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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Neubob on December 22, 2004, 06:33:06 AM
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In an attempt to avoid beating around the bush, I will just come right out and say it:
I was circumsized yesterday. It was done on an order from my doctor, who said if I didn't, I'd be risking infection as well as an elevated potential for cancer later in life.
I opted for the local-only anesthetic, my reasoning being that this was an experience I didn't want to sleep through--an experience that few grown men ever go through. The reality of just how stupid that decision was hit me when the urologist stuck the needle in--into a region of my body that should never be touched by anything sharper than cotton underwear. I'm still amazed I didn't pass out.
If life is like a box of chocolates, then this one I'm chewing on now has a spikey metal thing as its center.
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ouch :o
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dude! your foreskin is there for a reason. cutting it off doesnt make a bloody difference.
your doctor told you that to make a quick buck most likely :)
but i always was a cynic.....I once had a dentist fill 6 teeth that were perfectly healthy. he was taken to court 3 years later. unfortunately there was no chance i could claim, i was *advised* as there was no way of prooving that the removed bits of tooth were not decayed.
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It was done on an order from my doctor, who said if I didn't, I'd be risking infection as well as an elevated potential for cancer later in life.
Does you doctor say "Hello everybody!" when he walks into the room?
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this makes the "V" thread trival
the doc coulda just told you to bathe more than once a week :)
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Originally posted by mechanic
dude! your foreskin is there for a reason. cutting it off doesnt make a bloody difference.
your doctor told you that to make a quick buck most likely :)
but i always was a cynic.....I once had a dentist fill 6 teeth that were perfectly healthy. he was taken to court 3 years later. unfortunately there was no chance i could claim, i was *advised* as there was no way of prooving that the removed bits of tooth were not decayed.
In most cases you'd be right, foreskin isn't a problem, but, like I said, my condition was unique. It is called phimosis(or something like that)where naturally-occuring scar tissue around the area in question prevents mobility of the skin during--umm, excitement. This lack of mobility promotes infection and can lead to penile cancer later on down the road.
That being said, circumcision is never a bad idea. Even for people without the problem that I had, it is far more sanitary to not have foreskin. Somethings just don't have much use on our bodies. The appendix and the tailbone are two other examples.
And the doctor didn't make a dime off of it. He's an internist, and made the diagnosis during a standard physical, while the guy who performed the operation was a urologist. Both guys did the work as a professional favor.
Don't be so cynical Mechanic, the vast majority of doctors really aren't in it just for the money.
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i had mine done at the age of 7. My parents were smart and taped half a burger box to me so i could wear shorts without screaming in agony. Bloody hell was it painful if my gently touched anything!
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Originally posted by ra
Does you doctor say "Hello everybody!" when he walks into the room?
That's funny ra. Your knowledge of Simpsons rivals your understanding of human anatomy...
Dr. Nick says "Hi everybody", not "Hello everybody"
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Yeah, well at least my weiner's not bleeding.
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Originally posted by ra
Yeah, well at least my weiner's not bleeding.
Touche.
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so the jews were right again? Gonna have to rethink the whole pork thing..
lazs
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I had the phimosis too, but I asked for a TOTAL anesthesys.
The doctor left me some skin, for a partial cover (almost complete, when in "rest" position).
Leaving the skin is better, the exposed skin lose sensitivity. ;)
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Originally posted by lazs2
so the jews were right again? Gonna have to rethink the whole pork thing..
lazs
Just as the case was with being cut soon after birth, I think that their dietary beliefs were all, at their core, meant to address the need for sanitation and cleanliness. Back then, pork was much more dangerous to eat, plain and simple. No refrigeration meant quicker decay and with the presance of trichonosis, some bad meat could lead to a quick onset of insanity followed by death. To a god-fearing person from that era, the answer was pretty simple.
Today, we've got ways around those other issues but tradition is tradition. Personally, I think that god would want me to be happy in what I eat and would prefer that I retain as much of my dingus as possible. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't.
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Originally posted by Naso
I had the phimosis too, but I asked for a TOTAL anesthesys.
