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Title: What the h.ll is going on???
Post by: Zuum on December 07, 2004, 05:49:13 PM
The whole arena sucks....disco after disco....lag after lag...update after update....reset after reset...

That sounds like Microsoft.

Mystic  communication problems....mystic problems in encoding...mystic updatings.....

Is HTC feeling retro?:(
....or just suffering the lack of resources and money?

If yes, please, let us know that well before we have to confirm our next month fees...
Title: What the h.ll is going on???
Post by: bustr on December 07, 2004, 05:53:51 PM
Have you run a pingplot to see whats going on between you and the server? Scuzzy would be the person to engage with this observation.
Title: What the h.ll is going on???
Post by: Zuum on December 07, 2004, 05:58:14 PM
Yep....I  know the ping stats.
Its not the question about  ping stats only....its the question about the whole game and the encoding in it.
Title: What the h.ll is going on???
Post by: Zuum on December 07, 2004, 06:01:54 PM
BTW, I never want to be arrogant , if u think so...
sry for that  impression...
I just wanna have a good and fair play.

;-)
Title: What the h.ll is going on???
Post by: bustr on December 07, 2004, 06:03:14 PM
My apology, hope you and Hitech can work this out.:)
Title: What the h.ll is going on???
Post by: hitech on December 07, 2004, 06:35:17 PM
Or it could be isolated to you.


HiTech
Title: What the h.ll is going on???
Post by: Zuum on December 07, 2004, 06:40:35 PM
Really?

I have balls to say:

I did it wrong..sorry, Skuzzy!

So far it seems to be, all those problems are concerning into one local carrier...

wbw,
Zuum
Title: What the h.ll is going on???
Post by: Howitzer on December 07, 2004, 06:42:28 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Zuum
BTW, I never want to be arrogant , if u think so...
sry for that  impression...
I just wanna have a good and fair play.

;-)


LOL and that first post you made shouldn't lead us in this direction?  All this is, is flatout flaming of HTC and all their efforts to better gameplay.  They will work with you to fix it, and they have great customer service, otherwise, I'd just hit that "delete account" button now and save us all the BBS complaining.  :aok
Title: What the h.ll is going on???
Post by: Zuum on December 07, 2004, 06:43:59 PM
ok..
Title: What the h.ll is going on???
Post by: jpeg on December 07, 2004, 06:46:32 PM
do a traceroute to htc's aceshigh server (sorry don't know the hostname or ip address but you can find that out from skuzzy)

I serously doubt the route from across the globe is good.
Title: What the h.ll is going on???
Post by: Zuum on December 07, 2004, 06:54:07 PM
The "customer service" is a quite negotiable thing...
I really  agree with You in the most points of of your attention.
But....We, the people outside  of the english world,  have to go on with the products and services for "english-spoken .people-only..."
Title: What the h.ll is going on???
Post by: Angus on December 07, 2004, 06:59:51 PM
Zuum.
Your signature needs a spelling correction.
How about:
"If God hadn't meant us to fly, he would have created us with roots"...



;)
Title: What the h.ll is going on???
Post by: Zuum on December 07, 2004, 07:07:03 PM
Quote
Originally posted by jpeg
do a traceroute to htc's aceshigh server (sorry don't know the hostname or ip address but you can find that out from skuzzy)

I serously doubt the route from across the globe is good.


So...The neck is Savvis.net


Link (http://www.rubricum.com/files/savvis.jpg)
Title: What the h.ll is going on???
Post by: Zuum on December 07, 2004, 07:08:50 PM
Thank You for correct spelling!
:aok
Title: What the h.ll is going on???
Post by: Lizard3 on December 07, 2004, 07:22:48 PM
Well, I hate to concur, but...I concur to some extent. This map is great, but it SUX.

Its a real ***** to work together, defend a base, sink the cv and have the same GD CV on your doorstep in 15 minutes. The CV's not being handed over after a port is taken and cv killed is a killer.

Dive bombing level bombers really ****IN SUX as well.
Title: What the h.ll is going on???
Post by: bustr on December 07, 2004, 07:38:43 PM
When my route hits Savvis.net the time jumps from 16 to 62 for my connection round trip. At the MA Arena choice connection speed I fluctuate from 62-73. I don't know if Scuzzy has ever thought it neccesarry to discuss this increase in round trip time with Savvis.net when our packets hit their network.

