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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Kwan on December 07, 2004, 09:20:51 PM
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http://www.lancasterequine.com/jl_uploads/harrier_ejection.mpeg
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That's crazy...no caption as to where/when?
Probably was not an authorized fly zone...LOL
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must've been a great set of cans on that beach - or maybe he caught his girlfriend cheating on him...
"no honey, i'll be home all day......I'm feeling tired today..."
lmao!
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Originally posted by Waffle BAS
must've been a great set of cans on that beach - or maybe he caught his girlfriend cheating on him...
"no honey, i'll be home all day......I'm feeling tired today..."
lmao!
ROFLMFAO!
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Flameout? Odd one. You see the water disturbed by the thrust when it first drops then it get's calm again before impact. Can't tell if the nozzles shift position in the closeup. Perhaps he was in the process of transistioning when it flamed out.
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Eh, its a Harrier thats what they do best is crash. In '79 when the AV-8A deployed the USMC crashed 32 in one year.
Ever notice you dont hear much about the Harrier in combat? It had the worst operational record and the highest pilot casualties in the entire Coalition inventory in Gulf '91. I know lots of USMC Harrier pilots who transitioned from A-4 Skyhawks that wish they had their 50 year old A-4M's back.
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OUCH! he must feel like shiiiiiiiiit!
Look like he ws transitioning and lost it.
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German ace barkthorn (301 allied kills) flew a
harrier.
he acccidently wrecked the the harrier while landing
he climbed out and murmured dreihundertzwei (302) :)
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What concerns me most is, there is a Jet hovering off shore, and NOT A SINGLE PERSON seems to be looking at it!
Heck, I can't avoid starring at a kite on a string! If I saw a Harrier, I'd be like "Holy S*&T, look at that!"
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Originally posted by Grits
Ever notice you dont hear much about the Harrier in combat? It had the worst operational record and the highest pilot casualties in the entire Coalition inventory in Gulf '91. I know lots of USMC Harrier pilots who transitioned from A-4 Skyhawks that wish they had their 50 year old A-4M's back.
must be those yank pilots! "what?! a plane! hovers?!?!?! nahh!"
British seemed to do ok with it in the Falklands and Kosovo/Bosnia?
Think it was 32:0 against Argentinian aircraft.
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Originally posted by Furball
Think it was 32:0 against Argentinian aircraft.
Those were Proxies when the Argies augered trying to sink the CV!
Seriously, the AV-8 has a terrible operational combat record in all countries that use it.
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Originally posted by Furball
must be those yank pilots! "what?! a plane! hovers?!?!?! nahh!"
British seemed to do ok with it in the Falklands and Kosovo/Bosnia?
Think it was 32:0 against Argentinian aircraft.
we lost two harriers in the falklands. and those were the morons who crashed into each other in bad conditions.
out of a squadron of 10 a/c, we killed, as you say, 30-40 odd argie planes and only lost these two to mishaps.
back to the clip:
WTF is that guy doing hovering a harrier 50ft above kids playing in the sea???
thats either some clever video editing or some really stupid pilot.
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I'm guessing some kind of airshow or something?... you can see everyone's head's turn about 1/2 to 3/4 of a second after he actually ejects, so he's what, 1/4 mile out over the ocean? I'm a little rusty on my mad math skilz.
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1/4 mile is what? like 400 yrds? pretty close, wouldnt be happy if my kid was swimming there. lucky i dont have any kids come to think of it
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2168921.stm
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Originally posted by Waffle BAS
must've been a great set of cans on that beach - or maybe he caught his girlfriend cheating on him...
"no honey, i'll be home all day......I'm feeling tired today..."
lmao!
LOL! Cans on the beach? Cans in the cockpit :) The article says the pilots name was Lieutenant Cann.
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those were the morons who crashed into each other in bad conditions.
lucky i dont have any kids come to think of it
Or discernable brains. Please don't ever pass your DNA along.
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Pilot's lucky he wasn't hurt. Looked like he landed right on top of his plane.
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Originally posted by XrightyX
That's crazy...no caption as to where/when?
Probably was not an authorized fly zone...LOL
delete
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Originally posted by Waffle BAS
must've been a great set of cans on that beach - or maybe he caught his girlfriend cheating on him...
"no honey, i'll be home all day......I'm feeling tired today..."
lmao!
harriers have had frequent problems in the past with one of thier engine bearings seizeing up, that would explain the loss of power
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Originally posted by Furball
must be those yank pilots! "what?! a plane! hovers?!?!?! nahh!"
British seemed to do ok with it in the Falklands and Kosovo/Bosnia?
Think it was 32:0 against Argentinian aircraft.
british and yanks have two different versions of the aircraft with two different missions
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Originally posted by LuckyDay
I'm guessing some kind of airshow or something?... you can see everyone's head's turn about 1/2 to 3/4 of a second after he actually ejects, so he's what, 1/4 mile out over the ocean? I'm a little rusty on my mad math skilz.
delete
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If I am correct thats a couple of years old, every year they hold an airshow on the beachfront in the UK and that was the Harrier display aircraft.
Can't recall the venue but that film looks very familiar.
Cause was pilot error unfortunately, moved the wrong control at the wrong time
Have not seen the pilot for quite a while, I believe he is now piloting a desk.
