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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: beemer on December 12, 2004, 09:35:03 AM
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Heard you still alive and well.
Was there no internet in Europe.
This smells
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I thought he died a few years ago :confused:
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He did, about 2 years ago.:(
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Thats what I thought too, but I was flying a sortie with him and a few other 412th yesterday??
:confused:
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Saw him all day yesterday. Was the other 7sinS in the same squad?
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I'd like to know myself :). But whatever the reason, glad to see him back. (and not dead)
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Originally posted by pugg666
I thought he died a few years ago :confused:
Apparently not---Midnight tells me its him.
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Apparently not---Midnight tells me its him.
Hmmmm.
So what's the story then?
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Someone tell us... I've been curious. :D
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7 has let Midnight know what transpired. We're leaving it up to 7 to share with the rest of the squad and community what all happened. We're glad to have him back. As bluemako says it ain't everyday that a squad can claim to have a member resurrected!
Tango, XO
412th FS Braunco Mustangs
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Wow, well thats good news I guess :)
Welcome back!
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Yes, Everyone, it is true. 7Sins is back in AH. Gladly, he was not killed in a car wreck, and is now back in the virtual skies of AH.
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Originally posted by dtango
7 has let Midnight know what transpired. We're leaving it up to 7 to share with the rest of the squad and community what all happened. We're glad to have him back. As bluemako says it ain't everyday that a squad can claim to have a member resurrected!
Tango, XO
412th FS Braunco Mustangs
Voss is going to be jealous , he only made it back from a scorpion bite and a brain tumor, making it back from death is excellent work. ;)
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Ehh?? (http://hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47348)
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another intardnet soup opera...
'Resurrected'? Is that what they call it?
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someone has alot of explaining to do :)
glad you're not dead whoever you are.
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"...Gladly, he was not killed in a car wreck, and is now back in the virtual skies of AH."
You gotta be kidding.
"another intardnet soup opera..."
To say the least.
Maybe after the accident they sewed him back together and now two years later he's able to "fly" amongst us like some FrankenVoss monster...
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Originally posted by Wotan
another intardnet soup opera...
Originally posted by Westy
To say the least.
Maybe after the accident they sewed him back together and now two years later he's able to "fly" amongst us like some FrankenVoss monster...
Let's not turn this into something it isn't (Westy / Wotan)
7Sins had nothing to do with the story of his absence from AH. That story was given from another source. Voss made up his own news and warrants the soap opera BS.
Let's just leave this as 7Sins is back and nothing more needs to be said.
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"Let's not turn this into something it isn't (Westy / Wotan) "
Huh? I didn't turn this into a goof, mockery or sham.
Faking ones death (or allowing the falsehood to propogate) and then "returning" like Lazerus from the grave or the long lost prodigal son?
Yeah. Let's not turn this into something it's not.
(p.s. I'm curious if anyone fell for this hoax and gave Rude money to help the "bereaved family")
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Originally posted by Midnight
...Let's just leave this as 7Sins is back and nothing more needs to be said.
You sure about that?
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I honestly couldn't care less about the whole subject matter.
I will add though that there's almost no place on earth where you can just dissappear without internet access. Don't tell me aliens nabbed him...
You have 3 pages of faux condolences and at least one post asking for money to aid the family of a 'fallen comrade'.
So yeah, let us not mock the suckers. That's far more important then say, faking a death...
But you are right we shouldn't make something out of nothing...:rolleyes:
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I'm not sure if you guys know what Rude does for a living... but he wouldn't be collecting money for himself.
If he asked for money, it was to give to the family as was stated.
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Maybe he is playing from "beyond the grave."
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"Tonight would be a regular night for many with the exception of the virtual pilots of Aces High....for tonight returns 7Sins...from...beyond...the.. ...grave..."
:eek:
:rofl
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I dont think anyone thinks that about Rude. Its the fact to raise money for a dead guys bereaved family. When deadguy is in fact not dead.
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I don't think anyone was implying that Rude was suggesting donating money for the guys family so he could keep it. I know I wasn't.
