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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Nash on December 02, 2004, 08:56:59 PM
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The recent post of Lazs' where he, after expressing his "disappointment" in not seeing any of us liberals start bawling after the election, so instead turns to flipping the radio dial in search of self flagellation-type pron, got me thinking...
.... about the mind of the modern Republican. Heh....
Because if you take a sampling of this BBS for say, a week, you'll find that Nilsen doesn't make angry posts about guns. That Dude doesn't make angry posts about abortion. That Capt apathy doesn't make angry posts about God. That SOB doesn't make angry posts about governmental monitoring of his downloads.
In fact, where IS the outrage of the left?
Sure... once the outrage of the Right trots its self-righteous arse into the public forum by way of posts titled "Indefensible!", a few of us will chuck the punch. But, why is it that we never start this stuff?
It's probably worth noting:
White House....... check.
Senate................ check.
Congress............. check.
Supreme Court.... check.
All Republican controlled. This should be fricking party time. Not time to dial into self loathing on the radio. Not time to seek out ever more marginalized hot button issues with which to work oneself into a volcanic rage or smug BBS group therapy.
Then I was reminded of an article I read a few weeks ago. It just rang true to me. Not all of it, and not exactly, but generally... It felt... familiar:
The problem not only with fundamentalist Christians but with Republicans in general is not that they act on blind faith, without thinking.The problem is that they are incorrigible doubters with an insatiable appetite for Evidence. What they get off on is not believing, but in having their beliefs tested. That's why their conversations and their media are so completely dominated by implacable bogeymen: marrying gays, liberals, the ACLU, Sean Penn, Europeans and so on. Their faith both in God and their political convictions is too weak to survive without an unceasing string of real and imaginary confrontations with those people - and for those confrontations, they are constantly assembling evidence and facts to make their case.
But here's the twist. They are not looking for facts with which to defeat their opponents. They are looking for facts that ensure them an ever-expanding roster of opponents.
They can be correct facts, incorrect facts, irrelevant facts - it doesn't matter. The point is not to win the argument, the point is to make sure the argument never stops. Permanent war isn't a policy imposed from above; it's an emotional imperative that rises from the bottom. In a way, it actually helps if the fact is dubious or untrue because that guarantees an argument. You're arguing the particulars, where you're right, while they're arguing the underlying generalities, where they are.
Once you grasp this fact, you're a long way towards understanding what the Hannitys and Limbaughs figured out long ago: These people will swallow anything you feed them, so long as it leaves them with a demon to wrestle with in their dreams.
Which brings me to Left Behind. Who gets left behind? Nobody, that's who. How could they leave us behind? They couldn't live without us. Even their most intimate family meals would seem lonely if we were missing. - Matt Taibbi
Mmmkay, go.
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THIS POST IS OUTRAGIOUS!
PS
as a republican I feel I was mostly fair to the liberals and will in fact call a spaid a spaid when it is needed :cool:
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I hate you, and if those deviously clever Canuckian border guards ever foul up and let me through, I will hunt you down and beat you to death with a Brook Trout. No, make that a Rainbow Trout, you GODLESSHEATHENCANUCKIANLIBERA LWEENIEBLUBBEREATINGAMERIHATE RHOSERPOUTINEEATERIGLOODWELLE RPOOPHEADCRAPpotatoPOOPASSTID DLYWINKSMARTHASTEWARTCHIMPANZ EEsweetheartBAGCRAPMANGLERDUM BFACE!!!!!!!!11 :mad:
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I never have rubbed the election results in anyone's face.
I did notice the same thing Laz mentioned in his post. I was listening to Micheal Savage on 1010 am recently......only it was not Savage.
The station changed to Air America and this Randy Rhodes ( SP) chick was on. This was only about a week ago and she was complaining that "we did not vote for this President, America did not vote for this President"
I admit I was laughing at the stupidity. I later found that Savage had moved a few spots up the dial.
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Originally posted by SOB
I hate you, and if those deviously clever Canuckian border guards ever foul up and let me through, I will hunt you down and beat you to death with a Brook Trout. No, make that a Rainbow Trout, you GODLESSHEATHENCANUCKIANLIBERA LWEENIEBLUBBEREATINGAMERIHATE RHOSERPOUTINEEATERIGLOODWELLE RPOOPHEADCRAPpotatoPOOPASSTID DLYWINKSMARTHASTEWARTCHIMPANZ EEsweetheartBAGCRAPMANGLERDUM BFACE!!!!!!!!11 :mad:
I have never loved SOB more than now.
