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Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: weaselsan on December 24, 2004, 01:59:01 PM
For those of you interested, this is the history of Kwanza.


While commonly viewed as an "African" holiday, observed from Dec. 26 to Jan. 1, Kwanzaa actually was created in the U.S. in 1966 by Dr. Maulana "Ron" Karenga, the head of a violent black-power group, United Slaves Organization, which was a rival to the Black Panthers.


In the 1970s, Karenga served four years in prison for conspiracy and assault in the torture of two female followers. Karenga was convicted of whipping them with electrical cords and beating them with a karate baton after stripping them naked. He placed in the mouth of one of the victims a hot soldering iron, also scarring her face with the device. He put one of her big toes in a vise, and detergent and running water in both of their mouths.

In a 1978 interview quoted in the Washington Post, Karenga said, "People think it's African, but it's not. I came up with Kwanzaa because black people in this country wouldn't celebrate it if they knew it was American. Also, I put it around Christmas because I knew that's when a lot of bloods (blacks) would be partying."

 Kwanzaa is taught in public schools, recognized by corporations and was saluted in a proclamation by President Bush in 2002.




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Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: Gunslinger on December 24, 2004, 02:06:01 PM
RACIST,


HOW DARE YOU TALK ABOUT ANYTHING INVOLVING BLACK PEOPLE!
Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: NUKE on December 24, 2004, 02:06:34 PM
Well, in the proper holiday spirit I'd like to wish happy partying to all the bloods.
Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: weaselsan on December 24, 2004, 02:11:12 PM
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Originally posted by NUKE
Well, in the proper holiday spirit I'd like to wish happy partying to all the bloods.


And a merry soldering iron to you too nuke.
Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: Gunslinger on December 24, 2004, 02:15:00 PM
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Originally posted by NUKE
Well, in the proper holiday spirit I'd like to wish happy partying to all the bloods.


your gonna piss off the east side bling bling roller homies if you don't mention them!
Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: LePaul on December 24, 2004, 04:56:37 PM
Darn, Gunslinger, I was going to get you a Kwanzaa vise but apparently this holiday is bigger than I knew.  Got a favorite detergent?  :p
Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: Gunslinger on December 24, 2004, 05:55:10 PM
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Originally posted by LePaul
Darn, Gunslinger, I was going to get you a Kwanzaa vise but apparently this holiday is bigger than I knew.  Got a favorite detergent?  :p


LOL, nope!

DOn't you know us hillbilly redneck racist republicans don't shower or wash or nuthin.


BTW thanks for the info on Kwanzaa, It is true right?
Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: Thrawn on December 25, 2004, 10:20:33 PM
And here I just thought it was a file transfer program.
Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: Dago on December 26, 2004, 12:16:07 AM
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Originally posted by Thrawn
And here I just thought it was a file transfer program.


LOL
Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: weaselsan on December 26, 2004, 12:44:07 PM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
LOL, nope!

DOn't you know us hillbilly redneck racist republicans don't shower or wash or nuthin.


BTW thanks for the info on Kwanzaa, It is true right?


Yes it is the true origin of "Kwansaa"
Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: Jackal1 on December 26, 2004, 11:19:35 PM
Hmmmmmmm.........so....let me get this straight.
  It is a celebration of heritage, well being of family, happy happy, carefree, etc that was invented by someone who got off on torturing people?
Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: Masherbrum on December 27, 2004, 12:02:10 AM
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Hmmmmmmm.........so....let me get this straight.
  It is a celebration of heritage, well being of family, happy happy, carefree, etc that was invented by someone who got off on torturing people?


Quite pathetic isn't it?  

Karaya
Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: The Rayzah on December 28, 2004, 02:37:56 PM
Go away Neubob
Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: WMLute on December 28, 2004, 02:40:41 PM
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Originally posted by The Rayzah
Go away Nuebob


OMG!! just which one or you "whitee's" threw THIS troll out???
Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: lazs2 on December 28, 2004, 02:42:28 PM
never heard of it.... sounds kinda pathetic tho.

lazs
Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: Muckmaw1 on December 28, 2004, 02:47:44 PM
Has anyone got a link to this information?

I checked Snopes on this.

No mention.

Woiuld like to know if this is true.
Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: The Rayzah on December 28, 2004, 02:50:10 PM
Go away Neubob
Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: lazs2 on December 28, 2004, 02:53:19 PM
really?  real panthus?  that would be great.   if you have any influence send some to dixon.... we never have any good riots here.

lazs
Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: The Rayzah on December 28, 2004, 02:56:28 PM
Go away Neubob
Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: lazs2 on December 28, 2004, 02:58:25 PM
hey that's great... thanks for keeping me in mind.   allways enjoy visiting with the colored people.

lazs
Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: weaselsan on December 28, 2004, 03:22:17 PM
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Originally posted by Muckmaw1
Has anyone got a link to this information?