The doctor left me some skin, for a partial cover (almost complete, when in "rest" position).
Leaving the skin is better, the exposed skin lose sensitivity. ;)
Same here Naso, it was only partial.
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new meaning to the name New Bob
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No big deal....when you are a couple of months old....I was two weeks old the first time dad took me into the local watering hole.
Everyone was gooing and cackeling at me...one gal asked pa "how much does he weigh?" Pa said: "14 pounds........a couple of months later at the same watering hole dad was showing me off again when another lady asked "how much does he weigh?"
Pa said: "9 pounds" The bartender chimes in with "I thought he weighed 14 pounds last time you were in here?"....Pa said: He did but we had him circumsized last week......................... .......
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Neubob, I want a report in a few months.
My wife and I are expecting our third child. If it’s a boy we are not sure if we want to circumcise or not. Very few men have had the chance of experiencing “penile joys” with and without circumcision. Let me know, “Is Mr. Happy more fun without his flappy?”
eskimo
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Oh GOD!!!
Whenever I open a Thread I'm prepared for just about anything.... porn, snuff videos, profanity... but this thread has been like being kicked in the privates.
Damn you, Neubob, now I can't get my knees seperated from my chest...Do you know how hard it is to type when you're curled into a ball?
Skuzzy, lock this thread, please. :(
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after ALL those walks on the beach, you get squeemish about a little snip of skin?
snip snip snip snip snip snip snip snip
hey neubob, did you get to keep the stub as a souviner?
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I'll let you know how everything is, Eskimo. However, personally, I wouldn't do the procedure on my kid unless he's got phimosis--which, apparently, can be diagnosed very early. The general trend today is moving towards not doing it, though. It's all part of the "natural is better" philosophy. I have no idea how it's going to pan out in the end.
JB--no, I didn't... And I'm going to regret it in the years to come, I can already tell.
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Originally posted by Naso
Leaving the skin is better, the exposed skin lose sensitivity. ;)
damn!! I knew it!!! :mad:
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Originally posted by JB73
new meaning to the name New Bob
Damn you JB73, you beat me to it! LOL
Hey, is this the proper thread to put the John and Lorena song in? :D
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Originally posted by Neubob
In an attempt to avoid beating around the bush...............
Sounds like you are on the right track for that one. At least for a few weeks. ;)
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hey neubob, did you get to keep the stub as a souviner?
Narlly ring Dude...what's it made outta?
:rofl
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Originally posted by GScholz
... on the bright side ... you'll last longer in bed. ;)
reminds me of the old joke....
How many orgasms does the average woman have?
Who cares.
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were you even able to say.. " sh||||||+" ? :D
man .. just realize what that mean ... if i knew it before i would ask, if you were able to say " holy shiiiit" :P
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Here's a nibblet. When they do cleft repair surgery on young males they will sometimes harvest skin from the foreskin to reconstruct the gums.
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How nice of you to share.
I think?:(
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Gah, I got snipped 7 days after I was born.
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I had mine done twice, once when I was just born and again at 28.
The last one had to be done because of a lump that developed. When the Doctors finished and examined the lump....... :(
Lo and Behold a perfect Pearl.....seems that I dipped it into sooooo many clams....Well you get the picture.
:rofl
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(http://molonlabe.org/ant-eater.jpg)
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Hey ummm airhead look at this...
(http://www.gendercentre.org.au/13.jpg)
airhead?
airhead?
dude?
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Jezuz this thread died quick. You all run out to get some fresh air?
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Originally posted by eskimo2
Neubob, I want a report in a few months.
My wife and I are expecting our third child. If it’s a boy we are not sure if we want to circumcise or not. Very few men have had the chance of experiencing “penile joys” with and without circumcision. Let me know, “Is Mr. Happy more fun without his flappy?”
eskimo
Eskimo,
I had my son cut when he was born for 2 reasons.....cleanliness, and because his dad was.
