Aces High Bulletin Board

General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: VWE on December 03, 2004, 09:48:37 AM

Title: Merry Xmas... unless...
Post by: VWE on December 03, 2004, 09:48:37 AM
(http://images.somethingawful.com/mjolnir/images/cg11302004/Edison.jpg)
Title: Merry Xmas... unless...
Post by: TheDudeDVant on December 03, 2004, 12:59:02 PM
lol Another fine example of hope spread through god's love.. 8)

Merry x-mas and have a deadly newyear!
Title: Merry Xmas... unless...
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on December 03, 2004, 01:18:15 PM
You know, the "X"Mas thing has always annoyed me. Always struck me as a way to get Christ out of Christmas. Seems stupid to me. I'm not religious really, but why bother taking Christ out of Christmas, if you either don't like Christ or don't believe in him, then don't celebrate Christmas. It is simple, really.
Title: Merry Xmas... unless...
Post by: AWMac on December 03, 2004, 01:24:45 PM
I agree.
Title: Merry Xmas... unless...
Post by: Muckmaw1 on December 03, 2004, 01:26:30 PM
The X abbreviation of 'Xmas' for 'Christmas' is neither modern nor disrespectful. The notion that it is a new and vulgar representation of the word 'Christmas' seems to stem from the erroneous belief that the letter 'X' is used to stand for the word 'Christ' because of its resemblance to a cross, or that the abbreviation was deliberately concocted "to take the 'Christ' out of Christmas." Actually, this usage is nearly as old as Christianity itself, and its origins lie in the fact that the first letter in the Greek word for 'Christ' is 'chi,' and the Greek letter 'chi' is represented by a symbol similar to the letter 'X' in the modern Roman alphabet. Hence 'Xmas' is indeed perfectly legitimate abbreviation for the word 'Christmas' (just as 'Xian' is also sometimes used as an abbreviation of the word 'Christian').

None of this means that Christians (and others) aren't justified in feeling slighted when people write 'Xmas' rather than 'Christmas,' but the point is that the abbreviation was not created specifically for the purpose of demeaning Christ, Christians, Christianity, or Christmas -- it's a very old artifact of a very different language.
Title: Merry Xmas... unless...
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 03, 2004, 08:03:07 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Muckmaw1
The X abbreviation of 'Xmas' for 'Christmas' is neither modern nor disrespectful. The notion that it is a new and vulgar representation of the word 'Christmas' seems to stem from the erroneous belief that the letter 'X' is used to stand for the word 'Christ' because of its resemblance to a cross, or that the abbreviation was deliberately concocted "to take the 'Christ' out of Christmas." Actually, this usage is nearly as old as Christianity itself, and its origins lie in the fact that the first letter in the Greek word for 'Christ' is 'chi,' and the Greek letter 'chi' is represented by a symbol similar to the letter 'X' in the modern Roman alphabet. Hence 'Xmas' is indeed perfectly legitimate abbreviation for the word 'Christmas' (just as 'Xian' is also sometimes used as an abbreviation of the word 'Christian').

None of this means that Christians (and others) aren't justified in feeling slighted when people write 'Xmas' rather than 'Christmas,' but the point is that the abbreviation was not created specifically for the purpose of demeaning Christ, Christians, Christianity, or Christmas -- it's a very old artifact of a very different language.


If that is true, And Im not saying its not as I dont know.

that is very very interesting