Well okay, there was once in Las Vegas. But he never called me afterwards.
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I think you are not being objective here nash... if you look at all the vitrihol about Bush before the election from the likes of rpm and even yourself it was pure hate.... look at the violence in "demonstrations" and the race... it was pretty much all lefty stuff. Look at the hate directed at the christian faith here... look at the hate directed at the soldiers and the calling them murderers...
As for sean penn say... he was not a target at all until his malevolent vitrihol made him a target.... look at the michelle moore smear peiece and how it was recieved? pure hate and the acolades it got were from the left and not based on anything except that it fed their hate....the truth was not in the least important... in fact... not one of the left including you did anything but defend reven the most obvious and outlandish lies in it...
nope pard.... you are one of the rioters screaming in the light of bonfire while throwing rocks and asking why the conservatives are so mean. you are cheering on the guys turning over cars while asking for a stop to people saying mean things about you..
and... you live in a city and wear funny shoes and can't speak Californian.
lazs
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Originally posted by Nash
In fact, where IS the outrage of the left?
I think they're embarrased to show their faces what with the sky not having fallen and all.
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Originally posted by AKIron
I think they're embarrased to show their faces what with the sky not having fallen and all.
I, like many on the left, are both dissapointed and relieved.
On one hand, apparently we lost, some can accept that as fact, however, some aren't.
http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/ohblackwellltr12204.pdf
On the other hand, there are those of us who feel a sense of relief now that the right now has total control of our government. Why is this? It's because the right can't blame the left for the next four years, two if for some reason we gain a majority again in either house, not likely, IMO.
I'm more of the latter in these two thoughts since I'm getting too old to be a hand wringer and have seen much, much worse things in my life than another four years of a Bush administration.
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Originally posted by lazs2
I think you are not being objective here nash... if you look at all the vitrihol about Bush before the election from the likes of rpm and even yourself it was pure hate.... look at the violence in "demonstrations" and the race... it was pretty much all lefty stuff. Look at the hate directed at the christian faith here... look at the hate directed at the soldiers and the calling them murderers...
lazs
Please Laz, do a forum search and show me where I have called soldiers murderers.
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Originally posted by SOB
I hate you, and if those deviously clever Canuckian border guards ever foul up and let me through, I will hunt you down and beat you to death with a Brook Trout. No, make that a Rainbow Trout, you GODLESSHEATHENCANUCKIANLIBERA LWEENIEBLUBBEREATINGAMERIHATE RHOSERPOUTINEEATERIGLOODWELLE RPOOPHEADCRAPpotatoPOOPASSTID DLYWINKSMARTHASTEWARTCHIMPANZ EEsweetheartBAGCRAPMANGLERDUM BFACE!!!!!!!!11 :mad:
Might I suggest you stop trying to enter Canada with said fish hanging out of your pants.
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You're so full of mecrab Nash.
-SW
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rpm... i did not say that you did.... I said that that before the election you were full of vitrihol and hate for Bush.... sheesh... every post of yours, sometimes several a day, was about how evil Bush was..
lazs
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Originally posted by SOB
I hate you, and if those deviously clever Canuckian border guards ever foul up and let me through, I will hunt you down and beat you to death with a Brook Trout. No, make that a Rainbow Trout, you GODLESSHEATHENCANUCKIANLIBERA LWEENIEBLUBBEREATINGAMERIHATE RHOSERPOUTINEEATERIGLOODWELLE RPOOPHEADCRAPpotatoPOOPASSTID DLYWINKSMARTHASTEWARTCHIMPANZ EEsweetheartBAGCRAPMANGLERDUM BFACE!!!!!!!!11 :mad:
Yes much better to use the Rainbow Trout then the wee little "Brookie". The Rainbow is a much hardier fish and certainly more plentiful. We are trying to replenish our stocks of the lovely Brookies through fish and watre management. Your support of these efforts will ensure a healthy future for the Brook Trouts and allow future generations of Canadians and Americans to enjoy a peaceful day of "casting".
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Well Laz, seeing that the election is over and nothing can be done about it, what's the point? Yeah, Bush is still a moron but he won the election. When he screws the pooch I will let you know it.
Untill something more important comes along, I posted THIS (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=136929) for you to defend his high holiness' actions. You may not have to wait long, NBC (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6621523/) has uncovered mismanagement and incompetence in the handling of Iraq's oil money by Bush's administration.