But I think I would have checked the dudes local paper for an obituary or an account of the accident, or contacted the family first.
I know if someone contacted my family offering condolences over my death they would at least let me know...
But I am am getting more into this episode then I care to.
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Westy would reply that he did not think Rude was scamming anyone but that the actions of one or more idjits was over the line and warrants an explination in his opinion.
But unfortunately he was killed in a feak accident by a Poptart and an out of control toaster oven this afternoon.
This is his, er, a fellow coworker. Yeah that's it. I worked with Westy.
We'll all miss him dearly. And right now the situation is ugly as they are still trying to scrape his remains off the break room floor. Sadly a shortage of spatula's and putty knives strong enough to pry flesh from tile is hampering recovery efforts.
Anyone who wishes to pass along an email or money or whatever may be needed to offer support for his family let me know by posting here.
Would a Paypal account with which to donate to his bereaved and mourning family (and friends) be convenient??
OMG I'm gonna have a cry again.............
(sobbing and wailing sounds...)
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Comeon guys...give it a rest. As we don't know the details I am not going to assume it was a scam...or intentional misleading. Knowing 7Sins from AW and having flowns rooks with him over the yrs I can tell you I don't think he is a person that would mislead.
Before you jump the guns, it's best to know all the facts about what happened to him and what's going on now. Until then, because of who 7Sins is I will respect him enough to not jump to silly conclusions.
And no, I don't know what happened to him either, but I am kinda curious.
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So... was there any money donated..and if so, where in fact did it go?
I'm not against any of the mustangs here, as I know them and they are good guys, but this is one of the only communities I've seen that mourns over the passing of one of its players. In fact, we see it on the boards quite often, I'd hate to see that stop because some folks have thoughts of a conspiracy on the brain...
I guess what I'm saying is, he doesn't HAVE to give us an excuse if he doesn't want to, but the fact that he came back under the same name after presumeably knowing that the community thought he was deceased would warrant an explanation, to the very least the people who posted close to 150 times expressing their regret on his "passing".
In the end, its up to him, but considering the company he resides in, I'm sure there is a good expanation abound.
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What Goth said.................
but don't tell Goth I agreed with him.
Zaphod
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Originally posted by Wotan
I will add though that there's almost no place on earth where you can just dissappear without internet access. Don't tell me aliens nabbed him
Oh there are a few...
Hospitals
Prisons
Various wards and institutions with nice young men in white coats
Skid Row
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Comeon guys...give it a rest. As we don't know the details I am not going to assume it was a scam...or intentional misleading. Knowing 7Sins from AW and having flowns rooks with him over the yrs I can tell you I don't think he is a person that would mislead.
Thats what I thought about MetaTron, saying he owned a mansion and was building a airstrip for teaching purposes. Got everyone he knew going about it. Maybe he wasnt lieing...probally was. Point is you cant trust anyone until you meet them in person and find out their real qualities, not some beefed up version to try to impress others.
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
Thats what I thought about MetaTron, saying he owned a mansion and was building a airstrip for teaching purposes. Got everyone he knew going about it. Maybe he wasnt lieing...probally was. Point is you cant trust anyone until you meet them in person and find out their real qualities, not some beefed up version to try to impress others.
Heheh,
I got a kick out of the 17 year old kid here in California who scammed a million or so out of people using a Yahoo account and posing as a financial advisor.
Anyway, unless you contributed money to this guy's memorial fund, what does it really matter anyway? Should be an interesting story, death doesn't leave a lot of room to flip-flop.
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Where the marines? I found some insurgent player.
:aok
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Originally posted by Howitzer
So... was there any money donated..and if so, where in fact did it go?
I'm not against any of the mustangs here, as I know them and they are good guys, but this is one of the only communities I've seen that mourns over the passing of one of its players. In fact, we see it on the boards quite often, I'd hate to see that stop because some folks have thoughts of a conspiracy on the brain...
