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Title: computers...I remember the 80's
Post by: NUKE on December 28, 2004, 10:10:47 PM
I remember buying the top of the line AMD computer......was what, 33 mhz with maybe a 20 meg hard drive?

The best game at that time IMHO was Ultima Underworld......that game still looks advanced to me.

I remember Falcon and head to head combat, playing against my brother via direct connect cable. What a blast that was.

It's amazing to me that today I am holding in my hand a compact flash that is about the size of 2 postage stamps and has a 1 gig capacity.
Title: computers...I remember the 80's
Post by: Lizking on December 28, 2004, 10:18:28 PM
I'm thinking you are remembering the 90s.
Title: computers...I remember the 80's
Post by: spitfiremkv on December 28, 2004, 10:28:40 PM
33mhz top of the line, that must've been a 386. didn't those appear in the late 80s?
Title: computers...I remember the 80's
Post by: NUKE on December 28, 2004, 10:31:54 PM
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Originally posted by spitfiremkv
33mhz top of the line, that must've been a 386. didn't those appear in the late 80s?


yes.

Ultima Underworld was 1991 though.
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Post by: vorticon on December 28, 2004, 10:40:40 PM
heh
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Post by: Chairboy on December 28, 2004, 10:44:33 PM
AMD made a real flash with their 386 DX40, that's probably what you got.
Title: computers...I remember the 80's
Post by: NUKE on December 28, 2004, 10:47:37 PM
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Originally posted by Chairboy
AMD made a real flash with their 386 DX40, that's probably what you got.


that's exactly what I had!  I forget the HD and memory size.
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Post by: Widgeo on December 28, 2004, 11:11:53 PM
VIC-20 here! :)
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Post by: LePaul on December 28, 2004, 11:20:06 PM
Ive still got all my old PCs up in the attic.  286, 386 SX 25, 486 SX 25, yada yada.

Sold the TRS-80 because someone offered me an obscene amount of cash for it.  Model III.  It was mint.

Memory lane...

Remembering how BNC networks were supposedly better than twisted pair...til you had a terminator go on the fritz and bring the whole thing down.

The blazing speed of 2400 baud, and thinking you were rocking the world with your new, 2 foot long 14,400 internal modem

Anyone need a 5.25" floppy drive?

Remember the joys oh eeking out more free memory tweaking config.sys and autoexec.bat ?

Upgrading from 16 colors to VGA!

When "going online" was logging on to any of the thousands of Bulletin Board Systems across the world

Fun times....remember your first 3D accelerated video card?
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Post by: NUKE on December 28, 2004, 11:25:00 PM
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Originally posted by LePaul
14,400 internal modem

Anyone need a 5.25" floppy drive?

 


Here's one for you. You remember the Osborne Executive? Look it up. It had one (well, dad bought it for us kids) 5.25 floppy only, "basic" language and about a 4 " monochrome screen.

I still have it...it's from 1982 or so. The world first "portable" computer......lol.
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Post by: MrBill on December 28, 2004, 11:44:11 PM
Man That brings back memories.
The good ol' Osborne portable
1800 odd 1981 dollars for a 25lb lug around with a 300 baud modem, 64K ram and a sizzling 4mhz Z80, to start my first consulting jobs ... the wife wanted a new car.
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Post by: LePaul on December 28, 2004, 11:48:10 PM
Remember that "bible"...Computer Shopper was it?  Big, huge magazine almost entirely all ads.

Which reminds me, whatever happened to Zeos?  I recall they always had huge systems and prominent ads in that magazine.
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Post by: Chairboy on December 28, 2004, 11:54:03 PM
Computer Shopper was teh great.
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Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on December 29, 2004, 12:58:50 AM
I remember saving to buy my first 2MB RAM! My first PC was a 1512, my HD was 20 meg. When I had my 386, I remember having to by a new HD to play Strike commander that was 80 megs.

Oh... and I remember my first sound card, a thundersomething ... made Falcon 3 play real music and sound, I was like a kid at the liquor store:D
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Post by: Chairboy on December 29, 2004, 01:03:34 AM
I first got connected with my Mac 512e.   A great computer, Mac Plus ROMs and a SCSI adapter for the 20 meg Jasmine drive, it was an incredible amount of storage.