In a series of reports on U.S. management of the oil money, auditors working for the United Nation's Iraq Advisory and Monitoring Board and the Inspector General of the Coalition Provisional Authority found:
*Insufficient controls
*Missing records
*Two sets of books at Iraq's Finance Ministry, which did not match
In one example of insufficient controls, the United States stored hundreds of millions of oil dollars in a vault in a Baghdad palace. Government auditors found that the key to the vault was kept “unsecured” — in a U.S. official’s backpack.
Iraq’s U.S. administrator, Paul Bremer, pledged last year to hire a certified public accounting firm to ensure proper controls. But the United States gave the contract not to an accounting firm but to a tiny consulting company, Northstar — which NBC News found is headquartered at a private home near San Diego.
"They violated the rules. They picked a contractor who didn’t meet their requirements," says Paul Light, a government contracting expert and professor at New York University.
Northstar’s president says the Pentagon knew Northstar was not a certified public accounting firm and that four experienced employees went to Iraq and did a good job. However, one audit notes that a single Northstar employee maintained spreadsheets tracking billions of dollars.
Bremer would not comment. His aides say Iraq is a war zone and their top priority was getting money quickly where it was needed, even if the accounting wasn't perfect.
But NBC News has learned that a draft government audit faults the United States for “inadequate stewardship” of up to $8.8 billion in oil money, handed over to Iraq’s ministries but never fully accounted for.
I mean really, who cares if we waste/lose/steal Iraq's oil money. We can just get Congress to make up the difference with US tax money.
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see what I mean nash? ya just got to wind him up a bit and feed him some NBC or dan blather.
lars! weeping toast boy! we were all so worried... I even asked people (well... liberal people) to go by your house and check your oven to make sure your weren't doing yourself and injury.... I am relieved that only your weeping toast avatar has died.
lazs
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laz, your trolls are getting weak. No comment on the articles or just no way to defend them? C'mon...gimme some swift boat vets or something.
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Hello mrlars.. thanks for your post.. 8)
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rpm... what do you want me to say? I mean NBC? one news source that says that we handed over the money to the iraqi government... It's their money... we didn't steal it. Gotta wait and see how it plays out before I get too excited by "Bush screws it all up again... details at 11"
lazs
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So who do you want for a source? Lemme guess...Faux?
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rpm... think about it man... you are about the most gullible guy on this board,,, you believed blather and moore and a bunch of other "news" sources with agendas that matched yours... your track rec ord is terrible.
you allways jump in with both feet... lets just give it a little time shall we?.
lazs
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You look so cute in your little Jr. Stalker pj's. Laz, think about it man. I'm sure NBC liberals just made up this whole scandal to boost ratings. Of course if CNN reported it, you would be crying that they just made it up, liberal bastages. ABC..well they are just a bunch of liberals that let some Canadian rant on the air...
We all know Faux and Rush Limbaugh are the only legit news sources in the country that are approved by the RNC and certified for use on this board. (oops, I forgot Drudge)
I gave you a story and a source. Work with that, not the messenger that delivered it. Who knows, you may actually find some facts that prove the story wrong. I'm sure Northstar is actually the largest certified public accounting firm in California and not a tiny unqualified outfit run out of some guy's garage.
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(http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/contamination/revenge_bogeyman.jpg)
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rpm... it seems like a non story to me. I'm not even interested at this point. Gee.... things aren't going perfectly smoothly during an occupation with daily acts of terrorism.... who'd a thunk?
let me know if anything interesting develops.
lazs
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Both "sides" on this board have their extremists. There are insulting people of every political persuasion posting here.
I will stick my neck out and say that IN MY OPINION I see more ad hominem arguments and more dodging of the question under discussion from our "liberal" posters.
And this for Nash, an op-ed piece from an everyday guy working stiff in the red state heartland that was in the KC Star today. I liked it.
Whining from losers has grown tiresome
BLAKE HURST
Sally Field was widely ridiculed some years ago for gushing in her Oscar acceptance speech that: “You like me, you really like me.”
Post-election analysis is split about the reasons President Bush won re-election. Immediate reaction focused upon exit polls that seemed to show moral values as the deciding issue; later commentary has rejected that conclusion as the result of a poorly drawn question.
I don't know why Bush won, as people voted the way they did for any number of reasons. But one thing can safely be said about the election. To paraphrase Sally, the chattering classes hate people who voted for George Bush. They really do hate us.
