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Title: I live fired my Nagant, and got to live fire an MP40
Post by: Hawklore on December 06, 2004, 09:42:40 AM
I got to live fire my Nagant yesterday, two rounds, at the WWII Reenactment I was at.. Standard Russian/Soviet Training for soldiers during WWII were two rounds to familiarize them with the rifle..

We shot at bowling pins 25 yards away.. Or 50...

Out of two shots, one standing, one prone. I hit the bowling pin once, standing, and missed prone..

I then got to shoot an Mp40, for free, I got to load the mag into the gun, I shot two round bursts at about 5 bowling pins knocked four of them down..

That was fun..


Hell I'm not that accurate, but it was my first time shooting over the .22 caliber...

PS: The MP40 was full auto.
Title: I live fired my Nagant, and got to live fire an MP40
Post by: Makarov9 on December 06, 2004, 09:48:22 AM
I really enjoy shooting my MN 91/30. Mine was made in 1943 so I also enjoy the historical aspect of it...and the ammo is cheap. :)

Would love to fire an MP40. Lucky sob.
Title: I live fired my Nagant, and got to live fire an MP40
Post by: GRUNHERZ on December 06, 2004, 10:24:50 AM
I got to fire a few clips though an MP40 a few years ago and I didnt like the gun too much. But honestly I must mention that something got in my eye even with shooting glasses on just before I shot so I couldnt aim too well beyond just making sure the rounds went safely down range so I'm sure that uncomfortable inconveniance influenced me.

I also fired some Mp5s, which was very cool.

However I found the Tommy gun to be my favorite. I only regret there were no drum mags I could shoot.
Title: I live fired my Nagant, and got to live fire an MP40
Post by: Hawklore on December 06, 2004, 10:33:10 AM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
I got to fire a few clips though an MP40 a few years ago and I didnt like the gun too much. But honestly I must mention that something got in my eye even with shooting glasses on just before I shot so I couldnt aim too well beyond just making sure the rounds went safely down range so I'm sure that uncomfortable inconveniance influenced me.

I also fired some Mp5s, which was very cool.

However I found the Tommy gun to be my favorite. I only regret there were no drum mags I could shoot.


I fired without hearing or eye protection, the MP40, I had hearing protection for nagant, cause someone was firing next to me.
Title: I live fired my Nagant, and got to live fire an MP40
Post by: GRUNHERZ on December 06, 2004, 10:35:17 AM
Indoor range so I definitely wanted hearing and eye protection. :)

RATTTATTAAAAAAA  

fun stuff
Title: I live fired my Nagant, and got to live fire an MP40
Post by: GtoRA2 on December 06, 2004, 10:55:03 AM
Take it from me, do not shoot without ear protection if you value your hearing.


I have perminant ringing in both ears from shooting with no ear protection.



Other then that it sounds like a blast.
Title: I live fired my Nagant, and got to live fire an MP40
Post by: lazs2 on December 06, 2004, 02:35:11 PM
second that... my ears ring 24/7.  

lazs
Title: I live fired my Nagant, and got to live fire an MP40
Post by: lasersailor184 on December 06, 2004, 02:39:31 PM
Which model nagant?  91/38's are really fun!
Title: I live fired my Nagant, and got to live fire an MP40
Post by: Hawklore on December 06, 2004, 03:06:40 PM
91/30
Title: I live fired my Nagant, and got to live fire an MP40
Post by: medicboy on December 06, 2004, 03:37:52 PM
I got to shoot a "Tomy" gun a few years ago, on full auto and on semi.  It was actualy quite accurate out to 100 yards or so on semi auto.  It had the 80 round drum and drew more than a few looks from the other people at the range.
Title: I live fired my Nagant, and got to live fire an MP40
Post by: Jester on December 06, 2004, 03:54:24 PM
I like my Mauser K98K - shoots pretty good though it weighs a ton when I had to carry it around back in my old reenacting days.

Every now and then will take it deer hunting just for a lark. At 8mm, if you hit anything it is dead.
Title: I live fired my Nagant, and got to live fire an MP40
Post by: LLv34 Jarsci on December 06, 2004, 04:03:55 PM
When I was at service we were having a live fire excercise which lasted for a week. We shot LAW training rounds etc, but most memorable thing was shooting Suomi-MP.

Its better than the russian counterpart, dunno its name, but you will recognize it if you have played CoD, its the gun with round 71 ammo magazine ;)

First we shot 25 shots prone from 100m.. quite accurate , even with 3 shot burst (full auto whole time)

But the fun part was to shoot standing from 50m, full clips....tatatatatatata

The target was really ripping apart when keeping firing!! And the most amazing part was that I was able to keep continous fire with accuracy , so the bullets were hitting the target, not going upstairs into the sky like with new 7.62mm caliber assault rifles.

Would like to have that kind of gun with me when in close combat in trenches.

Also to be noted: all ammo was from 1944, all were tracer rounds. We shot 5000 of them and not a single one of them worked properly --> no tracers visible.  Go figure..
Title: I live fired my Nagant, and got to live fire an MP40
Post by: United on December 06, 2004, 04:06:27 PM
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Originally posted by Jester
I like my Mauser K98K - shoots pretty good though it weighs a ton when I had to carry it around back in my old reenacting days.

Every now and then will take it deer hunting just for a lark. At 8mm, if you hit anything it is dead.