I guess what I'm saying is, he doesn't HAVE to give us an excuse if he doesn't want to, but the fact that he came back under the same name after presumeably knowing that the community thought he was deceased would warrant an explanation, to the very least the people who posted close to 150 times expressing their regret on his "passing".
In the end, its up to him, but considering the company he resides in, I'm sure there is a good expanation abound.
i dont know him, nor of his death, so my opinion does not count for much.
but.
the fact that he returned under the same name would suggest to me he didnt intend to mislead or confuse. had he come back under a different name then it could be assumed he was hiding from the past.
i say, welcome back 7sins, glad to see you're not really dead.
(PS: if i died, would anyone send money to my family? :D)
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WTF!?!?! 7Sins is alive?
Ok, now I'm confused... the last time I flew with him was a week before he was 'killed' in the car accident (we were with the 13th TAS then). I tried calling him (had his phone number), left a voice mail asking if it was true, for him to call me back. Got no call.
If he's alive, then it's stunning and wonderful.
But if he's dead, and someone is faking his return, I will not be happy with this. I lost a good friend.
Cough up the details Midnight. I'm curious.
Fork (vruth)
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Cough up the details Midnight. I'm curious
What he said.
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(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/64_1103049505_coke_popcorn.jpg)
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You guys make me laugh. What makes any of you think that I am going to give any details to anyone? I was asked not to, and I have no intention of going against 7Sins wishes. The details are his to give if he so desires.
What I will say is that the story provided to the community stating that 7Sins was killed in an auto accident was not of his making and he was unaware of it being told.
I don't know when 7Sins found out about the story, but I do know that I had not heard from him until he left a message on the 412th BBS at http://www.brauncomustangs.com a few weeks ago.
Anyway, he's back now and isn't asking anyone for anything, so why some of you feel the need to make comparisons to other players and scams and lies is just beyond me.
I guess it's too bad Westy has died though. I never got to call him an stunninghunk to his face, even though he lives in the next town over from me.
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If you can show a lack of class on a video game BBS ( and I am not sure you can), then to just pop back in two years later with no explanation after knowing full well that a good many people assumed you were dead would certainly do it.
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Eureka!
I'm not really dead and yet I cannot divulge to any of you the circumstances that that may have lead any of you to believe I was.
Any_who. ....
Midnight! You're channeling SLO.
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let me guess. wife ack cancelled his account, made up the story, then told him the PC was broken? :)
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Originally posted by Westy
Midnight! You're channeling SLO.
What the heck is that supposed to mean?
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(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/64_1103060125_movietreats.jpg)
I'm set. now if one of you'd be so kind as to get me another coke?
Diet, of course.
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Need some snow caps too...
And more liquid "butter" on my popcorn.
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It's hard to believe so many people here would act like they are in regards to this subject. I never knew 7Sins when he was said to have been killed. One thing I do know just from what he has said on vox and on our boards is that he's embarrassed of what happenend. He in no way had anything to do with what was said nor did he even know it was said to start off with. I don't know when he found out about what had been said about him.
If anyone has any real issues with the situation then ask him directly. The people that have no class are the ones who are making this subject a total community soap opera. If you guys consider yourselves to be that close to 7Sins then I'm sure he'd be willing to let you know privately. To bring this to the boards is not only childish but rude. The only thing you are accomplishing is pissing people off and probably making 7Sins even less willing to tell anyone about what transpired, even those he may have felt he was close to.
It's as Mechanic said earlier it's obvious he wasn't trying to hide anything knowing full well what had been said about him after the fact. If he wanted to hide anything he would have just changed his name and only notified those he wanted to. Some of you are trying to make this thing into a story line you'd find off the movies or in a book (Person fakes death, takes advantage of mourners, lives high life for years, and poof back to life). Maybe some of you should get out some and stop watching so many movies. We've also got the typical AH hecklers joining into the subject that have absolutely nothing to add other than showing they really wish they had friends and wanna stand out in the crowd. Guess these guys would fit into Furiouss' little class act comment. So tell me again who's the class act here?
