PF patch 3.01m_new.exe on top of 3.01m if you want to use it.
But in your case if you can't launch the game via the CD then you can't use it any way. I don't use it because I have a modified rts and use HK.exe
So why bother with it? Just use the old exe and the no cd rts.
Thousands of other people (even a few French Canadians) can figure it out what's your problem? :p
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Are you inserting the CDs upside down? :confused:
:rofl
Still have the boxes........................ .that the puter came in?
:rofl
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Some people didn't install the common patch, but did install 3.02bm - and surprisingly(notsomuch) the game didn't work.
You sure you installed the common patch?
-SW
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Originally posted by SirLoin
don't think you get it(stop)
installed those patches and it didn't word(stop)
uninstalled and reinstalled and patched(stop)
I hope I didn't cornfuse you(stop)
What didn't work?
I will run it down for you again:
Do you have FB/AEP/PF installed?
If sp you should be at version 3.0 then...
You will have to get the no cd rts (back up the rts in your FB folder goto the gameworld link SW provide and search:
Pacific fighters.
Download the rts and place it in your FB folder. (all you need is the rts form the rar file, the gameworld rar has other stuff in it, just extract the rts file to your fb folder)
Then download the 3 patches SW linked above.
If you can't do that then something is wrong with you no the game.
For reference here is what you need
1. Forgotten battles
2. Aces Expansion Pack
3. Pacific Fighters
You don't need the original IL2
Then get the no cd rts and see if the game launches
Then do the 3 patches.
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Not to mention it's 5 CDs, not 6.
FB = 2
AEP = 1
PF = 2
Wonder if he was trying to force install it into the original Il2 game's directory.
Oh well, I saw his post before he deleted it - and if he really destroyed his CDs.....
-SW
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Wonder if he was trying to force install it into the original Il2 game's directory.
Thats what I thought
But then if he didn't direct the common exe to his FB folder it won't work either...
But I can't figure out what the problem is.
Maybe a link to that french forum will get his head straight.
I need a little something to get mine straight after this thread...
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Yes I did Wolfe..Started install with IL2..then FB,AEP and PF...It seemed simple enough..done it before no probs.
Never mind..It's shrapnel now...
No regrets is all I have to say.
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Well, in this case I guess two wrongs do make a right - or something.
-SW
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You didn't need the original Il2 anymore. FB is its own game.
All you needed to do was install FB, then AEP then PF...
Get the no cd rts put it in your FB folder
Download the three patches SW linked
Make sure you direct the 3.02 'common' patch to your FB folder and thats it...
User error causes you to destroy the CDs?
I hope you don't have a pet or children...
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To Be Honest - IL2 FB-AEP-PF has the best eye candy in the world but you have to be a potato peeling rocket scientist to get the potato peeling thing to run well. I tried with IL2 FB and never could get it running well, bought PF because those are the planes I really want to fly and carrier stuff. Runs like crap. My Machine...
Intel p4 2.53, ASUS P4S533E, 512 Ram ( Yeah I have to get to a Gig ), ATI 9700 Pro.
Honestly I'd rather spend my time shooting Mother Fkers down then configuring and reinstalling drivers etc. So I put Ubi BS down and log into always successful AH!!
Plust I hate the potato peeling Ubisoft, Microsoft business model. A new potato peeling game every few months. Keep spending, keep installing, keep breaking my balls. This version not compatable with that version on and on Fk Ubi Soft!!! Too much BS for a stupid computer game, especially when there is AH!
It definately gave me some new respect for the way HTC is doing things.
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So you can't have IL2 and IL2 Forgotton Battles installed at same time?
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Originally posted by SirLoin
Yes I did Wolfe..Started install with IL2..then FB,AEP and PF...It seemed simple enough..done it before no probs.
Never mind..It's shrapnel now...
No regrets is all I have to say.
that "shrapnel" could have got you a couple of months of AH if you'd put it up on Ebay ....
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You can have them installed at the same time, but not in the same directory. You wouldn't even have had to uninstall Il2 in the first place. FB includes all of Il2 anyway, and then adds more stuff.
-SW
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Originally posted by mars01
To Be Honest - IL2 FB-AEP-PF has the best eye candy in the world but you have to be a potato peeling rocket scientist to get the potato peeling thing to run well. I tried with IL2 FB and never could get it running well, bought PF because those are the planes I really want to fly and carrier stuff. Runs like crap. My Machine...
Intel p4 2.53, ASUS P4S533E, 512 Ram ( Yeah I have to get to a Gig ), ATI 9700 Pro.
Honestly I'd rather spend my time shooting Mother Fkers down then configuring and reinstalling drivers etc. So I put Ubi BS down and log into always successful AH!!