1. I don't know how many kids you have but when they are in diapers the watermelon ends up EVERYWERE. Cleaning off the willy is bad enough let alon having to clean "in and out"
2. I was told by a good friend that it's best for son's to match their dads, it makes it better for the two to relate. It doesn't make much sense now that I think about it but it did the way she said it...
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I agree with the cleanliness, seems nasty to me not to have it done.
I've been snipped since i was born. So I don't have any experience other wise. But my first kid was snipped at birth, and the new addition Due Feb 14 will also be snipped.
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Cleanliness isn't an issue. Girls have things that get much dirtier, in case you haven't noticed. And, uh, foreskins have worked for the vast majority of humans, and their ##s haven't fallen off (most of the time).
You know, that's an impressive array of sense organs and nerves down there. Circumcision does decrease sensitivity and pleasure. If you doubt me, feel free to google it.
For most males, there's no medically sound reason to circumcise. And if there is a medically sound reason to do so, it's not, as NB found out, impossible to circumcise later in life. Later-in-life circumcisions don't entail the same loss of sensitivity, but the circumcisee does know what he's missing.
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Originally posted by Neubob
I was circumsized yesterday. It was done on an order from my doctor, who said if I didn't, I'd be risking infection as well as an elevated potential for cancer later in life.
Your doctor said that? What an idiot.
...-Gixer
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Originally posted by Gixer
Your doctor said that? What an idiot.
...-Gixer
He's got 20 something years of experience in medicine... How much do you have?
I'm assuming none, so go ahead and google phimosis and find out the various effects of this condition. Then, after you've enlightened yourself, you may resume generating opinions.
In the meantime, stick to topics you know; for example, which imaginary weapon is best for killing imaginary enemies in the latest installment of your favorite first-person-shooter.
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gixer is from new zealand where they are privy to things that Americans can't understand. I thought it was just power, politics and economics.... now it seems that medicine is an area that they surpass us in too.
And to think... before this, I hardly even heard of new zealand.
lazs
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am i last healty guy at HT`s BBS ? :D
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Originally posted by Dinger
Cleanliness isn't an issue. Girls have things that get much dirtier, in case you haven't noticed. And, uh, foreskins have worked for the vast majority of humans, and their ##s haven't fallen off (most of the time).
You know, that's an impressive array of sense organs and nerves down there. Circumcision does decrease sensitivity and pleasure. If you doubt me, feel free to google it.
For most males, there's no medically sound reason to circumcise. And if there is a medically sound reason to do so, it's not, as NB found out, impossible to circumcise later in life. Later-in-life circumcisions don't entail the same loss of sensitivity, but the circumcisee does know what he's missing.
not that I really want to talk about this but I don't see how removing a loose piece of skin decreases your sensativity.
And yes cleaning out a kids wang after he chat in his diaper is a PITA.
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http://www.fathermag.com/health/circ/sensitivity-test/
http://www.circumcision.org/studies.htm
have fun!
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Where is Sandman , Thrawn, TarGUT ? :D
Originally posted by Neubob
That being said, circumcision is never a bad idea. Even for people without the problem that I had, it is far more sanitary to not have foreskin. Somethings just don't have much use on our bodies. The appendix and the tailbone are two other examples.
Nudebob,
I had my own problems when I was born...when they circumsized me I lost half my body weight :D
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Nudebob,
I had my own problems when I was born...when they circumsized me I lost half my body weight :D
All skin and no bone, eh Ripsnort?
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Originally posted by Neubob
He's got 20 something years of experience in medicine... How much do you have?
I'm assuming none, so go ahead and google phimosis and find out the various effects of this condition. Then, after you've enlightened yourself, you may resume generating opinions.
In the meantime, stick to topics you know; for example, which imaginary weapon is best for killing imaginary enemies in the latest installment of your favorite first-person-shooter.
Well removing foreskin to help prevent cancer he must be an idiot. That's old school stuff and from more religious reasons then anything else.. Ask any other doctor if your now safer from cancer because you had your foreskin removed.
