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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Kev367th on December 21, 2004, 09:08:10 AM
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1) Allied aircraft that flew the most operational missions?
2) First twin engined plane to land on a CV?
Answers later.
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1: F for Freddie, a DH Mosquito with 213 sorties?
2: DH Mosquito again (LR359)?
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Correct - On both.
F-Freddie was LR103
The Smithsonian claims a Martin B-26B on display as having the highest number of allied sorties, 202. (But they would, wouldn't they)
Obvioulsy they are WRONG.
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Wonder what allied pilot flew most combat sorties...
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Originally posted by Angus
Wonder what allied pilot flew most combat sorties...
Allied fighter combat sorties by Pyotr Andreyvich Pilyutov 1,945. (41 to 45)
Flew thru out the GPW as well as the Russo/fin war (not counted in above) and latterly jets .
Retired in 1955 with a total of 8,788 sorties (presumably not all "combat")
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Originally posted by Tilt
Retired in 1955 with a total of 8,788 sorties (presumably not all "combat")
That's the kind of guy that typically dies in a comercial flight accident. Statistics have a way of catching up with you. ;)
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2) First twin engined plane to land on a CV?
3)First (pure) jet to land on a carrier? What 2 things do these events have in common?
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Originally posted by GScholz
That's the kind of guy that typically dies in a comercial flight accident. Statistics have a way of catching up with you. ;)
died of heart attack
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Originally posted by justin_g
3)First (pure) jet to land on a carrier? What 2 things do these events have in common?
DeHavilland Vampire December 4th 1945, same Manufacturer as the Mossie ?
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None of this surprises me, considering the British were so far ahead of eveyone else in CV design. Armored decks, angled decks, steam catapults, visual landing systems--all British inventions. Too bad that later liberal governments gutted the RN.
shubie
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Originally posted by Furball
DeHavilland Vampire December 4th 1945, same Manufacturer as the Mossie ?
Got one of the two right. The other is the pilot: Captain Eric Brown CBE, DSC, AFC, RN.
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Originally posted by rshubert
None of this surprises me, considering the British were so far ahead of eveyone else in CV design. Armored decks, angled decks, steam catapults, visual landing systems--all British inventions. Too bad that later liberal governments gutted the RN.
shubie
I think "gutted the RN" is perhaps a misnomer. You had an empire back then remember? Your current navy is in fact huge for a nation of your size.
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Originally posted by GScholz
I think "gutted the RN" is perhaps a misnomer. You had an empire back then remember? Your current navy is in fact huge for a nation of your size.
I think he was referring to the disbanding of the old Royal Navy big conventional CV's and replacing them with helicopter CV's.
If the RN had a big conventional CV in the Falklands i am sure we wouldn't have lost 1/2 the shipping that we did. Harriers did a fantastic job, but they were too few in numbers and basically had to fly round the clock day and night.
(http://www.boeing.com/companyoffices/gallery/images/f4/c12-1389-11.jpg)
we are getting 2 new carriers for the JSF.
http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/static/pages/1971.html
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Great Idea!!
The RN should have a modern, strike capable fleet.
I agree that the harriers did a credible job during the Falklands but they were just not enough to be able to counter the Argentine threat sufficiently. Had the Argies been sold additional exocets by the French (they only had 8 missiles at the start of the confrontation) the outcome for England would have been much different I suspect. The ability to really reach out and touch someone is lacking in the current RN inventory. Imagine having to send Vulcans 8000 miles 1 way to knock out some FHs and VHs.
Kudos Great Britian. The RN should be world class.
But..... Ponder this
"The ships will be designed and built entirely in the UK"
Will the lights mysteriously go out at night while you are driving them around?
:D