Novelist Jane Smiley credits the election results to “the decision of the right to exploit ignorance in the citizenry.” She goes on to remark that she is originally from Missouri, and her relatives are Bush supporters. She says they voted the way they did not because they were stupid, but because of greed and “Republican feelings of superiority.” I hope she isn't headed to Grandma's for Christmas dinner.
Lawrence O'Donnell, a Democratic activist and a writer for the “The West Wing,” believes the blue states will consider secession from the Union. Geraldine Ferraro is willing to consider same, and points out that the red states will be in trouble without our blue state betters, as we “have no talent.”
No talent? Why, I know plenty of my neighbors who can chew tobacco and eat supper at the same time. Not only that, but we can hit road signs with Bud Light cans at 50 miles an hour. Maureen Dowd helpfully points out that Bush “ran a jihad in America so he can fight one in Iraq.” Columnist Paul Krugman decided we were voting about the “fate of America as we know it.”
The only argument seems to be over whether the correct metaphor is jihad or the American Civil War. Historian Simon Schama writes, “Not since the Civil War has the fault line between America's two halves been so glaringly clear, nor the chasm between its two cultures so starkly unbridgeable.” Smiley also prefers the Civil War as a metaphor, continuing her rant by comparing Bush voters to Quantrill's raiders.
Garrison Keillor is partial to a religious explanation for the election, and would solve the problem by denying “born again” voters the franchise. Syndicated columnist Tad Bartimus, whose column appears in The Star, says: “Fundamentalist Christians have launched a jihad here at home based on their version of family values — war over negotiation, ostracism over inclusion, fear over hope, paranoia over trust.”
These folks can sure teach us yokels the meaning of tolerance, all right.
It is a sign of how things have changed that the left has moved from standing up for the little guy to calling him a stupid, bigoted, religious nut. Might be that there is a lesson there, one that would stand the Democratic Party well, were it interested in winning elections rather than proclaiming its moral and intellectual superiority.
Jihad? For goodness sake, all Bush voters want is to be left alone on religious matters. Leave the Pledge of Allegiance alone and don't mess with marriage. Overturning Roe v. Wade would just return the abortion issue to the states, where it has always belonged. If the blue states are so confident of their intellect, talent, and the strength of their arguments, then they shouldn't fear a democratic solution to a problem that would lend itself to a compromise.
Of course, they might want to think about the demographic consequences. Out here in Jesusland, we're already breeding faster, and an abortion regime demarcated along red-blue lines would soon mean that our vote margins would be even larger.
In Iraq, true jihadists are beheading fellow Muslims. Around here, all people want to do is to continue to say “under God” when we recite the Pledge of Allegiance. Those hardly seem comparable, and when people like those I've quoted accuse conservatives of some sort of religious warfare, they lose all credibility, and any chance of winning the next election.
And the Civil War metaphor is just as overwrought. We have a two-party system, one that by its nature leads to conflict, and closely divided elections. It also tends to lead to compromise, and parties that move toward the center of where they perceive the electorate to be.
It has worked pretty well; I've seen no indication that it's broken.
I'm sorry, but the response of these folks can't be taken seriously. They're dissing everything and everybody I hold dear, and all I want to do is giggle.
I think they need a job, one that involves some physical labor, and one that leaves them little time to think. Because for all their condescension about their superior intellects, their contact with reality is fleeting. Their complaints are repetitive and extreme and, worst of all, boring.
As Adam Smith said, there is much ruin in a nation. It was only an election, after all, and there will be another one in four years.
Blake Hurst is a farmer and greenhouse grower in Tarkio, Mo. To reach Midwest Voices columnists, write to the author c/o the Editorial Page, The Kansas City Star, 1729 Grand Blvd., Kansas City, MO 64108. Or send e-mail to
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Some aren't content to ridicule republicans/conservatives or talk about succession, Jesse Jackson is trying rally "insurrection". All I can say is "bring it on".
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Originally posted by Toad
BooHoo they're calling me names.
Cry about it.
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Dream on. You know those big, bad people calling me mean names doesn't bother me in the least. I save my tears for real problems.
Just thought you'd enjoy seeing how an average Joe from Northern Missouri views the tears that are falling like rain in the Kerry camp.
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Okay Toad... There are nutjobs on either side.
Tell ya what. Is it safe to call this here BBS a microcosm of... I dunno what?
