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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Shane on December 28, 2004, 08:33:06 PM
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For your enlightment and glimpse into the wonderful world of ACM and E-management, I present:
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/150_1104286893_film48.ahf
sad thing is he probably doesn't even realize why he lost, which was merely using angles then speed to make sure he stayed out front.
:aok
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WTG GHI (you have to watch the film).
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Hi Shane,
I get error message with film viewer. I guess I dont have a proper map.
Which map is used? TY
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would much rather seen a film where you whipped up on me Shane...........
:)
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ozkansas...
your film folder may also be too full, esp if you have more than 100 films.
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Originally posted by Shane
sad thing is he probably doesn't even realize why he lost, which was merely using angles then speed to make sure he stayed out front.
:aok
in my amateur opinion, he lost the merge because he went for the HO shot rather than focussing on position. He never recovered from the lousy position after the first merge and it was all downhill for him after that.
Anyone who still thinks HO's are a great idea should probably watch this.
The 51 should have probably got you ,he was d300 with a nice shot, must have got stage fright ;)
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You pull up at the merge much sooner then I ever think to. Doesn't your belly get shot up all to hell often? Sort of an experience thing to know when to do?
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Originally posted by Vudak
You pull up at the merge much sooner then I ever think to. Doesn't your belly get shot up all to hell often? Sort of an experience thing to know when to do?
Exactly. A bit of a twist on the initial loop does wonders to throw off the ho dweeb. Then just come over the top and humiliate the baby seal :D
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actually, i rarely take hits on that merge, for 3 reasons:
1. i'm often under their nose - or heading that way
2. they're not expecting you to cut up and across and only have a brief snap shot
3. they're usually going for the HO
i usually do this aournd 800-1k out to avoid the (potential/most likely) HO, maybe sooner 1.5k or so out if i want to get an early start on the inevitable FW runner-type, or to present my 6 as bait and then get the overshoot, hoping they committed. the further under them i can get, the earlier i'll do it since i'm out of their view.
any closer in than 800 and you're begging to get hit by a HO as often as not.
how often are you taking HO/Ram? ;)
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Originally posted by Vudak
You pull up at the merge much sooner then I ever think to. Doesn't your belly get shot up all to hell often? Sort of an experience thing to know when to do?
you wouldn't get pinged more than 1 in a 100, it's a very hard shot for them to make - - if you go low on merge, under their nose - they are trying to make a neg G shot which is very hard to do. best the might have is a snapshot as u go up and across.
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Originally posted by Redd
in my amateur opinion, he lost the merge because he went for the HO shot rather than focussing on position. He never recovered from the lousy position after the first merge and it was all downhill for him after that.
Anyone who still thinks HO's are a great idea should probably watch this.
The 51 should have probably got you ,he was d300 with a nice shot, must have got stage fright ;)
There's one reason why these guys did so badly...They stink, period. That was about the worst Hurricane flying I've seen in a long time, and I spend 75% of my online time training noobs (thankfully, not these two). That guy flying the P-51 couldn't buy a clue if his name was Bill Gates. Shane was absolutely correct when he typed "seals" in the text buffer.
I watched the Hurricane wondering when he was going to reverse, but he seemed utterly confused, almost certainly having lost sight of Shane. Meanwhile, Shane executed a nice vertical reverse, pulling off power and using flaps over the top to tighten it up nicely. At no time did the Hurricane pilot ever utilize his turning advantage to its full ability. Instead, he carried too much speed most of the time, negating his advantage. Not only that, but he missed by a mile on the original HO attempt, which Shane avoided easily enough.
What about that guy in the P-51? Terrible shooting. No clue what to do when Shane went vertical again. Shane did the wise thing and eliminated the Hurricane and its dangerous Hispanos first. However, the guy in the P-51 had an excellent opportunity, which he blew due to several factors. Horrible gunnery, and no ACM skill whatsoever.
Seals indeed. There's fewer players that have any command of ACM then ever before (since I started 3 years ago), and even less who know how to exploit their aircraft's advantages.
Anyway, maybe that spanking will send these two guys to the TA or DA for practice. Then again, probably not. ;)
My regards,
Widewing
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I was kinda thinking the Hurricane was keeping his speed up on purpose.
I've reviewed the speeds between the Hog and the Hurricane throughout the film and frankly, the Hurricane was way faster than he should have been.
The only reason I could think of was that the Hurri wanted a timed reversal that left the Hog right in front of him without much speed advantage. I don't think it's anything too strange - in truth these kind of mistakes are pretty much common in the MA.
Probably the Hurri pilot was pretty much confident that most pilots he would meet in that area would be less in skill than himself, so he takes a 'inferior' Hurri up, and then sees a F4U that engages that sticks around and dares to rolling scissor a Hurricane.
He probably thought it was a good opportunity to get a kill, but if he spent too much E in decisive evasives he won't ever get a chance to down the Hog if it points down and decides to run away.
So I think the Hurricane pulled stunts a bit too close, and didn't realize this was not a normal Hog pilot, until he got the first hit and the damage to the plane forced him to panic or something.
I make that kind of mistakes too. I'm not a good pilot, but if I ever see someone who's seemingly worse than I am, I'd try to "lure" him to latch on to me if I'm in a slower plane.
I'd make half-hearted evasives, thinking the guy behind me probably will not hit me, and try not to maneuver too much, because if my plane is so much slower than him, getting an overshoot won't result in anything, since I still can't shoot him down due to the speed difference.
So, I'd loosen up in the turns, try to seduce the faster plane to lead turn on me, and time a reversal when both of us would be low in speed. A risky business, but it usually works in the MA against the 'seals'.
Ofcourse, from time to time I get to actually meet someone who's not a 'seal'.. and then things would go bad.
I dunno, but I think the same thing happened to the Hurri pilot. I doubt he'd be flying the Hurricane so fast with so loose turns, if he knew that the Hog pilot behind him was very competent.
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Originally posted by Widewing
There's one reason why these guys did so badly...They stink, period. That was about the worst Hurricane flying I've seen in a long time, and I spend 75% of my online time training noobs (thankfully, not these two). That guy flying the P-51 couldn't buy a clue if his name was Bill Gates. Shane was absolutely correct when he typed "seals" in the text buffer.
I watched the Hurricane wondering when he was going to reverse, but he seemed utterly confused, almost certainly having lost sight of Shane. Meanwhile, Shane executed a nice vertical reverse, pulling off power and using flaps over the top to tighten it up nicely. At no time did the Hurricane pilot ever utilize his turning advantage to its full ability. Instead, he carried too much speed most of the time, negating his advantage. Not only that, but he missed by a mile on the original HO attempt, which Shane avoided easily enough.
What about that guy in the P-51? Terrible shooting. No clue what to do when Shane went vertical again. Shane did the wise thing and eliminated the Hurricane and its dangerous Hispanos first. However, the guy in the P-51 had an excellent opportunity, which he blew due to several factors. Horrible gunnery, and no ACM skill whatsoever.
Seals indeed. There's fewer players that have any command of ACM then ever before (since I started 3 years ago), and even less who know how to exploit their aircraft's advantages.
