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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Vudak on December 19, 2004, 06:41:23 PM
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(According to a book I bought at a British equavalent of CVS for 1 pound)
- two 20mm cannon & four .303 mgs
- 105 Mk I and 95 Mk II models built
- a whopping maximum speed of 305 mph
- what looks to be a terrible rear view
- says it has "good low-level agility"
.... I'd fly it :)
Did this actually see any combat at all or was it only used for training purposes?
This books pretty cool actually, nothing fancy though. Each page is devoted to a different plane, over 600 in total. It's called "Fighting Aircraft of the World", and for basically $2, I couldn't go wrong.
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It saw combat. Mostly as a support aircraft, but some air-to-air as well.
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Id also love to fly this plane, And always hoped it would be modeled one day down the track. There have been several posts about this subject before, yet usually gets hijacked somewhere along the way with what plane someone else would like to see in the game. Maybe its time to get your money out of those plans pyro; we've been waiting patiently since you posted that in Feb. 2002
I bought some out of print references that I stumbled across on the Boomerang awhile back. I plan to get my money out of them someday but I doubt it will be anytime soon.
a couple pics of a flying boomerang
boomerang1 (http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/583_1097991259_boomerang.jpg.62525)
boomerang2 (http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/583_1097991171_boomerang1.jpg.38985)
Lj
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Ahhhhh...no
DAP Beaufighter Mk21 for Aussie made
Tronsky
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Thanks for the pics, LSJ, that is a really sharp plane. I'd definately give it some time if they modelled it down the road.
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i think it would be worse than useless...
Aussie Beaufighter? now THAT would be awesome. P-38 like firepower + 3 hispano's LOL
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Originally posted by Furball
i think it would be worse than useless...
Aussie Beaufighter? now THAT would be awesome. P-38 like firepower + 3 hispano's LOL
they cant really add much that isnt completly useless...
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Originally posted by Furball
i think it would be worse than useless...
Aussie Beaufighter? now THAT would be awesome. P-38 like firepower + 3 hispano's LOL
A less capable Mossie.
That said, add it.
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I geuss not all of us feal the need to be in the most capable plane, Or to keep addin these later war monsters. That said id say there are several other planes already as useless or worse.
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There was a post somewhere of HiTech mentioning that he had Data on the Boomerang. I'm not sure if he was joking or not.
-Sik
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Well, the Mossie surely outperforms the Beau, no dispute.
Except perhaps in ruggedness. But that may be an AH issue.
Still, the Beau came earlier (Scenarios and such), and carries a torpedoe if needed.
Bear in mind that when the Beau was airborne, the US had not entered the war, the most dangerous daylight opponent was a 109E, and in spring 1941 the thing was flying with radar at night.
4 Hizookas, a variety of ordnance, and what, 316 mph?
Some planes could be traided out for that.
Go jump a CV from far with a torp, you still have a deadly nosepack after launching....
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'twas a North American AT-6 derivative and it turned like a frightened angel. It saw service with 5 Aussie and 2 Kiwi squadrons in New Guinea and it aquitted itself well enough as our highly competent and competetive Australian cousins always do.
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ZERO BAIT - plain and simple. :rolleyes:
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I guess the Zeros would have something to zoom But i believe they didn’t like to tangle with the boomers because of there agility and swift low level climb. That being a reason why they where adapted to support roles. The enemy where known to run, A squadron also claim to have chased a few betty bombers away also. Everyone says its not competitive and it wouldn’t be if your the type to Boom n Zoom but i could see some fun to be had in a furball. An aussie modified beu would be nice but a fully built Australian ride would be the best.
ps... Who do I need to bribe an how much
:rolleyes:
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Boomerang would be a neat and unique addition. If HTC has the needed data it would be a fun aircraft for Pacific setups.
So would the Beaufighter.
My point about the Beaufighter wasn't that we don't need it because the Mossie is better it was that comparing it to a P-38 is a used car salesman tactic. The P-38 makes the Mossie look like crap and the Mossie is better than the Beau. The firepower on the Beau is most accurately compared to the Mossie and the role is as well.
I'd advert it as an early war Mossie that is much tougher.
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Oh, and if we ever have NIGHT, or a NIGHT zone, there would be a place for the Beau, the Mossie, 110, Ju88 and many many bombers.
HTC would have to model some radar before, but I bet it is nothing they can't do if they choose.
Was flying a sim online with some crude radar on a 486 some 10 years ago...