Lets look at what happens here over the course of this next week - starting now. And lets see who the babies are?
Sound good?
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I won't be at my computer most of next week.
Start an "ad hominem/insult/dodge argument thread" though. You log in the bad ole conservatives and I'm sure someone will list the bad ole liberals in there for you.
I'll read it when I get back.
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Not even neccessary, and you know it.
But sure... for a goof.... lets hash it out when you get back. I'm gonna need to be reminded though.
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Congrats to Toad & Nash, you've started the most inane argument in the history of this BBS. Or at least as far back as I can remember (which is last Tuesday).
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Besides, in the election aftermath I've only seen one Democrat that had it figured out.
That was John Edwards:
"We can't be a party of elites and intellectuals. People have to believe we're on their side...People have this instinctive radar for that. They know whether you respect them. They know whether you respect their way of life."
Interesting that the Bush-voter red-stater from Tarkio, Missouri pretty much said that same thing, albeit in a lot more words, in his editorial.
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Yeah yeah yeah... those damn "elites" vs the "working man"....
Cry my a river and give me a break. Newsflash: everyone works like a dog. It may not be picking up bales of wheat or whatever, but.... Get over your sweet self. Life is a *****. Quit whining about people calling you names.
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You'll have to ask Edwards to cry you a river, I guess. He's the guy that figured out the Dems problem, not me. ;)
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Oh yeah... call me any name that makes you feel warm and fuzzy.
I assure you, being name-called doesn't even register with me anymore.
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That's exactly the thing.
I didn't call you a name.
But you're all acting like it... Comes naturally or something. Take offence to thin air why don't ya.
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"We can't be a party of elites and intellectuals."
Indeed, they should be a party of losers and morons. :confused:
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Originally posted by Nash
Quit whining about people calling you names.
No, you accused me about whining about people calling me names.
Which is not in the least true. But you knew that when you started this silliness.
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Suck it up for a sec.
You came out of the blue to post a letter by "an everyday guy working stiff in the red state heartland," in your words, who is pissed at being called a loser or whatever.
I know the leg this particular beast is standing on. It's made out of straw. Sounds freaking GREAT though.... 'Oh the lowly working class getting slapped by the man.' .... It's so ridiculous.
Way to get behind it. I'm so sure you'll go far with it. What a great cause.
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Originally posted by Nash
who is pissed at being called a loser or whatever.
:)
Didn't read it did you?
I'm sorry, but the response of these folks can't be taken seriously. They're dissing everything and everybody I hold dear, and all I want to do is giggle.
Face it Nash.. you just strike at anything anymore.
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Jeeze... Yeah I read it Toad. And I ignored the weird bits just for you. But no... that wasn't good enough, was it?
Okay... redux:
"an everyday guy working stiff in the red state heartland" - Toad.
What does this everyday whiner say? I dunno... maybe Toad can highlight something. Ah there we go:
" They're dissing everything and everybody I hold dear, and all I want to do is giggle."
Okay.... Lemme get this straight....
No! Better yet... Picture it. Some wheat hauler pig farmer cry baby 'oh woe is me' chump says: "They're dissing everything ..."
Whoah.... Back up. What was that?
"They're dissing everything ..."
It must be a result of some weird sinus ear crap due to all the blue-like jet setting that's causing me to miss this... Say it again?
"They're dissing everything... "
Okay this cry-baby piss his shorts overalls wearin' weed tugger says "They're dissing everything."
That's just... funny as hell. But - run with it dude.
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Originally posted by rpm
So who do you want for a source? Lemme guess...Faux?
I get my news from 60 Minutes, the BBC, and the NY Times. I am completely confident that I get the absolute truth whenever watch, listen, or read these fine untarnished news sources.
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I just found it odd that they whine because nobody gave them any cannon fodder. Then when I posted anything relatively close, instead of dissceting it, they whined about it. Jeez, make up your mind.
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So you are whining about them whining?
"I'd like to complain about people who hold things up by complaining about people complaining. It's about time something was done about it." Python (Monty)
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rpm that's the whole thing.
Making up their mind doesn't matter.
Thissa way, thatta way. Same diff.
They just wanna argue. To feel the outrage. To rail against... erhm... actors, or Europeans... anything really.
It just doesn't matter. Defending breathes a whole new vitality. If there is nothing to defend against, they will create something to defend against. Sean Penn (I mean, give me a break).... Or perhaps, babies in Norway. There's no end to it. Always something. Else.