Anyway, maybe that spanking will send these two guys to the TA or DA for practice. Then again, probably not. ;)
My regards,
Widewing
Not sure that ridiculing newer players is all that helpful to anyone though. We all started somewhere.
At least they were in planes having a go :)
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well, Shane had a good reason I guess to type what he did, but just because DmdChief got whipped up on then JJ169th, there is no reason to slam them like what has happened here........
one would think an AH Trainer would have been more polite and offer to help rather than saying
I spend 75% of my time training noobs ( thankfully not these 2)
what part of that is any type of being a Trainer?
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with that 'tude, dont really matter how much ACM you know....
Hope thats not how you handle peeps in the TA , No +'s for u
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nothing special about that clip apart from highlighting your sucky aim shane :D
think i got a nice one of fighting in a Spit V yesterday, will see if i can find it.
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the hurricane was a good kill, but he was obviously not expecting a hog to turn fight him. as redd says he lost because he ho'ed.
the pony was kinda poor in his gunnery, he had you cold.
ACM is just a fancy name for decent flying. alot of folks use ACM manouvers without even realising it.
you are good shane, but no need to belittle your food after eating it ;)
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here ya go, nothing fancy, just a couple of merged clips of furballing in Spit V, unfortunately i wasn't filming the first sortie, had couple of awesome fights in it :(: -
film (http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/71_1104322348_spitv.zip)
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Originally posted by Furball
nothing special about that clip apart from highlighting your sucky aim shane :D
think i got a nice one of fighting in a Spit V yesterday, will see if i can find it.
lol, no kidding. my aim sucks. i have to wear people down for the kill.
kweassa... they knew it was me. i was in that area for quite a while encountering them, and others. i was ragging on the damned last evening. for being timid hordemonkeys.
widewing, your assessment was correct, albeit a little harsh, but perhaps it'll sting enough to motivate. cod knows there wasn't anything unique about the encounter, could interchange numerous names - and not necessarily noobs. plenty of people with enough time in game would have met the same fate, sadly.
it's the staying inside the comfort zone that so many seem hesitant to leave, despite it being just a game in which no one dies. there's no reason for anyone not to try, die and learn from it. squad tactics are perfectly valid, but one should brush up on all aspects because some day you'll encounter someone with a clue and you'll be... all alone.... in the rain...
yeah tc, i did, it was part psych-ops, part in-yo-face and allllll me. :D hopefully they'll take away something positive from it, be it the fact that a hog can be dangerous, acm rocks, or simply that they better stick to the safety of the bigger horde or be prepared to die often, as they learn the ropes. those guys aren't total noobs.
bat... being called a seal is hardly "belittling." mmmmmm?
but... the actual bottom line to all this is:
la7?!? i doan need no steenkin' la7!!!
:D
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lol shane you always said your aim sucks, i didn't know you meant that bad.;) :)
Furball we have to wing up again sometime- the p51 sortie was fun.:) If we are all posting films i'll post one later.
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I don't think posting a film here to publicly ridicule and humilate the flyers that you beat in a 2v1 is going to serve as much motivation for them. Or anyone else for that matter, who may be considering a break away from the safety of horde to try small numbers combat-- not if they suspect a film of their performance may be posted publicly for everyone to laugh at.
I think your behavior here encourages exactly the kind of flying you despise. How much better would it have been to praise them for whatever they did right, or at least encourage them with helpful advice? You can catch more flies with honey than vinegar.
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Originally posted by thrila
Furball we have to wing up again sometime- the p51 sortie was fun.:) If we are all posting films i'll post one later.
yeah, til you augered like a noob LOL
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lol u sob.:D That auger was 37mm assisted!
If i remember correctly we had killed all the enemy planes and there was sod else left to do. Nothing like recreating the star wars trench run with a dozen or so osties shooting at you, not that i saw them til i was about d1.0 close.:D
Here's afilm (http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/87_1104328311_spit9v190s.ahf) for you. This was pre pedals- now i can't shoot for peanuts.
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Originally posted by thrila
lol u sob.:D That auger was 37mm assisted!
If i remember correctly we had killed all the enemy planes and there was sod else left to do. Nothing like recreating the star wars trench run with a dozen or so osties shooting at you, not that i saw them til i was about d1.0 close.:D
didnt you auger, lose both wings and slide along the ground looking like some weird land speed record car?
think we had 41 kills between us that sortie!
now all we need is a camo RAF mustang skin, not ghey silver like 14 of the other 15 skins.
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The first wing came off to a 37mm hit, the second came off on contact with the floor.....and then i set a new landspeed record.:D Then some evil bugger killed me in a manned ack as my plane sat on the field.
37mm assisted i tell you!!! Would i be so stupid as to rip off my wings and crash....? oh wait don't answer that one.
Green RAF skin would be great
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Not picking on anyone here ... but this films does tell alot.
First ...
The Hurri lost as soon as he went for the HO at 1K-800d out. When will people learn that when trying to land an HO at these closure rates, you have to concentrate too much on landing the shot(s). Going for the HO against someone who isn't going to do the same has to be the hardest shot in all of AH. Once committed to the HO shot, if you miss, and you have run into at least a half decent stick, you are gonna get schooled.
Once committed to the HO, you have very little options during and after the merge ... in most cases, they just stay straight and run, but in this case the Hurri did go for the reversal (cudos for that) but it was way too late (even in a Hurri), Shane had already made his move way before the Hurri, so at that point Shane had the upper-hand and never gave it up.
The P-51 ... he brought a knife to a gun fight. Granted he tried his best to help clear Chief, but it doesn't appear that he has many hours behind the stick in a P-51. A little flappage and Shane would have been toast.
Second ...
When will you people learn that when Shane goes into his diatribe on 200, he works you up into a frenzy and takes you out of your normal game. I know that Chief is a better flyer than what this film shows, but I would bet the ranch that after the ribbing from Shane (towards the Damned) he was so intent on trying to take Shane out, he made the silly mistakes that he did.
Shane is like the middle linebacker on the other side of the line talking trash. Back "in the day", I played all sorts of team sports at high levels, and there is ALWAYS one of these guys on the other team. They are usually very good and its their goal to take you out of your game. Shane will get you so pissed that you will forget all the training you have had and let your emotions take over. Once that happens ... you are completely "owned".
With Shanes abilities, its not a good thing to fly against him emotionally, cause he will spank you. Even if you aren't emotionally all stirred up, Shane can still spank like only a few in this game can, so going into a fight with with Shane, with 2 strikes against you ... good fuggin' luck.
I like Shane ... well ... I didn't until I figured him out. I have learned a tremendous amount from him and so have many others. He has taken more people to the MA in a state of frenzy and when the testosterone level subsides, he then TEACHES like no one I have ever seen before.
Keep swallowing his bait guys ... and he will keep casting ... and land many fish.
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Originally posted by Furball
here ya go, nothing fancy, just a couple of merged clips of furballing in Spit V, unfortunately i wasn't filming the first sortie, had couple of awesome fights in it :(: -
film (http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/71_1104322348_spitv.zip)
Geeeesh ... every single one of those guys flew right in front of your plane. You must be a practitioner in the art of Jedi mind tricks ... "Furballs plane IS NOT behind you ... fly straigt and level".