You are not the first person I have seen this increase with on their ping plot hitting Savvis.net. Understandably you can see why it does not affect me.:)
Title: What the h.ll is going on???
Post by: crims on December 07, 2004, 07:45:38 PM
Have you run the PNG program ? And there is no problem from you to HTC Site? You can also Check routers in different contry's at http://www.internettrafficreport.com  Hope it all works out :aok




Crims
479th Raiders
Title: What the h.ll is going on???
Post by: Morpheus on December 07, 2004, 07:46:39 PM
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Originally posted by Howitzer
LOL and that first post you made shouldn't lead us in this direction?  All this is, is flatout flaming of HTC and all their efforts to better gameplay.  They will work with you to fix it, and they have great customer service, otherwise, I'd just hit that "delete account" button now and save us all the BBS complaining.  :aok


I doubt many took him serious to begin with Howie. ;):cool:
Title: What the h.ll is going on???
Post by: Howitzer on December 08, 2004, 02:20:06 AM
Quote
Originally posted by MoRphEuS
I doubt many took him serious to begin with Howie. ;):cool:


Yeah well... I was feeling frisky =)
Title: What the h.ll is going on???
Post by: Panzzer on December 08, 2004, 05:26:15 AM
Here's my ping stats, there's packet loss at Savvis.net:
(http://www.vaskuu.cx/riku/ping.png)

Oh, and normal ping times (MA) are at around 150 ms.
Title: What the h.ll is going on???
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on December 08, 2004, 12:25:05 PM
I have endorsed someone carpet-bombing Savvis HQ for years.  The brief outages on the net would be well worth the end result after everyone shifted around the holes in chicago and st louis.
Title: What the h.ll is going on???
Post by: dedalos on December 08, 2004, 02:41:36 PM
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Originally posted by hitech
Or it could be isolated to you.


HiTech


Or not,
 
ping is 20ms but the staters, a few discos, invisible gvs, and frame rates below 15, vox loss, etc continue on these big maps.  Could it be memory?  I only have 256 RAM and 256 Video.  Small maps fps is above 40 and no staters.  (it may not be the large maps and only be OZ and the current one, not sure about it)

(edit) Forgot to mention the unloading of half a 110s ammo on a plane at d200 with 0 to very little damage.

PC has been optimized as far as services and processes running in the back.
Title: What the h.ll is going on???
Post by: GreenCloud on December 08, 2004, 02:59:28 PM
ded...you ram ..is wayyyyyyy lo


btw..i have never have vox problems..
BUT I do have mnay stitter..and lo FPS problem..which i relaly hate and wears thin..


I will continue to pay HTC..and hopefully it will smooth out in the next few months..if not..then i cancell..and find another game ..if there is one
Title: What the h.ll is going on???
Post by: Zuum on December 08, 2004, 03:34:25 PM
Peace, my friends, peace...:D
Ok, first of all...I never mentioned to provoke anybody. I was too heated and frustrated while wroting the lead of this discussion.
I have to apologize everybody, who feels himself as hurted or insulted...
A big SORRY for You, fellows. And a big Sorry especially for You, Hitech, too.
No hard feelings?

And now, to the point....
The frame rates are telling something about encoding...
My "Messerschmitt" is:
-AMD Athlon 3000+
-Radeon 9800Pro 256Mb
-1024Mb Ram
+the rest of things...no extra processes running etc, etc...

I have tuned that system a lot...and, btw, I use the MSFS(Microsoft Flight Simulator 2004) as an indicator of encoding. As a testbed,  there is a big number of freeware add-on sceneries available...

In the MSFS, with the combination of the following; Resolution 1280x1024x32, the worst possible "amateur-encoded-3D-scenery" and the maximum settings of the VGA-card
I will get constantly  35-40 FPS at least...(if u dont believe, I can send You videos captured by FRAPS). That is LOT!!!

In the AH II...which is visually( I mean ground) a really poor and ancient program(compared to MSFS), I get usually 15-25 FPS, temporarely,even, lower than 15 fps....at the ground level. In the skies i get normally 40-60 fps...and thats ok.

Is it really worth of it to encode every possible  leaf in the trees? Or...could you optimize the code to reproduce the visual reproduction somehow?