I swear there's gotta be some psychological explanation for it. It's well outside the bounds of mere politics. It's.... personal. In the brain. Needs desires fears wants etc.
Me?
I realize it now. And, I've decided to stop feeding their monkey.
They want to argue? Hello... they don't give a rats arse about your facts. It turns out that they just want to argue - to argue. To win. It lights them up.
Like crack addicts to crack, I aint gonna feed them no more.
Take your monkey and go hike.
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Nash, you must have had this epiphany just in the last three days, or I guess you wouldn’t have started this thread.
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Indeed.
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Originally posted by Nash
Indeed.
Bull****. You didn't see the Democrat/Republican game before this?
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eh?
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You started off with a polarizin' US partizan thread then you step away and said this.
"rpm that's the whole thing.
Making up their mind doesn't matter.
Thissa way, thatta way. Same diff.
They just wanna argue. To feel the outrage. To rail against... erhm... actors, or Europeans... anything really."
Now I took that as an inclusive "they".
Or do you believe that this is the exclusive perview of one US political party? If so then I think you are wrong and will explain why if you verify that this is your belief.
If you don't, then I think you have known this for awhile. I think this because you strike as a relitively well informed individual and it seems obvious to me that that both parties play this game. If this is the case, than I have to wonder how you could have been ignorant of this up until a few days ago.
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Yeah - I get what yer saying; makes sense and I pretty much understand where you're coming from.
But to look at the two sides. The posts here. The media there. You would have to resort to nit picking, or explorations of...
No - I aint falling for it. Yeah Thrawn it sounds lovely. But it's bullchit.
God, abortion, Sean Penn, guns, intrusion, Baldwin, the French, immigrants.
When you give me the Dem flipside of that, we'll talk.
Screw it... It's not about playing fair like you seem to want to do now. It's just about not playing at all.
It's psycho junky addict garbage.
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I like fried hamsters!
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Originally posted by Nash
When you give me the Dem flipside of that, we'll talk.
Cool, if you want me to I can, just not tonight. ;)
Screw it... It's not about playing fair like you seem to want to do now. It's just about not playing at all.
It's psycho junky addict garbage.
You know what, that is pretty much the attitude I decided to ascribe to on Nov 3. Dem/Rep, don't really care anymore. I've actually become more involved in municple politics, better way to spend my energies.
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Good man.
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Originally posted by Nash
God, abortion, Sean Penn, guns, intrusion, Baldwin, the French, immigrants.
When you give me the Dem flipside of that, we'll talk.
I have never heard anyone from the Dem side of the spectrum speak of the christian right, right to choose, Jerry Falwell, Charlton Heston and the NRA, Rush, Rednecks, or "undocumented immigrants".
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Okay bud, punt those threads. The pissed off democrats posting about about, whatever - all those things.
Like when rpm went nuts and freaked out on Heston. Or when Gscholz famously declared "Abortion rocks!"
k?
Punt them up.
(pretend like you don't know)
See ya in a coupla years.
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Originally posted by Nash
But to look at the two sides. The posts here. The media there. You would have to resort to nit picking, or explorations of...
No - I aint falling for it. Yeah Thrawn it sounds lovely. But it's bullchit.
God, abortion, Sean Penn, guns, intrusion, Baldwin, the French, immigrants.
When you give me the Dem flipside of that, we'll talk.
Now you're changing the rules... You said, "But to look at the two sides. The posts here. The media there."
I thought we were speaking of generalities, not specific quotes of specific people. If I were to quote GSholtz does this mean that your "media there" part does not count?
Generally, the dems have been just as bad as the reps. Anger and resorting to personal insult seem to be just as prevalent on both sides. For instance in the abortion question, I have seen those who seem to group together anyone who is "pro-life" with clinic bombers. I have seen those posts who proclaim that the born again are somewhat mentally challenged.
As an agnostic who does not favor the abolishment of Roe v Wade, I can see the discriminatory bent of some posters and some media for those who are conservatives. I can also see the other side, and I see that there is room for rhetorical improvement on both ends.
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blah blah blah - over it.
Like I said, we hit back.... but, we don't seem to start it.
Why is that?
Why is it that y'all constantly do?
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Don't bother, I know why.....
(http://home.swipnet.se/~w-65512/monkey.jpg)
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So the personal insult was first started in this thread by ...... you?