...-Gixer
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Originally posted by GScholz
I knew it. You've been a dick all your life. ;)
Only when being dicked with...:D And I never get even, I always get one better.
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Originally posted by lazs2
gixer is from new zealand where they are privy to things that Americans can't understand. I thought it was just power, politics and economics.... now it seems that medicine is an area that they surpass us in too.
And to think... before this, I hardly even heard of new zealand.
lazs
Errr even though he lives here I think, from his posts, he may actually be australian. Or maybe hes planning to move there and has taken up a course in assholism?
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Originally posted by Vulcan
Hey ummm airhead look at this...
(http://www.gendercentre.org.au/13.jpg)
airhead?
airhead?
dude?
Airhead Don't worry Dude...if the Doctor sneezes, still a half a dick is better than no dick at all....
Yo airhead?
hey man you don't look so good, airhead?
Bud?
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well vulcan... he claims to be from new zealand.. perhaps I should ask him about the pork thing?
lazs
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Originally posted by Gixer
Well removing foreskin to help prevent cancer he must be an idiot. That's old school stuff and from more religious reasons then anything else.. Ask any other doctor if your now safer from cancer because you had your foreskin removed.
...-Gixer
I did. In fact, I got three opinions from internists and two from urologists before proceeding. They all agreed that, given my condition, less foreskin would lead to a lowered risk of infection. Lower risk of chronic infection, by extension, would lead to less carcinogenic exposure and, yes, less of a risk of penile cancer. The margins may not be great, but they are present, nonetheless.
To put it simply, in deference to you, when stuff festers there for a long time and you have no ability to clean it--as the case is with many people suffering from phimosis--prolonged problems can and will occur at an elevated rate.
Now, who do I believe, five successful, time-proven physicians or some guy who doesn't know the difference between 'then' and 'than', and still cannot seem to successfully contract 'you' and 'are' into a single word.
<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>> ....-Neubob
Now go get your fluff'n shinebox.
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Originally posted by Vulcan
Errr even though he lives here I think, from his posts, he may actually be australian. Or maybe hes planning to move there and has taken up a course in assholism?
LOL
...-Gixer
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Yet you still find it necessary to post a message about a pointless opertion you decided to undertake and that your little bit of pain deserves some sort of applause.
I haven't seen anyone post about having their hemroids removed, but it's about as interesting for the rest of us.
...-Gixer
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Yeah, gixers got a point. This is about as bad as a hemmhroid thread. I had to quit reading because of the gayness of describing your donut in detail to a bunch men. yikes dewd. somebody post a richrd simmons "you're gay" jpeg please.
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Originally posted by Gixer
Yet you still find it necessary to post a message about a pointless opertion you decided to undertake and that your little bit of pain deserves some sort of applause.
...-Gixer
Tell you what, you go get your willy cut and come back and tell me that you don't want to share your pain ;)
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
not that I really want to talk about this but I don't see how removing a loose piece of skin decreases your sensativity.
And yes cleaning out a kids wang after he chat in his diaper is a PITA.
Rather weak excuse for mutilating your kid.
Hell.. if there ever was a hotbed for infection, it's the girl and we don't go cutting them up for "sanitary" reasons.
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Originally posted by Sandman
Rather weak excuse for mutilating your kid.
Hell.. if there ever was a hotbed for infection, it's the girl and we don't go cutting them up for "sanitary" reasons.
it's hardly mutilation!
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Unnecesary circumcision is consistant with the literal definition of mutilate.
Sometimes it's necesary to correct congenial abnormalities.
congenital, not congenial, lmao
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Modern man will live about 30 years without medical help.
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I think of all the threads I've read on the board, this is my absolute least favorite - yup, I'm damn sure of it.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
it's hardly mutilation!
I should add... you don't clean out their "wang" when they're infants. The foreskin does not fold back until they're older.
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allways felt that them jews were the smartest people on the planet.
lazs
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Originally posted by ra
Yeah, well at least my weiner's not bleeding.
LOLOL...sig material.
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Originally posted by Suave
Unnecesary circumcision is consistant with the literal definition of mutilate.
