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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ripsnort on December 28, 2004, 07:22:27 PM
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A) Yes I have.
B) No, I'm just a body counter watching the news.
C) No, but I plan to soon.
(Sometimes peer pressure is a good thing..)
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
A) Yes I have.
B) No, I'm just a body counter watching the news.
C) No, but I plan to soon.
(Sometimes peer pressure is a good thing..)
Actually being the winner of a rather sizeable amount in the Florida lottery. I have for the past few years given a very large amount to the American Red Cross. They will be there seeing that my donation as well as others is being used wisely.
I have dropped the United way and give directly to the Boy Scouts of America.
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D) No, and take your guilt trip and shove it up your ass. :aok
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Originally posted by Thrawn
D) No, and take your guilt trip and shove it up your ass. :aok
We have a saying here in Daytona...Happiness is a thousand New Yorkers going home...with a Canadian under each arm.
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Originally posted by weaselsan
We have a saying here in Daytona...Happiness is a thousand New Yorkers going home...with a Canadian under each arm.
:aok
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
A) Yes I have.
B) No, I'm just a body counter watching the news.
C) No, but I plan to soon.
(Sometimes peer pressure is a good thing..)
D) Possibly, but only if you do the hard work and find me the link.
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weasel, without New Yorkers and Canadians how would 90% of the Daytona residents make their income??!?!?
I kinda agree though, ****ing bikers and rednecks coming to watch Nascar are a pain. Then there's BCR too...and no I'm not racist.
Spring Break rocks though, IMO is the only thing that redeems that POS town which I just left, prolly for good.
Ever been to Lollipops? :D
Ripsnort, how can one send money or aid to victims?
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E) I pay taxes.
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Originally posted by weaselsan
We have a saying here in Daytona...Happiness is a thousand New Yorkers going home...with a Canadian under each arm.
...I don't get it. Are you saying that New Yorkers can't hold thier liqour and need Canadians to carry them home. Do Canadians and New Yorkers make great friends and get invited to crash in the New Yorkers homes for awhile, leaving the poor yokal locals out of the massive party to clean up thier mess? Do only 3000 people visit Daytona? Cripes that's not much, why the whining?
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F) If I do, you won't hear about it.
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Originally posted by Raubvogel
E) I pay taxes.
Calculate your taxes paid, then calculate what our Gov't has donated. I'll bet it would be less than $1.
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Originally posted by Vudak
D) Possibly, but only if you do the hard work and find me the link.
Google search "Red Cross", "Unicef", or just "Tsunami Relief fund".
Come on guys, don't take your stalking-habits out on me for posting the thread. Donate. Help your fellow humans out. You never know when we'll need it...
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If I do write a check, do I have to remind everyone I did in 3 different threads and start a new one? Seems like alot of work.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Google search "Red Cross", "Unicef", or just "Tsunami Relief fund".
Come on guys, don't take your stalking-habits out on me for posting the thread. Donate. Help your fellow humans out. You never know when we'll need it...
Aw jeez man I was serious! Not a stalking-habit!
Ok you've shamed me into it. To google away I go.
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$23.00 on the way via the Catholic Relief Services. Would send more but it's the time of year to be broke and the number has a special significance anyway. Besides, figure it's an easy one for people to match :)
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info on how to send money here (http://www.turnto10.com/asseenon/4027326/detail.html)
going to the mailbox to mail my check
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I had a feeling that sliding the fact that you donated into a post in some other thread just wasn't going to be enough. Practically started the stopwatch when I saw that.
Only a moron would need a post in the AH BBS to give them the novel idea of trying to help out. And it's nobody's business but our own.
"The charity that hastens to proclaim its good deeds, ceases to be charity, and is only pride and ostentation."
- William Hutton
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Google search "Red Cross", "Unicef", or just "Tsunami Relief fund".
Come on guys, don't take your stalking-habits out on me for posting the thread. Donate. Help your fellow humans out. You never know when we'll need it...
Rip, might I suggest send your money to care.org, that way you know you're not sponsoring a bunch of pedophiles or lining the back pockets of nothing more than a very well run business ;)
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Originally posted by Nash
Only a moron would need a post in the AH BBS to give them the novel idea of trying to help out. And it's nobody's business but our own.