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Although HTC has said no new plane development until post-CT makes this an absurd time to bump this, I figured I'd do it anyway :D
It just looks so purdy :) check out those pix, they're still available :aok
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Originally posted by Jester
ZERO BAIT - plain and simple. :rolleyes:
Zero killer:aok
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Boomerang and the I-16 would be interesting
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Originally posted by Jester
ZERO BAIT - plain and simple. :rolleyes:
BUT ITS SOOO CUTE!!! I WANT TO HUG IT!!
(http://avia.russian.ee/pictures/australia/common_boomerang.jpg)
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Originally posted by SMIDSY
BUT ITS SOOO CUTE!!! I WANT TO HUG IT!!
(http://avia.russian.ee/pictures/australia/common_boomerang.jpg)
It is... but that russian I-16 with the ram-jet is cuter!!! But yeah, it seems like a nice plane. Any more pictures?
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Originally posted by Reynolds
It is... but that russian I-16 with the ram-jet is cuter!!! But yeah, it seems like a nice plane. Any more pictures?
why yes!
(http://www.ne.jp/asahi/airplane/museum/cl-pln8/images18/BOOMERANG.jpg)
(http://www.goana.com.au/Gossips/Gossip29/images/Boomerangs.jpg)
want some more punk? sure thing!!! QUAH QUAH QUAH!!!!
(http://www.aeroplaneart.com.au/Images/JSJ_Commwealth_CA_12_Boomerang.jpg)
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Originally posted by Vudak
Although HTC has said no new plane development until post-CT makes this an absurd time to bump this, I figured I'd do it anyway :D
It just looks so purdy :) check out those pix, they're still available :aok
Don't worry about the bump, Vudak -- everyone expects a Boomerang to keep coming back......
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That is a WIERD looking aircraft...
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(http://www.airventure.de/aia2005pics/aia05_boomerang_1012b.jpg)
(http://www.adf-serials.com/gallery/albums/Boomerang-A46-122/GA_2A46_122.jpg)
and some more stubby australians
(http://www.australianexplorer.com/photographs/other/v_b.jpg)
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Nice Photo's Debonair, of the boomerang as well :)
Just got a book last week, which dealt in some part with the boomerangs. They spent most of their time marking for artillery and fighter/bombers.
They also spent a lot of time trying to avoid being shot down by their Allies.
I am quoting from the book here, one boomerang was set upon by a p38 flown by a well know American ace (not named) and was so badly shot up that he forced landed and got out without a scratch. The aircraft burnt . The 38 driver returned to base, and promptly painted an aussie flag on his victory tally. He was forced to remove it some time later due to some ill will it created .
Soon after all allied aircraft were ordered to paint their tail section white to avoid such incidences.
60 years removed I can see the funny side, but I guess it wasn't a joking matter in those days.
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Origin:Comonwealth aircraft Corperation, Austrailia.
Engine:1,200Hp Pratt&Whitney R-1830-S3C4G Twin Wasp 14-Cylinder Two-Row radial.
Dimentions:Span 36Ft 3in (11m); Length 25Ft 6in (7-77m);Height 11Ft 6in (3-5m)
Wights:Empty 5,450Lb (2474Kg) Loaded 7,600Lb (3450kg)
Performance: Max speed 296Mph (474Km/h) : Service ceiling 29,000Ft (8845m) : Range at 190Mph (304Km/h) 930miles (1490Km)
Armament:Normaly two hispano 20mm and four 0-303in browning machineguns in wings.
History:First flight 29 may 1942; first delivery August 1942; Final deliveries Early 1944.
User's:Austrailia.
All the info i got.
Imageing a slow p40,with 20mm that can turn better than a zeke!
and unlike the zeke,wont tear apart like rice paper.
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Originally posted by BaDkaRmA158Th
Imageing a slow p40,with 20mm that can turn better than a zeke!
and unlike the zeke,wont tear apart like rice paper.
Hmmm!! Sounds good to me, bring it. We just might have another base defender, or a Vulch Queen in the works for the MA.
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For the PAC the Japanese also need some aircraft to fill in (Oscar and Nate).
That would give new life to Hurry I, P40, F4F, and then call for P38F, P39 and the Boomerang ;)
Same goes with bombers. Betty, Mavis, B25, etc etc.