Summa summarum...when I make a conclusion about this and those numerous "weird incidents" at MA (just like today, when my 3xB-24 formation was killed suddenly without a reason. No shooting, no enemies around or any other logical reason to loose them...just a  text message"You have been killed"....and I was located in tower.) Maybe, that was a touch of God...

I really wish and hope that HTC is working haaaaaaard to solve this all.

With my honest and best wishes,

Zuum
Title: from florida
Post by: Eagler on December 08, 2004, 03:55:00 PM
Road Runner Cable :

(http://www.pogbird.com/ebay/ping_120704.jpg)
Title: What the h.ll is going on???
Post by: wrag on December 08, 2004, 04:48:39 PM
Hmmm Zuum I'm not sure whats going on with your system.

I've got

AMD 2500+
Radeon 9800 pro 128
ram = 512

And in AHII lowest i get is around 30 fps on the ground and I get upwards of 100 in the air.  Your system specs appear better then mine but you seem to be getting lower rates????

As to the ping's posted here.  My average ping using pingplotter comes in at just over 300.

Drops to about 190 and varies as high as 240 when I hook up to HTC.

And I'm here in the U.S.

I was having, and from time to time still have, a terrible time with savvis.net too!

Packet loss for me from time to time is a real issue and the LAG!

It can be very annoying to hit a con and see little or even NO damage.

It's even more annoying when what you see is NOT what you get.

You fire at the con and the con jumps/micro warps out of the way.

Con on your 6 or comin in on your 12 and on your front end that con HAS NO SHOT!  Nose is off by 20 degrees or more and BAM!  You're going down!  You don't even see the tracers till AFTER you've been hit then there all around you.

MOST FRUSTRATING.

So to anyone reading this maybe now it is understandable why I tend to extend so much.
Title: What the h.ll is going on???
Post by: Zuum on December 08, 2004, 05:07:32 PM
Wonder, why my graph from yesterday didnīt appear....
Anyway, here is the normal situation:
(http://www.rubricum.com/files/savvis.jpg)
Title: What the h.ll is going on???
Post by: crims on December 08, 2004, 05:38:24 PM
Thats not the MA.  MA  is  216.91.187.39



Crims
Title: What the h.ll is going on???
Post by: Morpheus on December 08, 2004, 06:05:07 PM
The rabbit is in the hole. Repeat:The rabbit is in the hole.
Title: What the h.ll is going on???
Post by: Zuum on December 08, 2004, 06:16:45 PM
The Bush is not in the hole...
Repeat: The bush is not in the hole...
repeat: the bush is not the hole
repeat: the bush is the hole...

;-)
Title: What the h.ll is going on???
Post by: Zuum on December 08, 2004, 06:25:18 PM
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Title: What the h.ll is going on???
Post by: Zuum on December 08, 2004, 06:26:43 PM
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Title: What the h.ll is going on???
Post by: Zuum on December 09, 2004, 02:30:42 AM
Quote
Originally posted by crims
Thats not the MA.  MA  is  216.91.187.39



Crims



There is it:
(http://www.rubricum.com/files/savvis3.jpg)
Title: What the h.ll is going on???
Post by: straffo on December 09, 2004, 03:16:39 AM
you forgot the 9 at the end of the adress
Title: What the h.ll is going on???
Post by: Skuzzy on December 09, 2004, 11:08:39 AM
Zuum, please post the PingPlot to 216.91.187.39 in this thread: http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=136053

Thank you.
Title: What the h.ll is going on???
Post by: mechanic on December 09, 2004, 11:29:05 AM
Quote
Originally posted by jpeg
do a traceroute to htc's aceshigh server (sorry don't know the hostname or ip address but you can find that out from skuzzy)

I serously doubt the route from across the globe is good.

i disagree, im in the UK and havnt had a disco or CTD for over two months to my knolegde. maybe the odd PC toubles, but as far a global networks go, i'd say HTC has it sorted.
Title: What the h.ll is going on???
Post by: Panzzer on December 09, 2004, 07:04:17 PM
The route has been good for the last couple of days now. But from tuesday (Dec 7th) night to wednesday (Dec 8th, European union time...) there were some packet losses, and they weren't over the Atlantic line - they were at Chicago. Now my pingplotter to ma seems to go as usual, no problems whatsoever. So it has probably been a net problem... Hopefully Zuum will calm down now. ;)

edited: correct dates changed - had my tuesday at 6th... :)