Favorite two games:

Space Rogue.  The Mac version was better then the PC version, higher res, etc.  

Lunar Rescue.  This was a 'lunar lander' type game, except that it was a side scroller and you had to deliver cargo between moon bases, some of which were underground.  Flying a moon lander underground and having to lay down some fire on a gun on the roof, a real challenge.  I remember, if you flew too high, you'd get shot down by the sky defense system.  Very similar to Gravitar, iirc.
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Post by: Gyro/T69 on December 29, 2004, 01:06:14 AM
Try late 70s. Atari 400/800 baby. Both still work :) Remember getting a hard on buying my first floppy drive for them. No more tape drive, I was in love.

Btw...Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year guys.
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Post by: spitfiremkv on December 29, 2004, 01:23:42 AM
ahh
remember upgrading from 2mB of RAM to 4 on my 386SX-16 so I could play Mortal Kombat. Kinda stuttered :P
First games on that machine: Pool, Golf Prince of Persia and Strip Poker :eek:
Then Civilization, Dune II....man the memories
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Post by: Replicant on December 29, 2004, 05:26:01 AM
My first computer was a Commodore 64 :)  (1983)

First PC was in 1997.  AMD 686 166mhz, 8mb RAM, 2mb graphics!  Think the hard drive was something like 2.3g.
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Post by: Eagler on December 29, 2004, 05:37:38 AM
286 12mhz 2mb ram 20mb hd monochrome monitor

1st upgrade was to 386 sx 20mhz 4 mb ram color VGA monitor so I could play SWOTL - thought I'd died and gone to heaven :)

FWIW

those old computers go for some dough on eBay
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Post by: Furball on December 29, 2004, 06:10:54 AM
Amiga 500+ :)

my first PC was 120mhz
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Post by: SASMOX on December 29, 2004, 06:42:48 AM
1. C64  (1986)
2. Amiga 500 (1988)
3. Pentium 120 (1995)
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Post by: WilldCrd on December 29, 2004, 07:45:31 AM
heh my dad still has his old apple II plus in the garage. He ask me the other day about selling it on Ebay and how much moolah he could get for it! LOL
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Post by: thrila on December 29, 2004, 08:05:44 AM
I still own a zx spectrum 48k with several hundred games.  The joy of waiting 45 mins for a game to load only for the tape to finish and find it had crashed.:D
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Post by: Gh0stFT on December 29, 2004, 08:23:11 AM
i collect old videoconsole & computers (up to the first 286 nothing newer) just for fun. I prefer to use an emulator if i like
to run some old software/games, though. Hardware only for showcase.
Anyone here with an old ATARI 400 or 800 (NTSC or PAL) who dont need them anymore? ;)
I also search the VCS2600 Rev. A (found only the Rev. B so far)
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Post by: Nilsen on December 29, 2004, 09:14:16 AM
Good old days of commodore 64 (i was uber cool and had the 128)... still a working classic
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Post by: Lye-El on December 29, 2004, 10:22:40 AM
Ohio Scientific with 12K ram. C-64, Amiga 500 with an outboard 40 Meg hard drive.
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Post by: dedalos on December 29, 2004, 10:39:16 AM
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Good old days of commodore 64 (i was uber cool and had the 128)... still a working classic


You proly the only one that will recognize this:  Amstrad 464
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Post by: indy007 on December 29, 2004, 10:48:36 AM
Hmm, had a Commodore 64 (with the tape player!), a Kaypro at some point, a packard bell 386.. i remember when lightning fried it, and they gave us a mobo with twice the ram. I almost wet myself. Wing Commander 2's speech pack blew me away, after a few hours of fiddling with emm386 to get it to load properly.
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Post by: VWE on December 29, 2004, 10:48:52 AM
486 DX50, Chuck Yeagers Advanced Combat Simulator, head to head dog fights 109 vs F-4 Phantom II. I've still got that game, though I transferd it off the 5.25 to 3.5 floppys. :aok
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Post by: Nilsen on December 29, 2004, 10:52:02 AM
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Originally posted by dedalos
You proly the only one that will recognize this:  Amstrad 464


yeah I do  :)  They were never very popular here in the mid eighties (i think) but I thin they were in germany if im not mistaken..
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Post by: Suave on December 29, 2004, 10:58:03 AM
My first computer was a Radio shack color computer II with a cassette drive. Which is bragable because it could display COLORS man!