Hehe, I use a 7mm every once in a while, so I can only imagine what an 8mm would do to a deer!
Title: I live fired my Nagant, and got to live fire an MP40
Post by: rpm on December 06, 2004, 04:45:57 PM
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
Take it from me, do not shoot without ear protection if you value your hearing.


I have perminant ringing in both ears from shooting with no ear protection.  
Ditto. I've had tinitus for years. Part guns, part work, lotta rock n roll.

I was talking to someone earlier about some really cool noise cancelling headphones. You hear speach fine, but they cancell out the loud noises. Uber cool.
Title: I live fired my Nagant, and got to live fire an MP40
Post by: brendo on December 06, 2004, 04:48:19 PM
Jarsci, Im interested in the old ammo.

Where did they find 5000 WWII rounds.... was old ammo so common at the time?

Is old WWII ammo still commonly found today? Why is it still around after so many years....does it sit forgotton by the truck load or something?
Title: I live fired my Nagant, and got to live fire an MP40
Post by: ra on December 06, 2004, 05:01:55 PM
Old ammo is available everywhere.  All countries filled  their armories with enough ammo to last their army a long time.  After the war it just sat there, no longer needed but still useful in the event of another war.  After a few decades it gets sold off to the private sector in bulk for use as target ammo.  I recently bought 900 rds of 8mm for $110 shipped, still in the original wooden crate.

ra
Title: I live fired my Nagant, and got to live fire an MP40
Post by: Hawklore on December 06, 2004, 06:00:52 PM
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Originally posted by LLv34 Jarsci
When I was at service we were having a live fire excercise which lasted for a week. We shot LAW training rounds etc, but most memorable thing was shooting Suomi-MP.

Its better than the russian counterpart, dunno its name, but you will recognize it if you have played CoD, its the gun with round 71 ammo magazine ;)

First we shot 25 shots prone from 100m.. quite accurate , even with 3 shot burst (full auto whole time)

But the fun part was to shoot standing from 50m, full clips....tatatatatatata

The target was really ripping apart when keeping firing!! And the most amazing part was that I was able to keep continous fire with accuracy , so the bullets were hitting the target, not going upstairs into the sky like with new 7.62mm caliber assault rifles.

Would like to have that kind of gun with me when in close combat in trenches.

Also to be noted: all ammo was from 1944, all were tracer rounds. We shot 5000 of them and not a single one of them worked properly --> no tracers visible.  Go figure..


PPSH 41?
Title: I live fired my Nagant, and got to live fire an MP40
Post by: Dune on December 06, 2004, 06:41:43 PM
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Originally posted by United
Hehe, I use a 7mm every once in a while, so I can only imagine what an 8mm would do to a deer!


Actually, while the 8mm makes for a very good deer round, the 7mm Remington Mag (if that's what you're talking about) is a more potent cartridge.  That's due to it's much higher velocity.  Winchester's 175grn 7mm Mag comes out at 2860fps while their 8mm Mauser with a 170grn clocks in at 2360.
Title: I live fired my Nagant, and got to live fire an MP40
Post by: United on December 06, 2004, 06:50:28 PM
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Originally posted by Dune
Actually, while the 8mm makes for a very good deer round, the 7mm Remington Mag (if that's what you're talking about) is a more potent cartridge.  That's due to it's much higher velocity.  Winchester's 175grn 7mm Mag comes out at 2860fps while their 8mm Mauser with a 170grn clocks in at 2360.

Actually, the gun is older than I am.  All that I know is what my grandfather told me.  He said it was an old rifle he had with a Mauser action.  In fact, we still have some old 7mm shells in the green Remington boxes from the 70s and one from 82.  This was the latest ammo that was bought for it for a while until I got it, so it kind of gives a fit as to when it was used most often.  I believe I heard that it was bought in the 60s or so, but I'd have to go up and do some research on it to find out.
Title: Re: I live fired my Nagant, and got to live fire an MP40
Post by: Widewing on December 06, 2004, 07:08:48 PM
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Originally posted by Hawklore
Standard Russian/Soviet Training for soldiers during WWII were two rounds to familiarize them with the rifle..


That speaks volumes, doesn't it?

I put 200 rounds through my CETME before I was even remotely comfortable with the rifle and its accuracy.

My regards,

Widewing
Title: I live fired my Nagant, and got to live fire an MP40
Post by: ra on December 06, 2004, 07:20:31 PM
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Originally posted by Dune
Actually, while the 8mm makes for a very good deer round, the 7mm Remington Mag (if that's what you're talking about) is a more potent cartridge.  That's due to it's much higher velocity.  Winchester's 175grn 7mm Mag comes out at 2860fps while their 8mm Mauser with a 170grn clocks in at 2360.

Most 8mm hunting ammo in the US is rather weak because not all 8mm rifles can handle the full potential of the 8mm round.    You can buy higher power 8mm, like 180 grain/2700fps, or load your own.  An 8mm is about as good as a 30-06.

ra
Title: I live fired my Nagant, and got to live fire an MP40
Post by: Dune on December 06, 2004, 07:42:36 PM
Very true.  As I said, it's a quality cartridge.  It's just that you can get a more oomph out of the 7mag (btw, I don't own one, so I'm not pimping for them)
Title: I live fired my Nagant, and got to live fire an MP40
Post by: rpm on December 06, 2004, 10:18:26 PM
I have an old 8mm Mod98. Is it safe to fire 7mm mags?