Sometimes it's necesary to correct congenial abnormalities.
congenital, not congenial, lmao
well then so are breast implants. I love boobies :)
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...can't argue this point.
:aok
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(Closes eyes)
Ahhhhh....... Boobies........ :)
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Originally posted by Neubob
In most cases you'd be right, foreskin isn't a problem, but, like I said, my condition was unique. It is called phimosis(or something like that)where naturally-occuring scar tissue around the area in question prevents mobility of the skin during--umm, excitement. This lack of mobility promotes infection and can lead to penile cancer later on down the road.
That being said, circumcision is never a bad idea. Even for people without the problem that I had, it is far more sanitary to not have foreskin. Somethings just don't have much use on our bodies. The appendix and the tailbone are two other examples.
And the doctor didn't make a dime off of it. He's an internist, and made the diagnosis during a standard physical, while the guy who performed the operation was a urologist. Both guys did the work as a professional favor.
Don't be so cynical Mechanic, the vast majority of doctors really aren't in it just for the money.
:confused: What a pile of pseudomedicinal crap !
:mad: Your personal condition is one thing but don't you try to lecture on general "healthyness" of the circumcision. You are just voicing the unsubstantiated OPINION of all circumcised surgens and nothing more than that. The next stop of your thought train is the approval of female circumcision.:rolleyes:
Appendix, tailbone, foreskin may seem to be unnecessary appendages of your body, but in reality they are the constituent parts of your body. Attempting to get rid of parts of your body without the medical necessity for such an operation just can't be healthy. I hope you won't lecture your son that the forskin is a "useless" stretch of skin, nor instruct your daughter that the cesarean is "just another but easier way" of delivering a baby.
I understand that you are in pain right now, and you did what was right for you, but don't let your pain obscure your mind vision.
Healthy recovery to you :aok but be prepared that it may take a little bit more time than you expect.
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Originally posted by JB73
new meaning to the name New Bob
:D :aok :(
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
well then so are breast implants.
Not really, not unless something goes horribly wrong and causes deformity or impairment. Also, breast enhancement is voluntary.
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Originally posted by Suave
Not really, not unless something goes horribly wrong and causes deformity or impairment. Also, breast enhancement is voluntary.
OH REALLY. SO You can ADD TOO but not take away. What about the scaring.....people have unecesary surgerys all the time and it's not mutilation.
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If the result is deformity or impairment it is. Damn, we just went over that.
Remember that part in "Resevior Dogs" when the dude cuts the cops ear off? That's mutilation.
Anybody know what the word is for genital mutilation of female babies ? Pharaonic circumcision.
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Originally posted by Suave
If the result is deformity or impairment it is. Damn, we just went over that.
Remember that part in "Resevior Dogs" when the dude cuts the cops ear off? That's mutilation.
Anybody know what the word is for genital mutilation of female babies ? Pharaonic circumcision.
who cares though. Circumcision is not an uncommon nore unhealthy act. I know we don't remove apendixes just because we might have problems later, but I know a few guys that had to have mid life circumcisions and they wouldnt wish that on their worst enemy.
either way though you win, I refuse to argue this subject any more. ;)
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Originally posted by Neubob
In an attempt to avoid beating around the bush, I will just come right out and say it:
I was circumsized yesterday. It was done on an order from my doctor, who said if I didn't, I'd be risking infection as well as an elevated potential for cancer later in life.
I opted for the local-only anesthetic, my reasoning being that this was an experience I didn't want to sleep through--an experience that few grown men ever go through. The reality of just how stupid that decision was hit me when the urologist stuck the needle in--into a region of my body that should never be touched by anything sharper than cotton underwear. I'm still amazed I didn't pass out.
If life is like a box of chocolates, then this one I'm chewing on now has a spikey metal thing as its center.
Whoa! Why am I now scrunching my knees together and grabbing my privates all the while saying "OUCH!" :eek:
Good thing the worst is over.
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This is all WAY too much information...You should all start a "I'm a guy but I wanna be like Oprah" talkshow...