;)
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Originally posted by SlapShot
Geeeesh ... every single one of those guys flew right in front of your plane. You must be a practitioner in the art of Jedi mind tricks ... "Furballs plane IS NOT behind you ... fly straigt and level".
;)
Without looking at it again i dont know, i try and position myself below my target's tail so they lose vis on me most of the time, not sure if that was the case here.
Anyway, if they do level off, it sux.. i have a real hard time hitting them when its not a deflection shot!
I should have died early in most of those, and i nearly augered at one point looking behind me (yes, that is mostly how i die, luckily for me no tree's in the way this time)
Originally posted by SlapShot
You must be a practitioner in the art of Jedi mind tricks ... "Furballs plane IS NOT behind you ... fly straigt and level"
I like that... you may have to replace skuzzy in my sig line ;)
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Originally posted by Furball
Without looking at it again i dont know, i try and position myself below my target's tail so they lose vis on me most of the time, not sure if that was the case here.
Anyway, if they do level off, it sux.. i have a real hard time hitting them when its not a deflection shot!
I should have died early in most of those, and i nearly augered at one point looking behind me (yes, that is mostly how i die, luckily for me no tree's in the way this time)
I like that... you may have to replace skuzzy in my sig line ;)
I was only pullin' your leg Furball.
Your style of flying is very similar to mine. After making them miss, I then try and get into a position where they have a hard time reaquiring me ... hence they fly straight and level (I SUX at the 6 shot too - finding ZOOM helps on this) or they just do a flat turn, all the while trying to find me ... then its too late.
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Originally posted by TequilaChaser
well, Shane had a good reason I guess to type what he did, but just because DmdChief got whipped up on then JJ169th, there is no reason to slam them like what has happened here........
#1 - they are my squad mates and I have seen them pull off some great fights even being out numbered.
#2 no one here watching the films knows if either one of them was flying fatigued, having a bad day, or trying to fight and talk on the phone at same time..thing is we just don't know
Shane is a good pilot, but the rest on here throwing out their opinions are probably not much better than the 2 downed pilots in the film, if you are better at all........
Nice way to slam someone by calling them noobs, clueless, seals, etc.......
Widewing, you are a "Class Act"
as far as sending them to the TA or DA because they got a spanking, are u saying Ghosth, or Ren, or Coach or others didn't do a good job for 1 of the fellows in the film?
I would be amazed if you could do any better flying with your best wingman verse Shane......
I guess it is easy to sit back and pick apart how another flys and gets killed , as long it isn't yourself!
to much BS in this thread!
TC, that film showed me two guys who did poorly. They both did just about everything wrong once they engaged. And yes, I was too harsh. And I apologize for that. Nonetheless, that doesn't mean I wasn't correct. You are right in that we don't know what other things influenced their flying. However, we can only judge what we do know and that's what we see in the film.
DMDChief started by not using the Hurricane's only performance asset from the outset. If he assumed that the F4U would not maneuver, then he had already screwed the pooch. Always assume the enemy is going to try to kill you. Had he pulled off power early and executed a vertical reverse on the merge, he would have had Shane cold as Shane's greater E would have left him exposed for a shot as he came over the top. Waiting to see what Shane did first was his doom.
I think DMDChief should think a bit more about what he plans to do to the enemy rather than react after the fact. I watched my nephew blow Chief out of the sky 4 times the other night because he kept reupping and flying suicide runs in a P-38. So, viewing this film only confirmed the impression that left. He's been flying for just 3 months or so. He could benefit from some additional ACM training.
jj169th is simply a new player with insufficient ACM training. Again, I apologize for being rude. jj, you are welcome to fly my wing in the TA while I beat the snot out of TC, then we can switch roles. ;)
Seriously TC, you're a Trainer, train these guys for crissake, they're your squadies! Hell, tell me when and I'll help you. Geez, my squad spends a lot of time in the TA and DA. We work on every aspect of the game. I take individual squad members there and we work on basic ACM and tactics. I worked with SuperDud the other day. I flew the P-51B he had a SpitV. We had fights exactly like Shane and Chief did. SuperDud asked, "How the heck did you reverse onto my 6 so fast?" I both explained and demonstrated how to do it. SuperDud came back with "That's exactly what Furball did to me the other day!" Now he knows how to counter the vertical reverse well enough to give Furball a tougher time of in their next meeting. I coach my nephew when he flies by sitting next to him. Good 'ol Leviathn gave him a terrific lesson he won't be forgetting anytime soon. I got him to reup and go back, but he chickened out at the last minute, leaving me the unenviable task of getting his revenge. While he has learned enough to hold his own in the MA, he prefers GVs, buffs, shed bombing and manned guns. So, I let him do his thing, even if he porks my stats (which he does, but I frankly don't care much about scores). Now that Santa has provided him with a new computer, I expect he'll have his own account in January. He needs a handle, but didn't care for my suggestion: Megaputz.....
There's more to training than the quasi-nursery school program we generally have to run in the TA. Sure, there's a big need for teaching the basics of getting the airplane off and back onto the ground, of learning the various game functions. But that certainly does not produce players ready for the MA.
I like to take a few of these guys away from the base and work on things like managing their E, managing the merge, judging the enemy's E, determining intent and basic counters to attacks. We really need some sort of formalized advanced training. We simply do not stress SA enough either. SA is the real factor that creates the divide between good players and poor players. All the ACM skills in the world won't help you if you never see the enemy.
Confident players are better players and they enjoy the game more as a result.
Noobs simply fighting other noobs means that they never rise above the level of their competition. That breeds a false confidence. We need to be spending more time teaching these guys how to cope with what they will face in the MA. A few days ago Fester came into the TA to try the Ki-84 and shake off any rust. We had a blast furballing with his Ki-84 and my P-51B. Some of the noobs actually learned a few things by participating and watching. Fester let it be known that he was fair game and soon had a dozen noobs hard after him. Fester's comment was that "this is more fun than the MA!" Most of the new guys had fun too. They had a chance to mix it up with one of the game's better players without the social stigma of getting whacked in the MA and without having to re-plane after getting smacked. Two guys told me that they learned more fighting Fester than they had learned during months in the MA. One fellow filmed the whole thing and spent hours reviewing the film. When I last talked to him he said, "man, you can't imagine how much that helped me." Well, yes I can imagine that.
I've gone to the DA with Urchin where he schooled me on the merge about 10 times before I figured out his moves. That was invaluable to me. I'll gladly take a beating just to learn what guys like Lev, Urchin and Badboy already know. All three of these guys are willing to go to the DA and work with a player who sincerely wants to learn. That goes for Shane as well. Shane is always ready to help people learn ACM. I don't begrudge Shane his smack-talk, because he will turn around and spend hours of his time teaching the same guys he just ragged, and do it gladly.