You are as pure as the wind driven snow Nash.
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sweet!
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Originally posted by Nash
" They're dissing everything and everybody I hold dear, and all I want to do is giggle."
Okay this cry-baby piss his shorts overalls wearin' weed tugger says "They're dissing everything."
Twist it any way you like but anyone with a modicum of reading comprehension isn't going to see it that way.
He quotes some of the more notable liberals and there's no way one can take their statements as anything but lacking respect. Exactly the thing that Edwards advised his fellow Democrats cost them this past election.
So "dissing" is merely an accurate description of what the people he quoted actually said. You can semantically twist it around all you like but you're only stroking yourself there.
Lastly, note that the writers reaction to this "dissing" is hardly whining... it's giggling.
He's laughing at them Nash, not crying about it. There's no "crybaby" in it at all.
I'm sure that's what most readers are going to get out of that editorial.
Ta. Gotta go for a while.
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Nash... you missed the whole point... we are laughing at your anguish and name calling until you riot in the streets and then we slap you silly and laugh at how you are polarizing people even more..
You don't get to laugh about heartland or republican riots or army of lawyer generated recounts cause... they just don't happen..
you are the one standing in the riot caused bonfire spewing hate and calling us mean spirited.
most of your contributions... the so called elite... we can live without... you can't live without us.
lazs
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I don't see all this "liberal crying" all you guys keep talking about, in spite of you trying to create it here. The bottom line is more people connected with Bush than connected with Kerry- I consider that a difference of opinion, which is what makes horse races and politics....and I'll survive the next four years just fine, probably better than most of you who voted Bush.
This constant attack mode so many of you have been on since the election is tiresome, really. Mix that in with "conservative political correctness" and what we have is another AGW- a core group of conservative posters who attack anyone who offers a difference of opinion. There IS no more Kerry Camp. He lost. Some of you need to get over it.
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Originally posted by rpm
You look so cute in your little Jr. Stalker pj's. Laz, think about it man.
Nash is obviously a sharp guy. Pretty typical of liberals. They think they are intellectually superior (sometimes wealth and privilege figure into the equation, not sure in this case) and rationalize their self serving agenda accordingly. Where rpmhat works into the mix, is anyone's guess. He is to me kinda the 'Donny the retard' "I like tatertots!" of liberals. He should have lost the stfu till JAN 1 bet. MT and Sandman had a whole lot more to add.
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Originally posted by Creamo
Nash is obviously a sharp guy. Pretty typical of liberals. They think they are intellectually superior (sometimes wealth and privilege figure into the equation, not sure in this case) and rationalize their self serving agenda accordingly. Where rpmhat works into the mix, is anyone's guess. He is to me kinda the 'Donny the retard' "I like tatertots!" of liberals. He should have lost the stfu till JAN 1 bet. MT and Sandman had a whole lot more to add.
MT, Sandman and Saburos knew it would take until Jan.1 until the celebration here subsided- they wouldn't be posting right now anyway for fear of running afoul of this Conservative Lynch Mob. They're smart.
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gotta agree... nash is a buffoon.. he is in the entertainment field of "witty" elite. sandie and MT were a lot more fun tho... more substancce and less.... "well, I know I'm right so why don't you just get with the program and quit looking at the facts?"
You will never change nash's mind because he feels he is above it all. A real biggot. Facts mean nothing unless they are well written witty and.... most of all.... support his position and make him look hip and current... no, not just current... a notch above current...
I look at things differently... probly because of different life experiances... the people I was expossed to and my peers were criminal scum... biggots, bikers drug dealers etc. Those who did drugs like heroin weren't considered cutting edge byu this group... they were the weak ones and were often hunted down and killed simply for their addiction... we would be amazed that the same addiction would be considered ultra hip in some circles.
The good thing about growing up with the people I did was that they were so bad that it was a lot easier to see that they were wrong... some of their ways were seductive but most were obviously wrong and extreme.. On the other side... If you surround yourself with other groups whose sole claim to fame is that they are somehow better and brighter... there is no downside... no reason to look around and out of the box. Reinforcement is a cubicle or an article or a play away. You plant your butt in a big city and feed on each others faith in your own superiority.
you do your best to get the yountg into the fold... they have issues with belonging anyway... you want them because they have the energy.... MT or sandie or even nash just don't have the energy anymore to drink all night and turn over cars in a riot.
seems like that to me anyway...
lazs
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Originally posted by Airhead
MT, Sandman and Saburos knew it would take until Jan.1 until the celebration here subsided- they wouldn't be posting right now anyway for fear of running afoul of this Conservative Lynch Mob. They're smart.