"The charity that hastens to proclaim its good deeds, ceases to be charity, and is only pride and ostentation."
- William Hutton
Great for Hutton. Bottom line is they got some help. As to my being a moron for not thinking of doing it on my own, well, no, that doesn't make me a moron, it makes me a Grade A Jack*** that needed a swift kick in said *** to get into gear.
Kick accomplished, aid sent, someone over there is better off. Flame away.
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At least you're honest about it.
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Originally posted by Vudak
Great for Hutton. Bottom line is they got some help. As to my being a moron for not thinking of doing it on my own, well, no, that doesn't make me a moron, it makes me a Grade A Jack*** that needed a swift kick in said *** to get into gear.
Kick accomplished, aid sent, someone over there is better off. Flame away.
WTG!
For the rest of you...
This is not a time for personal attacks. Its a time to help out.
Just do it. $5.00, $50, $500, whatever you can muster up.
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Originally posted by weaselsan
Actually being the winner of a rather sizeable amount in the Florida lottery. I have for the past few years given a very large amount to the American Red Cross. They will be there seeing that my donation as well as others is being used wisely.
I have dropped the United way and give directly to the Boy Scouts of America.
God Bless you, Weaelsan:cool:
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Never mind.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
WTG!
For the rest of you...
This is not a time for personal attacks. Its a time to help out.
Just do it. $5.00, $50, $500, whatever you can muster up.
Nor is it a time for braggards, or people telling what the rest of you should or shouldn't do.
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Originally posted by Stringer
Nor is it a time for braggards, or people telling what the rest of you should or shouldn't do.
Why is it not a time? :confused: I'm suggesting it, not "telling" you to.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Calculate your taxes paid, then calculate what our Gov't has donated. I'll bet it would be less than $1.
Hey, whatever I can give, right? Right?
:aok
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Originally posted by Ozark
But it is my business!
After 23 years in the fire service, I guess I’m a moron! I took some (I know now) stupid risks to help others. That’s why I posted this thread.
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=138860
No it is not your business Ozark.
You chose a very public service minded and risky vocation. My brother-in-law is a firefighter. I admire the selflessness it takes to perform the duties that you do.
It does not give you the right. however, to make this or anything else your business.
I think it was very helpful for you to post the information you did. But let folks' consciences be their own guide.
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Your right! I should have never ask this community to help some kids.
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.Your right! I should have never ask this community to help some kids.
Get off the stupid bellybutton guilt trip Ozark.
You said it was your business what others do, and it isn't.
I already said you did a good thing by helping and by posting the info on where you helped so that others my do so, if they wish.
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Originally posted by Stringer
.Your right! I should have never ask this community to help some kids.
Get off the stupid bellybutton guilt trip Ozark.
You said it was your business what others do, and it isn't.
I already said you did a good thing by helping and by posting the info on where you helped so that others my do so, if they wish.
There's a lot of guilty people here. I can't think of any other reason to post whines and complains about someone trying to help others.
Is my neighbor a bragger? She asks me to sponsor her walk for cancer every year.
Is my pastor a bragger? He asks me to donate to the welfare fund once a month.
Are the kids that come to my door asking for toys to support toys for tots braggers?
If you don't want to donate, don't. But don't transfer your guilt to someone who is trying to raise money for a worthy cause, whatever their motive.
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Martlet, meet Ripsnort.
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Martlet,
Quick Answer. No.
Did those people say it's their business if you do or do not donate (aside from your minister, who makes it his business)?
Your minister analogy doesn't hold here on a Sim BBS, and you know that.
It is not about my guilt about whether I donate or not. You have that wrong.
And if you do donate, do, but don't transfer that good act into a guilt trip to others by saying it is your business what they do or do not do.
Again, for your comprehension, I already stated that I thought it was a good thing Ozark did and that it was helpful information he posted in his thread.
He just went to far, IMO, when he stated it was his business what SOB did if SOB donated and didn't announce it to the world. I noted my exception to that.