Plust I hate the potato peeling Ubisoft, Microsoft business model. A new potato peeling game every few months. Keep spending, keep installing, keep breaking my balls. This version not compatable with that version on and on Fk Ubi Soft!!! Too much BS for a stupid computer game, especially when there is AH!
It definately gave me some new respect for the way HTC is doing things.
don't think its the machine, must be the operator .. then again you were a skerry supporter last Nov :)
runs fine on my box:
AMD 2600XP (2.1 ghz)
1 gig of 266 ram
9800 ATI
as for the $$$
I have spent much more on AH at $30 and $15 a month pop than I have on the IL2 box sims series (3 x $40)
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Originally posted by Eagler
don't think its the machine, must be the operator .. then again you were a skerry supporter last Nov :)
:rofl :aok
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Originally posted by Eagler
that "shrapnel" could have got you a couple of months of AH if you'd put it up on Ebay ....
I prepay AH 6 months in advance...If I ever have to uninstall/reinstall..It's only 1 click away.
And loggin onto AH BBS to get help is never a problem..unlike Ubisoft.
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Can't wait when some got it to work but than get shot online 100x.
Just because they have to learn to fly again.
I'm glad i can enjoy both worlds.
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Originally posted by SirLoin:
Well their copyright protection just screwed Ubisoft of ever getting another red dime from this person.
Damn! And I thought those over at Il-2 were going to get another easy kill.
:lol
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don't think its the machine, must be the operator .. then again you were a skerry supporter last Nov
Of course it's the operator and the set up, the same system runs it fine for others so somethings out of whack, but I would rather fly in AH then fk around with the BS from Ubi Soft just to do it all over again.
Although your respons is completely what I expect from a Bush lover! :) Useless and of no help. :) Keep the Blinders on!:aok lolh
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Originally posted by Wotan
Yes but you need to use the old exe.
There isn't one out (at least that I have found) for the new_exe.
PF will run off either exe.
hmmm. Ill try that thanks.
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Originally posted by mars01
Honestly I'd rather spend my time shooting Mother Fkers down then configuring and reinstalling drivers etc. So I put Ubi BS down and log into always successful AH!!
Plust I hate the potato peeling Ubisoft, Microsoft business model. A new potato peeling game every few months. Keep spending, keep installing, keep breaking my balls. This version not compatable with that version on and on Fk Ubi Soft!!! Too much BS for a stupid computer game, especially when there is AH!
It definately gave me some new respect for the way HTC is doing things.
My point exactly.
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"It definately gave me some new respect for the way HTC is doing things. "
Yeah how is pizza these days?
:lol
...-Gixer
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2.0 Ghz, 512 DDR Ram, 64mb GF4 MX, Omega drivers
I get GREAT performance, its all about defragging, the right drivers, and toying with the options.
I can work it on High prety well, can't do perfect because of the card, but other than that, splendid.
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Originally posted by SirLoin
My point exactly.
No your point is that you can't even figure out how to get it off the cd correctly so can play.
Forget about tweaking the game you will just hurt yourself.
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Originally posted by Wotan
No your point is that you can't even figure out how to get it off the cd correctly so can play.
Forget about tweaking the game you will just hurt yourself.
I guess u missed the part about having played Il2 for years...
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Originally posted by SirLoin
So you can't have IL2 and IL2 Forgotton Battles installed at same time?
Yes in 2 different directory.
Ie :
c:\IL2 : il2 alone with patches
c:\FB : FB + AEP + PF + PF patches. (no need to patch FB and EAP)
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Where can I get the no CD crack?
Thnx.
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I've been toying around with IL2-FB-AEP and whipped up 4 missions based on the book "Missions Remembered" by the Middle Tennessee WW2 Fighter Pilots Association. I've got a couple more that I want to build based on chapters in the book. Most of them are pretty simple, depending on how well you can kill a "veteran" 109G2 while flying a P-51B, P-40, or P-47.
My only gripe is that the numberpad view system isn't identical to the one used in AH2. Flight models seem kind of simple, too. I guess that makes two gripes.
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Originally posted by SirLoin
Where can I get the no CD crack?
Thnx.
check this http://www.gamecopyworld.com/
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Yeah how is pizza these days?
Don't know, haven't seen it since AHII, thank God!!!!!
Whats your point?:)
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A new Eastern Front map was announced today for FB/AEP/PF
Kurland!!!
numberpad view system
what?
I use trackIR, before that a Hat switch and min joy for mouse view...
Why would anyone use the numberpad?