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It's great to see 7SinS back, I always liked that guy!
Midnight, your new website design is fantastic! When did you transform that badboy?
Cya Up!
Dawg
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Originally posted by Cobra412
If anyone has any real issues with the situation then ask him directly.
give me your BBS sig 7sins and i'll give you access to our board soes yu can post your story.
TAS needs to know.
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Originally posted by Cobra412
It's hard to believe so many people here would act like they are in regards to this subject. I never knew 7Sins when he was said to have been killed. One thing I do know just from what he has said on vox and on our boards is that he's embarrassed of what happenend. He in no way had anything to do with what was said nor did he even know it was said to start off with. I don't know when he found out about what had been said about him.
If anyone has any real issues with the situation then ask him directly. The people that have no class are the ones who are making this subject a total community soap opera. If you guys consider yourselves to be that close to 7Sins then I'm sure he'd be willing to let you know privately. To bring this to the boards is not only childish but rude. The only thing you are accomplishing is pissing people off and probably making 7Sins even less willing to tell anyone about what transpired, even those he may have felt he was close to.
It's as Mechanic said earlier it's obvious he wasn't trying to hide anything knowing full well what had been said about him after the fact. If he wanted to hide anything he would have just changed his name and only notified those he wanted to. Some of you are trying to make this thing into a story line you'd find off the movies or in a book (Person fakes death, takes advantage of mourners, lives high life for years, and poof back to life). Maybe some of you should get out some and stop watching so many movies. We've also got the typical AH hecklers joining into the subject that have absolutely nothing to add other than showing they really wish they had friends and wanna stand out in the crowd. Guess these guys would fit into Furiouss' little class act comment. So tell me again who's the class act here?
Don't know the guy, guess it's better he's still alive, but again, I don't know him, so can't really say whether I'd prefer he be alive or not.
But I do know, if that happened to me , I'd take care of who started that, then I'd issue an apology to everyone who posted back then. Maybe he's doin that, bravo.
The real Ah0le is whoever started that story without asking him, had to be someone on his end.
my 2 c
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Don't know the guy, guess it's better he's still alive, but again, I don't know him, so can't really say whether I'd prefer he be alive or not.
What kind of ignorant BS is this? Guess that'd be the same as the Americans saying the same watermelon about Canadians.
He's dealing with who started it.
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oops wrong thread, sorry
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Originally posted by Cobra412
What kind of ignorant BS is this? Guess that'd be the same as the Americans saying the same watermelon about Canadians.
He's dealing with who started it.
It sounds harsher than it was meant, ease up bronco Billy.
And I'm glad he's gettin the person. Isn't there a law against that?
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Originally posted by airbumba
And I'm glad he's gettin the person. Isn't there a law against that?
several, especially when lethal force is involved.
:eek:
:aok
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"who's the class act here?"
Furious used it in the right context. I think it's a hoot you on the other hand tried flip the concept of "class" to fit your purpose.
"Class" is a measure of a person(S) character and quality. To indicate one has it they must warrant respect while they themselve exhibit a considerable level of honesty, dignity and polish.
Taking into account what "class" means I can say without a doubt that you and 7sins are running a heavy deficit.
Midnight, I reference SLO as an example of someone who defended the undefendable and by doing so he made his position untennable and the situation worse. He helped created a carnival atmosphere where upon he and the Vosstitute became the "gotta hit to win" targets. Not sure what I refer to? Look for the monster topic on Voss/Metatron from several months ago. IMO (not that you would ask for it but I'm an stunninghunk so you're gonna hear it) but you'd have been far better off not posting anything than putting up a substanceless defense of what is a a most embarrasing situation for 7sins, 13TAS and whoever is behind this "joke."
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Voss conspiricy (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=123551&perpage=50&pagenumber=1)
Bring a lunch along.
This does sound like a whole diffrent ballgame tho.Voss set out to con people.7 didnt.