I could write a program in basic that would display the likeness of a boob in fleshtone!!

My first computer in the 90s was a 486 with 8mb of ram. I remember upgrading it to a whopping 12mb of ram so that I could play mechwarrior.

My first flight sim was "Their finest hour" which I played on a 386 in my high school comp science class room, which the teacher would leave unlocked for us after hours. We'd get baked after school then come back and bomb england untill it got dark... good times.
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Post by: Charon on December 29, 2004, 11:03:37 AM
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AMD made a real flash with their 386 DX40, that's probably what you got.


My first major upgrade (of dozens) to the only computer system I ever bought new/complete, a PC Brand 286/12 in 1988. I had bummed around on a roomates Apple 2 and a friend's PC for some years previously. The final piece of that old machine, the long unused 5 1/4 floppy, was dropped in the late 1990s.  

In fact, I came across the invoice for that first big upgrade a month or so ago:

1992 prices

4 1meg SIMMs: $156.00 ($39 ea.)

MAHA 386/486 Syphony MB (w/6 ISA slots!): $260.

AMD 386-40: $110

All purchased from vendors in Computer Shopper. Too bad it was killed (functionally) by the Internet.

Charon
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Post by: dedalos on December 29, 2004, 11:12:49 AM
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Originally posted by Nilsen
yeah I do  :)  They were never very popular here in the mid eighties (i think) but I thin they were in germany if im not mistaken..


Not sure about Germany but if you were in Greece, you either had a Spectrum or an Amstrad.  Then they came up with the Disc drives and the 128 RAM fro the Amstrads and the spectrum/synclears died off.  Some comodore 64s but the Amiga ended up being the most popular at the end.
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Post by: Furious on December 29, 2004, 11:15:04 AM
'87-'88

Amiga 2000 with a 14" monitor.  4,096 glorius colors.  $3,500.
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Post by: rshubert on December 29, 2004, 11:55:30 AM
1973.  PLATO (programming language for automated teaching organizations).

PLATO was a terminal-connected network over DARPANET that allowed us (at Purdue in Ft. Wayne, In.) to access the CDC Cyber 6000 at Champaign (University of Illinois).  We had games.

Remember that lunar lander game?  We had it.

Chess?  We had it.

Artillery battle?  We had it.

Star Trek?  We had it. (AFAIK, the first multiplayer game over the internet)

All keyboard commands, of course.  The screen was an orange-on-black plasma panel.  I spent many a late night looking at that screen, figuring out what the Klingons were going to do...
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Post by: Charon on December 29, 2004, 12:34:11 PM
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1973. PLATO (programming language for automated teaching organizations).

PLATO was a terminal-connected network over DARPANET that allowed us (at Purdue in Ft. Wayne, In.) to access the CDC Cyber 6000 at Champaign (University of Illinois). We had games.


My stepfather who was getting his psych degree smuggled me into a university hospital (where he had a friend working security) to play on it a a number of times in the late 1970s. Played Airfight some but the frame rate (1-2 seconds per frame) was a bit too rough. My first online kill was a Roumlan Battle Cruiser I hit with three photon torpedoes in the Star Trek game Empire (not to be confused with Interstel's Empire). Still remember the kill clearly and keys commands, sort of. There was another Star Trek based single player game that was fun too.