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Originally posted by Stringer
Martlet,
Quick Answer. No.
Did those people say it's their business if you do or do not donate (aside from your minister, who makes it his business)?
Your minister analogy doesn't hold here on a Sim BBS, and you know that.
It is not about my guilt about whether I donate or not. You have that wrong.
And if you do donate, do, but don't transfer that good act into a guilt trip to others by saying it is your business what they do or do not do.
Again, for your comprehension, I already stated that I thought it was a good thing Ozark did and that it was helpful information he posted in his thread.
He just went to far, IMO, when he stated it was his business what SOB did if SOB donated and didn't announce it to the world. I noted my exception to that.
That isn't the way I understood his post. I took it to mean that he was a firefighter, therefore in the business of helping people. so he posted. Not he was a firefighter, and whether or not you donate is his business.
Just my interpretation.
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Martlet,
I don't know if you saw his post before his edit, but I took it a different way, obviously.
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Originally posted by Stringer
Martlet,
I don't know if you saw his post before his edit, but I took it a different way, obviously.
I just read what you'd quoted.
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What's with all the confusion? It's pretty simple. Here, let me try and take a stab at it.
A tsunami hits, with tens of thousands dead.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Ripsnort has gone.... oh.... about 30 days without bragging about something (although I did see a thread started by someone here today blessing Rip for having beautiful kids or whatever, so despite missing that post I think it's safe to assume that Rip was jonesin' for some kudos - it's a cycle - and made another one of his "look at me" posts).
Maybe not enough people complimented him on his kids. Or maybe taking advantage of the sheer number of tsunami dead was just too irresistable. I don't know. But you can set your watch to this kind of thing.
If you thought for a second.... one second... that when Rip whipped out his checkbook, the thought of how he would parlay it into another "look at me" post (or three) didn't cross his mind... then you don't know Ripsnort. Hell, it was probably his sole and guiding motivation.
I only wonder how big a hit his $110,000/year "toy" budget took on account of this noble act of charity.
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I wonder why people take the time to bust on Rip so feverishly.
From all the posts I have ever seen from Rip, he seems like a nice guy with a nice family.
Everyone of us has our issues and quirks. Rip seems to me like a genuinely nice person. He seems like a man who is very responsible and loves his family.
Nash, you seem like a nice person too, but you also seem to have the nasty side who likes to jump all over someone for seemingly no reason.
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But.... but...
You like everybody, Nuke. :)
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That's pretty much true Nash.
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I give about 30% of my income to the world's largest charity. I'll let them take care of it.
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Yea! I pay taxes!
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Yes it's tax deductible
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i would if i had money, and if i did, i would gently point people to where they can with a sig line...
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Originally posted by Nash
What's with all the confusion? It's pretty simple. Here, let me try and take a stab at it.
A tsunami hits, with tens of thousands dead.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Ripsnort has gone.... oh.... about 30 days without bragging about something (although I did see a thread started by someone here today blessing Rip for having beautiful kids or whatever, so despite missing that post I think it's safe to assume that Rip was jonesin' for some kudos - it's a cycle - and made another one of his "look at me" posts).
Maybe not enough people complimented him on his kids. Or maybe taking advantage of the sheer number of tsunami dead was just too irresistable. I don't know. But you can set your watch to this kind of thing.
If you thought for a second.... one second... that when Rip whipped out his checkbook, the thought of how he would parlay it into another "look at me" post (or three) didn't cross his mind... then you don't know Ripsnort. Hell, it was probably his sole and guiding motivation.
I only wonder how big a hit his $110,000/year "toy" budget took on account of this noble act of charity.
Nash, you sure do have a "conspirator's mind".
Karaya
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Originally posted by NUKE
I wonder why people take the time to bust on Rip so feverishly.
From all the posts I have ever seen from Rip, he seems like a nice guy with a nice family.
Everyone of us has our issues and quirks. Rip seems to me like a genuinely nice person. He seems like a man who is very responsible and loves his family.
Nash, you seem like a nice person too, but you also seem to have the nasty side who likes to jump all over someone for seemingly no reason.
Here Here!
