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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Dago on December 08, 2004, 09:12:20 PM
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I got this link from David Hackworths websight, its of Marines fighting in Fallujah. I think it is one of the best video reports to come out of Iraq giving a glimpse of the fighting. It is a 16 minute clip from a BBC reporter who seems to be embedded with the Marines. I will give the BBC crew this, they were in the thick of it.
Fallujah Fighting Video (http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/news_web/video/40566000/bb/40566639_bb_16x9.asx)
dago
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Is that the one with the Bradley putting shells into a big house? That's an impressive piece of machine right there.
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That was good - thanks Dago.
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Nice video. Why does it seem like all of the good quality battle scenes, interviews and AAR video comes from the BBC?
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Because the BBC wants to accuratley portray the fight in Iraq..
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Originally posted by Hawklore
Because the BBC wants to accuratley portray the fight in Iraq..
Best joke evah!
ack-ack
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Any ideas why the vid plays for me but is in pastels?
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Good video, but the reporter had quite the slant to his views, eh.
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BBC World is good to watch, Fox is just too painfull beyond belief one wonders if they are even covering the same story as the other networks.
And what's with Fox & Friends, they were selling their new calender last night. What kind of moron buys a calender of them other then a few of Bush's staff? LOL
...-Gixer
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Originally posted by Lizking
Good video, but the reporter had quite the slant to his views, eh.
And the Marines don't?!?
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What is your point?
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Originally posted by Lizking
Good video, but the reporter had quite the slant to his views, eh.
That's one of the drawbacks of having embedded reporters is that there's a risk of losing objectivity, with favorable bias to the attached military unit. And although there was a palpable bias in favor of his protectors, it didn't seem to skew or sensationalize the information or the report in general.
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Originally posted by Lizking
What is your point?
What's yours?
Mine is that anyone who relies on the Marines to show them the war necessarily gets a slanted view: to be balanced he'd have to spend equal time embedded with the insurgents, with all their bias.
But embedding's worse and more insipid than that simple imbalance — to keep being embedded with the USMC, he has to live up to the other meaning of embed and keep being in bed with them.
So for example: the whole "The enemy has a face — he is called Satan and he is in Fallujah" thing is an outstandingly embarrassing comment — a huge faux pas in the "hearts and minds" battle as it adds credence to the insurgent and Al Qaeda view that this really is a crusade: Xianity vs Islam. Any reporter worth his salt would have that poor Colonel's balls mounted on a plaque in their study for that foot-in-the-mouth effort. Does Paul Wood go for it? No. It's presented deadpan with no comment. Why? I can only presume it's because he doesn't want to lose his embed and probably by extension his job.
Embedding leads to exciting action pictures but very one-sided (and therefore IMO lousy) reporting. That's the main reason why the military do it. Even the Indonesian military used it when they went into Aceh.
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
Any ideas why the vid plays for me but is in pastels?
Had that happen to me rabbit...
Try reinstalling vid drivers, then reinstalling new codecs.
http://www.free-codecs.com works well. One of the huge packs will get the job done.
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I agree with Sueve.
Its a good report.
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I'd love to save that but can't for some reason - anyone else able?
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Originally posted by Wolfala
I'd love to save that but can't for some reason - anyone else able?
You can save it by doing this:
Have the link playing, go out to "Start" click on "Search" and have your computer find the file, as it will be on your drive while it is running. You can copy the file name from Media Player while it is playing. Paste that into search, when the computer finds where it is sitting, have it save it. That is how I saved it.
dago
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Tried it - even when it was fully parsed into memory with no luck. Could you send it through ICQ or Skype?
Wolf
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Amazing.
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Originally posted by Lizking
Good video, but the reporter had quite the slant to his views, eh.
How so?
Originally posted by Gixer
BBC World is good to watch, Fox is just too painfull beyond belief one wonders if they are even covering the same story as the other networks.
And what's with Fox & Friends, they were selling their new calender last night. What kind of moron buys a calender of them other then a few of Bush's staff? LOL
...-Gixer
I thought it was typicaly excellent BBC stuff...
Fox's presenters would no doubt would've editorialized it in their own particular craptastic way
Tronsky