That is the stuff we should be teaching noobs before they find themselves in the MA getting their butts kicked. But, the noobs themselves have to realize that they need training and ask for help. The general level of ACM skills HAS deteriorated over the past few years. Thankfully, we have more and more of the skilled players dropping into the TA and are sharing their experience. Badboy is in there frequently. Hammer is back with the trainer corps and is a huge asset. Ghosth loves to teach ACM, and he's a good teacher. Fuseman's always working his butt off with new players. I don't see much of TC, Ren or the others, probably because we have vastly differing schedules.
What we really need is more of the better players to take an interest in the new players. Come to the TA and work with them for an hour here and there. Yeah, I know the TA lacks exploding planes, but the benefit comes from elevating the general level of play in the MA. Speaking just for myself, I'm always grateful for the help because I must spend much of my time teaching the absolute basics. Anytime I see Badboy in the TA I know that the new players will have a skilled player to teach them some ACM and SA. The rest of you can make a difference too.
My regards,
Widewing
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I was hoping to seen a film of MacMAWs Yak ripping Shane a new hole in his F4U. Then the hours of Shane decrying the kill in several different scenarios.
1st there was a chitload of Yaks.
2nd there were no Yaks, that he turfed.
3rd I HO'd him.
4th I used a cheat code.
5th it nevar happened.
6th refer to the 1st excuse.
ROTFLMAO!!!!!
:rofl
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I watched my nephew blow Chief out of the sky 4 times the other night because he kept reupping and flying suicide runs in a P-38
guess this was when we was going for the cv
jj169th is simply a new player with insufficient ACM training. Again, I apologize for being rude. jj, you are welcome to fly my wing in the TA while I beat the snot out of TC, then we can switch roles.
I'll take this as a joking comment
Seriously TC, you're a Trainer, train these guys for crissake, they're your squadies
if they ask me, yes I'll help, even offer if they don't ask.............1 cannot hold a gun to anyones head
now for the rest of your reply and the first post, I did not realize how proud or arrogant you seem to be........is glad to know we got a kickarse superduper Trainer that gives so much to the AH community :aok hope your back don't hurt from all that patting going on there.......stuff like this is not my cup of tea! and if that is how the Trainers OF AH are going to reply and comment or talk to others then I damn sure don't want to be a part of it!!!
I only help train because I enjoy helping others, and I want to pass on what others have taught me, I do not need no glory, pats on the back, no need to thump my chest or say how many times I smacked someone down........if you ever find me doing that I am doing it in a joking or frinedly manner and the other person is doing the same................
I find the below post by SlapShot to be the most fitting, and as I had thought earlier, Shane had a reason for typing "seals" in the text buffer, in which there is alot more to it than just typing "seals" but that has no bearing here now......
When will you people learn that when Shane goes into his diatribe on 200, he works you up into a frenzy and takes you out of your normal game. I know that Chief is a better flyer than what this film shows, but I would bet the ranch that after the ribbing from Shane (towards the Damned) he was so intent on trying to take Shane out, he made the silly mistakes that he did
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Originally posted by Widewing
TC, that film showed me two guys who did poorly. They both did just about everything wrong once they engaged. And yes, I was too harsh. And I apologize for that. Nonetheless, that doesn't mean I wasn't correct. You are right in that we don't know what other things influenced their flying. However, we can only judge what we do know and that's what we see in the film.
How about you don't judge. Who exactly gave you the head judge spot in here? You guys - Veterinarians - can claim all you want that you do this for the comunity, and maybe a few of you do. Most of you though do it for yourselfs. Noone told you how great a pilot you are for a couple of days and you come in here telling us how great you are and what idiots the rest od us are.
I am not saing you are not great pilots. You are. That does not give you any right to humiliate other people in here or in the game. Here is an example of the help I got from the great ones: one of the few time I got to kill Shane the great, his contructive critisism was "ha ha ha, was going to be out of fuel soon anyway". I learned to use the keyboard from that encounter.
So, as virtual pilots you may be great, your personalities need some TA time for sure.
Regards and STFU. No one asked you.
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ok, I went over the line............
lets drop this and let it get buried......
or someone lock it.......
everyone of us sees things from a different perspective.........that is all that is going on here........
Widewing is a good person, as well a Shane, me well I am me and I tend to open my mouth ( keyboard ) to fast , to soon at times!
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Originally posted by AWMac
I was hoping to seen a film of MacMAWs Yak ripping Shane a new hole in his F4U. Then the hours of Shane decrying the kill in several different scenarios.
1st there was a chitload of Yaks.
2nd there were no Yaks, that he turfed.
3rd I HO'd him.
4th I used a cheat code.
5th it nevar happened.
6th refer to the 1st excuse.
ROTFLMAO!!!!!
:rofl
lie harder, son, this ain't convincing enough for those who know both of us.
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JOUST MASTER
i love when they try to dive under my nose..
please ..please do this
next......................... ......
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Hi All..
I'm a bit new here but I thought I would give you guys a newbie's point of view. I've been flying AH for about a year now and love the game. I never tune to 200. I agree that some poeple try to play head games in an attempt to get me off my game plan when fighting.
I came from brand WB flight sim where there is alot of things wrong, but one thing they used to do right was training. Trainers would pick different fighters and give a 2 or 3 day class on how to use it in air combat. To do this, they would bring in a respected pilot who flew the aircraft most of the time. They usually had no trouble getting 10 guys to take these classes. As a matter of fact, most of the time these classes would fill quickly. Maybe your trainers might want to give thhis a try? I would love to learn how to fly the F4U. I do okey in it, but I know there are people who are really good at it.
I think the newbies could gain alot from this and maybe make the game more fun for you old hats as well.
Slot
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Still IN denial Shane?
:rofl
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Some of you jokers talk like you're the best of the best. Its just funny I think. :)
Shane is a watermelon talker with a motive and can back up his smack talking to boot. You can't hold that against him.
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Originally posted by Widewing
TC, that film showed me two guys who did poorly. They both did just about everything wrong once they engaged. And yes, I was too harsh. And I apologize for that. Nonetheless, that doesn't mean I wasn't correct. You are right in that we don't know what other things influenced their flying. However, we can only judge what we do know and that's what we see in the film.
DMDChief started by not using the Hurricane's only performance asset from the outset. If he assumed that the F4U would not maneuver, then he had already screwed the pooch. Always assume the enemy is going to try to kill you. Had he pulled off power early and executed a vertical reverse on the merge, he would have had Shane cold as Shane's greater E would have left him exposed for a shot as he came over the top. Waiting to see what Shane did first was his doom.