Anybody ever own a Magnavox  Odyssey 1 :)

Charon
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Post by: dedalos on December 29, 2004, 01:08:20 PM
Ha, 300BC Greek dual 0.0001Mz CPUs 100b flash RAM, MRBL computer
http://www.ee.ryerson.ca:8080/~elf/abacus/history.html (http://www.ee.ryerson.ca:8080/~elf/abacus/history.html)

:D :D :D :D
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Post by: Ouaibe on December 29, 2004, 01:18:23 PM
Amstrad 6128 (+ 464 tape to buy cheap games)
Amiga 500
Amiga 1200 + 8Mo of RAM + 250Mo HDD
386 SX 33
486 SX 33 + DX 66 upgrade
Pentium 60
Cyrix P166+
Celeron 400
Athlon 800
P4 3Ghz...

Missed the old days on my amiga

PS : and the best of all console : 3D0 REAL Panasonic FZ10 !!! Still have it and still have a blast with it.
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Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on December 29, 2004, 01:28:16 PM
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Originally posted by Suave
My first computer was a Radio shack color computer II with a cassette drive. Which is bragable because it could display COLORS man!

I could write a program in basic that would display the likeness of a boob in fleshtone!!

My first computer in the 90s was a 486 with 8mb of ram. I remember upgrading it to a whopping 12mb of ram so that I could play mechwarrior.

My first flight sim was "Their finest hour" which I played on a 386 in my high school comp science class room, which the teacher would leave unlocked for us after hours. We'd get baked after school then come back and bomb england untill it got dark... good times.


Whats braggable about displaying color?  My Commodore Vic20 did that.  It was the big competition back then, color computer vs the Commodore.  Radio Shack lost.  :)  

I had the Vic20 with tape drive and the dot matrix printer, upgraded to the 64 and got a 5.25" floppy for it.  At school we used the Apple IIe and Apple II+.  I can still remember learning the "Peek" and "Poke" codes for programming the Apple II's.  Our first PC was a Laser XT clone of an IBM XT model.  It had a 5.25" floppy, a 20MB RLL hard drive, and a top of the line EGA video monitor.  It also had a 2400 Baud modem, gave me my first introduction to the world of Compuserve and GEnie in 1987/1988.  And an introduction to my dad's belt after he found out I was making long distance calls with the computer, and using his credit card to join online services lol.  But more importantly it introduced me to MSFS.
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Post by: Gunslinger on December 29, 2004, 04:27:03 PM
the first my parents had was an Apple IIc.  After that they upgraded to an AppleIIgs.  I remember playing Pirates and dam busters on it.

MY first computer was a gateway Pentium 166 W/ MMX
I upgraded that to a celeron 333 (still have the mobo and it works great with Windows95/98)
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Post by: brendo on December 29, 2004, 06:26:54 PM
Furball, as scary as this sounds, the A500 was only SEVEN megahurts.
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Post by: Mini D on December 29, 2004, 07:13:53 PM
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Originally posted by NUKE
Here's one for you. You remember the Osborne Executive? Look it up. It had one (well, dad bought it for us kids) 5.25 floppy only, "basic" language and about a 4 " monochrome screen.

I still have it...it's from 1982 or so. The world first "portable" computer......lol.
My mother-in-law gave me her old KPRO which was basically the same thing.  I gave it to a friend who modified it for his kid's science project.  I'll post pictures and stats on it when I get the chance.  We're still trying to find a plug-in keyboard solution, but wireless is working fine for it now.

All I really remember is my first 20 meg HD cost $500.  At that $/meg cost, a 200Gig HD would cost 5 million.

Old computer threads are cool, but I couldn't afford a computer until I was in the military.  I bought a Tandy 1000SL.  I learned on something that we built in HS, but can't remember what... then we "upgraded" to Commodore Pets.  I even remember us getting one of the earliest versions of the "mac".
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Post by: Chairboy on December 29, 2004, 07:46:48 PM
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Originally posted by Mini D
I even remember us getting one of the earliest versions of the "mac".


Was it this?
(http://fp3.antelecom.net/gcifu/applemuseum/images/lisa2.gif)
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Post by: Mini D on December 29, 2004, 07:52:42 PM
I don't remember what it looked like, to be honest.  That was a couple of years ago.
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Post by: gweibe on December 29, 2004, 07:54:35 PM
After "playing around" with mainframes in the mid-sixties...

