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Title: Things to aviod in the former Soviet Union.
Post by: VWE on December 17, 2004, 02:07:37 PM: I'd say Airshows (http://www.flightlevel350.com/mediatemp/3-1102000793-154.wvx) for starters. 80 killed in this doosey...
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Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on December 17, 2004, 02:08:40 PM: Direct link, right click save as (http://www3.flightlevel350.com/~admin1/photos/19/1102000793-154.wmv)

Haven't watched it yet.
-SW
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Post by: AWMac on December 17, 2004, 02:10:23 PM: Holy Chit!!!!

:(
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Post by: Charon on December 17, 2004, 02:16:25 PM: That's terrifying and terrible. Talk about ****ting your pants.

Charon
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Post by: Curval on December 17, 2004, 02:18:05 PM: Haven't watched this yet...but the other thing you should avoid is dioxin impregnated food and/or drink.
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Post by: Gunslinger on December 17, 2004, 02:19:20 PM: WTF were they doing that low to the ground? Looks like at least one of the pilots made it out.
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Post by: AWMac on December 17, 2004, 02:21:28 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Curval
Haven't watched this yet...but the other thing you should avoid is dioxin impregnated food and/or drink.

They said it was the same stuff as Agent Orange.....

So when he farts, the grass dies right?
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Post by: CyranoAH on December 17, 2004, 02:21:31 PM: The explosion towards the end of the video looks like the ejection seats firing

Daniel
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Post by: ra on December 17, 2004, 02:23:43 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Curval
Haven't watched this yet...but the other thing you should avoid is dioxin impregnated food and/or drink.

There's no such problem. But you have to watch that bad sushi.
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Post by: Gunslinger on December 17, 2004, 02:29:30 PM: Quote
Originally posted by CyranoAH
The explosion towards the end of the video looks like the ejection seats firing

Daniel

It's that and a mix of other explosians. I can't tell wich one is punching out first but if it is the Forward seat then the back seater is a dead man.
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Post by: GRUNHERZ on December 17, 2004, 02:34:50 PM: I have never seen footage of this accident from this angle. I cant imagine what those people felt...

I seem to remember that both crew punched out and lived - so file it under yet another spectacular demonstration of the K36 seat...

:(
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Post by: indy007 on December 17, 2004, 02:35:01 PM: Looked like the backseater punched out first. Makes you wonder how that stuff happens. Airshows around here don't permit the aircraft to fly over the audience at all.
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Post by: Boroda on December 17, 2004, 02:48:11 PM: Didn't see the video, is it a Lvov catastrophe with a Su-27 hitting the crowd?

You can make a search on this BBS, keywords "boroda lvov airshow pilot". It was discussed here after it hapened.

Their security measures were awful. But nevertheless here in Russia they cancelled aerobatic programm on several shows... :(
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Post by: Red Tail 444 on December 17, 2004, 03:00:44 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Gunslinger
It's that and a mix of other explosians. I can't tell wich one is punching out first but if it is the Forward seat then the back seater is a dead man.

Why's that? I think you work on fighter seats (or something like that)

Hope they both made it, and that the folkls on the ground...died really really fast...poor batages
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Post by: mora on December 17, 2004, 03:15:17 PM: They both survived.
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Post by: Otto on December 17, 2004, 04:27:30 PM: He wasn't that close to the ground on purpose. Something had to have happened prior to this. Maybe coming out of a loop to low and entering a 'high speed stall' and drifting into the crowd as he tried to regain control.

For the brief time you see it the plane it looks to be more 'out' of, than 'in', control and basily flying in Ground Effect.

May those that died RIP....
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Post by: Gunslinger on December 17, 2004, 05:59:25 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Red Tail 444
Why's that? I think you work on fighter seats (or something like that)

Hope they both made it, and that the folkls on the ground...died really really fast...poor batages

On a single canopy A/C the Back Seater almost allways has to go first. If the Fwd pilot punches first his rocket catapult will completly scorch the aft cockpit making the backseater have an even worse day.

The Delay on a 2 seat F16 is 0.33 seconds. In most cases the seats can go solo but its not advisable.