I think DMDChief should think a bit more about what he plans to do to the enemy rather than react after the fact. I watched my nephew blow Chief out of the sky 4 times the other night because he kept reupping and flying suicide runs in a P-38. So, viewing this film only confirmed the impression that left. He's been flying for just 3 months or so. He could benefit from some additional ACM training.
jj169th is simply a new player with insufficient ACM training. Again, I apologize for being rude. jj, you are welcome to fly my wing in the TA while I beat the snot out of TC, then we can switch roles. ;)
Seriously TC, you're a Trainer, train these guys for crissake, they're your squadies! Hell, tell me when and I'll help you. Geez, my squad spends a lot of time in the TA and DA. We work on every aspect of the game. I take individual squad members there and we work on basic ACM and tactics. I worked with SuperDud the other day. I flew the P-51B he had a SpitV. We had fights exactly like Shane and Chief did. SuperDud asked, "How the heck did you reverse onto my 6 so fast?" I both explained and demonstrated how to do it. SuperDud came back with "That's exactly what Furball did to me the other day!" Now he knows how to counter the vertical reverse well enough to give Furball a tougher time of in their next meeting. I coach my nephew when he flies by sitting next to him. Good 'ol Leviathn gave him a terrific lesson he won't be forgetting anytime soon. I got him to reup and go back, but he chickened out at the last minute, leaving me the unenviable task of getting his revenge. While he has learned enough to hold his own in the MA, he prefers GVs, buffs, shed bombing and manned guns. So, I let him do his thing, even if he porks my stats (which he does, but I frankly don't care much about scores). Now that Santa has provided him with a new computer, I expect he'll have his own account in January. He needs a handle, but didn't care for my suggestion: Megaputz.....
There's more to training than the quasi-nursery school program we generally have to run in the TA. Sure, there's a big need for teaching the basics of getting the airplane off and back onto the ground, of learning the various game functions. But that certainly does not produce players ready for the MA.
I like to take a few of these guys away from the base and work on things like managing their E, managing the merge, judging the enemy's E, determining intent and basic counters to attacks. We really need some sort of formalized advanced training. We simply do not stress SA enough either. SA is the real factor that creates the divide between good players and poor players. All the ACM skills in the world won't help you if you never see the enemy.
Confident players are better players and they enjoy the game more as a result.
Noobs simply fighting other noobs means that they never rise above the level of their competition. That breeds a false confidence. We need to be spending more time teaching these guys how to cope with what they will face in the MA. A few days ago Fester came into the TA to try the Ki-84 and shake off any rust. We had a blast furballing with his Ki-84 and my P-51B. Some of the noobs actually learned a few things by participating and watching. Fester let it be known that he was fair game and soon had a dozen noobs hard after him. Fester's comment was that "this is more fun than the MA!" Most of the new guys had fun too. They had a chance to mix it up with one of the game's better players without the social stigma of getting whacked in the MA and without having to re-plane after getting smacked. Two guys told me that they learned more fighting Fester than they had learned during months in the MA. One fellow filmed the whole thing and spent hours reviewing the film. When I last talked to him he said, "man, you can't imagine how much that helped me." Well, yes I can imagine that.
I've gone to the DA with Urchin where he schooled me on the merge about 10 times before I figured out his moves. That was invaluable to me. I'll gladly take a beating just to learn what guys like Lev, Urchin and Badboy already know. All three of these guys are willing to go to the DA and work with a player who sincerely wants to learn. That goes for Shane as well. Shane is always ready to help people learn ACM. I don't begrudge Shane his smack-talk, because he will turn around and spend hours of his time teaching the same guys he just ragged, and do it gladly.
That is the stuff we should be teaching noobs before they find themselves in the MA getting their butts kicked. But, the noobs themselves have to realize that they need training and ask for help. The general level of ACM skills HAS deteriorated over the past few years. Thankfully, we have more and more of the skilled players dropping into the TA and are sharing their experience. Badboy is in there frequently. Hammer is back with the trainer corps and is a huge asset. Ghosth loves to teach ACM, and he's a good teacher. Fuseman's always working his butt off with new players. I don't see much of TC, Ren or the others, probably because we have vastly differing schedules.
What we really need is more of the better players to take an interest in the new players. Come to the TA and work with them for an hour here and there. Yeah, I know the TA lacks exploding planes, but the benefit comes from elevating the general level of play in the MA. Speaking just for myself, I'm always grateful for the help because I must spend much of my time teaching the absolute basics. Anytime I see Badboy in the TA I know that the new players will have a skilled player to teach them some ACM and SA. The rest of you can make a difference too.
My regards,
Widewing
You really do enjoy the sound of your own keystrokes. ;)
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So here we are again... bigmouth is ragging on someone who can't fly as good as he does. Maybe coach was having a bad night, maybe he doesn't fly hurri's alot, maybe if you shoot them down you should just relish the fact you won and leave it at that. But since Shane likes to poke fun at people in a public forum and post films for everyone to see, I thought I'd post one I have of him. This is 616Fubar in a p40 killing both shane and hammy in their la7s. Funny, I don't see any horde in this one, seems like a pretty fair fight, and at the end.... gee who misses the easy 6 shot while the teeny weeny p40 is busy with another la7? Hmmmmm I wonder. If you fly like you say others should, you should've let fubar get back on his feet before re-engaging, but you tried to cherry him, then lost, in your own ride to a (this can be disputed) lesser plane. Enjoy, and happy new year =)
Film (http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/816_1104375221_deathofshane.ahf)
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Originally posted by Howitzer
So here we are again... bigmouth is ragging on someone who can't fly as good as he does. Maybe coach was having a bad night, maybe he doesn't fly hurri's alot, maybe if you shoot them down you should just relish the fact you won and leave it at that. But since Shane likes to poke fun at people in a public forum and post films for everyone to see, I thought I'd post one I have of him. This is 616Fubar in a p40 killing both shane and hammy in their la7s. Funny, I don't see any horde in this one, seems like a pretty fair fight, and at the end.... gee who misses the easy 6 shot while the teeny weeny p40 is busy with another la7? Hmmmmm I wonder. If you fly like you say others should, you should've let fubar get back on his feet before re-engaging, but you tried to cherry him, then lost, in your own ride to a (this can be disputed) lesser plane. Enjoy, and happy new year =)
Film (http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/816_1104375221_deathofshane.ahf)
Damn, I sure hope films of me dying don't start turning up, onpoi.net will run out bandwidth and server space
Nice flying tho Fubar
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Originally posted by Howitzer
This is 616Fubar in a p40 killing both shane and hammy in their la7s.
even a blind dog finds a bone once in a while. don't *you* have any films of your own? why must dweebs like you always talk smack behind *others'* efforts?
you have no clue as to why i actually posted this film, but i guess you feel compelled to hump my ankle, as usual.
try harder.
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Originally posted by Shane
how often are you taking HO/Ram? ;)
Well, I get ho'd at pretty darn often, but as of now I've been trying to get some lateral seperation and maybe start a hard break turn with a bit of vertical in it (depending) about 400 out from them... Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever broke sooner.
I'm going to have to log on and try this one out.
Edit - Also, if any of you trainers/teachers/seal clubbers are planning on having a class sometime, let me know! I've read a lot of old, OLD, lectures, etc. where there are a few fellows in on it. How come this doesn't happen anymore? Am I just not aware of it?
I'd go.
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I dont ask to be Crowned killer of Shane, Just saying nice flying would make me happy.
Shane
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Originally posted by Shane
even a blind dog finds a bone once in a while. don't *you* have any films of your own? why must dweebs like you always talk smack behind *others'* efforts?
you have no clue as to why i actually posted this film, but i guess you feel compelled to hump my ankle, as usual.
try harder.
