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Post by: brady on December 05, 2004, 10:04:21 PM: ???

(http://www.myphotodrive.com//uploads/686_256.JPG)
Title: Name This...(958)
Post by: nirvana on December 05, 2004, 10:46:37 PM: a french vessel with minimal anti-aircraft support?
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Post by: Howitzer on December 06, 2004, 01:04:53 AM: Man, I'm not sure, but that picture almost looks fake. I had to take another look at it. For some reason, to me, the water doesn't look right... almost too real. Like the ship was digitally put on top of that water. Maybe its just because the smoke looks so grainy/blurry and that wake at the very bottom looks so incredibly clear. Cool pic though, can't wait to hear the answer =)
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Post by: straffo on December 06, 2004, 02:09:29 AM: Quote
Originally posted by nirvana
a french vessel with minimal anti-aircraft support?

hahem ... if French the stripe on the flag are not correct :)
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Post by: Holden McGroin on December 06, 2004, 02:45:45 AM: Quote
Originally posted by straffo
hahem ... if French the stripe on the flag are not correct :)

What too many colors? (joke)

Maybe a Netherlands flag.
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Post by: straffo on December 06, 2004, 02:53:16 AM: hehe :) full white it would have been the King of France Color
reference (http://perso.wanadoo.fr/pierre.gay/EngPages/MetroHis)
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Post by: Stratocaster on December 06, 2004, 06:22:49 AM: thats a pic from Pacific Fighters or IL2
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Post by: GRUNHERZ on December 06, 2004, 06:31:13 AM: I got this one!!

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Post by: MiloMorai on December 06, 2004, 06:55:25 AM: Dutch Tromp class cruiser, the Hr. Ms. Tromp

(http://www.jeroenkoppes.com/ww2/units_dutch/images/navy_cruiser_tromp_2.jpg)

Look at the structure at the step down of the hull.
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Post by: DieAz on December 06, 2004, 08:03:01 AM: Quote
Originally posted by straffo
hehe :) full white it would have been the King of France Color
reference (http://perso.wanadoo.fr/pierre.gay/EngPages/MetroHis)

Ah ok , so THATS why yall wave white flags all the time.

mmm hahaha j/k, had to do it, was too easy not to.

:D
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Post by: Bodhi on December 06, 2004, 09:16:42 AM: Quote
Originally posted by straffo
hehe :) full white it would have been the King of France Color
reference (http://perso.wanadoo.fr/pierre.gay/EngPages/MetroHis)

thanks for the reference
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Post by: frank3 on December 06, 2004, 02:03:19 PM: HMS Flower!!!! God I love you brady!
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Post by: hawker238 on December 06, 2004, 04:24:46 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Howitzer
Man, I'm not sure, but that picture almost looks fake. I had to take another look at it. For some reason, to me, the water doesn't look right... almost too real. Like the ship was digitally put on top of that water. Maybe its just because the smoke looks so grainy/blurry and that wake at the very bottom looks so incredibly clear. Cool pic though, can't wait to hear the answer =)

I agree.
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Post by: MiloMorai on December 06, 2004, 04:45:08 PM: Quote
Originally posted by hawker238
I agree.

http://home.wxs.nl/~jviss000/Photo_tromp.htm

(http://home.wxs.nl/~jviss000/Cruisers/Tromp_highspeed.jpg)

Tromp at high speed, probably in the Netherlands East Indies (Collection J. Klootwijk)

History of the ship,

http://home.wxs.nl/~jviss000/Tromp_his.htm
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Post by: nirvana on December 06, 2004, 05:08:31 PM: sorry i just realized the colours were wrong when i saw the Dutch flag at school oopsies
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Post by: frank3 on December 06, 2004, 05:30:18 PM: Here's a reminder :)

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Post by: MiloMorai on December 06, 2004, 05:59:59 PM: Quote
Originally posted by frank3
Here's a reminder :)

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The flag flown by ships of the Royal Navy, a reminder. ;) ;)

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HMS Flower!!!! God I love you brady!
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Post by: brady on December 06, 2004, 09:33:25 PM: Tromp, it is:)

It is my favorate Picture of her, realy a fantistac image. The Dutch Faught Valiently in the East Indies, Her Naval Forces Espichaly So.
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Post by: straffo on December 07, 2004, 01:58:41 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Bodhi
thanks for the reference

np :)

Did you know why the flag of the king was white ?

It's because it's traditionaly the colour of the blessed virgin Mary, the lys flower is supposed to be comme from the shape of an Angon (a Francs pike/javellin)* but it's perhaps an urban legen :)

* it's one of the explication ,another is, it's the stylized shape of a frog :D
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Post by: Widewing on December 07, 2004, 08:08:13 AM: Quote
Originally posted by brady
Tromp, it is:)

It is my favorate Picture of her, realy a fantistac image. The Dutch Faught Valiently in the East Indies, Her Naval Forces Espichaly So.

Yes, the Dutch sailors gave a very good account of themselves, despite their Admiral Doorman making a series of horrific blunders (largely due to very poor communications between ships in the task force).

Ultimately, it was the Perth and Houston that inflicted the greatest damage to the Japanese when they broke into the Japanese anchorage and shot up and sank many troop transports.

My regards,

Widewing
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Post by: frank3 on December 07, 2004, 02:54:35 PM: Thank you for bringing up some Dutch things Brady :)
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Post by: brady on December 08, 2004, 12:07:52 AM: One of the Many areas of WW2 History I am trying to learn more about is the Dutch in the Pacific in WW2, Her subs preformed very well, and she had some very interesting equipment at her disposale. Dull Has some inte5resting thigs to say in his book "The Imperial Japanese Navy (1941-45)"

Specifical During the battle of the Java Sea Doorman (Dutch Admarial In comand), this battle is very interesting and is filled with considerable acts of courage and selfless- nes by all countries, "A TorpedoStruck De-Ruyter aft; erupting into flames, her ammunation exploding, she fell out of line to starbord and soon sank, taking admarial Doorman and 344 of his men with her. She had don all that could be asked of an outnumbered and outguned ship. Four Minutes later a torpedo slamed into the Java. She Burst into flames and soon followed the De Ruyter to the bottom. Only the Huston and Perth were left afloat. Doormans last order to them was to go to Batavia, rather than to stand by to pick up survivors."
Doorman was dogged in his pursuite of the enemy he worked very hard to finialy get at the enemy Transports, and the Japanese had preformed very well in this engagement, which I only touched briefly on, Doorman is cool in my book.