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Thats so last year this is the exciting new chapter in the AH bbs soap opera
Revenge from beyond the grave
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Westy wrote:
"Class" is a measure of a person(S) character and quality. To indicate one has it they must warrant respect while they themselve exhibit a considerable level of honesty, dignity and polish. Taking into account what "class" means I can say without a doubt that you and 7sins are running a heavy deficit.
Alright all - let's get off this line of thought. This serves nothing more than to incite vs. having a rational discussion.
The entire subject should not have been brought up in a public forum to begin with. There was no malicious attempt to con the AH community for anyone's personal gain. It's a personal matter for the folks involved. Let's leave it at that.
Tango, XO
412th FS Braunco Mustangs
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Originally posted by Westy
... Taking into account what "class" means I can say without a doubt that you and 7sins are running a heavy deficit...
Westy, the lack of class is yours. In what way has 7Sins not shown class here? As I mentioned, HE had nothing to do with the story that was told, so why should he have to appologize or explain it?
Let's just say hypothetically that person A was not going to be available for a while for whatever reason. While A is gone, person B spreads a story that A has died, all the while A is not aware of this. Eventually, A becomes available again and finds out about what transpired in thier absense. Why should A then have to tell anyone where they were or what they were doing... it's no one's business.
For all we know, 7Sins could have fallen into a coma and been the victim some sort of identy theft or con-scam. (That's not what happened, but why would that be his fault or responsibility to tell anyone if it were the actual reason?)
The true villian in this story is the person who originally spread the story of the death. That is the person you clowns should be chastising, not 7Sins. And perhaps there are security or other reasons that prevent 7Sins from devulging any information to the general population of gossip floozies in here.
Originally posted by Westy
Midnight, I reference SLO as an example of someone who defended the undefendable and by doing so he made his position untennable and the situation worse.....
.... but you'd have been far better off not posting anything than putting up a substanceless defense of what is a a most embarrasing situation for 7sins, 13TAS and whoever is behind this "joke."
Westy, as I stated before, Voss deserved the bad press he recieved, because it was HE that fabricated the stories of his adventures. So, perhaps you are correct about SLO defending the undefendable.
However, as I also stated, 7Sins had nothing to do with the story told, nor with any relief efforts intended to collect money or other compensation of grief from anyone.
Lastly, if you recall, the person who started this story had claimed to be a relative of 7Sins, so there was no reason why anyone here would have been prompted to contact his family to confirm the story.
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A person disappeared .. another said he was dead .. no response from this person so assumed true.
Person shows up again and not aware people claimed he was dead. Doesn't want to talk about the reasons for his disappearance.
Could be many reasons for disappearance. Could have been in jail, could have been in a rehab program, etc., etc. which probably wouldn't want to talk about either.
And possibly he is contacting people privately like Midnight and Rude to explain.
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So, if he kicks the bucket (again), would there be a second memorial? Or would the first memorial just be punted to the top? Somebody better ask Abby.....
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Well said Ghostdancer
welcome back 7sins, glad it wasn't true.
regards
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Apparently some of you adding your $.02 is not actually interested in THE AH community. Some of the comments made only prove that in fact, they are the Soap Opera Stars. Sad, really. But I for one am glad that 7 is back playing, as well as ignoring this post.
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Well said Black Sheep.
Welcome Back 7sins
:aok
*It was a dark and stormy night........slowly I turned.......*
:D
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Where's lazs? We need his expert opinion on whether or not 7Sins represents a case of mistaken diagnosis or is, in fact, a zombie.
I'm bringing along my shotgun just in case.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Wow 7sins has been gone awhile, glad he's back anywho.
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Unless you know different let him be.
geesh!
ZABE
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Sorry double post.
Zabe
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Zabe he is a revenge driven zombie who will attempt to kill us all.
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salt!! grains of salt kill zombies!! and rumors.
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Welp, Rude reported it, are we going to fry him in the nose grease collected from 1000 cackling old biddies?
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Originally posted by Lizard3
Welp, Rude reported it, are we going to fry him in the nose grease collected from 1000 cackling old biddies?
yeech, bad visual