Btw they use water injection for added thrust whilst in the hover. however that much water was more than required :D
As for worst operational record in the gulf, well think about it.
Sand kicks up from nozzles and guess what gets fed straight back into the intakes, wrong plane for a desert environment.
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Great video... the ejection seat hits about >< this close to something in the water; I hope it was a buoy!
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Originally posted by Furball
must be those yank pilots! "what?! a plane! hovers?!?!?! nahh!"
British seemed to do ok with it in the Falklands and Kosovo/Bosnia?
Think it was 32:0 against Argentinian aircraft.
Argentina was flying French Miraze and SuperEtandar. Record invalid :D
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Originally posted by 68DevilM
british and yanks have two different versions of the aircraft with two different missions
Main dif is the engine, I think
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i thought they all used rolls royce pegasus engines, its the Avionics in the american harrier that is different.
And they do not use them for different roles, the GR. harriers of the RAF are close support aircraft like the marines harriers. The RN harriers are used as fleet defence fighters.
RAF harrier
(http://www.raf.mod.uk/downloads/g_images/harrier04.jpg)
(http://www.raf.mod.uk/downloads/g_images/harrier11.jpg)
Fleet Air Arm Harrier
(http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/static/pages/data/gallery/full/1035298165f.jpg)
(http://www.janes.com/defence/gallery/saifs_gallery/images3/0035.jpg)
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Originally posted by Wilfrid
Or discernable brains. Please don't ever pass your DNA along.
i dont plan to for a quite a while. was it the 'morons' bit that got your knickers in a twist?
explain yourself youngman
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lol
:rofl
Originally posted by save
German ace barkthorn (301 allied kills) flew a
harrier.
he acccidently wrecked the the harrier while landing
he climbed out and murmured dreihundertzwei (302) :)
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How about you explain why two tired pilots in a war situation in the South Atlantic on a combat patrol whould be described as 'morons' when they collide in cloud, 'young man'.
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Originally posted by Wilfrid
How about you explain why two tired pilots in a war situation in the South Atlantic on a combat patrol whould be described as 'morons' when they collide in cloud, 'young man'.
I saw a program on the falklands war not so long ago. the harriers were flying in a "force 6?" "force 6 Gale/storm?" something like that, landing on a CV and keeping 24 hr patrol over the task force during it .
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hey now! calm thy nature dear friend of mother earth.
I meant no offence to said pilots, nor their families, nor the designers of thier navigational aids. Last on my list to offend was you.
please direct this anger towards another BB perpetrator and leave me to perform my own vesectomy in peace. thank you.
EDIT: further more i appologise for my slapdash remarks about these brave individuals. in retrospect what i said was uncalled for.
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Originally posted by dedalos
Argentina was flying French Miraze and SuperEtandar. Record invalid :D
mirage and super Etendard
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RAF GR 7 ZD464 Lowestoft Seafront Air Festival 20® Squadron Wittering, UK Harrier pilot hovers off a beach and accidentally retards the throttle when attempting to adjust nozzle position to leave the hover. After realizing his control error (that sudden feeling you get when suddenly your engine noise drops while your in a hover a hundred feet over water when you intended to change nozzle angle) the pilot attempted to correct the throttle position but accidentally pushed the nozzle lever forward with the throttle. The jet no longer buoyed by engine thrust began to loose altitude and accelerate towards the ocean. Pilot safely ejected at 64 ft altitude, minor ejection injuries.
Happened on 11/15/2004....
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Originally posted by 214thCavalier
Btw they use water injection for added thrust whilst in the hover. however that much water was more than required :D
ive never heard that before.
strange when i asked a mechanic what the water was for he said for engine cooling purposes
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Lol yea right so jets have to carry around water for cooling purposes ?
You were had :D
Was probably 2 years ago when i was shown around Wittering last.
Control tower with display pilot explaining what the pilot outside hovering was doing, whilst he mercilessly criticised him as he was the ex red arrows co getting back up to speed with harriers.
Also spent a long time crawling around them in the hangers with the eng officers.
Display pilot said what they used the water for and that they have enough for approx 10 minutes of use if my memory is not completely addled.
Btw Mojo the date you supplied is wrong.
No way it happened this year.
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Originally posted by 214thCavalier
Lol yea right so jets have to carry around water for cooling purposes ?
The Harrier does. The water is used to cool the engine in a hover. Taken from aerospaceweb.com:
We have learned that the Harrier carries a certain amount of cooling water that is needed to to prevent the Pegasus turbofan engine from overheating during hover. If operating conditions are such that the water is needed at the maximum cooling rate, there is only enough water available to remain in hover for about 90 seconds before the supply is exhausted. However, the aircraft rarely needs to use this cooling water at the maximum rate, and can therefore hover for considerably longer than 90 seconds. We're just not sure how long "considerably longer" is. We've observed the Harrier hovering at airshows for periods of time on the order of 5 minutes or more. Based on these numbers, our best guess is that the maximum time limit over which the Harrier can maintain hover is probably around 10 minutes or so. We will continue our research into this issue to locate a more conclusive answer. [/b]
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those are tough kids in the ocean in England in November 15th.
Classy apology Mechanic.