Yeah, it's been a HUGE PARTEEEEEE!
At least they have their honor.
Just in case I forgot to mention it, I do have the entire "Hee Haw" 4 DVD set AND every Fat Albert episode queued in Netflix.
Booya! Funkypants, your like school on Sunday. Hey, Hey, Hey!
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Originally posted by lazs2
Nash... you missed the whole point... we are laughing at your anguish and name calling until you riot in the streets and then we slap you silly and laugh at how you are polarizing people even more..
lazs
shh, if they realise they are experiencing anguish there gonna sue the pants of you...
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Anguish? Try disgust, Vort- the disgust of witnessing a right wing circle jerk. It's just....nasty. And don't eat that cracker.
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Originally posted by Airhead
Anguish? Try disgust, Vort- the disgust of witnessing a right wing circle jerk
so there isnt a left wing circle?
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Originally posted by Creamo
Where rpmhat works into the mix, is anyone's guess. He is to me kinda the 'Donny the retard' "I like tatertots!" of liberals.
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I'm not going to be your monkey.
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so seriously... is sean penn a reasonable guy or a crybaby hothead? are the democrats screeching whiners or not? do we have republican riots? who comes up with the fake memos and dan blather? michelle moore? hate piece or truthful documentary?
the democrats are like teasing your little brothers.... they are so easy to get wound up and they screech so humorously..
It seems to me the democreats and liberals here and everywhere are their own worst enemies... they have some silly pact where they have to pretend that even the nuttiest amoung them all are right too and need to defend those fruitcake positions in order to keep the whole freak show under the tent.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
Feed me.
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who started this thread nash?
lazs
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Monkeys!
-SW
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Originally posted by lazs2
who started this thread nash?
lazs
"The point is not to win the argument, the point is to make sure the argument never stops. Permanent war isn't a policy imposed from above; it's an emotional imperative that rises from the bottom."
Belive me lazs, I know what it's like to wake up at 7 in the morning when your dealer wakes up at 11. It's not pretty. I think there's a never ending argument over on the freeper's BBS. Mind you, they just screech among themselves and only pretend that there's a bogeyman in the room. But until the dealer wakes up, it might just be the next best place to get your fix.
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Originally posted by lazs2
see what I mean nash? ya just got to wind him up a bit and feed him some NBC or dan blather.
lars! weeping toast boy! we were all so worried... I even asked people (well... liberal people) to go by your house and check your oven to make sure your weren't doing yourself and injury.... I am relieved that only your weeping toast avatar has died.
lazs
Lazs, I keep both a shotgun and a baseball bat next to my door. One is for those who would do harm to me and my family, the other is to educate idiots, come by my place and get edumacated sometime.
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that's the spirit lars... get your mean face on.. don't let em think you are some pasty faced liberal who drives befudled old rest home patients to the polls on election day to get em to vote for some wussy liberal cause or another.
don't tremble while holding the bat or shotgun and.... don't lisp when yu tell em to get out of the "houth". Oh.. and if you want em to believe your new found tough guy persona... ditch the kerrie bumper stickers on the volvo.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
that's the spirit lars... get your mean face on.. don't let em think you are some pasty faced liberal who drives befudled old rest home patients to the polls on election day to get em to vote for some wussy liberal cause or another.
don't tremble while holding the bat or shotgun and.... don't lisp when yu tell em to get out of the "houth". Oh.. and if you want em to believe your new found tough guy persona... ditch the kerrie bumper stickers on the volvo.
lazs
I've seen guys with your persona crying for their mommy during a firefight, they were just about as useless as a fifth tit on a cow.
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I've seen guys who couldn't take pressure too. Ya never know which one it will be tho. way back when I was a lot more loaded and sucidal... we all change from those days... you... me. we aren't the same person today that we were then. We are both a lot more "cautious" It's a good thing really.
but seriously... you are the guy asking me to come over so that you can do me an injury with a bat or shotgun .... what kind of shotgun by the way? And... if it is safely locked away in a safe or with a gun lock how in the world would it do you any good? Do you have the ammo stored safely in another location?
And... what the hell happened to your weeping toast avatar? doesn't fit your newfound tough guy image? you should keep it... it makes you look mean.... in a pouty sort of way.
lazs