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(http://www.jaapteeuwen.com/ww2aircraft/pictures/jpg/COMMONWEALTH%20BOOMERANG.JPG)
(http://www.aarg.com.au/images/BoomerangCA-12lge.gif) (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0b/Boomerang_%28AWM_0408%29.jpg) (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c5/Boomerang_4sqn_%28AWM_PO2531.013%29.jpg)
(http://www.adf-serials.com/gallery/albums/Boomerang-A46-3/JP_2A46_3.jpg) (http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/Hopton/4849.jpg)
(http://jnpassieux.chez-alice.fr/images/Boomerang.jpg)
COMMONWEALTH BOOMERANG - Single-seat 'stop-gap' fighter initiated late 1941 to make good RAAF's foreseen lack of imported fighters of better performance. Design based on using components of Wirraway trainer, combined with 1,200 hp Pratt & Whitney R-1830-S3C4-G radial engine and two-speed supercharger.
Initial five CA-12 aircraft built early 1942, followed by first production batch of 100 ordered February 1942. First CA-12 flown May 29, 1942, and deliveries began July 1942. Further production comprised 95 CA-13, delivered from August 1943, 49 CA-19, delivered from May 1944, and single CA-14, making total of 250 by early 1945.
Differences between variants minor.
CA-12 Boomerang Mk I; The first single-seat fighter version, 105 built
CA-13 Boomerang Mk II; Improved version of the CA-12, 95 built
CA-14; One aircraft fitted with a turbo-supercharged engine, did not enter production.
CA-14A; The CA-14 prototype was later modified to have a square tail & rudder.
CA-19 Boomarang Mk II; Tactical reconnaissance variant with a single vertical camera in the fuselage, 49 built .
Armament comprised eight 0.303-in (7.7-mm) Browning guns in first five CA-12s, changed to four Brownings with two 20-mm Hispano cannon in production aircraft. CA-13s had metal (instead of fabric) covered ailerons and CA-19s had single F.24 camera in rear fuselage for tac-R role. Single CA-14 had General Electric B-2 turbo-supercharger in rear starboard fuselage side and R-1830-S1C3-G engine;
It first flew on January 13, 1943. Boomerangs entered service at 2 OTU late 1942, and flew operationally with Nos 4 (August 1943 - August 1945), 5 (November 1943 - August 1946), 83 (September 1943 - August 1945), 84 (April 1943 - October 1943) and 85 (May 1943 - January 1945) Sqns. Of these, Nos 4, 5 and 84 saw service against Japanese forces in New Guinea and Borneo; other two squadrons remained in Australia.
Max speed, 305 mph (491 km/h) at 15,500 ft (4,724 m). Cruising speed, 190 mph (305 km/h) at 15,000 ft (4,572 m). Rate of climb, 2,940 ftlmin (14.9 mlsec). Time to 25,000ft (7,620 m), 13.2 min. Service ceiling, 34,000 ft (10,363 m). Range (internal fuel), 930 mis (1,496 km). Range (drop tank), 1,600 mis (2,575 km). Empty weight, 5,373 Ib (2,437kg). Gross weight, 7,699 Ib (3,492 kg). Max overload, 8,249 Ib (3,742 kg). Span, 36 ft 0 in (10.97 m). Length, 25 ft 6 in (7.77 m). Wing area, 225 sqfi (20.90 m2).
History of the 27 year Restoration of the Boomer "Suzy-Q".
http://boomerang-flight.com/
Air Show Pix of the Restored "Milingimbi Ghost".
http://www.kiwiaircraftimages.com/boomer.html
http://www.classicfighters.co.nz/ac/boomerang/index.shtml
History of All Production Boomerrangs
http://www.adf-serials.com/2a46.shtml
Details of the Inner Workings of a Boomer.
http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/ca12bg_1.htm
Chart on Performance Capabilities of the Boomer
http://uncleted.jinak.cz/pdf/ca12.pdf
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i think it would be worse than useless...
1- Furball, No offense but on behalf of all Aussies EAT ME....
2- The dam thing went from the drawing board to the air in 21 weeks...
3- Someone posted a vid of the boomerang in flight and it sounds great...
4- If HTC ever model it I will personally use it as my sole MA ride for 1 year just to make sure the dam thing gets some use....
Note: Supa I expect properly modeled beer cans on the floor and the associated sound effect as they roll around during flight...
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Aussie's At War
(http://members.optusnet.com.au/vstrom/pics/boomer.jpg)
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Originally posted by Furball
i think it would be worse than useless...
Tell that to the Aussie Pilots that actually Chased Off Bomber Formations, were credited w/ Assists when they 1st were introduced when they were so Desperately needed on the Front Lines, performed their final role as FAO & Ground Attack on Nip troops w/ great success.
If the Boomer would've had an Up-graded engine w/ the added H.P., She'd have excelled as an Intercepter.