I earler today made a really crappy comment to Rip about his kids
In a retort to one of his comments accussing me of being someone else.
I issued an apology because I behaived like an idiot and he was not deserving of my childish actions.
I like Rip And I do believe that he is a fine American and a great father and husband two of the hardest jobs there are bye the way.
I may not agree with him all the time and he with me but I do hold him in high regard and If I ever meet him will humbly ask him for his forgiveness for my comments.
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I have (without the wife's approval) just donated to the American Red Cross International Relief Fund.
Karaya
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
I have (without the wife's approval) just donated to the American Red Cross International Relief Fund.
Karaya
Remember Mash first rule of marriage.
it's better to say your sorry than to ask for permission LOL.
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Originally posted by wombatt
Remember Mash first rule of marriage.
it's better to say your sorry than to ask for permission LOL.
I'm practically driven to tears reading some of the "eyewitness accounts" per se. I am simply at a loss for words. I mean.....we have a 3 year old son and if anything were to ever happen....you know what I mean.
Karaya
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
I'm practically driven to tears reading some of the "eyewitness accounts" per se. I am simply at a loss for words. I mean.....we have a 3 year old son and if anything were to ever happen....you know what I mean.
Karaya
Yeah the wife and I gave on the care web site.
The really bad part about all of this is that this a poor part of the world to begin with and this overwhelming for them.
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Originally posted by weaselsan
We have a saying here in Daytona...Happiness is a thousand New Yorkers going home...with a Canadian under each arm.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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I saw on TV kids in Africa starving to death, many of them born with aids.
I'm torn here.
-SW
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I gave a small sum to Red Cross collector. Í would rather do volunteer work than give large sums of money.
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none of the above. I wouldn't even know about it if it weren't talked about here and someone hadn't mentiopned it.
everything I can do I have done with my taxes.... if they want more then they need to cut some other programs... the red cross is a worse rip off than the government with about 60 or more percent going to salaries and the rest pretty much going to adminestration.... they get billions but don't have a cent to spend on any disaster except to get to it (transportation) and then they get set up and beg for money.
I give to several well run and true charities.. I don't know if they are giving to this particular disaster or not but I do know that they are givng a huge percent of what I give them to the people who need it.
lazs
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I'm not sure about Laz's facts on the Red Cross, but what I learned in my brief investigation of that organization made me pretty angry.
Despite a passing evaluation by the Better Business Bureau Wise Giving Alliance and a four star rating by CharityNavigator.org, I learned the CEO of the American Red Cross has a salary of over $600,000, and the previous CEO earned over 1.9 million (1.5 million of that was severance pay for being fired).
http://www.charityguide.org
http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm/bay/search.summary/orgid/3277.htm
How screwed up is that? If the CEO earns that much, how much does the typical bevy of VPs pull away? I will never understand why the CEO of a charitable organzation thinks they are entitled to such wealth.
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How much did the red cross ceo send of his personal money? Have you ever seen a red cross station that set up with money at a disaster? At best they will have some carboard cartons of coffee and some water and left over bedding and clothes donated from the last disaster.... once they get there they cry about the desperate situation they are in and say that if they are to do "anything" they need you to send your money NOW..
I have more respect for televangilists.
lazs
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"In a news conference at U.N. headquarters in New York, Egeland called for a major international response -- and went so far as to call the U.S. government and others "stingy" on foreign aid in general."
And the impression I get from the UN is this: We don't want to help the U.S. in Iraq, we just want them to send us large amounts of money whenever we want them to. It's all their fault. We have pockets to line ya know.
The Daifur disaster/genocide is pretty much ignored by the UN as THE U.N. would have to do something and can't just say it's the fault of the United States. And there is millions dead or displaced there. Including children. And that is not an "Act of God" it's deliberate.
Send my tax dollars to up armor the humvees. France can cough up the money as they saved billions by not fielding even a policeman under the U.N. in Iraq.
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I was brought up to believe that the tastefull way to give to charity was to do so anonymously.
Of course I was also brought up to believe that bartering is unethical.
I guess maybe I really am conservative.