Heathkit H-8, 8080, 8K RAM.  Literally built by hand (circuit boards, components, and soldering iron).
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Post by: Karnak on December 29, 2004, 08:05:29 PM
1987: Atari 520STfm w/512k RAM was my first computer.
1990: Atari 1040STe w/1mb RAM (later upgraded to 2mb at a cost of $220.00 and a 120mb hard drive).
1992: Intel 486/66 DX2 w/8mb and a 540mb SCSI 2 hard drive.
1995: Intel Pentium 100 w/16mb of RAM and the same 540 SCSI 2 hard drive
1997: AMD K-6 233 w/32mb RAM with a 3DFX VooDoo 2
1998: AMD K-6-II 350 and AMD K-6-III 450 w/128mb RAM with two VooDoo 2s in SLI mode.
1999: AMD Athlon 700 w/128mb RAM with w GeForce 2
2001: AMD AthlonXP 1800+ w/512mb RAM, two drive SCSI-3 RAID 0 and a GeForce4 4600
2004: AMD AthlonXP 3200+ w/1gb RAM, five drive SCSI Ultra 160 in RAID 5 with 128mb of cache on the card and an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro.
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Post by: DREDIOCK on December 29, 2004, 08:20:17 PM
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Originally posted by Furious
'87-'88

Amiga 2000 with a 14" monitor.  4,096 glorius colors.  $3,500.


And if you were like me.
You used to giggle at all the IBM clone users when they ooed and ahhhed over their  new video cards and sound cards knwoing yours came stock with 4,096 colors and real sound when all theirs could do was go beeep beep.

Cracked me up when windows came out and the first time I saw it on my bosses computer.
I said to him "I dont see what the big deal is. I've been doing this for years"
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Post by: Ripsnort on December 29, 2004, 08:44:51 PM
The very first computer system that I actually used in a job (1983):

(http://www.computerhistory.org/exhibits/internet_history/full_size_images/apollo.jpg)
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Post by: NUKE on December 29, 2004, 08:50:28 PM
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
And if you were like me.
You used to giggle at all the IBM clone users when they ooed and ahhhed over their  new video cards and sound cards knwoing yours came stock with 4,096 colors and real sound when all theirs could do was go beeep beep.

Cracked me up when windows came out and the first time I saw it on my bosses computer.
I said to him "I dont see what the big deal is. I've been doing this for years"


LOL, you're right. I remember a friend bought an Amiga and it had a raytracing program, full stereo sound, audio recording and editing, text to voice synthesis ( we had fun with that, trying to make it say naughty words), and the thing kicked arse over anything at that time. That bad part was that that glory period didn't last too long due to lack of software.

That Amiga really was the cat's arse back then though.
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Post by: Storm7 on December 29, 2004, 11:36:54 PM
Radio Shack TRS-80 with audio tape drive...mmmmmm. That was sooo cool. If you wanted color, you put a green plate in front of the monitor.
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Post by: DREDIOCK on December 30, 2004, 01:29:11 AM
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Originally posted by NUKE
LOL, you're right. I remember a friend bought an Amiga and it had a raytracing program, full stereo sound, audio recording and editing, text to voice synthesis ( we had fun with that, trying to make it say naughty words), and the thing kicked arse over anything at that time. That bad part was that that glory period didn't last too long due to lack of software.

That Amiga really was the cat's arse back then though.


I dont think it was so much a lack of software as much as it was really poor advertising.
I never had any problems finding programs for it but what I did find is alot of people never heard of it before.

Amy was capable of doing alot of things.
with an  IBM bridgeboard  it could run IBM stuff and with a Mac ROM and drive if could run Mac stuff.
Given enough memory it could run all 3 at the same time.
Had they  taken that and ran with it advertisement wise they probably would have done much better.

Remember this was during the time when a big problem was one office running IBMs and the other running macs and which was going to win out in the workplace

While I'd never done it I understand it was real good at video editing
And I remember reading an article that the Irealie airforce used them for their flight simulators

In any event it was a great machine  in its time.
I still have my 2000 and all the software.
One of these days Im gonna haveta hook her up again