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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Chairboy on December 13, 2004, 07:46:05 PM
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Reposted from rec.aviation.piloting:
Iwan Bogels Dec 13, 2:40 pm
On November 4, 1979, Iranian militants stormed the United States Embassy in
Tehran and took approximately seventy Americans captive. This terrorist act
lasted 444 days and during this period the US tried to think of several ways
to set the hostages free.
One revolutionary idea was to land a C-130 Hercules at a soccer field near
the hostage site and set the hostages free with military force. As a soccer
field in the middle of a city is virtually impossible to use as a landing
site, the USAF had to make drastic conversions to their aircraft in order to
even think of a chance of success.
The result was the "Credible Sport" project, in which four regular C-130H
aircraft were converted into YMC-130H specials with ESTOL (Extremely Short
Take Off and Landing) capabilities. In order to achieve the ultra short
landing and take-off, several rockets had to be installed to force the
aircraft to a quick stop and get it back airborne with a full load of people
within 300 feet. It was determined that 180,000 of thrust, equal to nearly
20 times the C-130's standard turboprop engines, would be required to get a
C-130 off in the length of a soccer field and over the surrounding
obstructions. The plane would be 300 feet in the air after traveling 300
feet forward and with a take off roll of just 100 feet.
Forward pointing rockets were installed to provide reverse thrust during
landing, as well as downward pointed rockets to cushon the landing. In order
to bring such a heavy aircraft to a quick stop, the amount of rocket power
was unprecedented. Needless to say that this aircraft had to be tested
before it could be used in action, and unfortunately the first test flight
did not go as planned.
See the test for yourself at http://www.dappa.nl/crash.htm
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why did it need to take off agian? weren't the US troops supposed to neutraliza the terrorists?
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Originally posted by spitfiremkv
why did it need to take off agian? weren't the US troops supposed to neutraliza the terrorists?
possibly the dumbest statement I have seen posted in awhile.
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I don't think colonization was part of the plan, Sparky.
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He just doesn't know his history. Don't confuse stupidity with ignorance.
Well, here's HOPING it's just ignorance.
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I remember it well.....I was a freshman in HS when the helicopter resue attempt was made.
I remember being very pissed and sad that some of our guys died the way they did in the mission, but I was also happy that we had at finally done SOMETHING to try to get them out.
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Originally posted by spitfiremkv
why did it need to take off agian? weren't the US troops supposed to neutraliza the terrorists?
:rofl :rofl :rofl
after "neutraliza the terrorists" they can take a bus back to US of A, right?
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I assumed they were held hostages in the embassy.
In which case, yeah they could have taken a bus to the airport, same way embassy personel normaly returns to the US.
I assume saving lives would outweigh losing a C130.
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Originally posted by spitfiremkv
why did it need to take off agian? weren't the US troops supposed to neutraliza the terrorists?
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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Originally posted by spitfiremkv
I assumed they were held hostages in the embassy.
In which case, yeah they could have taken a bus to the airport, same way embassy personel normaly returns to the US.
I assume saving lives would outweigh losing a C130.
Ignorance is Bliss.
:rofl
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I wasn't even born in 1979, so ya'all suck my oversized and full of white fluid balls
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Wow, those C-130 test pilots earned their pay that month.
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Spit...read and you will enlightened (http://www.bartleby.com/65/ir/Iranhost.html)
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Ignorance is also unnecessary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis)
....see what happens when you leave a window open and actually do work? 3-4 replies sneek-in in front of you.
Also, if you hadn't been born and had no idea what you were commenting on, then it was kinda stupid to have said anything, wasn't it?
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It will certainly make the study of History easier if you only have to learn it from the date of your birth.
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I suppose we can now say that Spit is doomed to repeat history?
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Canada to the rescue:D
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I hope the air crew survived that crash. I've seen a C-130 take off with RATOs and it was a sight. Never seen one land in 300 ft though.
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Sometime after the Russians rolled into Afghanistan, a political cartoon about the hostages in Iran was published in my local newspaper.
It showed two Russian tanks sitting on a mountain in Afghanistan next to a road sign with Tehran marked on it. One Russian tank commander says to the other,
“Hey Ivan, Let’s go spring the hostages.”
That cartoon was taped to the inside top of my toolbox for years. Think I finally took it down before the first Gulf War. If the Russian Army had sprung the hostages, it would have been all right with me.
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Russians did free some hostages. The Iranians took a few Russians as hostages in the crisis. The KGB went out and found the Mothers of each Terrorist. They sent each terrorist a picture of their mother and one hand. The Russians were released that day.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Russians did free some hostages. The Iranians took a few Russians as hostages in the crisis. The KGB went out and found the Mothers of each Terrorist. They sent each terrorist a picture of their mother and one hand. The Russians were released that day.
That sounds too good to be true, any evidence?