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Originally posted by Nash
What's with all the confusion? It's pretty simple. Here, let me try and take a stab at it.
A tsunami hits, with tens of thousands dead.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Ripsnort has gone.... oh.... about 30 days without bragging about something (although I did see a thread started by someone here today blessing Rip for having beautiful kids or whatever, so despite missing that post I think it's safe to assume that Rip was jonesin' for some kudos - it's a cycle - and made another one of his "look at me" posts).
Maybe not enough people complimented him on his kids. Or maybe taking advantage of the sheer number of tsunami dead was just too irresistable. I don't know. But you can set your watch to this kind of thing.
If you thought for a second.... one second... that when Rip whipped out his checkbook, the thought of how he would parlay it into another "look at me" post (or three) didn't cross his mind... then you don't know Ripsnort. Hell, it was probably his sole and guiding motivation.
I only wonder how big a hit his $110,000/year "toy" budget took on account of this noble act of charity.
You really should take up drugs again, you were a much nicer person. Could be you're just a dry druggie?
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Rip,
I'll take it at face value that you really want to make a difference in someone's life that is affected by this disaster.
http://library.adoption.com/International-Adoption/International-Adoption-Sri-Lanka/article/1419/1.html
It's just a "suggestion", mind you.
I can't think of a better family situation that a child who has lost their family could ask for. Your 2 boys and your wife along with yourself would provide a nurturing environment for an orphan that you would adopt.
You have shown that you have the means, and the disposable income to make this happen.
I'll admit now that this is a taller order than I could fill. I know that I couldn't make this big of a self-less act. I have good friends that have done this, even though they have children of their own. Hell, they never even told most people of their plans. They just did it. I admire them more than I can say.
You have given me the impression here, on this BBS, that this is within your reach and more importantly, within your compassion to provide.
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Originally posted by lazs2
once they get there they cry about the desperate situation they are in and say that if they are to do "anything" they need you to send your money NOW..
:rofl
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this thread = autoerotic
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Originally posted by Nash
What's with all the confusion? It's pretty simple. Here, let me try and take a stab at it.
A tsunami hits, with tens of thousands dead.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Ripsnort has gone.... oh.... about 30 days without bragging about something (although I did see a thread started by someone here today blessing Rip for having beautiful kids or whatever, so despite missing that post I think it's safe to assume that Rip was jonesin' for some kudos - it's a cycle - and made another one of his "look at me" posts).
Maybe not enough people complimented him on his kids. Or maybe taking advantage of the sheer number of tsunami dead was just too irresistable. I don't know. But you can set your watch to this kind of thing.
If you thought for a second.... one second... that when Rip whipped out his checkbook, the thought of how he would parlay it into another "look at me" post (or three) didn't cross his mind... then you don't know Ripsnort. Hell, it was probably his sole and guiding motivation.
I only wonder how big a hit his $110,000/year "toy" budget took on account of this noble act of charity.
Heh, Nash has Rip envy.
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Originally posted by Martlet
Heh, Nash has Rip envy.
No, rip has rip envy.
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It is none of your business.
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(Matthew 6:1-4)
"Beware of practicing your righteousness before men to be noticed by them; otherwise you have no reward with your Father who is in heaven.
So when you give to the poor, do not sound a trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, so that they may be honored by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full.
"But when you give to the poor, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving will be in secret; and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you."
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Originally posted by Toad
(Matthew 6:1-4)
do not let your left hand know what your right hand is done in secret will reward you."
Very true I don't want my right hand to get jelouse
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Originally posted by Silat
It is none of your business.
What he said
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Are you guys confusing the american red cross with the international red cross ?
From what I know of the IRC in Rwanda, they were very fast, effective, and they supported their volunteers, unlike the UN there.
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I wrote out a check for eleventy billion dollars.
-Sik
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sometimes a public stoneing is a good thing.
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A) Yes I have. - about 10 minutes ago, to the British Red Cross. I've no idea about their salaries etc. I was responding to a weblink in my daily newspaper. I checked the "Giftaid" box, Giftaid being a system by which charities can reclaim the basic rate income tax which I will have paid on my gift - a laudable and charitable feature within our tax laws, but one which is to be abolished by Tony Blair's govt. in 2005.