I don't run film... You got owned... you are running out of excuses, keep shrugging it off. I know why you posted it, so you could pat yourself on the back and call peole out in public. I really don't care about your little pathetic quest to embarrass folks into flying like you do. Just another instance where you knock someone over and over, you get your butt handed to you and you clam up. I don't need to prove myself to anyone in this silly game. You're the one that needs to try harder, cus your lame excuses and boring old comments are getting stale. Take some time and write some new material and get back to me. :aok Take care dweeb wannabe. :D
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you sure seem to be trying hard to prove *something*
cheer up maybe you'll get the recognition you so crave one of these days.... you won't get it humping my ankle, or riding other's coat-tails, tho'
and again, assume whatever you want about my motivations for posting this - you'll still be wrong.
now go work on your rank a bit more, #10 just doesn't seem to be giving you that recognition.
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See! Proof the mighty P-40 PWN3s the Elgay 7! haha! Quah! Fear it!
Damn if it wasn't Fubbie lmfao :rofl
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I have 1300+ films in my film folder I dont think filling it is an issue
Monkeymeat
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Originally posted by Shane
you sure seem to be trying hard to prove *something*
cheer up maybe you'll get the recognition you so crave one of these days.... you won't get it humping my ankle, or riding other's coat-tails, tho'
and again, assume whatever you want about my motivations for posting this - you'll still be wrong.
now go work on your rank a bit more, #10 just doesn't seem to be giving you that recognition.
Ooooh checking up on me eh? Thought rank means nothing, yet you always check that first when you talk to someone. Just like you don't go after planes who are already engaged and "pick" them. LOL recognition? I'm not the one acting like he's the pope calling out all those who don't match up to him. You are the only baby here sucking his thumb looking for people to pay attention to him. Let us know when you grow up.
See, fub gives you a and you still want to belittle him after he handed you your butt fair and square... Just like I thought, whiny little baby with a big mouth. Go sit in your little corner shane, I'll point at you when I want you to talk again :)
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i always check roster and sort by rank when i log in to see if there's any "good" players that will be fun to look for.
you're jealous you're not getting any attention - it's the only reason i can think of for you to insist on hanging onto me like a dingleberry.
how do you figure i belittled fubs *after* he gave the ? reading is phundamental.
now go back to milking your stats. you seem to be the kind of fragile ego'd clueless seal who equates rank with "skill."
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Originally posted by FuBaR
I dont ask to be Crowned killer of Shane, Just saying nice flying would make me happy. Shane
To the DA Fubby. :p
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The irony is that the Dammed are a fighting squad (as much as we do anything together); not a strat squad; and we all highly respect Shane's flying.
It's just that Chief (who's Texan); regards Shane as some kind of funny import to Texas; Dano thinks Shane dresses funny; Chi says Shane doesn't dress himself; it's his mum's fault and Coach says that really Shane's from Oklahoma.
Group hug; everybody!
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hah! you're all wrong!! culero has taught me how not to dress at all!!
so the next time time you've been shot down, imagine...
:aok
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I'll throw in my 2 cents as a guy starting to get a hold of ACMs. My finding in the MA is that most of the newer players (1 year or less) have no idea how to apply ACMs. They never go to the TA, thinking they don't need it because they have a decent rank and can BnZ a few kills and run home. But if they ever get caught low and/or slow(or sadly even co alt) they have no idea what to do and either go into turn fighting mode or drop what alt they can for speed in an attempt to run. I did this very same thing my first week here but got tired of dying in turn fights(my P51 vs spits) and actually a little bored with it. And I can admit that if I get caught low and slow, 80% of the time I'm still dead, but at least I make the person work for it and every now and then I'll pull a nice reversal and nail them as they zoom in. The major problem is the MA has turned into a BnZ event. The new guys don't see any problem with their flying and figure if they get caught low and slow then it's their fault and it's just natural to get shot down. They don't realize there's a whole other world out there that doesn't result in death. One of the sadest things I've seen lately is the co-alt meeting. You'll meet co-alt, then get the HO attempt followed by the dive to run away or to friends. That really boggles my mind! 1V1 and they run? The point to this is most new players have no clue about ACMs because they jump right into the MA, get a grip for how to fly in there and presto, you have the BnZ HOer that is now the main group in the MA. If you vets see guys like this you should tell them that the TA and the DA really helps, or better yet, if you have time take them there yourselves. I tell players that all the time but don't think it gets any real consideration b/c I'm not a big name in the game. I bet coming from one of you would make a big difference. And as much as I bet he hates this getting out, Shane is just one of many that I have met in the MA that will stop what he's doing and go to the DA to help. While he's smacking me around it doesn't make much sense, but I later look at the films and I get it. Anyway, I've gone on long enough. Hope I didn't overstep my limit with this being a new guy but it's so hard to see this and not say anything.
all.
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Originally posted by Shane
For your enlightment and glimpse into the wonderful world of ACM and E-management, I present:
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/150_1104286893_film48.ahf
sad thing is he probably doesn't even realize why he lost, which was merely using angles then speed to make sure he stayed out front.
:aok
whats that ?
another movie, where you got shot down by someone on HO by rocket ? :D
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Originally posted by lada
whats that ?
another movie, where you got shot down by someone on HO by rocket ? :D
That's a film I'd pay to see!
:)
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yeah ... MBirdCz did that.... he did meet P51 in tiffie and he had no ammo.... so HOed that P51 and on 1.5k he fired his last Rocket. and on 1K he saw hit sprite..... P51 was Shane.... since that time we consider him to be ultra dummy pilot :D
or when i were cruising in tempest under the dark sky and then i did hear 2 pings from .50 .... 2 seconds later enmy P51 flow infront of me.... so i showed him swiss quality from my wings....... it was shane :D
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this was, what? 2 years ago? 18 months?
you need to stop living in the past. :aok
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Originally posted by Shane
i always check roster and sort by rank when i log in to see if there's any "good" players that will be fun to look for.
you're jealous you're not getting any attention - it's the only reason i can think of for you to insist on hanging onto me like a dingleberry.
how do you figure i belittled fubs *after* he gave the ? reading is phundamental.
now go back to milking your stats. you seem to be the kind of fragile ego'd clueless seal who equates rank with "skill."
Yeah whatever... I meant you belittle fubs after this fight. I see it all the time, and after he shut your mouth for you. I guess I will take that attention comment as a compliment coming from the attention king. The reason you see me in your "I'm the greatest posts" is because I think that you are so full of yourself that you enjoy making fun of folks who you shoot down, and calling out their mistakes to the world. I really don't even care that you say you do it to make them better, cus this is just a ploy to make them fly like you want, just to make the game more entertaining for you. Its alright shane, one day you'll wake up, and you'll realize you are the self-appointed king of a video game we all pay 15 bucks a month to play, and how sad that really is. Hope it comes soon for you though, this alter superior personality you built for yourself can't be healthy. Truly, depending how you look at it, you are probably the most clueless seal of them all :aok
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Originally posted by Howitzer
Yeah whatever... I meant you belittle fubs after this fight.