Flight models seem kind of simple, too
Compared to what? AH and IL2 are very similiar. The P51 in AH is just as easy mode as the p51 in FB.
Are you sure you have the right settings checked?
Fighting against AI even set at expert won't in any way show off the FM of the game. You should get online where its a completely different game. Most off line heros think they got it figured out only to get spanked 100s of times online until they get it worked out.
The combat routines for AI is the same for all aircraft in FB. It uses a simplified universal formula for all planes.
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Hey Woton,
Fighting against AI even set at expert won't in any way show off the FM of the game.
Are you saying the IL2 flight model is different between online and offline? It's obvious that the AI is in no way going to be comparable to a real person, but if the FM changes thats BS.
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The human FM is the same.. unless you go to a server that has certain difficulty options disabled (stalls, or torque, etc).
-SW
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Originally posted by mars01
Hey Woton,
Are you saying the IL2 flight model is different between online and offline? It's obvious that the AI is in no way going to be comparable to a real person, but if the FM changes thats BS.
No I am saying the human FM is the same on or offline but the AI routines aren't complex enough (just like any other game that has AI) or detailed enough across the planeset to take advantage of each aircrafts strength. . As such AI doesn't fly to the strength of the aircraft but does predictable scripted manuevers.
An offline 'ace' doesn't translate into an online 'ace'.
AI will turn fight otd in a Jug against a 109, or 190s will try to turn wiith la7s...
AI does very predictable stuff. On the hardest settings it will try like hell to ho you on the merge. It has great gunnery so it will hit you unless you manuever. To defeat it you learn real quick what to do and not to do. After fighting them a few times, no matter what the plane. you can recognize their patterns and easily beat them even at the hardest setting.
Fighting human players, especially ones that half-way know what they are doing is completely different.
So AI will never to as good or unpredictable as a human player.
I will say this though. AI at the hardest setting in FB is a lot harder and more fun to fight then 90% of the bore and zzz'rs in AH but it still can't reach the level of a half-way 'skilled' human player.
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" Flight models seem kind of simple, too. I guess that makes two gripes."
Ah the comparisson of simple flight models.
All combat sims have simple flight models otherwise they would lose most of their customers. Some are just a little better then others in the effects department but overall they are all pretty simple. Pretty much just point and fly around the sky which is why I always feel like it's Quake with planes. It's the little things, like dive bombins lances, the engines never overheat (well AH anyway), takeoffs and landings are simple beyone belief, theres never any wind, evironmental effects or weather to worry about. And with practice you can land a 262, goon or a buff on a carrier deck and even better takeoff again.
The only sim that does a little better then "simple" with flight modeling is some of the professional addons for MSFS and with it's environment and weather makes it pretty good. But even then go from that to trying to fly a real 737,747 simulator and you won't have a show of even lining up for the runway let alone landing it. And that's with an instructor on the throttles and controlling everything else.
...-Gixer
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Oh, and as for "numberpad view system isn't identical to the one used in AH2"
My god those poor guys with Track IR don't know what they are missing compared to a good numberpad view system.
Bit 90's don't you think? :)
...-Gixer
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TrackIR - yeah, that's what I need. Another piece of flightsim equipment on my desk. ;)
Numpad view rules!
edit: Oh, and yeah, I have yet to stall a P-38 in IL:2, but I do it quite regularly in AH, and always at the worst time.
IL2 online? Isn't that why I signed up for AH2? IL2 is my offline trainer for AH2! :p
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Originally posted by Gixer
" Flight models seem kind of simple, too. I guess that makes two gripes."
And with practice you can land a 262, goon or a buff on a carrier deck and even better takeoff again.
...-Gixer
Try that in PF. :lol
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Originally posted by gofaster
TrackIR - yeah, that's what I need. Another piece of flightsim equipment on my desk. ;)
Numpad view rules!
edit: Oh, and yeah, I have yet to stall a P-38 in IL:2, but I do it quite regularly in AH, and always at the worst time.
IL2 online? Isn't that why I signed up for AH2? IL2 is my offline trainer for AH2! :p
Actually it sits on top of your monitor.
Numpad is old hat, experience Track IR and it's a total transformation to any flightsim experience especially one involving ACM.
...-Gixer
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Gool points Gixer. In Il-2, there are optional wind effects, rain, snow, etc. With wind on, it's quite testy trying to take off with torque envolved. Engines will overheat. You have cowl flaps to help keep your engine cooled. I do like the P-47 in Il-2 though. It will outdive anything and not start into mild compression till about 850 kph. That's another thing, all instrumentation and stats are in metric and that took a while to sink in after flying AH for so long. All in all Il-2 is more realistic than AH(IMO).
;)