One thing we might want to be cautious of is criminals cashing in by setting up fraudulent websites to receive donations designated for the legitimate charities. It's a sad indictment of our world today that some people really would stoop that low.
I shall also be paying a large tax bill on or before 31st January. Anyway, the amounts are not important, and my gift was piffling in the face of a disaster in which millions of people will have lost everything they ever had.
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I don't know about the international red cross but I figure it is pretty much run along the lines of the American one... how much is spent on salaries? whatever it is it is money wasted just as surely as the money wasted on the UN.
lazs
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Originally posted by Pongo
sometimes a public stoneing is a good thing.
Stand still.
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Originally posted by Nash
"The charity that hastens to proclaim its good deeds, ceases to be charity, and is only pride and ostentation."
- William Hutton
Even the Gospel talks about giving in private, stating that giving in secret will be rewarded by God in the open. However, giving so that others may see your generosity for the purpose of being praised by one's peers; that praise will be the only reward.
"Take heed that ye do not (give) your alms before men, to be seen of them: Otherwise ye shall have no reward of your Father, which is in heaven.
Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, they have their reward.
But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth.
That thine alms may be in secret and thy Father which seeth in secret himslef shall reward thee openly."
Matthew 6:1-4, King James version, Dake's annotated reference Bible.
You can be sure that many churches, synagogues and mosques will be having special collections this week to aid the people of SE Asia. You can give there or give to any number of charities via the internet.
If you give and what you give is no one's business but yours.
My regards,
Widewing
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F) i am so broke i am living off gift cards i got for Christmas, and buying all your food at a department store is not easy.
G) no i don't watch TV other then discovery channel, Learning channel, Comedy central, so i am not watching the "body count"
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I'm so broke I can't pay attention.
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I never thought I'd see so many liberal moonbats quote the bible.
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Originally posted by Martlet
I never thought I'd see so many liberal moonbats quote the bible.
AMEN
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Originally posted by Nash
"The charity that hastens to proclaim its good deeds, ceases to be charity, and is only pride and ostentation."
- William Hutton
Not to the guy that receives the charity......
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Widewing nicely put...although prepared to be stoned for your quotes.....
Listen.....helping people in need is a good thing.....
anyone care to debate that???????
BRING IT ON
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B)
what are we up to?
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So let me get this right...
Donate much needed $$$ to help victims of one of the worlds worst disasters?..."No way man..I'll let my tax money fix the problem"
then ask..
Spend billions(and billions) of dollars to kill tens of thousands of innocent civillians in a war?..."Hell yeah!!"
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by SirLoin
So let me get this right...
Donate much needed $$$ to help victims of one of the worlds worst disasters?..."No way man..I'll let my tax money fix the problem"
then ask..
Spend billions(and billions) of dollars to kill tens of thousands of innocent civillians in a war?..."Hell yeah!!"
:rolleyes:
What???
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http://www.wired.com/news/conflict/0,2100,58241,00.html
http://iraqbodycount.net/
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If you guys really want to give to a charity thats making a difference... http://WWW.CARE.ORG
They were the only charity I saw doing anything in Cambodia. When I asked people over there what other charities they knew of there was the Red Cross and the UN, but they could not identify specifically what those two did apart from building the odd bridge or mineclearing. What was worth of noting was that it was a well known fact that both these organisations had staff who openly engaged in pedophilia and other dodgey stuff.
The only organisation that shone was CARE.
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good point vulcan... I think people should research charities and not just sooth their concience with the first corrupt charity that gets in the news...
Anyone who sends money to the UN or the red cross is a sucker who is just trying to help himself feel better.
I like the salvation army.
lazs
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Originally posted by NUKE
What???
Duhh..??
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Im far to broke to give anything more than my prayers. However, sisnce rip is in such a charitable frame of mind I guilt him into donating in my name. For this unselfish act of kindness I would like to take this opportunity to allow you my peers to lavish me with praise and attaboys for my contribution. I would also like to extend a hearty :aok <~~to rip for donating for me.