How so? There's nothing on the film to support that, even as it continues to run for a bit... oh, yeah, you're just ASSuming again, as usual.
Gotta love how you keep showing your cluelessness.
Anklehumpers like you are dime a dozen, but you are an amusing squeek-toy.
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Wow this is great there is no where in the world you can get this kind of entertainment for 14.95 a month. Hell I think I would pay 30.00 for it lol.
But on a serious note, I am sure the films got posted to help people more than anything but sitting behind a faceless, emotionless PC in this virtual world we forget who we are talking to in our safe comfort zones at home. I have never been to a convention but I can’t imagine people talking like this there? Please tell me if I’m wrong never been to one. We are all very competitive in AH and that’s a great part of the game. We all have to learn somewhere and are not born with ACM skills. I learned in AW2 & 3 and when I got good I was also a smack talking idiot moron also. Didn’t realize it till I stepped away from flying for like 2 or 3 years and I loved flying in AW. Been back about 3 months now of flying time and man I forgot a lot of ACM that I was good at. So you don’t have to be new just sometimes rusty. Needed to get the old Robert Shaw book and some AH films out to remember. Its as much fun knocking the rust off as it is to be flying and having fun. I love being in AH but need to start my WWII flight Sims AA meetings again, dam.
P.S. The only cure for the smack talkers is step away get rusty come back and you will see what you where really saying, It will be a eye opener.
I’m sure all the people in here are nice people face to face or taking the time to get to know them.
But Shane thanks for the films for everyone they will always help people and you will always still be OOPSIE to me. (Oopsie was a little quieter though and not as entertaining)
(I’m looking forward to the trash comments on my post it goes with the entertainment you people always provide me with thank you.)
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Originally posted by Shane
Anklehumpers like you are dime a dozen, but you are an amusing squeek-toy.
Sorry but I almost pissed myself on that comment ROFLMFAO.
entertainment indeed I want to pay more (still ROFL)
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Lol, I ranked #1 in attack this month.
Rank doesn't mean a damn thing as far as skill goes..
Hell, probably all the #2 guy has to do to get #1 in attack is go milkrun a couple factories.
There are plenty of "rank tutorials" on the BBS. It is just about as simple as making out a checklist and checking off all the boxes.
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wow i hope i dont show up in one of these films...:rofl
i think you all might exploit my moves of running in circles in a spit til either
a.) i get behind them and add another victim to my list
b.) their squad member boom and zooms me on the turns..
c.) they cant control their plane and violently greet trees, water, or whatever is anchored to the earth...
once again.. i hope.. i hope.. i dont how up as a victim on any of these films lol.. :rofl
navajo
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First off, Howi. Why do you keep biting on shanes freakin bait dude? You are doing exactly what you said he makes other people do. Shanes not all that bad once you get to know him. I couldnt stand the little punk when I first met him. Then I realized how much we had in common. We both just dont care. 8)
Honestly though, hes not so bad. Besides that, I own him in a 51 and i wont even mention the 38. Oops, i just did. :D
Seriously though, many days i would log on and find shane on Ch200 chattering away and I knew I'd be able to find a good fight. All you have to do is ask him where he's at and he'll meet ya. If you screw up, he'll make dam sure you know it but atleast your mistakes wont go over looked.
Big deal if he calls someone an anklehumper...? I He humps mine and I dont mind. Actually we hump eachothers but thats niether here nor there. When you get right down to it, shane is my biatch. errr I mean he's a real good dude and is willing to help anyone.
I vote shane.
errr wait. What was the question?
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Originally posted by iKo
Sorry but I almost pissed myself on that comment ROFLMFAO.
entertainment indeed I want to pay more (still ROFL)
me too... i'm glad i wasn't the only one to laugh over that one... hilarious!
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Originally posted by streetstang
First off, Howi. Why do you keep biting on shanes freakin bait dude? You are doing exactly what you said he makes other people do. Shanes not all that bad once you get to know him. I couldnt stand the little punk when I first met him. Then I realized how much we had in common. We both just dont care. 8)
Honestly though, hes not so bad. Besides that, I own him in a 51 and i wont even mention the 38. Oops, i just did. :D
Seriously though, many days i would log on and find shane on Ch200 chattering away and I knew I'd be able to find a good fight. All you have to do is ask him where he's at and he'll meet ya. If you screw up, he'll make dam sure you know it but atleast your mistakes wont go over looked.
Big deal if he calls someone an anklehumper...? I He humps mine and I dont mind. Actually we hump eachothers but thats niether here nor there. When you get right down to it, shane is my biatch. errr I mean he's a real good dude and is willing to help anyone.
I vote shane.
errr wait. What was the question?
Honestly morph, really don't care to know him one bit. To say he doesn't care is also off the mark, he cares... he cares about publicly humiliating anyone he gets the better of. I do what I do because I like to hear him yammer about how good he is when it really makes no overall difference one way or another. I think he is a sad and pathetic soul who always has an excuse when he dies, so I throw some comments back over the wall straight to him. Far as I can tell he isn't a "really good dude", really good dudes don't act the way he does and belittle folks in public. So, sorry I'm not buying into that one. Frankly he knows acm, and maybe he helps some of you some of the time, but this thread is just another example of how much his attitude really sucks. We all carry opinions, I read yours, and this is mine. =)
And anyways... didn't you retire? You shouldn't be owning anyone in anything as far as this game is concerned =P Seriously though, hope to see you back up again sometime.
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Originally posted by streetstang
First off, Howi. Why do you keep biting on shanes freakin bait dude? You are doing exactly what you said he makes other people do. Shanes not all that bad once you get to know him. I couldnt stand the little punk when I first met him. Then I realized how much we had in common. We both just dont care. 8)
Honestly though, hes not so bad. Besides that, I own him in a 51 and i wont even mention the 38. Oops, i just did. :D
Seriously though, many days i would log on and find shane on Ch200 chattering away and I knew I'd be able to find a good fight. All you have to do is ask him where he's at and he'll meet ya. If you screw up, he'll make dam sure you know it but atleast your mistakes wont go over looked.
Big deal if he calls someone an anklehumper...? I He humps mine and I dont mind. Actually we hump eachothers but thats niether here nor there. When you get right down to it, shane is my biatch. errr I mean he's a real good dude and is willing to help anyone.
I vote shane.
errr wait. What was the question?
Honestly morph, really don't care to know him one bit. To say he doesn't care is also off the mark, he cares... he cares about publicly humiliating anyone he gets the better of. I do what I do because I like to hear him yammer about how good he is when it really makes no overall difference one way or another. I think he is a sad and pathetic soul who always has an excuse when he dies, so I throw some comments back over the wall straight to him. Far as I can tell he isn't a "really good dude", really good dudes don't act the way he does and belittle folks in public. So, sorry I'm not buying into that one. Frankly he knows acm, and maybe he helps some of you some of the time, but this thread is just another example of how much his attitude really sucks. We all carry opinions, I read yours, and this is mine. =)
And anyways... didn't you retire? You shouldn't be owning anyone in anything as far as this game is concerned =P Seriously though, hope to see you back up again sometime.