I checked Snopes on this.

No mention.

Woiuld like to know if this is true.




http://www.nathanielturner.com/karenga2.htm
Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: weaselsan on December 28, 2004, 03:35:41 PM
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Originally posted by The Rayzah
Go away Neubob


Waznt whitee that be bringin ta matta up...it be a black minista
cuz he dont wanna be separate and unequal.
Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: Sikboy on December 28, 2004, 03:37:42 PM
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Originally posted by The Rayzah
Go away Neubob


A double major in spelling and math.

Excellent.

7 out of 10, all the y'allz really detract from the overall quality of the troll. I mean, if you're going to use a word like Yallz, why bother with the apostrophe?  

:p

-Sik
Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: Masherbrum on December 28, 2004, 03:53:05 PM
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Originally posted by The Rayzah
Go away Neubob


What a vocabulary you have.  

Karaya
Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: Drunky on December 28, 2004, 04:02:02 PM
It was Proffesor Plum in the Library with the Candlestick.

Wait.  No, it was Neubob, in the O'Club, with another Shades Account.
Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: weaselsan on December 28, 2004, 04:04:09 PM
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Originally posted by The Rayzah
Go away Neubob


Skuzzy if your Rayzah I want that handle.
Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: WMLute on December 28, 2004, 04:06:03 PM
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Originally posted by Muckmaw1
Has anyone got a link to this information?

I checked Snopes on this.

No mention.

Woiuld like to know if this is true.


http://www.nathanielturner.com/karenga2.htm
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36374
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1301903/posts
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=5251
http://www.textbookleague.org/114kwanz.htm

The Kwanza creator's REAL name is "Ron N. Everett".  Do a google on the name.
Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: Skuzzy on December 28, 2004, 04:17:28 PM
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Originally posted by weaselsan
Skuzzy if your Rayzah I want that handle.

No, it was Neubob with another shades account he created to troll the board.
Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: Ripsnort on December 28, 2004, 04:21:31 PM
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
No, it was Neubob with another shades account he created to troll the board.


And Neubob was who before he was Neubob?

Sometimes its hard to keep up with psychotics..:confused:
Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: jamusta on December 28, 2004, 04:21:38 PM
What is this United Slaves they speak of. From my understanding its Us not USO. It was simply "Us" as opposed to "them". It was not an abrieviation. His organization was battling the Black Panthers over control of the Afro-American studies at UCLA. So yes he has a violent past. Now as for the torture charges, are they true? No one will ever know except him and the accusers. He went to jail for the crimes although he says he is innocent. With the recent shake up of the LAPD and the releasing of many innocent prisoners set up by them, he could have been innocent. There are many theories about him, one is he was working for the CIA. Who knows. Is it possible the man changed his ways? He does have 2 Ph.d's.

Although I do not celebrate kwanza who are you to judge it?
He made up a holiday using bits and pieces of african history and added things to it. Is that so wrong? Did he do something different than the man who created Christmas?

Yet the racial comments flow instead of having a intellegent discussion on the subject.
Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: SunTracker on December 28, 2004, 04:46:56 PM
I want to visit the country of africa one day.  Maybe I can drive a boat down the amazon river there.  Africa also has the only object capable of being seen from space, the Great Wall.  I'm not sure, but I think it was built to keep slave trappers out.
Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: Raubvogel on December 28, 2004, 05:02:14 PM
Festivus for the rest of us!!
Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: Jackal1 on December 28, 2004, 06:04:41 PM
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Originally posted by jamusta
There are many theories about him, one is he was working for the CIA.  


  I`ll give SRV a ring and see if I can get this confirmed. :D
Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: weaselsan on December 28, 2004, 06:27:01 PM
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Originally posted by Raubvogel
Festivus for the rest of us!!


Naw, Jerry Seinfeld has that taken, I want to start a Redneck holiday season ....maybe start the season at the beginning of Bass fishing season in Florida and Georgia. We can celebrate Bass fishing, N.A.S.C.A.R, Cheap beer and Smith & Wesson. Need a good name.
Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: -MZ- on December 28, 2004, 06:45:28 PM
Neck-o-ween?
Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: Jackal1 on December 29, 2004, 06:04:51 AM
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Originally posted by weaselsan
I want to start a Redneck holiday season ....maybe start the season at the beginning of Bass fishing season in Florida and Georgia. We can celebrate Bass fishing, N.A.S.C.A.R, Cheap beer and Smith & Wesson. Need a good name.



   Hmmmmmm..... I didn`t realize that Florida and Georgia was so behind the times. Here in Texas we have had that "holiday season"  as far back  as I can remember. No official name. We just refer to it as "LIfe is good". :D
Title: Kwanzaa???
Post by: lazs2 on December 29, 2004, 08:36:30 AM
jamusta... never been big on instant manufactured hollidays.... check back with me in a hundred years or so.  

lazs