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sigh.. it's not about how good i am, it's about how bad most of you suck, simply through a lack of effort.
my irony meter is pegged out tho' as you say i'm only trying to get people to play my way and am all nasty about it :rolleyes: while you sit upon that high horse of yours emoting in a squeeky voice trying to get me to play *your* way (and trying, to be nasty in doing so with your imperious declarations) i.e., "thank you sir, may i have another? wtg! wtg! gk!!"
keep on humpin'
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Hmmm anything i could say to make this stop?
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Hmmm anything i could say to make this stop?
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Originally posted by FuBaR
Hmmm anything i could say to make this stop?
Short answer, no. This is "family meeting time".
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Originally posted by Shane
sigh.. it's not about how good i am, it's about how bad most of you suck, simply through a lack of effort.
my irony meter is pegged out tho' as you say i'm only trying to get people to play my way and am all nasty about it :rolleyes: while you sit upon that high horse of yours emoting in a squeeky voice trying to get me to play *your* way (and trying, to be nasty in doing so with your imperious declarations) i.e., "thank you sir, may i have another? wtg! wtg! gk!!"
keep on humpin'
LOL who's the one not reading?? You can fly whatever way you want. Show me a time I tried to tell you how to fly. You say you aren't nasty eh... you deny that one? "its not about how good I am, it's about how bad most of you suck..." There ya go, thats exactly it. I'm on no high horse, just sick and tired of hearing you preach from yours.
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Originally posted by Shane
this was, what? 2 years ago? 18 months?
you need to stop living in the past. :aok
yeah at least 2 years ago.....
well shane... everytime when i close my eyes, i see Mbirdcz on my 3 o`clock turning to HO some P51 with his last message
" Sh|+ i have no ammo... but i have 1 rocket so i will try it" ...... "omg i saw a hit sprite "
"ahhhhh it was Shane... ohhh he must feel horrible now"
then we laugh untill morning
Actualy i had a greate fun to fight agains you , it were realy cool, specialy when we were tempie vs. peee :)
however im still flying sometime, for rooks...... so i hope to see you upthere (going down in flames :D )
orel
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Originally posted by Shane
sigh.. it's not about how good i am, it's about how bad most of you suck, simply through a lack of effort.
my irony meter is pegged out tho' as you say i'm only trying to get people to play my way and am all nasty about it :rolleyes: while you sit upon that high horse of yours emoting in a squeeky voice trying to get me to play *your* way (and trying, to be nasty in doing so with your imperious declarations) i.e., "thank you sir, may i have another? wtg! wtg! gk!!"
keep on humpin'
have to admit, that fighting with shane is sometime better that sex...... specialy when you nail him at the end :D
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Howi the kids not worth the effort, 98% of the community doesn't buy into the dribble he states. most just argue back with him to hear him get all excited. (No idea why they want to hear his crap but some do) If I want to deal with inmature kids I would be a 5th grade teacher. Anyway Howi, most see him as he is and just dismiss him. Dude has issues that your not qualified to help him with. :D
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Originally posted by Urchin
Lol, I ranked #1 in attack this month.
Rank doesn't mean a damn thing as far as skill goes..
Hell, probably all the #2 guy has to do to get #1 in attack is go milkrun a couple factories.
There are plenty of "rank tutorials" on the BBS. It is just about as simple as making out a checklist and checking off all the boxes.
yup rank doesnt mean nothing to famous tards, who are around for few years....
But when some "noname" with rank 20 get shot down by someone with rank 1523, its fun to see his reaction, specialy, when you kill him 3x times and burn him several times with his friends...
then you must only accept congratulation to nice hack :D
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Originally posted by Howitzer
So here we are again... bigmouth is ragging on someone who can't fly as good as he does. Maybe coach was having a bad night, maybe he doesn't fly hurri's alot, maybe if you shoot them down you should just relish the fact you won and leave it at that. But since Shane likes to poke fun at people in a public forum and post films for everyone to see, I thought I'd post one I have of him. This is 616Fubar in a p40 killing both shane and hammy in their la7s. Funny, I don't see any horde in this one, seems like a pretty fair fight, and at the end.... gee who misses the easy 6 shot while the teeny weeny p40 is busy with another la7? Hmmmmm I wonder. If you fly like you say others should, you should've let fubar get back on his feet before re-engaging, but you tried to cherry him, then lost, in your own ride to a (this can be disputed) lesser plane. Enjoy, and happy new year =)
Film (http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/816_1104375221_deathofshane.ahf)
HAHAHA
WTFG Fubar, you're the man no doubt!
that was great flying.
one question: How the heck do you fly using those views??? i couldnt even track the enemy whilst watching your film let alone fly and do it...
you use Pan view alot yeah?
great flying again.
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lol, no kidding. my aim sucks.
Never when you shoot at me.
Good thread, hats off to Widewing for apologizing. I will download the film and view it. Should only take an hour or so with my blazing dial up. :)
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Maybe coach was having a bad night ...
Coach NEVER has a bad night ... well ... ummm ... maybe just one night ... at the con ... ;)
WHO'S YER BUDDY !!!
by the way ... It was Chief that ran into hard luck ... not Coach.
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DOH! I knew it started with a "C". I guess there were other "C" words I could have called him that would have been worse =P
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so gheyyyyyyyyyy
Yes a large percent of ftrs in MA are suk.....not horrible..but just arent the a very good fite 1 vs 1
I enjoy the feeling of being confident peeling those scalps
I didnt wacth the film..but to me..if a f4u can outturn the churricane O Death...that pilot is a real suk and needs much practice..
and morpheus needs to stfu
Merry New Year Pukes
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Originally posted by GreenCloud
I didnt wacth the film..but to me..if a f4u can outturn the churricane O Death...that pilot is a real suk and needs much practice..
humble : Those of you who are "plane dependent" will always worry about what the other guy is in...the rest of us just worry about WHO the other guy is.
Trust the old timers this says it all!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's a fact.
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Originally posted by GreenCloud
Yes a large percent of ftrs in MA are suk.....not horrible..but just arent the a very good fite 1 vs 1
I enjoy the feeling of being confident peeling those scalps
I didnt wacth the film..but to me..if a f4u can outturn the churricane O Death...that pilot is a real suk and needs much practice..
well maybe if you lived on the road in an 18 wheeler working your arse off hauling the nations goods from 1 coast to the other, and the only time you get to fly is when you find a place to plug in your laptop at a table in the truckstop to maybe get an hr or 2 of flying in when you are on your down time, then maybe you might have a better comprehension of the situation, then again looking back on the way you express yourself I doubt it!
love how people rag on others especially those that spend countless 24/7 hrs a day of the week in the game, then trying to compare themselves to those that fly on a limited basis.............
can't wait til I turn 60+ yrs old and have all the young whippersnappers talking the smack toward me..........I really will get a kick out of it :D
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I doubt that anyone except shane remembers what the post is about, its not about anything that most of you are saying.
Shane good f4u flying ( no this is not ankle humping) :cool:
one more thing. I am not one to speak of growing up but alot of you guys need to GROW UP:p